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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

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    That wasn't Rick's decision. McNair didn't want anything to do with Carr.
     
  2. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    I'm not getting on them for not drafting Carr I get why that happened, however, the point isn't that they should have taken carr over xsf it's that they shouldn't have taken xsf at all.

    The guy they loved apparently was jimmy g so they should have taken him. Or any other number of players. Xsf is just one pick but he's part of a pattern of poor evaluations. They just miss too much.
     
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  3. Nick

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    Or they hit just enough to not be able to pull any sort of trigger.

    They draft Duane Brown. They draft Brian Cushing (who did win rookie of the year). They draft Kareem Jackson who is a legitimate starting CB. They draft JJ Watt. They draft Deandre Hopkins. They draft Whitney Merciless.

    They've seen CJF emerge this year as a legitimate threat. They see Bouye emerge as a former UFA.

    By no means am I condoning the front office's mis-haps or calling for more of the same... just saying that its easy to overlook the meaningful early round success that they've had, when you constantly focus on the misses that get magnified in hindsight.

    I'm sure the ownership group every week sees key/vital starters on both sides of the ball that were drafted/developed by this front office, and uses that as their metric to gauge the success of their talent evaluation.
     
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  4. justtxyank

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    Yes they hit on their first round picks and they have had some talent in late rounds and udfa stick. And then they have to pay them big dollars or pay free agents big dollars or use a first round pick to replace them because we can't fill out the team from rounds 2-4 effectively.

    They've been good in free agency as well so I'm not saying they are wholly incompetent
     
  5. Nick

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    Yes. Agreed.

    Winning teams hit on rounds 2-4, and that leads to viable depth and cheaper starters.

    The Texans not only miss on those picks... sometimes they downright whiff altogether to the point where they get nothing salvageable. Its almost harder to not just get random starters from year to year by accident from those rounds.

    I'm just trying to find a semblance of logic as to why certain members of the braintrust are kept around... if its only to make that first round pick, so be it.
     
  6. Mr.Scarface

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    2nd round picks: McKinney, X-SA, Nick Martin
    3rd: Braxton,CJ, Strong

    They missed on 2nd and 3rds under Kubiak....in basically 2 drafts.
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    It's only "not fair" to the rest of the team if there is a better QB option, I'm not sold that there is.
     
  8. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.
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    Its like the team is scared of succeeding. So scared to take a chance they'll just turtle it and get whatever comes their way.

    Godsey must go. This offense has too much stank on it to come back next week with all the same people and all the same plays.

    Brock, Christ on ice....how could savage be worse? 4 ints? Missing guys by 12 yards instead of 10? Not only is he not showing improvement...whatever flashes we saw early in the year and preseason are gone. He's trending down.
     
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  9. nigma2000

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    God this team is dumb as hell, from management, to coaching, and to the players. It's brutal watching them every week. If they play a great game like last week they find a way to lose or their luck is against them or they just stink up the joint like today.

    Since Bill O' Brien has been coach here, he has gone through 7 QBs in three seasons, that's unheard of. After all that we still have not found our QB. This is on him and Rick. One of them has to go next year.

    The damage is only going to get worse now with this 2 game losing streak and we might end up losing the division.
     
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  10. mick fry

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    How does fair catching on the 5 yd line happen on your watch?
     
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    Savage looked better than Brock in the preseason and Brock is currently looking like the worse QB in the NFL. Brock is probably the worse QB to ever play for this organization. Owe it to the team to go another route at this point.
     
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  12. rimbaud

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    The winless Browns have scored more points this year (playing one more game but whatever).

    BOB is an offensive coach. The four biggest new free agent signings were offensive players. The first four picks in the draft were offensive players. Now they score about 4 points per game fewer than last year. When the offense was well below average. 19th scoring offense to 29th.

    Clearly the defense is the issue, right?
     
  13. deb4rockets

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    Just like our typical choices of running straight ahead, a screen pass or a 2 yard pass play on 3rd and 18.
     
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  14. Two Sandwiches

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    I think O'Brien is a great leader of men. I think he's an above average game planner and strategist.

    But he is probably a bottom three coach when it comes to in game decisions and management. He's just terrible at that.

    Whether that means he'll only ever have success as a coordinator (probably), or that he just needs to delegate those decisions to someone else (Crennel...I like this idea), is someone else's decision to make.
     
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  15. rezdawg

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    And to be honest, I don't think our OLine is NEARLY as bad as people make them out to be...Brock has had plenty of nice pockets that have resulted in **** throws. The offense starts with him...and the results speak for themselves.

    Savage needs to get a shot.
     
  16. Two Sandwiches

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    This season feels a bit like the momentum when Keenum got his first shot. Keenum should have had more games that season, just like Savage should have been allowed to start a good six games this year....or last.
     
  17. zeeshan2

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    You can see what they look like if you saw a Raider game. Spoiler alert:both look fantastic
     
  18. awc713

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    Right. I meant how the Texans would look with them in the blue steel and liberty white.
     
  19. BMoney

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    At what point is O'Brien's vaunted system a culprit? It was taken that he is a QB guru because he coached Tom Brady in his prime!?
     
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  20. Cstyle42

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    Das Prescott could have been drafted lol
     

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