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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. sealclubber1016

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    Why, what has he done the last 2 seasons to suggest he won't be a solid starter?
     
  2. Snake Diggit

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    It’s not that. I just think they’ll try the other guys first and they’ll keep Peacock in the pen. Losing McHugh to the rotation leaves Peacock as the only proven reliable multi inning reliever.
     
  3. Stros4me

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    Pressly, Devo, Harris, Valdez
     
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  4. Snake Diggit

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    First 3 are good RP but all averaged less than an inning per appearance so they’re not consistent multi inning options. Valdez is a rookie.
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    Back to fantasy land:
    Sign Grandal
    Trade Bukauskas, White, Kemp, Stassi, and Toro for Greinke and $21M
    Sign Justin Wilson

    CF Springer
    DH Brantley
    3B Bregman
    2B Altuve
    C Grandal
    SS Correa
    LF Reddick
    1B Gurriel
    RF Tucker
    Bench: Diaz, Chirinos, Marisnick
    Rotation: Verlander, Cole, Greinke, McHugh, Whitley
    Bullpen: Peacock, Devenski, Wilson, Harris, Smith, Rondon, Pressly, Osuna

    Optioned: Stubbs, Reed, Davis, Fisher, Straw, James, Armenteros, F Valdez, C Perez, Rodgers, Martes, Guduan, Deetz, Abreu, McCullers

    I just realized...they can option McCullers instead of 60 Day DL him and get another year of control, right?!?!? Huge boon for Houston if so.
     
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  6. Redfish81

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    Interesting... Peacock has more success as a starter in the majors than ALL of the names you mentioned combined.

    If we trade for or sign another starter I would actually prefer Peacock in the rotation and McHugh in the pen. Peacock seems to be a rhythm guy. Sometimes it takes him a minute to get it going. You have more rope as a starter, and as a reliever not coming out of the gate firing can be a problem. When he does get it going though he can roll for 6 innings.
     
  7. kaleidosky

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    does anyone ever pull that on an All Star caliber player? That kinda thing would all but guarantee he waits for free agency and bolts
     
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  8. Htown Stros

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    Would you actually consider paying him anyway given how often he is injured and how inconsistent he has been?

    I'm not arguing for doing it as it probably wouldn't be a good look for our chances at other players down the road.
     
  9. Niaperzly

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    No, you can't pull it on any player on the ML roster. I can't believe he actually thinks it's possible. There's a reason Jurickson Profar (former #1 prospect in baseball) hit arbitration with 341 PAs at the ML level.
     
  10. Redfish81

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    An injured player cannot be removed from the 25-man roster by being sent to the minors - his team must place him on the DL until he is healthy or the season ends. While they are on the disabled list, players may be sent, with their permission, on a rehabilitation assignment in the minor leagues. The length of these assignments is limited to a week or so, and players continue to be paid a Major League salary while they are on a rehabilitation assignment.
     
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    Seems like the most realistic way to improve the club is to move Reddick in a salary filler type trade for a SP. Greinke is the obvious one to watch. If they complete a Greinke trade and sign Cruz I think the team will be ready to go with almost zero holes.

    Springer
    Bregman
    Altuve
    Cruz
    Brantley
    Correa
    Tucker
    Gurriel
    Chirinos

    Verlander
    Cole
    Greinke
    McHugh
    James/Peacock/Valdez

    Stacked bullpen, Whitley to provide help later in the season. Would be great.
     
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  12. Stros4me

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    I like it. Just a few tweaks, but the roster would be the same for me:

    Springer
    Brantley
    Bregman
    Altuve
    Cruz
    Correa
    Tucker
    Gurriel
    Chirinos

    BN Kemp or Jake, Diaz, Stassi

    Not sure what to do about White.

    Verlander
    Cole
    Greinke
    McHugh
    James/Valdez/Whitley
     
  13. Madmanmetz

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    LOL spoiled huh, they scored 797 runs. I guess you never suffered the dome days! Hell the 2005 NL champs team scored 693 that was tough to watch too.

    for reference league average last season was 721.
     
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  14. Madmanmetz

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    Everyone likes to for get Peacock.
     
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    He forgot how to throw his slider for much of last season, for whatever reason.

    If he can fix that....
     
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  16. sealclubber1016

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    I'm fine rolling with this offense unless Realmuto becomes more reasonable.

    Don't want Nelson Cruz now. Would rather give White a chance to establish himself and there's no place for both. We can always add a bat in season if it becomes a real issue.
     
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  17. sealclubber1016

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    And yet his numbers were all pretty good, K rate went up actually, BB went down.

    People just remember that he wasn't single inning dominant. Better starter than reliever.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    His slider was inconsistent frisbee-style **** more often that is ideal.
     
  19. Stros4me

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    If we can add a 38 HR high contact bat for relatively cheap, do it.

    We would obviously have to make some tough decisions about whom to trade or demote, but I’m all for it.

    Trade Kemp, use White off the bench, demote Jake.
     
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  20. No Worries

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    I expect some more trades. The Astros carried 12 position player most of 2018 (and 2017). The current roster with 13 position players looks like

    C Robinson Chirinos
    1 Yuli Gurriel
    2 Jose Altuve
    SS Carlos Correa
    3 Alex Breman
    LF Kyle Tucker
    CF George Spring
    RF Josh Reddick
    DH Brantley

    IF/OF Aledmys Diaz
    IF White
    OF Jake Marisnick or Tony Kemp
    C Max Stassi

    To get 12 position players, both Marisnick and Kemp got to go.

    Looking at WRC+ for 2018 and Steamer 2019 for the OFs

    2018/2019
    124/119 Brantley
    119/127 Springer
    110/98 Kemp
    102/105 Aledmys Diaz
    99/109 Reddick
    85/79 Marisnick
    28/108 Tucker

    Brantley may get most of his starts at DH.

    Diaz viz-a-viz Marwin is probably more of an emergency LF.

    Kemp is really a 2B, but he has great value as a lead off hitter on a non-contending team or the 9th spot on a contender. I suspect that Hinch wants to keep Kemp and use him like he did last year (LF batting 9th).

    Tucker needs to be playing everyday, either in Houston or Round Rock. I suspect that the Astros will want Tucker to be their future RF, eventually replacing Reddick. If the Astros trade Reddick this offseason, the future is now and the starting OF would be Kemp-Springer-Tucker.

    Marisnick does not hit well enough to pinch hit but is a super solid late inning defensive replacement and pinch runner. Marisnick is also the only other OF besides Springer, who can play a respectful CF. All of this is likely not enough to earn a roster spot out of spring training. If Springer does get hurt, the Astros do have Miles Straw down on the farm to fill in.
     

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