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James Harden is gonna get screwed over again in MVP Voting

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HardenTime, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

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    I would rather have Manu.

    That's a good poll question too.
     
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  2. DreamShook

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    Man, Williams' arguments were so bad, Tony started laughing at him after the segment.
     
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  3. samtaylor

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    Any argument for LeBron is laughable.
    • "He has a career high in assists"...So does Harden, and Harden has more
    • "He's the number one seed!"...Rockets have more wins than the Cavs
    • "He's the best player!"...That's not how the award is voted on, LeBron would have like 8 straight MVPs if that's the case
    • "He had the best NBA Finals performance ever"...That's why he won Finals MVP, we are talking about the 2016-17 regular season
    LeBron has also "rested" for 5 games, has two all-stars in Irving and Love, and should have 50+ wins already, but they are underachieving.
     
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  5. Swiss Roll

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    From BBall reference:

    Win Shares
    1. James Harden • HOU 13.7
    2. Rudy Gobert • UTA 11.9
    3. Kawhi Leonard • SAS 11.8
    4. Kevin Durant • GSW 11.4
    5. Isaiah Thomas • BOS 11.0
    6. Russell Westbrook • OKC 10.9
    7. LeBron James • CLE 10.8
    8. Giannis Antetokounmpo • MIL 10.6
    9. Jimmy Butler • CHI 10.5
    10. Karl-Anthony Towns • MIN 10.3
    11. Stephen Curry • GSW 10.1
    12. Anthony Davis • NOP 9.7
    13. DeAndre Jordan • LAC 9.6
    14. Kyle Lowry • TOR 9.5
    15. Gordon Hayward • UTA 9.4
    16. Otto Porter • WAS 8.7
    17. Mike Conley • MEM 8.2
    18. Chris Paul • LAC 8.2
    19. Damian Lillard • POR 8.0
    20. Nikola Jokic • DEN 8.0

    The leader in WS is tied with only Best Record as the main indicators of who is going to win MVP (65%), and Harden is dominant in that category. However, there is still concern over wether the Trippy-Dubby storyline is going to carry Russ to an MVP, as the last player to not win MVP while leading the NBA in winshares was... James Harden in 14-15.

    BTW, here is the list of players who led the NBA in WS who didn't win MVP since 2000. Try to think of wether the MVP in that year was more undeserving in the public's eyes.

    James Harden (14-15) MVP: Stephen Curry
    LeBron James (10-11) MVP: Derrick Rose
    Chris Paul (07-08) MVP: Kobe Bryant
    Dirk Nowitzki (05-06) MVP: Steve Nash
    Kevin Garnett (04-05) MVP: Steve Nash
    Shaquille O'Neal (00-01) MVP: Allen Iverson

    BTW: the faux MVPs have made 2 finals, the Real MVPs have made 3.
     
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    Cowherd actually sounds intelligent here. Not because it fits my narrative or the one I want, but he actually provides information this time around.

    Weird.

    Stephen A, Bayless, and Cowherd all think Harden deserves the trophy. What....?
     
  7. Swiss Roll

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    Woah hold up, SKIP FRICKIN' BAYLESS said that Harden should be MVP? Imma need proofs for that
     
  8. Cashmoney

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    Bayless?? Did I miss something? That dude is all over westbrick
     
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  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    Give a piece of clay to Lebron, he makes a mold, he can give it to this guy as an authentic dildo. How are these people so stupid? They can't even construct a basic argument. A lot of them come across as low educated to begin with, but not knowing jack about basketball makes me facepalm.
     
  10. Reeko

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    Yeah, when did that happen? Maybe he pulled a Broussard and started flip flopping.
     
  11. BigM

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    I don't know who the **** that dude is. I first saw him covering tennis and thought he was a former tennis player but I don't think he is. He's got a terrible voice for broadcasting and I have no idea why ESPN tries to fit him in to so many things.
     
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    Skip Bayless has always been a b****. Use to be so in love with Steph but has started to turn on him to fit his narrative. He is also married to a tranny.
     
  13. Reeko

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    Where'd u hear this?
     
  14. EightDoobies

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    Good Lord... They seriously make it seem like Harden has All-stars on his team.
     
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    I hate Michelle Beadle so much.
     
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    If I was a lesbian, I'd do her!
     
  17. DonKnock

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    I've actually heard speculation about that too. Nothing confirmed a far as I know though.
     
  18. KlutchQT

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    LMAO @ this turning into an indictment on Ernestine
     
  19. LosPollosHermanos

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    I'm too busy and cool to have a twitter, but if you guys do please tweet that b*tch.

    Also, god...hear me out...I don't ask for much but please crown James so Cari Champion and Beadle have to announce it. The look on their face, the slight cough and aspiration while being symbolically bukakked by James would be a full circle ending.
     
  20. wekko368

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    Why would you rather have Manu? He's having the worst year of his career while Lou Williams is having one of his best.
     

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