what is the guy talking about porzingis goes number 1 in this draft EASILY, that seems like a fair package to offer to give for a 21 year old budding superstar
so it looks more likely that it was posturing and a way for "discipline" meant to scare him and make him behave well. But instead : You got the whole city of NY rebelling with even signs in MSG asking him not to be traded. Everyone calling Phil Jackson an egoitistic senile old man who sleeps during scouting. Media making fun of the state of the Knicks, free agents and draft picks think that NY is a dumbster fire and only a last resort destination. So Knicks have tarnished their reputation even more, PJ has destroyed his, while Porzingis has gotten his ego even more stroked to do whatever he wants from now on. Good job.
This needs to happen. I'm surprised the Jimmy Butler trade happened before this. I suspect many teams are going to wait and see what happens here before making a move.
I think they will keep him at this point..or not? Can't believe we're at a point in which there's a more dysfunctional franchise than the Kings...or two actually (add Chicago).
The Knicks have been among the most dysfunctional in the league a couple decades. Coincidentally, Dolan became the guy there in 1999. It's my opinion it doesn't matter who they hire as GM. It doesn't matter who their coach is. It barely even matters what players are on their team. So long as James Dolan owns the New York Knicks their culture will be toxic and they will fail.
Doubt the plan was ever to trade him, the rumored trade offer (by Phil to Celtics) was crazy. Probably Phil was just playing mind games with Porzingis. Porzingis probably needed it too. He's 21 years old and hasn't achieved that much, he shouldn't be skipping team meetings because he doesn't like 'direction of the team'. New York hype is getting into his head.
Knicks offered Joakim Noah in Kristaps Porzingis trade talks The only person who really knows how close the New York Knicks came to trading Kristaps Porzingis before Thursday’s draft is Phil Jackson. Everyone involved will say publicly (and, probably, anonymously to reporters) that the trade wasn't close. (Jackson didn't want to comment on the Knicks' trade discussions Thursday night.) League sources, though, say that members of the Knicks front office were at the very least intrigued by some offers they received for Porzingis over the course of the past few days. Jackson and the Knicks' asking price turned out to be too high (it was described by one opposing team as astronomical), which makes sense. You ask for a massive return when you're talking about trading a young star. Again, just how close the Knicks got to doing a deal is unclear. One holdup to some discussions might have been Joakim Noah. Another? Jimmy Bulter. Sources told Ramona Shelburne and I that Noah's name came up in multiple discussions about possible Porzingis trades with Jackson and the Knicks looking to send out the remainder of the four-year, $72 million contract that he signed last offseason. Butler factored in because one of the many offers discussed between Boston and the Knicks, per sources, included Boston's third pick, a second 2017 lottery pick and an additional player (Jaylen Brown, Avery Bradley and Marcus Smart were among the names discussed). That second lottery pick was supposed to be acquired via trade -- and members of the Celtics organization viewed Minnesota's No. 7 pick as attainable, sources say. That pick eventually was traded by Minnesota to Chicago in the Butler deal. So Boston didn't have that second lottery pick to offer New York in exchange for Porzingis. The Phoenix Suns also held out hope a little over an hour before the draft that the Knicks would consider their offers for Porzingis, but knew it was a long shot. Ultimately, nothing came to fruition.
I had forgotten the Knicks signed Joakim Noah to a 4 year, $72 million contract. Good lord, what were they thinking?
