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Knicks, Rockets working on Carmelo Anthony trade scenarios

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jul 12, 2017.

  1. mfastx

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    Knew Perry would come in and muck this up lol. Called it from the beginning.
     
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  2. Daddy Long Legs

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    I wont ever trip unless spud changes his pinned tweet
     
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  3. FTW Rockets FTW

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    THIS IS HAPPENING GUYS

    A MATTER OF WHEN NOT IF
     
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    He is taking it down Monday if Melo is not traded.
     
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  5. Fullcourt

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    Well if the deal isn't done by Monday, then I suppose we'd be looking at the opening day date (like the Harden trade). If no deal by then, I don't see any motivation to get it done until the trade deadline.
     
  6. jakedasnake

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    Deal was at the 2 yard line until Refrigerator Perry was sent into the game to muck it up on defense.
     
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    If the deal isn't done to start the season then the deal isn't likely to happen. If the Knicks don't blink by then I don't see any reason to think they'll blink at the deadline. If anything I think a deal gets harder in the season because any potential 3rd team now has more options they can pursue in trades. The Rockets don't get better assets as the year goes on.
     
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  8. Bobsputin

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    I agree

    I would like to think Melo would threaten to opt in to next yr to give the Knicks more incentive. He doesn't seem like the kind that would do that though.
     
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  9. justtxyank

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    I'm sure he has. I know people won't listen to me, but like I've said this entire time, Melo opting in is not as bad a scenario as them taking back a longer deal than Melo.
     
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    I'm not saying it's going to happen or not but I think a lot of us underrate how stupid the Knicks are. They're a volatile franchise & they have been for years, their stupidity is still seemingly unpredictable. I've always thought a logical train of thought doesn't really apply to them. We'll see.
     
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    No... those sources are inside organizations of Rockets and Knicks. Rockets and Knicks aren't telling Woj as of yet. Because once they do media will take it as done deal
     
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    So let's let them do what's "right for the team" and back out... We don't need Melo, we want Melo.... I think Anderson could benefit from Paul and have a good year. If Melo wants Houston he will end up here in a year. We should retract all offers and get the team focused on the season... Let New York autodestruct...
     
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    Reshaping The Knicks: Agility Plus Intuition Required

    Everything starts with a strong foundation, the Knicks’ new general manager writes, but flexibility is crucial, too.

    At first blush, the NBA is a league of stars, big and strong, flashy long-range shooters, high jumpers, everyone moving at breakneck speed. It may seem at times like a game celebrating the individual over team, a giant skills competition.

    That, however, is an illusion.

    Peel back the veneer, and you’ll find something else, a game where none of that razzle dazzle stuff happens without someone emerging from a crowd under the boards to pull down a hard-fought rebound, without players who can read the whole court and find the open man, without a group hungry to play stalwart defense.

    Thirty years in basketball, along the coaching lines and in the front office, have taught me that these ideas are timeless. Now, having just become Knicks GM, I’m convinced they are the foundation for long-term success.

    There are no shortcuts. Reshaping the Knicks as a championship contender will be a step-by-step process, and along the way, the plan will demand patience, as our young core of Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway Jr., Willy Hernangómez, Frank Ntilikina and Ron Baker mature.

    But allow me to add a twist.

    I don’t view my job as an either-or proposition. A general manager — especially in today’s world of free agency and player movement — must always have his antenna up for all possibilities. That requires a kind of agility mixed with intuition.

    For instance, a free agent may come along who, you calculate, will give you a boost but doesn’t fit your long-term strategy. So you pass on him.

    But let’s say there’s a player we’ve identified from the beginning, and he comes our way earlier than expected. And let’s say that his presence will help us develop our young players even more. That might be the moment to act.

    Indeed, as time goes by, a solid foundation will actually help you be more flexible, readier to seize upon an unexpected opportunity.

    Learning From Struggle

    People have told me I’m a good listener, an instinct honed over three college coaching jobs and as an executive in the NBA with Detroit, Seattle, Orlando and Sacramento. My father, Lowell, deserves most of the credit. He was an All-American collegian who moved from professional football to the broadcast booth and into business, always blazing many trails for African-Americans.

    I was impressed by the way my father gave of himself, managing to see each person he encountered as an individual. He was kind, but always direct. Perhaps people see a trace of that in me.

    Knicks players and coaches will find that I am demanding and yet empathetic. Most people overcome adversity to achieve success, and I try to appreciate the player’s perspective. Playing quarterback in high school in Detroit, I was blindsided and suffered a compound fracture of my right arm. I can still recall the pain, and I have a screw in there as a souvenir.

    If there was a watershed moment for me during that time, it was that injury. It made me more empathetic, and it actually made me a better and smarter basketball player.

    For one thing, it made me better with my left hand, and overall it spurred me on to work on my body more rigorously, to understand the importance of strength.

    More profoundly, years later as a college coach, when I was recruiting and developing young men from all different backgrounds, I could recognize the struggles and obstacles they were confronting. I suppose I became wise for my age.

    A Contest of Wills

    From the beginning, I’ve been around a lot of people with good basketball minds. Growing up, there were always coaches and people smart about sports coming in and out of the house, invited over by my father. And I’ve gleaned so much from the coaches, scouts and other general managers I’ve had the opportunity to work with in the NBA. Their wisdom on how to bring a group of young men together has stuck with me.

    The Knicks team I envision is filled with players who lift one another’s game — a goal that animated the discussions I had with Knicks president Steve Mills both before and after I came aboard.

    Talent is crucial, but talent without will won’t get you far. If my team’s makeup is to attack all loose balls and win that battle more than our opponent, only then will I be satisfied. That’s the kind of club I want to construct, the sort of team I’d pay to watch.

    I want us to set a standard. I want us to put our stakes in the ground and say, “this is our culture.”

     
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    Winks only work if you know how to wink. ;)
     
  16. RockWest

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    PJ Tucker etc will be eligible for trading in a few months. Probably some nonguranteed congrats too
     
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  18. justtxyank

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    Right, if we are going to trade the guys who took paycuts to come play with their best friends we can improve our offer. Not happening.
     
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  19. Pen15clubber

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    But that empty room pic tho
     
  20. J.R.

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    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...what-will-knicks-do-with-melo-sixers-healthy/

    1. Seriously, Knicks, what are you doing?
    Media day for the Knicks is Monday, September 25, and the team still hasn't traded disgruntled Carmelo Anthony. It's been nearly a year since New York first began seriously exploring moving Anthony, and in that time, Phil Jackson has been removed as head of basketball operations, the Knicks have had to mend fences with Kristaps Porzingis, a trade involving the Rockets acquiring Melo has gotten reportedly close and then backed away from, seasons have changed, months have gone by and, still, Anthony is technically a Knick.

    I say "technically," because Anthony is nowhere to be found on the team's website outside of the roster page.

    Yet, he is on the roster.

    Expect talks to continue as the Knicks try and avoid the awkwardness of a media day with Anthony having to field questions about why, exactly, he's still in New York. Some of that's on him, given his no-trade clause and selectiveness in where he's willing to go, but the Knicks have to push a deal to the finish line. You can't start a new chapter without turning the page. ​
     

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