Voter ID laws appear to be working to suppress Democrat votes

So then you'd support waiving requirements to see ID before purchasing firearms? I mean, showing ID doesn't actually accomplish anything according to you, so why set up a barrier to exercising your rights?

 

There is no right to purchase firearms, you have a right to own firearms. Your comparison is not correct.

 

Yup, must just be that "not an idiot" privilege popping up. I've spelled out everything required in order to get an ID, pointed out how it's not expensive or difficult to get.....and you just suggest that it is somehow difficult for some anyway. Those who struggle with 2+2 are idiots. It's okay to admit that.

 

LOL, that's absolutely stupid and divorced from reality. At least you did your best I guess.

 

Absolutely, except the actions being taken aren't reasonable.

When was the last time someone was shot to death by a ballot?

Not significant to you, to be sure.

Not significant to you, to be sure.

Nice assumption you've got there, with a side of not significant to you, to be sure.

Really? What DPS offices are open outside normal working hours? For someone who lacks ID, a MINIMUM of one trip to the DPS will be required.

Again, an assumption that is belied by the facts as laid out in the Texas case.

Again, an assumption that is belied by the facts as laid out in the Texas case.

 

Read the facts as laid out in the Texas case. Until then, you're just tossing out insults that clearly indicate you're bereft of actual arguments, as usual.

 

And strict voter ID laws don't accomplish anything in an election context considering voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Creating more Voter ID restrictions is nonsensical. You are creating a solution to a nonexistent problem.

 

I do love that bobby has completely ignored the facets of these laws that have nothing to do with identification. He is brilliant in his ignorance, without question.

 

So then you agree that they should remove the requirement to show ID for buying a handgun? Like you keep saying, it doesn't actually accomplish anything to require ID.....

 

not really, where in the 2nd amendment does the word "purchase" appear...

 

I can't tell if you are being serious or not. Honestly I hope you are just being a contrarian or doing some light hearted trolling.

 

So "reading the facts in the Texas case", in your mind, will somehow make the REALLY easy requirements to get an ID somehow more difficult?

The reason I'm responding to you as if you are an idiot is because you are arguing from the position of a simpleton. It's just impossible to take you seriously when you take positions like this.

 

Dude, it's a wasted argument regarding the point about how easy/hard it is to get an ID. The ONLY political motivation behind the voterID laws is as a tool to gain political advantage. Nothing more, nothing less. Greg Abbott, Chris Christie, etc etc etc have all stated this in public forums.

The argument about voter fraud and/or ease of voterID is only a distraction. It's all about politicians who are trying to gain the upper hand in the next election.

 

There clearly is a problem and a solution.

Problem - Higher turnout among the public isn't good for GOP. Higher turnout in DEM areas aren't good for GOP.

Solution - Restrict voting in general. Restrict voting in DEM area.

Cheaters.

 

While folks are debating whether voter fraud happens and struggle to find instances, this type of thing happens...

Republicans limiting early voting in Marion County, letting it bloom in suburbs

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...hows-unequal-barrier-indiana-polls/435450001/

 

No, reading the facts will help you to understand that for many people, it isn't as easy as you assume.

Yes, for someone as deluded as you, taking a position based on reality is very limiting. If you'd like a simple solution, join us in the real world.

 

I spelled the facts out to you when it comes to what exactly you have to do to get an ID including the costs associated even for those who don't have basic documents that literally everyone should have always.

Your issue here is that you are in over your head and you don't have any substantive basis for your argument and the weak ass BS you are coming with falls apart under just about any scrutiny.

 

We should stop talking about how easy it is to get an ID. It isn't really relevant at this point. There is no evidence that the system we currently have isn't working in any significant way.

There are statements from the people who have crafted and support these bills that the desired effect is to prevent and suppress minority voting.

There are studies showing that the laws have indeed suppressed minority voting.

So whether or not someone who isn't affected by the new laws believes it's easy to acquire an ID doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't mean that the laws aren't racist in their intent.

 

Except that it is very relevant. The argument against voter ID is that it's so incredibly difficult to get an ID that it would be an unfair burden to those when it comes to exercising their right to vote.

 

All true. Everyone knows it's about suppressing votes to win elections. It's disgusting.