Cancel Lebron..The Rockets need to focus on Paul George

The only way we would be able to get PG is LeBron staying in East with the Cavs.

 

Lebron’s defense is only terrible this year cuz he had to carry Cleveland’s offense. In Houston he would not be asked to create 90% of teams offense. Him, Harden, CP3 would share the load and they would all play significantly better on the defense end.

Did you just say KD is better than Lebron? KD is a better scorer than Lebron but Lebron does everything else better.

If we get Lebron, he should run the offense and Harden can catch and shoot better than Lebron or a Paul George.

 

KD is the fourth all-star on a stacked GSW squad. Put him on Cleveland this year (and LBJ on GSW) and the Cavs struggle to make it out of the first round, while the GSW sweep everyone! GTFOH with that KD nut licking bro

 

Didn’t he hit like 3 game winners in this playoffs alone? Where does this mail it in last two minutes come from. More like fatigue kicked in after scoring 51 pts and ref screws you over. The only stat chaser in the league that can leave a team and they go from first to last.

You bring up the OKC series like it was even close. Thunder won one game. KD scores but doesn’t make anyone around him better. You act like OKC didn’t also have 3 all stars plus Ibaka. Shoot they had 3 MVPs even though they were young. Wade was old. Bosh has always been overrated. Didn’t he score 0 pts in a finals game once.

 

KD quit in OKC and never won a thing until he got with Steph, Klay and Draymond.

 

My second favorite offseason scenario, behind the rockets getting a legit 3rd star, is if the clippers get Leonard, George stays in OKC, and Lebron stays east. Leaving the lakers with nothing.

Best possible situation is the first two with us landing Lebron.

 

Kobe quit on his team, and he couldn't even get to the biggest stage.
Jordan quit on his team, and he didn't make the biggest stage.

What do you expect a guy to do? He played arguably the best game of his career and lost the greatest team of all time. Your delusional if you think Cleveland realistically had a shot at winning 1 game. No player ever would have been able to replicate that performance four times. Some times its about matchups, and his Cleveland teams have had no shot. The fact that he beat this Warriors team once was already an accomplishment, but he will regret it the rest of his career because it enabled them to get KD. Best players in the finals in order.

Lebron
KD
Steph
Draymond
Klay
Iggy
Jordan Bell
Javale Mcgee

Everyone else tied for suck.


The one time Lebron choked in the finals was against Dallas. Only time he has lost as the favorite.

 

I'd slot Love ahead of Iggy but yea agree with the rest of the list lol.

 

No one else in the GOAT conversation was ever asked to do as much as he did. You should know your moniker is Hakeemthagreat. The only reason Hakeem isn't in the conversation is because his supporting cast for most of his career was like Lebron's and he did not win enough titles. In fact most people don't even consider Hakeem the top center which is crazy.

Lebron finally just took matters into his own hands to have a shot.

 

You group them all together like he played with all four at the same time.

Bosh and Love are both overrated. Putting up meaningless stats on losing teams. Wade had 2 good seasons with Lebron and then was on the downside of his career. Kyrie is always injured. They might have had one more ring if he wasn’t hurt soo much in the playoffs.

You completely missed my point. If he stuck it out in Cleveland he may have won 1 or 2 titles just like Hakeem and no one would consider him as a GOAT. So he took matters into his own hands and created a team to win. I don’t find fault in what he did at all. Small market teams like Cleveland are at such a disadvantage in the NBA. All other greats played with great players to help them win multiple rings.

Jordan had
Pippen
Rodman
Kukoc
Multiple role players(Horace Grant, Ron Harper)

Kobe had
Shaq
Gasol
If you count 37 year old ray Allen. Kobe played with Karl Malone and Gary Payton.
Multiple Role players (Horry, Fisher, Fox)

Magic and bird played with basically a dream team.

Just look at OKC, they shoulda had a dynasty and now all they have left is Westbrook.

 

Unsubstantiated assertion doesn’t contribute to this forum in a meaningful way.

You just tossed out an interesting scenario. Why is that true?

 

You totally miss the point. I never said Lebron had no talent around him. I am saying he had to leave Cleveland to create his own teams because before he left he had no talent around him. He's definately played with talent but also no other super star has had to play these warriors who are the greatest team of all time, so he would need at least 2 stars to compete.

You throw around the term super star rather loosely. Love and Bosh All Stars fine, but Superstars? No way. Bosh and Love couldn't even lead their respective teams to the playoffs consistently by themselves. I would hardly qualify them as super stars. They are basically Devin Booker. Just cus you score a bunch of points on really bad teams doesn't mean anything. I mean by your definition Jeremy Lin is a superstar cuz when he played by himself on the Knicks he was unstoppable.


I can't believe you discount Pau Gasol. He's is far away better than Love or Bosh. At least he got Memphis to the fourth seed by himself. One of the most efficient offensive players and solid defensive players ever. Look at what he did for the Spanish national team. His Memphis team finished higher than Kobe's Lakers teams.


I'll just leave you with this.

If Kyrie is soo good how come when he left Cleveland this year they still made the finals?
If Bosh and Wade were soo good. I love Wade but he was not in his prime when playing in Lebron. How come they couldn't make the playoffs without Lebron?
If Love is soo good, how come Cleveland played better when he wasn't even on the court this year? See Celtics game 7.
If Kobe is soo good and was the heart of the team? How come they went from championship contenders with Shaq and then when Shaq leaves to barely making the playoffs?
Even Michael's teams made it ECF without him.

I totally disagree if I was to rank players they have played with it would be. You lose all credibility when you discount Shaq who is clearly the best player any of these guys have played with and its not even close. Because Shaq is better than Kobe.

Shaq
Pippen
Wade
Gasol
Rodman
Kyrie