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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Yep, and he is a star ****er - instead of a builder.

    DD
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Yeah if only he would have BUILT up stars like Aaron Brooks, Chandler Parsons, and Donatas Motiejunas. Stupid Morey. Cheap a#$ LE$.

    Coulda had our own "Big 3" had Morey just developed his own players instead of kicking the can.
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Sounds right to me. Most talented team usually wins. Pop's, Kerr and Phil Jackson can all coach this Rockets' team simultaneously. They're still not beating GSW. It might be GSW in 6 instead of 3, but it's the same end result.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    "Builder" to you means pick a bunch of journeyman no hopers, call it an offseason and head to PF Chang's.



    Spoiler Alert - it doesn't work. Though Sam Hinkie is trying it over in Philly.


    Perhaps you could switch to them?
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    A star what?
     
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    saleem Contributing Member

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    Yep, Morey's weaknesses as a non-basketball guy are very evident, stats like 3 and D are what he hyper focuses on. Getting McHale wasn't the right move either, although he deserves credit for motivating them last year, and having the guts to go to put Harden on the bench, and go with the hot hand of Josh Smith. JB is too inexperienced at this job. I thought he would be be able to instill discipline, but I was wrong. His substitutions are quite poor. He has a long way to go.
     
  8. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Seriously, I'm with Mr. Clutch on this.

    LOL
     
  9. larsv8

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    Hint: it's a nine inch nails song
     
  10. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I guess he means star ****er

    Mauri kicks cans and then goes to the bars and drowns himself with shots of star ****er
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Maybe he could have drafted Kawhi instead of Morris? And yes, he should have kept Parsons and should keep DMo.

    Constant turnover leads to constant chaos - which is what you get with the Rockets under this leadership.

    You guys have never heard the term Star****er, before? It means he is consistently chasing stars in HOPES that one lands for us - it worked with Harden, but it failed with Howard, it is a flawed strategy to begin with...

    DD
     
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    Star starstarstarstarer
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I am surprised no one knows that term it is pretty common in the entertainment industry.

    DD
     
  14. J.R.

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    Starfu-cker, per UD:

    •A person who obsessed with and seeks out personal interaction with celebrities. The desired interaction is often, but not necessarily, sexual in nature.

    •someone who thinks some brief nearly non-existent connection with some great legend practically makes them a great legend too.

    •Woman or man who prides themselves on sleeping with someone of fame. In turn they believe that they too have the same self importance.

    •an alternative band from Portland, Oregon. Briefly changed their name to "Pyramiddd", but they're back to Star****er/STRFKR now.

    •A person or persons who uses popularity and celebrity acquaintance's to get further in business or social situations, sometimes without even having sex.

    •People who fly into space in magic bubbles and land on random planets. When they get to the planets they begin to have intimate relationships with the stars. Cussing at them, falling in love with them, having sex with them, spilling out the most intimate details of their heart to them. Soon all the stars know the secrets that most people save for their diaries and therapists. And these people, they are Star****ers.

    •1. The Main Idea of 'Star****ers, Inc.', by Trent Reznor, or Nine Inch Nails.
    2. Part of the song 'Professional Widow', By Tori Amos, most likely about Courtney Love.
    3. Courtney Love
    4. A groupie

    Guessing you aren't talking about the rock band? :confused::grin:
     
  15. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    DaDakota, how would you describe Pat Riley's approach in assembling a team?
    Or Danny Ainge, Donnie Nelson/Cuban, Mitch Kupchak?
     
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    You really are not good with the metaphors.

    First, the can kicking - your alternative to can kicking is to ... DO NOTHING and resign the same scrubs you currently have. Like what? How is that better? Kick the can down the road and hope that something better comes along, probably better than sitting in a ditch by the side of the road while semi trucks splash mud in your face .

    Second, if he's a starf'r, cause he chases stars, your preferred path is to do nothing and roll iwth scrubs...so that makes you a....

    scrub-f'r...?

    :confused:
     
  17. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    DD is obviously making a reference to Morey's insatiable desire to break into showbiz, evidenced by how he buddied-up to Batman Jones and weasels himself into plays. He's too busy taking headshots or playing ping pong instead of caring about good old fashioned TEAM BASKETBALL.
     
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    Star finder?
     
  19. Aruba77

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    there is some truth in the Starf#cker comments, but to be fair, there is a huge advantage to having star players that can carry teams deep into the playoffs. And truthfully can't remember a championship team in the last 20 years (other than Detroit) who won without a superstar player. That said, according to Morey, we have two on our roster. Why why aren't we winning? Why are we still far from contenders?

    The truth is that it's a balance of both. You have draft and build a foundation, and you have to add star power through trade and/or free agency. Morey necessarily skipped the draft part (because Les told him to rebuild without losing) and he's done an excellent job acquiring key players in free agency and trade (including our best two players). But it does still seem like something is missing and I wonder if ignoring the importance of draft from a foundation standpoint, is part of it. I honestly don't know because getting a star through the draft or through trade or through free agency still means getting a star, and that's what's important. But i wonder if there's something to drafting players, developing them in a system with consistent coaching, and then going to war with your guys instead of a team largely composed of transients.

    Morey getting harden via trade is certainly an argument for the success you can have without the draft. But our inability to get over the top last year, as well as lots of poor playoff finishes, and a terrible year this year, as well as a look around the league at the real contenders, is certainly an argument for prioritizing the draft.
     
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  20. tksense

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    He doesn't know how to draft as well as the basketball guys. Morey is too consumed by his buy low fetish, his method is to collect undervalued assets and let's roll.

    Ty just didn't work out? Dorsey just didn't work out? Or royce white just didn't work out? There is a reason players are shunned and undervalued around the league. In this case, Morey isn't just buying on the low, Morey ends up overpaying for worthless asset - DUE TO HIS LACK OF team building acumen based on BASKETBALL FUNDAMENTALS, including team chemistry, player attributes, player attitudes and characters which affect chemistry etc.

    You can pat yourself and say it "just" didn't work out, but worth a try...

    But the superior GM can interpret the results ahead, and decide against "trying" it out... That's called INSIGHTS. Morey has much less basketball insights than the Spurs group and the dubs ppl and especially Jerry West. Dubs owner know West is the best guy, so he shoot for the best and even gave him ownership offer I think. Insights go a long way, and it did here for the dubs.

    They know what they need and focus on specific kinds of players to go after, so they draft for attributes and "fit"... Rookie contracts are the cheapest and Morey knows that. However, Morey doesn't have the basketball insights to judge players by their attributes and fit. He only goes after high potential or low risk high reward stuffs. That's why he is still in middle ranks of GM.
     
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