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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Feb 17, 2016.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Just no reason to think they would move lillard at all
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    The 2 max FA's isn't the miracle part, thinking that the Spurs or Blazers would give up Kawhi or Dame for the garbage that you are calling a "treasure trove of assets" is the miracle part. They have nothing but replacement level players to offer, you're telling me they couldn't get more elsewhere?

    Nope, I'm just saying that I don't see the best that the Lakers could offer being the best offer for players like Dame or Leonard.
     
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  3. sammy

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    Chris Paul and James Harden will be in Lebron’s ear. Proven success v unproven success. Tell me what’s more appealing to a 33 year old trying to chase multiple championships.
     
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    Depends on what that 33 year old really wants.
     
  5. sammy

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    Right. We can go by what precedent has shown us. It’ll be hopefully be a basketball first decision and he picks Houston

    Also, there’s Lavar Ball. There’s the ghost of Kobe in LA. He doesn’t win big and they’ll say “see Kobe was better.”
     
  6. BigMaloe

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    True. Just speculation and lots of media talk about possibly breaking up lillard McCollum.

    They may be inclined to move them, and they may not.

    Spurs rumors have been heavy all year with the craziness in San Antonio. No one knows what they are doing yet.

    As for Portland, they probably don’t trade Lillard. But hey have serious questions to face regarding the Dame/Cj pairing. Could they trade McCollum instead? Maybe, maybe not.

    Does Minnesota move Butler in fear of him walking in a year? Probably not but it’s worth a call.

    What about Washington? Would they move Beal? Rumors him and wall don’t get along great. Wall is practically untradable. Maybe, maybe not.

    Does Toronto blow it up?

    Surely you can grab Kemba for less if he’s let go.

    The point is, the Lakers are in a pretty good spot to pull a random 3 star pairing. Nothing miracle about it.

    As for the asset collection. Agree to disagree. But they definitely have youth with upside and former high lottery picks and future picks, and those are always valuable.
     
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  7. Vivi

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    Just look at George, he was expiring, he wanted to leave etc...team with the best assets (Boston and Philly) didn't drop the goods cause the guy wanted to go to the Lakers, with Kawhi the same thing could happen eventually.
     
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    Superstars don’t grow on trees. Pretty sure Lillard was ballin out of control last season but then was a huge bust in the playoffs.

    They can look to move CJ.. not Dame
     
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    Woj reports that kawhi wants the max from San Antonio and that if they offer it he’ll take it. I don’t think he’s trying to strong arm his way anywhere
     
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    It's more than just asking if the Spurs or Blazers decide to move those players though, it's asking if they are going to move them, then asking if they'll take replacement level players for their franchise players and assuming that they wouldn't get better offers elsewhere.

    I'm just not willing to make all of those assumptions just to invent a scenario where Lebron going to LA makes sense.
     
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  11. Vivi

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    I agree with this, not sure why the Blazers would move Lillard unless they think CJ is better than him.
     
  12. sammy

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    I think we’ll know what comes from the Pop meeting. I think he’ll convince him to take the 219 m
     
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    Again, the report from Woj is the opposite. Kawhi is trying to convince pop to offer it
     
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  14. Vivi

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    Yeah, i read that today, but i wonder why he wasn't even on the bench during the playoffs if he wants to stay. Something doesn't look right there to me.
     
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  15. sammy

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    Oh well that’s gonna happen
     
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    Agreed. Celtics and Sixers both have more proven young assets (players who have played in meaningful regular season games and playoff games), and they have significantly more draft capital than the Lakers.
    Put Kuzma on a contending this past season, and who knows if he'd even get 20 mins/game? Any player can put up stats on bad teams.. just look at Tony Wroten for the Sixers a few years back. In the end, they're not contributing to any more in the win column.
    Even Quinn Cook averaged 15ppg when Curry was out and actually kinda looked like a serviceable NBA player without any extra baggage unlike Lonzo... maybe ppl should be clamoring for him too... -.-
     
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  17. sammy

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    Tbh, I would be buying this LA stuff more if the landscape of the NBA didn’t change two years ago.

    KD is why we got Paul and why me may get Lebron James
     
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    It always was. Jimmy Buckets is the guy.
     
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    With what assets? Are you pitching in some cash?
     
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    No, but keep in mind that Leonard can somewhat control where he goes by saying he will only accept an extension if traded to team “X”. The Spurs could still trade him to another team but the fact he could bolt would be figured into the value.

    Another thing to consider, Pop is gone in 2 years. Does Leonard really want to stay in SA long term with the uncertainty?

    If Leonard really wants to go to LA he can likely force it.
     
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