3rd Attempt: GOP/Trump Repeal & Replace ACA and Trump lie about pre-exist coverage

A visual representation of TheresTheDagger and dandorotik's internet argument on healthcare.

 

Yes you were just an innocent bystander making snide ass comments when this vote affects millions of families mine included...essentially celebrating over their misfortune... one created entirely by the **** party you support.

Doesn't feel so good when you have to face it happening to your loved ones does it?

SHAME ON YOU
(I can do the paint and bolding **** too)

 

I think the realization that a bunch of you have been sold a bill of goods for years has finally hit you. Republicans tried to repeal ACA like 38 times? Kept challenging it in court. Never made any attempt to improve upon it to help every day Americans. Republicans played politics with people's health and their attempt to take health care from tens of millions just failed again. Undoubtedly you all will double down on stupid as you have since Obama was first elected to the detriment of the country. It's what you do. As if you could elect any more incompetent, depraved, buffoon than Trump.

Next up for you idiots is a tax cut for the rich for you to choke on. MAGA indeed.

 

The aborted bill was a reduction in medicaid benefits and a tax cut for the rich.

Passing it would not have made your families less at risk for losing catastrophic coverage. It would benefit those making 6 figures should they stash their money in HSAs.



But yeah, blame the "enemy" and not the politicians in power.

 

The bill (sadly) did not touch Medicaid

 

Why would premiums increase if your risk profile hasn't changed?

 

This link says otherwise.

 

Don't know if you realize it, but this is exactly what Trump tweeted, twice, after each failure for repeal.

The GOP promised to repeal and replace (Trump said it's going to be so easy). They control all power and they can't get a plan that they can agree among themselves to pass. That's after 7 years of "work". The blame here is with them for the failure of repealing and replacing with something that is BETTER.

Loving it so much - relative to the bill that was proposed, one that was finalized literally over a few hours and then presented to other senators and the public at 10pm yesterday for a vote at midnight, yes that is true. The impact of the new law would be 20% raise in premium and 15M less insured. It's a "disaster" said GOP Senators.

Loving it so much - of course not. I don't know anyone that is happy with health care system today, but this isn't the repeal and replace that make it any better, but much worse. The next step is, if you can't replace with anything better, work on improving it. All would be better for it...

If you are serious, and I know Trump is, and allow it, or even worse, make sure "it fail", who will suffer? Trump sure is not, but I bet every single one of us know someone that will. It's quiet irresponsible - and gut check - the truth is this has been exactly a political game. Obamacare would have been improved during the past 7 years, but that wouldn't be good politically for the GOP. The GOP has played the game and played it well for 7 years and now that they can't solve it after winning elections on it, they are just going to continue to play the game to the very end at the cost to the people. So that in the end, maybe it get so bad for everyone, that this disastrous bill that just failed get a chance to actually pass? That's the end game? Fk that, but hey, if more American get angry at the left and blame them, that might just happen when they continue to vote in the party that will hurt them more.

 

We are extremely lucky tonight. Again, there is a lot of forked-tongue talk, because as soon as the bill came up, every republican, minus a guy with a brain tumor was ready to vote yes on a sweeping bill. What happens if, god forbid, Mccain succumbs to the cancer. They will get somebody in his seat and they will pass this bill, or something similar.

Make no mistake republicans are itching to pass this bill.

I also doubt that they are going to move to "working" with the democrats as they suggest. They are going to wait the McCain illness out, before they do something else, which is in and of itself a pretty shitty strategy, but that's what the republicans are known for.

 

If the two parties can come together to pass a market stabilization bill this will be good for America.

If instead the Republicans throw a tantrum about not getting their bills passed and refuse to address the ACA and trump kills the subsidy payments, this will be horrible for America.

Let's see if maturity wins the day. I'm not counting on it.

 

I read in politico that no other president has tried so hard to derail the accomplishments of his predecessor. It's become trump's big willy or is that Moby dick.
The question is why does he hate Obama so much. I don't think Trump is a racist. Trump knows the struggle of a minority just ask don king. =)
Where did Obama and Trump go wrong?

 

Well he can kill it if he wants to. If he announces that they will no longer fund the subsidies that will kill the ACA in nearly every state.

People will lose coverage and people will die.

 

Don't be so smug about this victory. The republicans were ready to pass this legislation.

 

There's no victory here.

Instead of jumping off the cliff we walked up to the edge of it and are playing "do you trust me" with a 5 year old.

 

The Dems wanted to work in a bi-partisan fashion - Obamacare is a Republican idea - one developed by Newt Gingrich back in the 90's and implemented by Mitt in MA. Republicans wanted to stone-wall Obama and make him a one-term president, so they refused to work with Dems. Don't try to rewrite history or be grossly ignorant.

 

Wow, I thought you had principals. Now it's clear you are not a good person.

 

If John Mccain steps down it will be up to Gov. Doug Ducey to come up with a replacement. The replacement must be a republican. Plus, you have trump who isn't willing to "help" Obamacare out.

So one way or the other, republicans are going to get what they wish.

 

I can't wait to hear all day long from Republican media that "we promised the American people for 7 years to repeal".

So sick of hearing that nonsense. That's incorrect. First of all Trump essentially ran on single payer with the description of his healthcare plan that in his words "everyone will be covered". The Paul Ryan's ran on premiums coming down ... this bill didn't do that. In fact it had them going up 20%.

What you campaigned on was making insurance more affordable. What you tried to produce was nothing but a huge tax cut at the expense of millions of people losing health coverage. That's fundamentally different than what they ran on despite what you'll hear all day from the GOP pundits who say "we ran on this and the American people wanted THIS".

Nobody on the left is so in love with Obamacare that they wouldn't mind a different bill and structure, but look at the fundamentals of what your party tried to pass under our noses in the den of night. Do Republicans think we are that stupid or are their voters really that ignorant?

 

The only one who might have known was graham. Others didn't know. They were separating these senators in the floor to try to get their vote up to the last second