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Beverley having #1 Rebounding Year EVER for player 6'1" or shorter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Mar 2, 2017.

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  1. bigred77

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    If the rockets win it all, will Bev look right in the camera and say "This one's for you Russ" and then wink.

    Westbrook would spontaneously combust after that right? Like on the spot?
     
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    Westbrook is not known for his stellar defense.
     
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    Beverley heart is ruthless...When he gets fired up...I get amp'd up...
     
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  4. heypartner

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    Avery is 6'2" and has never had a better year that Beverley. Bev's career is higher than Avery. Bev is statistical the better Rebounder by far. Why are you bringing up Avery.

    Only this year Avery getting more per game, but not by much...and he currently doesn't even qualify for the leaderboard. He has 4 more mpg to lead Bev this year. They are tied on per 36. Bev might actually catch him on RPG by the end of the season

    He's in my list. I guess it rounded up to 6.7.

    Well, I posed it as a question. Only the first chart is per 36. The second two are RPG....and the 50 year one includes past 6'2 players. And we are comparing probably over 1.,000 combined player years...and no one has a higher per 36 year...pretty damn impressive.

    For RPG: How about #2 year over the last 45 years. Only Rondo beats him in 45 years. :cool:

    No one hates per 36 more than me. But those guys in the '50 and '60s were getting 10 more mpg than Beverley and most Rondo years. When the comparison is between players spanning decades, then I sometimes use it, just to put that >40 mpg ppl into perspective. Bev is getting 30 mpg. It's a legit multi-decade comparison in my opinion. It's almost like how you can't compare Strikeouts or Shutouts anymore in baseball. Pitchers aren't allowed to go over 100 pitches anymore, like NBA players aren't allowed to play 40mpg anymore.

    fair enough.
     
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  5. Deuce

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  6. kevC

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    You're right. Greatest rebounding season by player shorter than 6'2"

    Code:
                                                                                                                                                                        
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Rk               Player   Ht  Season Age  Tm  Lg TRB%  G GS   MP  FG  FGA  2P  2PA  3P 3PA  FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  2P%  3P% eFG%  FT%  TS%
1      Patrick Beverley  6-1 2016-17  28 HOU NBA 10.6 48 48 1463 168  391  88  183  80 208  41  50  65 216 281 214  76  19  70 160  457 .430 .481 .385 .532 .820 .553
2           Rajon Rondo  6-1 2016-17  30 CHI NBA 10.5 51 29 1338 151  392 125  307  26  85  23  39  46 212 258 331  71   9 120 100  351 .385 .407 .306 .418 .590 .429
3           Rajon Rondo  6-1 2014-15  28 TOT NBA 10.1 68 68 2018 275  645 248  559  27  86  31  78  73 300 373 538  91   7 210 153  608 .426 .444 .314 .447 .397 .448
4          Terry Rozier  6-2 2016-17  22 BOS NBA  9.7 56  0 1005 117  314  74  186  43 128  41  53  30 144 174  98  32  10  34  56  318 .373 .398 .336 .441 .774 .471
5           Rajon Rondo  6-1 2008-09  22 BOS NBA  9.6 80 80 2642 383  759 368  711  15  48 172 268 100 316 416 659 149  11 209 193  953 .505 .518 .313 .514 .642 .543
6           Rajon Rondo  6-1 2006-07  20 BOS NBA  9.5 78 25 1831 188  450 182  421   6  29 119 184  74 218 292 297 128   8 137 181  501 .418 .432 .207 .424 .647 .472
7           Rajon Rondo  6-1 2015-16  29 SAC NBA  9.3 72 72 2537 355  782 293  612  62 170  87 150  77 358 435 839 141  10 278 175  859 .454 .479 .365 .494 .580 .506
8        Charles Dudley  6-2 1975-76  25 GSW NBA  8.9    82 1456 182  345 182          345 157 245 112 157 269 239  77       2 170  521 .528      .528 .528 .641 .575
9        Charles Dudley  6-2 1976-77  26 GSW NBA  8.9    79 1682 220  421 220          421 129 203 119 177 296 347  67       6 169  569 .523      .523 .523 .635 .557
10       Charles Dudley  6-2 1977-78  27 GSW NBA  8.8    78 1660 127  249 127          249 138 195  86 201 287 409  68   2 163 181  392 .510      .510 .510 .708 .585
    http://bkref.com/tiny/E47Sb
     
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    Love him ...
     
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  8. heypartner

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    Feigen reads this BBS.



    Should I tweet him a link to this thread?
     
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    Beverley must retire a Rocket or we riot
     
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    Could I impose on you to put Fat Lever's #'s up there too? Please.
     
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    Code:
                                                                                                                                                
Season      Age  Tm  Lg Pos   G    MP  PER  TS% 3PAr  FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV%  USG%  OWS  DWS   WS   WS/48 OBPM DBPM  BPM VORP
1982-83      22 POR NBA  PG  81  2020 14.8 .477 .025 .268  4.7  7.8  6.2 28.2  3.6  0.4 17.1  16.1  1.7  2.6  4.4    .104  0.3  1.0  1.2  1.7
1983-84      23 POR NBA  PG  81  2010 15.8 .495 .021 .305  5.5  7.4  6.4 24.3  3.2  0.9 13.6  18.4  2.5  2.2  4.8    .114  0.9  0.5  1.5  1.8
1984-85      24 DEN NBA  PG  82  2559 16.7 .479 .024 .260  5.8 11.7  8.6 29.5  3.5  0.7 15.6  19.2  2.1  3.2  5.2    .098  1.0  1.4  2.3  2.8
1985-86      25 DEN NBA  PG  78  2616 15.7 .473 .036 .172  5.2 11.9  8.4 29.4  3.1  0.3 15.5  19.9  0.9  3.6  4.5    .082  0.4  1.5  2.0  2.6
1986-87      26 DEN NBA  PG  82  3054 20.8 .515 .067 .228  7.0 18.8 12.5 29.1  3.0  0.6 10.0  21.1  6.0  3.8  9.7    .153  3.6  2.0  5.6  5.9
1987-88      27 DEN NBA  SG  82  3061 20.5 .516 .042 .232  6.7 16.5 11.4 28.1  3.3  0.4 10.8  21.4  5.5  4.9 10.4    .163  3.3  2.8  6.1  6.2
1988-89      28 DEN NBA  SG  71  2745 20.6 .513 .054 .282  6.7 18.9 12.4 26.9  3.2  0.4 10.3  21.3  5.1  4.2  9.2    .161  3.2  2.5  5.7  5.3
1989-90      29 DEN NBA  SG  79  2832 19.9 .504 .068 .263  8.0 19.8 13.6 24.8  2.7  0.3  9.8  21.9  4.6  4.2  8.8    .149  2.9  2.7  5.6  5.4
1990-91      30 DAL NBA  SG   4    86 13.5 .497 .130 .609  4.0 15.9  9.9 19.5  3.6  2.2 25.5  20.2 -0.1  0.1  0.0    .014 -3.9  2.3 -1.6  0.0
1991-92      31 DAL NBA  SG  31   884 14.9 .452 .149 .229  6.5 13.1  9.7 19.0  2.6  0.8  8.6  20.4  0.5  0.8  1.3    .070  0.3  0.9  1.2  0.7
1993-94      33 DAL NBA  PG  81  1947 13.2 .462 .133 .176  4.5 12.5  8.2 16.6  4.1  0.5 12.8  15.0  0.7  2.1  2.9    .070 -1.2  1.6  0.4  1.2
Career                  NBA 752 23814 17.8 .496 .055 .243  6.1 14.5 10.1 26.4  3.2  0.5 12.3  19.7 29.4 31.7 61.2    .123  1.8  1.8  3.6 33.7
                                                                                                                                             
6 seasons       DEN     NBA 474 16867 19.1 .502 .050 .240  6.6 16.4 11.2 28.0  3.1  0.4 11.8  20.9 24.1 23.8 47.9    .136  2.5  2.2  4.6 28.3
2 seasons       POR     NBA 162  4030 15.3 .487 .023 .288  5.1  7.6  6.3 26.2  3.4  0.7 15.2  17.3  4.3  4.9  9.2    .109  0.6  0.8  1.4  3.4
3 seasons       DAL     NBA 116  2917 13.7 .459 .139 .207  5.1 12.7  8.7 17.4  3.7  0.7 11.7  16.8  1.1  3.1  4.2    .069 -0.8  1.4  0.6  1.9
    Fat Lever is 10.1 TRB% for his career and 13.6% at his peak. He's listed at 6'3" so wasn't on the initial list.
     
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    Thanks, Kev.
     
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    Looks like SOMEbody is lurking on ClutchFans.

    Feigen is pretty sturdy, though. Could be ABS. Knows too much about basketball to be JopatHolic
     
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    Man, the font and background colors makes that unreadable in Clutchfans Dark Theme. thx though. That's pretty cool.

    However, I don't think TRB% is a stat that can be run very far back into history. Doesn't it require more complete boxscores than bbref does not have back to the 50s?
     
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    Yeah but in the second table it specifically includes 6'2 players such as Jerry West.
     
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  17. heypartner

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    Avery Bradley doesn't currently qualify for the rebounding leaderboard, so bbref filtered him out of the results....not me.

    fwiw: Even if Bradley did qualify, Bev is still beating him this year in per36
     
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    Ridiculously underpaid IMO
     
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  19. kevC

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    It goes back to 1970-71 when they started tracking team rebounds.
     
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