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House Intel committee votes to release Nunes memo - CNNPolitics

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  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I thought Shapiro was supposed to be smart. He might be, but this statement is idiotic. Why have anything at all classified. Why not just declassify all records in existence?

    I think the idea of classifying evidence is pretty solid and most people know at least theoretically why it should be classified.

    That being said, you can look at things that come out later because of the FOI and see that often it is really only classified because it will make the govt. look bad, and not because of exposing agents, or ways and means of gathering intel. But there isn't really a way to tell that until the information has been declassified.

    In this case, where we are talking about still monitoring people potentially in league with a foreign adversary, it seems pretty obvious why they wouldn't just declassify everything.
     
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    memo here

    https://therightscoop.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/hmtg-115-ig00-20180129-sd001.pdf

    the FBI was working hand in glove with the DNC to generate evidence for a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign, and failed to disclose any of those conflicts to the court

    they used a single source, Steele (who was being paid by the DNC), then tried to claim corroboration via a Yahoo News article, but that article also used Steele as a source, so it wasn't corroboration at all. This was not disclosed to the FISA court
     
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    Highly unethical and inappropriate behavior by the FBI and DOJ...Now the general public will know. TOO bad the media will continue to block this story from the general public... How disgraceful, and people really need jail time.

    Also will expect like clock work by resident dems on this forum to be..."meh"
     
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    I find it funny that the memo harps on the Steele not keeping classified information private....... when the release of the memo itself is the release of classified information that the FBI and State Department both said was not appropriate.
     
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    You expect people to give much weight to a memorandum written by someone (Nunes) that was a member of the Trump Transition Team, didn't personally review the classified information, has been caught lying in the past and has been called inaccurate by the FBI.... and didn't release the other memo? You kind of reap what you sow in that situation.
     
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    What did you expect for GOP these days? Nixon is rolling in his grave, he is so envious of Trump.
     
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    It's not, if you look at the document it clearly states "UNCLASSIFIED" at the top.
     
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    Also find it funny that you had zero qualms about leaks as long as the information released appeared to be detrimental to then candidate and current president Trump
     
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    What do you base this on?

    I do not think that leaks in general are good for the stability of the USA or the confidence of the citizenry.
     
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    Memo summary: Obama admin/DOJ/FBI spied on an American citizen (Trump Campaign member) based on information they KNEW was fake, and in which they also KNEW was funded and provided for by an opposing campaign (DNC, Clinton)
     
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    It's actually the release of un-classified information, because it went through the proper channels.

    and tbh, as a citizen, lets not have the FBI tell us whats appropriate right now, considering this reveal shows what they did was completely inappropriate.
     
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    How is this any different than Watergate?
     
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    Well, first of all, there's no hotel involved.
     
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    I understand that but in terms of spying on your political opponent?
     
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    The memo only suggests that in at least one instance there was an abuse of the FISA system and that improper things were happening on some level likely tied to anti-Trump bias. That said, I'm not sure that the memo was as explosive as it was billed to be. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the fallout is.
     
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    So let me get this straight...The FBI and DOJ who were refused prior attempts at attaining FISA approval earlier in 2016, were able to get a FISC approval once the media pushed a FAKE dossier that the FBI knew was fake...in order to wiretap Carter Page, foreign policy adviser to candidate Trump...how pathetic...
     
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    Where did you read that?

    And funded by both parties you mean?
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    That might be true except that we know the memo released isn't accurate. What is sad is that you believe this memo when we already know that it is inaccurate.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Nope, you don't have it straight. The dossier isn't a fake, there was other information used to get the FISA warrants, and the memo you are getting this from has been shown to have left out information to the point where it isn't accurate.
     

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