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Rape focuses critical attention on 'sanctuary' states

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  1. RocketsLegend

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    The rape of a 14-year-old girl last week in a boys’ bathroom of a Maryland high school, for which two immigrants have been charged, has fueled opposition to officials making the state a sanctuary for illegal immigrants.
    One suspect in last Thursday’s attack is 17; the other is 18. Both were enrolled as freshman because of their weak English language skills. The two suspects, who were enrolled in Rockville’s Montgomery High School, are from Central America.
    Four days after the rape, Maryland’s House of Delegates passed legislation to join states like California in becoming a “sanctuary state,” affording illegal criminal aliens additional protections and making it more difficult to deport them or ask about immigration status.
    That action has infuriated Maryland officials.

    “I am outraged by the brutal and violent rape of a 14-year-old girl in a Rockville public school,” Republican Gov. Larry Hogan said in a statement Tuesday. “The state of Maryland is calling on Montgomery County to immediately and fully cooperate with all federal authorities during the investigation of this heinous crime. The public has a right to know how something this tragic and unacceptable was allowed to transpire in a public school.”
    The legislation that passed Monday will make Maryland a sanctuary for illegal alien criminals, further endanger its citizens and interfere with state and local law enforcement’s ability to cooperate with federal law enforcement, the governor said.
    To no one’s surprise the attack has triggered widespread revulsion outside of Maryland.
    "The reason the president has made it such a priority to crack down on illegal immigration is because of cases like this," White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Tuesday.
    Montgomery County, where the alleged rape took place, is on a list released this week by U.S. Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) of “Jurisdictions that have enacted policies which limit cooperation with ICE.”
    “When law enforcement agencies fail to honor immigration detainers and release serious criminal offenders, it undermines ICE’s ability to protect the public safety and carry out its mission,” said Acting ICE Director Thomas Homan.
    One suspect, Henry E. Sanchez, 18, of Guatemala had been stopped by a Border Patrol agent in August 2016 in Rio Valley Grande, Texas, when he entered the country illegally from Mexico. Sanchez was ordered to appear before an immigration judge, but the hearing had not yet been scheduled.
    It was not immediately clear if the other suspect, Jose O. Montano, 17, from El Salvador, was in the county illegally but county executive Ike Leggett told local press both had outstanding ICE orders.
    Both were charged with first-degree rape and two counts of first-degree sexual offense. Charging documents allege that the pair dragged their female classmate into a boy’s bathroom last Thursday at 9 a.m., where they allegedly raped and sodomized her and forced her to perform oral sex.
    Detectives from the Montgomery County Police Department Special Victims Investigations Division arrested Montano and Sanchez after school officials reported the incident. A forensic team recovered blood and male fluids from the bathroom, court records show.
    ICE has since lodged an immigration detainer against Sanchez, so ICE can take custody of him when he is released, but it is unclear whether local law enforcement will comply.
    ICE did not release information on Montano.
    Both Montano and Sanchez will be tried as adults and could receive a life sentence. The judge who oversaw their bond hearing refused to release them on bail, because the students are “dangerous and flight risks.”
    “There are pockets of aliens who move to sanctuary cities because they know they will be treated differently there,” said Claude Arnold, a former U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations.
    “Most sanctuary cities limit the way in which local law enforcement can cooperate with ICE, or order them not to cooperate at all. So in a case like this, local law enforcement might not be able to assist ICE, adding insult to injury,” Arnold said.
    Officials in Montgomery County have been pushing to make the area a sanctuary for immigrants.
    Last month, Rockville City Council Member Julie Palakovich Carr, a Democrat, introduced an ordinance to make Rockville a sanctuary city.
    Montgomery County Executive Ike Leggett, a Democrat, in backing the proposal, said, "Understanding, tolerance, and respect are hallmarks of the Montgomery County way. Social justice for all is what we strive to achieve ..."

    Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Immigration Studies, said the county is already uncooperative with ICE when it comes to illegal immigrants like Sanchez.
    “Montgomery County is not the worst, but it’s pretty bad,” said Vaughan. “When Northern Virginia cracked down around 2005 from 2011, many illegals moved to Montgomery County, where they knew they would be treated more leniently.”

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    Democrats still defending sanctuary cities is the reason why their party is dying. They are so out of touch with the people.
     
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    Yawn. And bigots use someone else's tragedy to push their bigotry. No one actually believes you care about the family or their community.
     
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    Trumpanzees should be more concerned with being raped by the Republican health care law. Hurry up and die will become your Obamacare replacement. Congrats!

    Just hope Faux News is there to cover how many die because they don't have health insurance. One by one, cover them all.
     
  5. durvasa

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    Are there any statistics showing immigrants or undocumented immigrants being more likely to commit violent crimes than the average non-immigrant? I'd like to see how that breaks down.
     
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    Me too. Hopefully the government starts allowing people to get the data. Like knowing the nationalities of criminals and prisoners or legal status of people in jail.
     
  7. RocketsLegend

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    Why am I not surprised with this response. Doesn't fit your narrative so deflect, deflect and deflect
     
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    That's beside the point. Why import crime? Why give criminals a safe haven?
     
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    What narrative? It seems you are the one with the narrative and using tragedy to push it.
     
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    How is it beside the point? If they are statistically less likely to commit violent crime, then arguing against sanctuary cities on the basis of violent crime doesn't make sense to me.
     
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    You should ask the GOP. It was their loose labor laws and lack of willingness to go after employers that caused illegal immigration. It was their drug policies that caused Mexico to destabilize and the illegal drug trade that causes crime.

    You should be looking in the mirror.
     
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    Are you saying we don't have any idea or that what we know doesn't match some recent notion that illegals are committing a disproportional amount of crime?
     
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    I'm going to ask Dems that run sanctuary cities.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    Of course sweetheart. You don't actually want to solve crime, you just want to illegals out.
     
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    You prevent crimes by fighting poverty. One way to fight poverty is to stop allowing wages to go down. You know what causes wages to go down?
     
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    Loose labor laws? Not making employers use a program like e-verify? Remind whose policies those are.

    Funny how labor has been steadily weakened in the South and we get a bunch of illegals.... Whose in charge of the states in the South?
     
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    It was Obama's immigration plan that would've have protected illegals from deportation and as far as I know here in Texas businesses that hire illegals will face a hefty fine.
     
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    Drug prohibition is the issue, not illegal immigrants if you care about crime. It was right wing labor policies that led to the rise of illegal immigration and drug prohibition made Cartels powerful.

    Giving amnesty to all illegals would very slightly raise wages since they would be making minimum wage. And remember.... it's the business that want lower wages and the consumers want lower prices.

    Keep it coming.... you can't possibly win since you can't see the forest through the trees. Stop supporting drug prohibition and support programs like e-verify.
     
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    What about the right leaning cops in all these cities that explcitly state that sanctuary cities provides an environment of trust where undocumented migrants don't scatter like roaches when local PD show up this allowing them to interact with them and this allowing them to obtain intelligence.

    Is it a coincidence that ever Uber conservative sheriff from redneck Hicksville is ADAMENT that sanctuary cities are devistating but PDs that actually have experience with sanctuary cities agree they are a necessity?
     
  20. Astrodome

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    Wrong thread. Any thoughts on what OP posted or are you just here to change the subject and call people names?
     

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