We cant afford to lose him for nothing by allowing him to take the QO. Because he is our best trade asset. Obviously we can't afford to overpay him either because then he would no longer be am asset. Threaten to bench him or take a reasonable offer, or sign and trade him.
@finsraider Regarding "cap room" in the summer of 2019. The salary cap will be 108M Rockets salaries in 2019 Paul - 38.5M Harden - 37.8M Gordon - 14M Tucker - 8.3M Just using those numbers for those 4 players that gets you to = 98.6. The Rockets would have 10M in cap space. And this ASSUMES you somehow get Ryan of Anderson's 21M contract for nothing. NO CAP ROOM.
Who has more leverage? The Rockets who could replace Clint with an average center and still get to 55+ wins. Or Capela who has never signed a big contract yet risking his career turning into Nerlens Noel or Dmo. Cp3 is the same age as Lebron and he just signed with a team that won 20 some games.
Yeah, but if you're willing to max him next year (when a max would be even bigger btw), why not just pay him less than that now? It's just not worth it considering he'll most definitely bolt in that scenario. As for that offer i would be all over this kind of contract, if i'm the Rockets at least, i'd actually give him even a bit more if it's a 5 year deal and it would settle the situation, like 85/90M, that should still be a good contract to move as an asset going forward since the cap should go up again.
Or he could turn into Monroe who took his QO and then signed for 2+1 p.o 20 mil per. Noel is a knucklehead with major red flags he's a bad example for this. A good example is TT. He also blackmailed the Cavs who were contenders into paying him. If you want to use the replacement as some kind of threat then better sign now a "replacement" level center. The Bucks are doing this with Jabari now. They went and signed Ilyasova at the start of FA who plays PF, so he can't blackmail them at all. Not that he is any good anyway lol
yup. If your only playable C is Nene then good luck threatening to bench Capela. He will laugh in your face.
The fact that Nene was in his quote actually made me smile, nothing against Nene, i absolutely love him, but "run it back" with a guy who can't run anymore...i mean, lol.
Malakas - what’s Milwaukee going to do with Parker? Are they waiting for him to sign a lowball offer so they can match?
If Capela is betting on himself then he has to have a tremendous year next season. So that's a Win Win for the Rockets on the court. If he mopes and pouts and half ass on the court he's not getting max dollars. Better work on those ft's too...
yes or S+T him. This is what they have done: 1. Hardcapped themselves on purpose so the max they could offer him became 19 mil. Signed Ilyasova who plays his position. 2. Signed Brolo with the BAE so now the max they could offer him in November is 17 mil if they let Jennings, Zeller etc unguaranteed go. Now his agent has absolutely zero leverage. Jabari can't even take the QO with his injuries. I mean he could but then he would be benched for all season long, since the Bucks aren't any type of contenders.
Random rumor, the Kings are interested in Hood. LAS VEGAS - The Kings struck out in their first attempt to land a restricted free agent. Sacramento on Friday offered a four-year, $78 million offer sheet to guard Zach LaVine, but the Chicago Bulls quickly announced they would match the deal, then officially did so on Sunday. One restricted free agent who might make sense for the Kings is Rodney Hood, who finished last season with the Cleveland Cavaliers. League sources said the Kings have shown interest in Hood, but the talks have not progressed to the point where an offer sheet is imminent. https://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/kings-blog/article214545484.html
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-the-truth-about-qualifying-offers/ Only one player since 2002 has signed the qualifying offer and then returned to his team. That was Spencer Hawes, who signed a $4 million qualifying offer in 2011 only to re-sign with the Philadelphia 76ers the following summer for two more years at $13.1 million. It also is incredibly rare for a player to come out of having signed a qualifying offer with max money. Only Greg Monroe, who took the QO from Detroit back in 2014, has come out of it with a max-salary deal. In 2014-2015, Monroe played out a $5.5 million QO before getting three years and $51.4 million from Milwaukee the following offseason. Nobody else has ever done it. Only Ben Gordon (five years, $58 million) has come close. For him, the prospect of signing that qualifying offer in 2008 was essentially unprecedented. At the time, Chicago was believed to have offered him something in the neighborhood of six years and $59 million, which was a deal so insulting to Gordon that he reportedly considered skipping the QO altogether and playing a season in Russia. Instead of a six-year deal worth $59 million, Gordon earned $6.4 million on the qualifying offer and then another $58 million in the five years that followed. It turned out he was right about being worth more than Chicago wanted to pay him. ____________________________________________________________________ Couldn't find anything on qualifying offers signed in 2016. Nerlens Noel & Alex Len signed their qualifying offers in 2017. Nerlens just signed a veteran's minimum deal with OKC. Alex Len remains unsigned. 2018 Restricted Free Agents still unsigned: Yogi Ferrell --> Reportedly expected to play under ($2.9M) qualifying offer Marcus Smart --> Reportedly "likely" to take ($6M) qualifying offer Clint Capela($4.7M) Jabari Parker($4.3M) Rodney Hood($3.4M) Montrezl Harrell($1.8M) David Nwaba($1.7M) Bryn Forbes($1.7M) Pat McCaw($1.7M) https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/09/players-whove-signed-qualifying-offers-2.html Norris Cole reportedly signed a qualifying offer of $3,036,927 from the Pelicans on 9/16/15. He signed for one year, $247,991 with the Thunder on 3/1/2017 Matthew Dellavedova signed a qualifying offer of $1,147,276 from the Cavaliers on 7/25/15. He signed (sign & trade) a four-year, $38,430,000 deal with the Bucks on 7/7/16 Greg Monroe signed a qualifying offer of $5,479,935 from the Pistons on 9/3/14. He signed a three-year, $51,437,514 maximum-salary deal with the Bucks on 7/9/15. Kevin Seraphin signed a qualifying offer of $3,898,692 from the Wizards on 7/18/14. He signed for one year, $2.814MM with the Knicks on 8/6/15. Ivan Johnson signed a qualifying offer of $962,195 from the Hawks on 9/18/12. He signed a partially guaranteed two-year minimum-salary contract with the Mavericks on 7/29/14, but he didn’t make the opening night roster. Devin Ebanks signed a qualifying offer of $1,054,389 from the Lakers on 8/13/12. He signed a non-guaranteed training camp invitation from the Mavericks on 9/13/13, but he didn’t make the opening-night roster. Luke Harangody signed a qualifying offer of $1,054,389 from the Cavaliers on 7/3/12. Has not signed another NBA contract. Darius Morris signed a qualifying offer of $962,195 from the Lakers on 7/2/12. He signed a non-guaranteed training camp invitation from the Sixers on 9/13/13, but he didn’t make the opening-night roster. He later surfaced on a 10-day contract with the Clippers, signed 1/6/14. Nick Young signed a qualifying offer of $3,695,857 from the Wizards on 12/19/11. He was traded to the Clippers 3/15/12, and signed for one year, $5.6MM with the Sixers on 7/6/12. Marco Belinelli signed a qualifying offer of $3,377,604 from the Pelicans on 12/13/11. He signed for one year, $1.957MM with the Bulls on 7/24/12. Spencer Hawes signed a qualifying offer of $4,051,024 from the Sixers on 12/10/11. He re-signed with the Sixers for two years, $13.1MM on 7/12/12. Raymond Felton signed a qualifying offer of $5,501,196 from the Hornets on 9/23/09. Signed with the Knicks for two years, $14.56MM on 7/12/10. Ben Gordon signed a qualifying offer of $6,404,750 from the Bulls on 10/1/08. Signed with the Pistons for five years, $58MM on 7/8/09. Robert Swift signed a qualifying offer of $3,579,131 from the Thunder on 9/11/08. Has not signed another NBA contract. Mickael Pietrus signed a qualifying offer of $3,470,771 from the Warriors on 10/1/07. Signed with the Magic for four years, $21.2MM on 7/10/08. Melvin Ely signed a qualifying offer of $3,303,813 from the Hornets on 10/2/06. He was traded to the Spurs on 2/13/07, and agreed to sign for two years, $1,893,739 (minimum salary) with the Pelicans on 9/13/07. Vladimir Radmanovic signed a qualifying offer of $3,166,155 from the Thunder on 9/19/05. He was traded to the Clippers on 2/14/06, and agreed to sign for five years, $30.247MM with the Lakers on 7/12/06. Stromile Swift signed a qualifying offer of $5,993,105 from the Grizzlies on 9/30/04. Signed with the Rockets for four years, $22.4MM on 8/2/05. Michael Olowokandi signed a qualifying offer of $6,061,214 from the Clippers on 9/23/02. Signed with the Timberwolves for three years, $16,226,100 on 7/17/03. Rasho Nesterovic signed a qualifying offer of $2,436,813 from the Timberwolves on 8/25/02. Signed with the Spurs for six years, $42MM on 7/16/03.
Given the respective sizes of the Taxpayer MLE and the veteran's minimum for Melo and Luc (let alone Luc's Non-Bird max), I highly doubt the Rockets would split the Taxpayer MLE between the two. More likely, the Rockets are reserving their Taxpayer MLE for Melo (perhaps with a sliver reserved to sign De'Anthony Melton to a three-year deal) in order to facilitate his buyout with OKC in order to get him in the first place. Not only would that possibly expedite Melo's arrival, it would also put Melo's Non-Bird max for 2019-20 within a range where he'd at least consider re-signing in Houston in 2019. Meanwhile, I'm guessing Luc wants that Taxpayer MLE from Houston, rather than what he has been offered (either the veteran's minimum of $2.4M or his Non-Bird max of $2.9M). Assuming they can get both of them, the Rockets have more to gain in 2019-20 by using the MLE on Melo instead of Luc, since Houston would have Early Bird rights to Luc in 2019 and could sign him then to a starting salary as high as $9M!
Oh ok, thanks, that's why i thought there was something not good about bird rights too in that scenario. So, you'll be forced to trade him where he wants, and only teams with enough cap space to resign him would've interest in a trade...welp.
Right, while on a QO contract, upon trade he becomes a rental with no Bird rights; otherwise, more players would take the QO, I suppose. Or vice versa, more incumbent teams wouldn't care if he takes the QO, so would negotiate RFA in a position of more power, if they could still trade his Bird Rights, later.
