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Alex Bregman Call-Up Watch Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. HTOWNTAKEOVER

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    I bet if bregman was a cubs prospect he would already be up.


    theo>>>>>luhnow
     
  2. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Agree on your eval of my reasons. Just trying to think through their perspective and come up with something.

    Being "overly cautious" needs to come with something else. Does it mean, "we think an additional 2 weeks of AAA hitting will make him more confident before coming to the majors" ? Or "an additional 2 weeks of AAA will give us more perspective on his ability to adjust" ?

    Those just aren't logical to me. Being cautious with reason makes sense. But being cautious without actually having something to understand/evaluate with that caution makes me think it's something else.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Defending <a href="https://twitter.com/AstrosFuture">@AstrosFuture</a>, I also had 3 people in BR confirm that Bregman would be called up today. Apologies for the misinformation!</p>&mdash; Tigers in the Minors (@geauxMiLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/geauxMiLB/status/756520591914565632">July 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  4. Joe Joe

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    For me he should be up. I think Astros want Bregman to come up and feast on MLB pitching so that he is immediately effective. They don't want him to struggle, lose his confidence to the point, make changes to his approach that don't need to be made, and then be less effective than he should be in the short term (i.e. playoffs). I think Astros feel they are in a position of strength (i.e. they don't think Bregman is needed to make the playoffs) such that they can take their time developing him the way they perceive as the right way.
     
  5. The Beard

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    They certainly wouldn't keep him down worrying about him being able to play LF
     
  6. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Yeah, I just can't see them thinking that 2 more weeks will change how he approaches MLB pitching when he comes up.

    I guess I can see them maybe working on perception of how much time in general prospects need to spend in the minors...kind of thinking of the future. That would be wasted energy here as well.

    I should leave room for the possibility that they just don't have an outside perspective in the org. And people are seeing things illogically and just feeding their own reasoning, thinking it's correct. With no one there to say "wait...that doesn't make sense. This case is different."
     
  7. Nook

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    Yes.

    I think that point is being overlooked.

    Hader is still a nice prospect, but Phillips really hasn't developed like hoped and Santana is just kind of floating a long.
     
  8. cdain3

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    Especially if they had LF like the Astros. Minute maid is one of the easiest ball parks to play LF.
     
  9. Fyreball

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    It sounds like the decision to call up Tucker instead of Bregman might not have been planned until the last second? Perhaps something came up (i.e. a trade offer) that caused them to hold off on the call-up for a little bit?
     
  10. juicystream

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    Not true at all. Plays off the wall and that corner following the Crawford boxes is very difficult. What MMP does is minimize the need for range and arm in LF.

    Granted, playing in AAA isn't going to help bregman with those issues
     
  11. cardpire

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    Notice that the actual reporters never reported it. Kid tried to outscoop professionals and got burned.

    And now he will never have a lick of credibility ever again.

    Win some, lose some.
     
  12. LongTimeFan

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    I don't think they were ever related. In fact, IIRC the Astros said at the time that Reed being sent down did not have to do with Bregman.

    We have to clear a 40-man roster spot to move Alex up, so they would have to DFA someone before he would be promoted.
     
  13. leroy

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    Which, with players like Peacock and Chapman on the 40-man, is a pretty easy thing to do.
     
  14. Nick

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    Won't be two more weeks. He's either up right after the trade deadline, traded, or stashed away due to flat-out arrogance and cheapness (granted, I hope the last scenario is the least likely).

    Luhnow probably made a mistake going on the airwaves saying "he's ready" earlier this week... further illustrates the conundrum that him being down is for reasons other than his "development", but we'll never know what transpired or could have been on the cusp of transpiring (even after he's called up, they'll tout out a pre-made reason/excuse that this front office has been stellar at creating thus far).

    I know the Astros front office believe they're smarter than everybody else... but promoting/developing players is still very much an inexact science. Some guys hit right off the bat and stick (Pence, Correa)... some guys suck initially then just get it (Berkman, Springer)... some guys hit right off the bat and then suck (White, Tucker?)... and some guys just never get it/chronic AAAA players.

    Also, odds are Tucker will be in LF at some point (probably against a left-handed starter)... and we get to all see again what a poor LF really is.
     
  15. LongTimeFan

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    and knowing them they'll DFA Worth before those guys...
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A.J. Hinch discussing Alex Bregman. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> <a href="https://t.co/HQcWQuAcry">pic.twitter.com/HQcWQuAcry</a></p>&mdash; Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/756598637698945024">July 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  17. Nick

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    Clear that he's toeing the company line... nothing more/nothing less.

    I bet they're sick of getting questions about him, but they sort of brought it about themselves... especially when the GM is touting that "he's ready", yet being purposefully vague otherwise (which fully implies exploring all possible trades/moves prior to the deadline... what's 1 more week, right?).
     
  18. The Beard

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    Schwarber and Contreras say Hey
     
  19. juicystream

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    Schwarber played plenty of LF in the minors, and likely had additional work there in the offseasons, and ultimately, he is a terrible OFer.
     
  20. The Beard

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    Worse than Tucker?

    Contreras played catcher full time
     

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