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Jared Kushner Senate Intelligence Committee discussion thread

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Jared Kushner to appear before Senate Intelligence Committee Monday

    White House senior adviser Jared Kushner has agreed to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee as part of its investigation into Russian election meddling on Monday, July 24, ABC News has learned. The closed-door session sets up what could be one of the most highly anticipated interviews for lawmakers to date.

    Kushner's lawyer Abbe Lowell confirmed the meeting to ABC News. “As Mr. Kushner has been saying since March, he has been and is prepared to voluntarily cooperate and provide whatever information he has on the investigations to Congress," Lowell said. "Working with and being responsive to the schedules of the committees, we have arranged Mr. Kushner's interview with the senate for July 24. He will continue to cooperate and appreciates the opportunity to assist in putting this matter to rest.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jared-kushner-senate-intelligence-committee-monday/story?id=48725358
     
  2. adoo

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    Kushner has the most to lose

    The Washington Post, in an editorial, pointed out that among the three Trump campaign staff who attended the June 9 meeting at Trump Tower with the Russian lawyer and a former Soviet counterintelligence officer, it is Kushner who stands to lose the most with the Russia probe.

    • Fredo Trump had no operational role in the campaign.
    • Manafort was known for his shady deals with Russians and Ukrainians, while
    • Kushner was tasked with oversight of the Trump campaign’s digital operations. His problems stem from the conclusion of the U.S. intelligence community that Russia meddled with the election and the interference took place mostly in cyberspace.

    Kushner is also a White House official as a senior adviser to his father-in-law. in his application for security clearance, he failed to disclose his meetings w Russians w ties to the Kremlin, such as the above June 9 meeting with Russians, his security clearance could be revoked.​


    http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2017/07/jared-kushners-second-lawyer-quits-001851221.html
     
  3. bongman

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    When does Trump throw Kush under the bus?
     
  5. Rocketman1981

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    I truly believe the media is just insanely obsessed with the nothing that is Russian collusion.

    Trump Jr. and the amateur group taking meetings thinking they'll get intel on Hillary sounds more like
    ignorance and stupidity rather than a nefarious global conspiracy.

    That being said while I like some of Trumps ideas on Taxes, Regulation and reduction of government in our commerce,
    I really think all this media circus around nothing with Trump could cloud the real potential future crimes of people like
    Kushner that looks to advance his economic wealth based on opportunities based on his position.

    Having one of his and his brothers invested tech firms with a valuation of a few hundred million with the largest tech
    CEO's in the world is an example of this.

    The media needs to take off their tinfoil hats and just wait till there actually is something because most people and
    especially conservatives so distrust the media that if Trump/Kushner does do something illegal or sinister in the
    future based on the opportunities in office then no one will believe the media that cried wolf.
     
  6. Nolen

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    This is a really poor defense: "It's not a crime because they're too stupid to know it was wrong!" Umm, that ain't gonna keep you outta jail unless the president pardons you.

    The media does too often focus on stupid bullshit, like the Polish presidnet's wife's non-handshake, all kinds of obsessing over details and gotchas that are meaningless. The Russia investigation is not one of those things.

    If Kushner hadn't hidden his meetings when applying for his security clearance
    If Flynn hadn't lied about his contacts with the Russians
    If Trump hadn't lied about his contacts with the Russians
    If the admin didn't keep lying and changing it's spin on new revelations
    If Trump hadn't fired the head of the FBI investigating him and then
    If he hadn't admitted in an interview that he did it "because of the Russia thing"
    If Trump released his ****ing tax returns
    If Don Jr. didn't get busted soliciting help from a hostile foreign state in our election
    The list goes on and on...

    THEN MAYBE THIS WOULDN'T BE SUCH A BIG DEAL. All of you who are tired of the media obsessing over this, blame the administration, because what they have done has only served to amplify and lengthen every Russia story to it's maximum depth.
     
  7. Nolen

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    If you really are concerned about this, you should be concerned with your fellow traveler's ability to excuse and overlook anything and everything the administration does and says. Already in the last six months we've seen a breathtaking audacity on behalf of the administration to indulge in nepotism and use the office of the executive as a means to line their own pockets. But none of this can make the headlines because other scandals are so numerous.

    A recent poll shows that less than half of Republicans believe that Don Jr was at the meeting, even though he himself published the emails admitting he wanted to meet. If you're so worried about the administration not being held accountable, stop blaming the media and take a hard look at the republican voting base, who are apparently able to deny just about anything. What does it matter what the media or anyone else says, when this is the case?

    Regardless, the fact Mueller has a big budget, wide jurisdiction, and a team of RICO lawyers spells all sorts of trouble far beyond the collusion investigation. Once they hone in on money laundering and other shady business of the last 20 years, collusion is just going to be another drop in the bucket.
     
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    How much are they going to drag Clinton's name through the mud?
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    Which one (Bill, Hillary or Chelsea)? And maybe try to deflect blame to Obama too? Heck, Rice, and Podesta?
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    Sessions was sensible enough to recuse himself for lying knowing full well the shitstorm brewing if he didn't , only to be thrown under the bus by Trump.

    Pathetic!
     
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    How many times will he say "I don't remember" or "I don't recall"?
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    gee, Senator Grassley wrote such a nice note about Don Junior and Manafort. Guess Kushner was a bit naughty...



    But... no public testimony. So much for transparency and integrity.
     
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    Oops... somehow missed these 77 or so additional assets of $10M...
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/kushner-discolsoure-report-77-omitted-assets-240833
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    btw... Grassley-led Senate investigation is interviewing Manafort, Trump Junior and Kushner but not under oath. Yea... that will help...
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/...ushner-the-prince-of-having-it-both-ways.html


    Jared Kushner, the Prince of Having It Both Ways
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    On Monday, Jared Kushner is set to appear before the Senate Intelligence Committee, but not so that we can listen. Not so that we can watch. It’s a closed-door affair, meaning that unlike Jeff Sessions, Kushner gets to dance in the dark.

    How fitting. We always see his fingerprints but never hear his voice. He throws his weight around, then floats above it all. No wonder the president’s lawyers and various White House aides and advisers are fed up with him. He’s there but not there: a meddlesome ghost. A puff of smoke.

    .......... Kushner and the POTUS blithely straddle irreconcilable contradictions to get what they want. But in Kushner’s case — in Ivanka Trump’s, too — that has been an especially perverse spectacle. He and she are the prince and princess of having it both ways.

    They expect our gratitude for their supposed (and only occasionally successful) efforts to tame Trump. But they’re also the ones who worked so mightily to put him in a position where, untamed, he can do such damage. It’s as if they deliberately shattered a glass, grabbed a broom and then solicited applause for their sweeping.

    They cover for the president still. Smack in the middle of his cockamamie interview with The Times last week, Ivanka dropped by the Oval Office so that her daughter, Arabella, could give Grandpa a kiss. How precious. How humanizing. How entirely choreographed.

    Grandpa spent the duration of his campaign mocking the establishment swells who migrate to enclaves like Davos, Switzerland, and Sun Valley, Idaho, for high-altitude, highfalutin conferences on the conundrums of modern life. That didn’t stop Kushner and Ivanka from joining those very swells in Sun Valley a week and a half ago for precisely such a symposium-on-the-slopes.

    They’re outsiders when that’s politically advantageous, insiders as soon as the canapés come around.

    It’s an elaborate moral jujitsu they perform. There’s one constant — their self-advancement and self-preservation — but Kushner may be overplaying his hand.

    His counsel to Trump has been flawed, to say the least. He reportedly lobbied for the firing of James Comey, which didn’t turn out so well. Maybe the hiring of Anthony Scaramucci as the new White House communications director — a move blessed by Kushner, over the objections of Reince Priebus, the chief of staff — will prove wiser. that remains to be seen.

    Cast as one of the president’s most dependable assets, Kushner could in fact be a significant liability, someone whose escapades — by turns grabby and cavalier — give investigators and detractors a whole extra sandbox of improprieties to rummage through.

    rumors abound that he feels persecuted. Wronged. In that regard, too, he’s like his father-in-law, though Trump wears his self-pity, fury and ruthlessness right out front, for the whole world to see. Kushner puts a pale mask of calm and courteousness over his.

    Maybe the senators who question him on Monday will pry it off. Maybe they’ll actually bring some color to his face. We won’t be able to witness what happens. But we’ll find out.


     
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  16. Aceshigh7

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    Why create a thread for this? Nobody created a thread for when Susan Rice was scheduled to testify, or the CEO of Fusion GPS.
     
  17. Invisible Fan

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    No one created a Manafart thread either.

    It could be the nepotism and the fact that Kushner several duties that any other sane president would appoint one person for each role.
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    The thread discussing Susan Rice and "unmasking" had almost 225 posts. Or knock yourself out and start a knew one. Kushner is currently high up in the current Trump administration and appears to be deeply entwined in the Russian scandal. Plus he has lied about his involvement. So a thread Bout this seems pertinent.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    Kushner learning from his father-in-law... blames someone else...

    Kushner blames aide for filing incomplete security clearance form
    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...learance-form-prematurely-submitted-due-to-a#
     
  20. ROXTXIA

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    I lived in Iowa many years. I have family there (my dad and his siblings and their grown kids and their kids and so forth). My family's support of Trump is one thing, obviously cultural and racist (it was from my family in Iowa where I first learned that the birther movement was quite real, thank you, although I subsequently met many fellow Houstonians who believe it, too). But Grassley? I might have expected a little better from the guy than carrying water for this president.
     

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