[UK Domestic Violence] 19 dead in suicide attack after Ariana Grande UK concert

1. They kill our innocents.
2. We kill their innocents.
3. ????
4. PEACE!

 

That is a terrible idea. It first assumes some kind of participation by the family. It also seems to assume that they too themselves are radical Islamic extremist. And for that matter, seems to assume that their families at all are Muslim. What if turns out they are Episcipalian Christians?

 

Not only that you've just created thousands of Muslim Bruce Waynes fueling with rage that their parents or other loved ones died. It's a never ending cycle.

 

No thanks. Much rather stay here and educate you- because you do need it.

It is a shame, though, that you can't handle it. Aren't WE supposed to be the snowflakes?

 

Why do you blatantly misinterpret the words that are right in front of your eyeballs? Are you that completely and utterly stupid? I said that YOU, by singling out one group, are giving others a pass. I said not one word about offending people. I mean, I wrote it in Standard Written English- if that is too difficult for you to comprehend, I can't help you.

And stop already with the PC bullshit- because that's what it is - complete, total bullshit. It's a full-scale exaggeration and deep down, I'm sure you know it. Not going after families that produce terrorists has nothing to do with PC- it has to do with the Rule of Law. You want to interrogate him, search their belongings on suspicion of wrongdoing? Fine. But what President Trump proposed was killing family members. That is murdering innocent people without due process. If you think that's acceptable, then you have to admit that you only care about the Rule of Law when it suits your political ideology.

 

Oh, we all know he only cares about legality if it aligns with his political narrative. He'd say it's in the name of security- but if that's the case, then every time a white male goes on a rampage and kills dozens of people, we should lock up his family. No more protecting white people. That will send a message to any white guy out there who even thinks about going on a rampage. If you apply the "family" rule to Muslims, you should apply it to all.

 

Your entire argument is based on political correctness. You brought up white people and then called me racist. Typical liberal way to argue. You think loony white guy shooting equates to a terrorist organization who are dead set on killing all infidels. This why you will continue to lose the war against terrorism. Your mindset belongs in a fantasy world where rainbow pops out of people's ass. This it the real world. No time to be politically correct.

 

Liberals still defending the religion of peace

Laughable

 

Then you educate me and tell me why we shouldn't go after the families of mass murderers who are non-Islamic. Because they have wiped out way more individuals than Islamic terrorists.

 

We take our lead from the current and former Republican Presidents.

 

You're punching a strawman but I'll let it slide and ask...

What's your solution?

 

The lefties around here only care about virtue signaling. Not answers.

 

I'll be fair and retract the 40% statement. That isn't fair to everyone that voted for Trump as I noted before (see Susie from Iowa statement). I am disgusted at the Deplorable Trump fans whatever percentage of the 40% they are. 5%, 10%, whatever they are... they are real and they are terrible for this country.

Let's not get in a Hillary argument please but it was clear in that statement she was stating that the Trump fans that feed on racism and xenophobia were deplorable.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.time...ary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/

Yes it wasn't politically smart to use the verbiage (because we see what the Right did to weaponize it) and maybe Hillary is an elitist. However I'm perfectly capable of saying that Hillary sucks but I agree with the notion that yes... a portion of Trump fans are despicable. Hence the notion that some of them came on the DD today and used a horrible terrorist attack to go after Liberals as if they are the problem.

But no I don't snub my nose like a liberal elitist at everyone that voted for Trump. Nobody I know that is a liberal walks down the street and says derogatory things or snubs their nose about regular old, or young white people. I live in freaking Texas for crying loud. I'm surrounded and are friends with Trump voters all day every day. It's time to stop feeling so damn sorry for yourselves and take some accountability. Everyone is so angry all the time it's pathetic.

 

Really? I think many liberal posters have posted more pragmatic solutions.

Playing the current game of 'wak a mole' for the past decade and a half obviously hasn't worked.

The end game solution is energy dependence to the point that nations like Saudi have no more leverage this we can economicly shun them untill they purge out their wahhabist loons.

The less dependent the world is on carbon based energy, the less influential the Saudis can be.

 

The day you provide actual solutions, we'll listen to you.

 

...and right on point, they turn the discussion to protecting the environment.

clueless

no wonder you lose every election

 

I agree with you that this would be good.

But you also need to be willing to lead the intellectual discourse and point out what's wrong with the ideology. I don't agree with those who say that will just alienate the moderates. If someone is alienated just because their ideology is questioned in any way, they were not moderate to begin with.

 

Not to be a hippie liberal Tree hugger or anything but actually the environment plays a pretty damn big part in all of this.

Go look up the history of the Arab Springs in The Middle East. That unrest and uprising had a lot to do with the cultural collision course that happened when farmers had to start moving to cities like Alleppo during the droughts of the past 15 years. Due to climate change.

It's not the entire cause of terrorism in the world but it should be noted that it has played a part and climate change (if things get worse as predicted) could cause more issues if it forcses massive amounts of people to move again.

 

cause and effect. gaddafi kept the extremists in libya in check. then kill happy hillary happened.