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Mike D'Antoni said he isn't a fan of rest thinks it caused hardens shooting to go down

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  1. Mr. Space City

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    damn, good thing the 1995 rockets didn't accept the gentleman's sweep vs. the suns.
     
  2. Swiss Roll

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    Harden's come back from down 3-1, and was one Jermey Lin brain fart from doing it twice, down 3-0 is another story.
     
  3. Mr. Space City

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    ii don't think there is any consequence to "rest vs. rhythm" tho. you take rest every time, especially when you've already locked up home court.
     
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    They are resting. Harden just got a week off. Are you saying they aren't resting?
     
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    if harden didn't go 3-16 in game 3. they're probably not down 3-0
     
  6. Mr. Space City

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    i'm saying the rhythm excuse is trash.
     
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  7. Swiss Roll

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    If Harden went 8-16 and 2-5 from 3, we would have only lost by 24 instead of 35:eek:! Obviously the sole factor for that loss :rolleyes:.
     
  8. Mr. Space City

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    if he would have scored 36 more points they would have won :eek:
     
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    Excuse for what? Excuse for not resting? or Not winning? Of course rhythm can be a reason for losing.

    imo, your 100% rest, absolute statement is an NFL philosophy more than an absolute for the NBA. Different game wrt rhythm.
     
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    they have the first round to get back into rhythm.

    not playing with the full team is not good for rhythm anyways so it's no point if everybody is not playing and getting into rhythm with each other,
     
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    Harden's shooting was in a slump prior to getting rest . I'm sure someone else has already mentioned this.

    Ever since he hurt his hand in Toronto it's been bad .
     
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    To do that he would have to take shots from all the other bricklayers in that game (Brewer 5/15, Terry 2/7, Jones 2/6, Ariza 3/8, Smoov 6/14), taking away what little offensive production they already had, so really he would have had to score 45 more points to win that game.

    But yes, if he scored 60 points per game shooting 80/70/100, we probably don't lose that series.
     
  13. Mr. Space City

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    taking shots away from brewer is never a bad thing.
     
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    See, this is another major difference between NFL rest and NBA rest. You're too focused on prior to the playoff than during the playoffs.

    Do you realize a 1st round sweep can create 8 days of rest vs your opponent only getting 1 or 2. That's like a bye week in the NFL in the middle of the playoffs vs the beginning. Don't you think the most rest you can get prior to 2nd round is worth thinking about? Losing one game in that can steal 3 days of that rest, if not all of it, depending upon bracket.

    Rest after 1st round is probably more important that rest prior to first round. Sweeps are vital to rest.
     
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    a sweep is not guaranteed but rest prior to the first round is.
     
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    Harden is just getting his misses out of the way so that when playoff time hits, he will be due a bunch of made 3 pointers. This is how advanced statistics work.
     
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    I agree. Which is concerning
     
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    And we are resting. Harden got close to a week off, and will rest more. Paul is getting a week off, too.

    Managing rest, instead of sitting all this time. We can both rest, and stay sharp for a sweep, and get even more rest later.
     
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    Mike D'Antoni: Being rested, playing poorly not a good formula
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    TIM MACMAHONESPN Staff Writer7:46 PM ET3 Minute Read

    SAN ANTONIO -- Coach Mike D'Antoni declared that re-establishing a rhythm is a much bigger priority for the Houston Rockets than resting players for the remainder of the regular season after their 11-game winning streak ended with a 100-83 rout by the San Antonio Spurs.


    The Rockets, who have clinched homecourt advantage throughout the playoffs, posted their lowest point total Sunday in two seasons under D'Antoni. Houston also had its worst field goal percentage (33.8) and fewest assists (12) and 3-pointers made (seven) of the season.

    "We just didn't bring it. We just weren't sharp," D'Antoni said. "We haven't been sharp now for about three or four games. It hasn't just been one or two days. That's scary when you rest guys.

    "That's why at the end of the year, you've got to be careful taking guys out and just resting them. Everybody wants rest, rest, rest. Well, they've got to play. Otherwise, we're going to lose the advantage of what you worked for for 80 games, and it's scary times for us. You've got to play. You've got to bring it, and you've got to bring it every day. We'll get it back."

    Star guard Chris Paul has missed five of the past six games due to minor injuries after sitting out the loss to the Spurs. D'Antoni said the Rockets were "erring on the side of caution" as Paul nurses soreness in his left leg. D'Antoni expressed optimism that Paul would play Tuesday against the Washington Wizards.

    MVP frontrunner James Harden,
    center Clint Capela and sixth man Eric Gordoneach sat out a game over the past week to rest and nurse minor injuries as the Rockets took advantage of wrapping up the No. 1 seed.

    The Rockets kept their winning streak going before getting blown out against the Spurs by beating lottery-bound competition in the previous three games, but they readily acknowledge that they haven't played up to their standards recently. Houston was especially sloppy in Friday's win over the Phoenix Suns, when the Rockets rallied from a 21-point deficit and needed a Gerald Greenbuzzer-beater to escape with a win over a team that has the NBA's worst record.

    "We've coasted these last few games," said Harden, who is in the midst of a slump, going 37-of-99 from the floor and 6-of-40 from 3-point range over his last five games. "It's time to amp it up a little bit. Just get our minds and our bodies right and get ready to go."

    Added forward Trevor Ariza: "We definitely don't want to go the playoffs playing the way that we've been playing these past few games. ... Just stay greedy. We are competitors. That's what we do. We have to remember that. We have to continue to play hard and continue to build our habits."

    Harden shrugged off fatigue as a factor in his recent poor shooting. However, he did not dismiss the idea of getting some more rest down the stretch of the regular season, as Harden has done in the past.

    "We're just going to play it game by game and see how it goes," said Harden, who is averaging his fewest minutes since joining the Rockets in 2012. "But for the most part, coach has done a really good job of managing that aspect. For the players, just go out there and compete at a high level."

    The Rockets have rested plenty, as far as D'Antoni concerned. He doesn't consider more rest beneficial for Houston as the playoffs near.

    "Being rested and playing bad is not going to be a good formula going into the playoffs," D'Antoni said. "That's not good. They have enough rest. How it became vogue just not to play, I don't know.
     
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