Klay Thompson: I'm the best shooting guard in the NBA

http://thesportsquotient.com/nba/2016/5/27/i-get-it-but-james-harden-should-have-made-an

Read the passing section, watch the videos. Give those seasoned eyes a refresher. Harden is an excellent passer.

 

LMAO, Klay absolutely choked in last year's Finals and WCF against Harden (check out their match-up stat). He has one good game, everybody goes nuts, the dude is still shooting below 40% from the three because of how poorly he shot in the past 5 games.

Playoff performance? Harden has far higher PPG with better TS% than Klay in the playoffs. Delusional GSW homers w/o any facts as usual.

 

I can't believe people are seriously claiming that Klay can't create his own shot. If you genuinely believe that, you obviously haven't watched him play.

 

not accurate.

Harden handles the ball too much!

 

Curry can creat his own shot, Klay can't.

Curry scored 1.07 points per isolation attempt this season, a very good efficiency, Klay was only 0.80 in the same category, which is below average. Klay's ball-handling is still shaky, that's why he doesn't drive to the rim as much, and when he does he can't finish unless he draw fouls.

Most of Klay's points come assissted, even more so than Curry's, that's not because he's a better spot-up shooter than Curry is. Curry can mix it up, but Klay can't. He needs to find himself open at all times.

 

Has any player had that one elite skill that eclipses everything else in his game?

His handle, court vision, shot creating ability, finishing in and through traffic are all average, but that shooting. It's not just an equaliser, it's a demoraliser.

 

Harden made on average made 9.4 drives this season and scored 7.2 points on those drives (76.6%)

Klay made on average made 3.4 drives this season and scored 2.5 points on those drives (74.3%)

Clearly Harden is a better slasher, and being able to attack the rim is a huge part of creating your own offense. So, Klay sucks at ISO, can't drive to the rim and most of his points come assisted. Seems reasonable to conclude that he's not so good at creating his own shot (and others', for that matter)

 

Harden made on average 9.4 drives this season and scored 7.2 points on those drives (76.6%)

Klay made on average 3.4 drives this season and scored 2.5 points on those drives (74.3%)

Clearly Harden is a better slasher, and being able to attack the rim is a huge part of creating your own offense. So, Klay sucks at ISO, can't drive to the rim and most of his points come assisted. Seems reasonable to conclude that he's not very adept at creating his own shot (and others', for that matter)

 

He can. Apart from his catch and shoot game, he mostly feasts off broken plays we he can catch his defender wrong-footed.

The number of players the can beat to the rim or off the dribble is minimal and the looming threat of Steph Curry is too much for any team to commit more than a single player to.

Against a defense that is designed to stop him, I think he'd struggle...mightily.

Fair?

 

Klay is a skillful cutter, but I don't know if that is creating his own shot per se, you still depend on the passing ability of your peers to finish that play. As I said, Klay doesn't attack the rim that much because of his shaky handles, and even when he does, he scores less efficiently than Harden. His ISO efficiency is also below league average, and most of his points come assisted, even more than Curry's. All of this points to him being a good off-the-ball player, but not very adept at creating his own offense.

 

EXACTLY MY POINT !!

ISO ball = LOSER BALL !

DD

 

He takes high risk passes, and looks good when they connect, same as Jeremy Lin.

Contrast that with an elite passer like Chris Paul.....and you see why I don't want Harden handling the ball that much.

DD

 

He doesn't only make high risk passes, those weak side whip-pass on the perimeter is something only few players can do in this league, Harden, Lebron, etc. I've never seen WB make those kind of passes, and I'm not so sure about CP3 either. Those passes are bread-and-butter for 3 point-centric team such as ours.

KIRK GOLDSBERRY on Grantland wrote an article specifically focusing on this aspect of Harden's passing ability. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/james-hardens-holy-mountain-how-the-rocket-man-creates-3-pointers/

And why do you compare Harden with other legit PGs, Harden is an incredible passer for his position and that is what's important. I too think Harden should be lay off from playing the PG role, because it distracts from him being the most effective scorer on the court, but he is an exceptional passer for a 2-guard. Everybody in the league acknowledges that.

 

I agree, he needs to play off the ball more - that is my point.

DD

 

And its a stupid point, a very stupid one.

Taking the ball out of one of the best scorers / creators in the league and trying to turn him into JJ Redick type player, something he is completely ill-equipped to do, is borderline lunacy.

 

That creator won't follow you and your perception, Lars.

 

And how does that do for the team? Harden's laziness for team ball (ball watching, lacking defense and movement) has reportedly caused friction, complaints and is the major subject multiple player meetings.

Act as if harden is all success and is not a huge problem. Would he choose to do the best for the team? Or the easy way out for his own ass?

Klay is obviously not a problem, but huge contributor to success to any team, being so efficient, egoless, who always try hard and does the best for the team

 

Yet he set nba turnover record smh You try to hard to defender harden day after day

 

Ignore them. They see the results and stay course. Its a Harden fan boy club sort of thing. Real rockets fans know that watching a dude hold the ball for the half the play on offense (and then blaming the fact he doesn't have a playmaker ), ball watching on the defensive side, alienating his teammates isn't good for the franchise.

The guy above you Lars, doesn't believe in heart or chemistry because you can't "quantify them". That's the level of stupidity. Only typing this out so you don't waste your time.

 

Yeah, because he's the only player in the league that has to score 30 points for his team and at the same time playing the PG role. Do you even get the concept of possessions?