1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Update: Minny Turns down Houston’s offer for 4. First rounders

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets13champs, Oct 28, 2018.

  1. BigShasta

    BigShasta Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2014
    Messages:
    5,212
    Likes Received:
    4,812
    Hoping Minny gets nothing for butler and ends up missing playoffs and he walking.
     
    Hui, D-rock, shvedsucks and 1 other person like this.
  2. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,279
    Likes Received:
    9,629
    Yup Knight and Nene have negative trade value and Chriss is a filler. Swap Gordon for Knight and that trade probably gets done today rather than waiting until 10-15 games in like their owner said he wants to do now.
     
  3. juanm34

    juanm34 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    6,723
    Likes Received:
    7,787
    Thibs to the Rockets confirmed!
     
    hakeem94 and sirjesse like this.
  4. Vivi

    Vivi Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2016
    Messages:
    18,561
    Likes Received:
    20,774
    I mean, what does even mean that "there was extension talks but nothing serious"? If there were talks they were obviously serious, at least from the Rockets side. You don't approach a player for an extension just to lose some time lol.

    The fact that Gordon also said: "I would much rather be here as long as I can. Everything will work out. I'll be here another two years. We'll see what happens. I'll see how the next two years go, but I would definitely like to be here the rest of my career."...makes me think he's not exactly thrilled to resign as today, especially if you consider it comes from a potential starter that is coming off the bench and has the injury history he has, seems at least strange he turned down an extension if he loves to be here.
     
  5. craguin

    craguin Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,899
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    Gordon wouldn't even be available to be traded right now had he been offered an extension and signed it.
     
  6. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,308
    Likes Received:
    113,137
    There is nothing to move on to or the Rockets already would have. It is annoying as a fan waiting for something to happen but for the Rockets organization it is part of the business.

    FWIW I believe Minnesota leaked it. The Rockets front office doesn’t leak to Woj and they don’t want their players names included in public trade discussions. The Wolves leaked it.

    Also I agree with Wolfson that the leaked offer doesn’t address what the Wolves hope to accomplish, which is to be competitive now. The reality is the Rockets would love to be out from Knight’s contract, keep their rotation in place AND add a top 15 player. The last two draft picks (of the 4) are wildcards and could be good but Thibs will be gone by then and most likely Taylor will be dead.

    So there are no guarantees that the Wolves suddenly agree to Chris, Nene, Gordon and 2-3 draft picks. It is a competitive offer but doesn’t guarantee Butler.
     
    D-rock, AroundTheWorld and DonKnock like this.
  7. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Messages:
    10,984
    Likes Received:
    13,588
    From thibodeaux’s perspective that sucks. But from the twolves perspective its amazing. Thats so many 1st round picks. Its almost malpractice for thinodeaux to turn us down.

    Im honestly happy thibodeaux is saving the rockets from themselves. We might suck for a really long time and be the new nets.

    Im going to be a rockets fan for the rest of my life so i wanna stay competitive. Im the type of fan thatd rather be competitive every year rather than win the chip 1 year and be dog crap for the next 5-10 years after.
     
  8. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,471
    Likes Received:
    7,652
    That's good. There is no way Jimmy and KAT are going to co exist in Minny. We stay in their radar once they get desperate enough to offload him and we can lower our offer if they come crawling back.
     
    Mazulis, hakeem94 and Little Bit like this.
  9. Vivi

    Vivi Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2016
    Messages:
    18,561
    Likes Received:
    20,774
    Yep, but that's another story ;)
     
  10. txn

    txn Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2013
    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    643
    Lol, it turns out this Minni trade is WIN-WIN for Rockets. Either we get a great 2 way player or we have a chance to get our-self a real defensive coordinator. I like that :D
     
    hakeem94 and juanm34 like this.
  11. ElPigto

    ElPigto Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2006
    Messages:
    14,790
    Likes Received:
    23,357
    Makes a lot of sense that the Rockets didn't leak this. Like @Nook said, rockets never leak stuff to Woj. I remember a few years ago, Woj was having a hard time knowing who the Rockets were picking in the draft. When Dwight signed here, it was Sam Amick that broke the story, not Woj. So historically, Rockets don't leak **** to Woj.
     
    Vivi, Hui, D-rock and 2 others like this.
  12. Snow Villiers

    Snow Villiers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    16,887
    Likes Received:
    16,129
    [​IMG]
     
  13. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Messages:
    10,984
    Likes Received:
    13,588
    Reported. Its time that the bbs is done for you once and for all @FTW Rockets FTW

    Only @J.R. wants to see you stick around because you financed yalls hooker and coke night after the astros won the fall classic.

    Truth will out.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  14. Sidarma

    Sidarma Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,945
    Likes Received:
    1,141
    It would be funny if butler follows the isaiash thomas as a celtics player route.
    Screwing himself and the min pups as a whole.

    Karma man its a biatch !!!
     
  15. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2002
    Messages:
    8,612
    Likes Received:
    22,016
    Obviously Glenn Taylor’s Wolf-son.
     
    hakeem94 and AroundTheWorld like this.
  16. Shark44

    Shark44 71er
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 1999
    Messages:
    4,173
    Likes Received:
    7,539
    I don't think this is over by any means. DM had to throw out this phenomenal amount of 1sts hoping to mesmerize Layton and Taylor into jumping on the deal, but then they see Knight as another drag on their salary cap and Chriss as a bust, so they say no. DM can counter with Gordon, Nene, and 19/21 1sts. That's a much more positive outcome for them and should be close to getting the deal done.
     
    Rudyc281, mikol13 and ROXTXIA like this.
  17. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,068
    Likes Received:
    11,768
    Yeah, an offer was leaked, mollifies Gordon until D-Day, deal gets modified with EGO in it.

    We do still need to deal with our height problem on the team. Just too darned short.
     
    Shark44 and Rudyc281 like this.
  18. Zoplicone

    Zoplicone Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Messages:
    4,903
    Likes Received:
    3,863
    I’m not so sure this offer is all that bad for Minnesota. You never know when you can have a bad year.

    Look at how we’re playing so far. The chances that our pick went from 26th-30th to 20th-25th increased dramatically.

    One Harden injury can put us in the lottery one year.

    On top of all that Minny have all their picks too. You can trade up, trade down, trade them as assets. They would be in a great position moving forward with a competent GM....sigh.

    Either way, I can understand why they would insist on EG, and totally understand why Morey would not do that.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  19. Zoplicone

    Zoplicone Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Messages:
    4,903
    Likes Received:
    3,863
    You wanna talk about irony. Minnesota are turning down 4 1st round picks because they don’t think our picks will be that great and they want a Josh Richardson type now.....Josh Richardson was drafted in the 2nd round.
     
    hakeem94 and HP3 like this.
  20. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,308
    Likes Received:
    113,137
    What makes you believe the Rockets would not include Gordon in a deal for Butler?
     
    D-rock likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now