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When Cruz Makes His Move, Watch Out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Rashmon

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  2. JuanValdez

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    Good PR move for Cruz to advocate for Fiorina. But, I think I can rule out gender discrimination as the motivation for ABC to not invite her. They have more to gain from including a woman. I think they want to stick to the formula they set for qualification for the appearance of impartiality. Why jump to some kind of sexism without some specific indication?
     
  3. MojoMan

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    Because of the Democrat's "War on women" lie. Having Carly Fiorina up on stage is a searing reminder to everyone watching what a bold-faced lie all of that is. And ABC is in the tank for the Democrats, make no mistake about it.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    " Because of the Democrat's war on women?" So laughable...

    Maybe these agreed upon rules don't make sense to the Fiorina camp now.

    But if anyone is having a "war on women", or perhaps more precisely, a 'war on this particular woman", it is the Republican voting base, as Firino has what, 2% polling for her?
     
  5. B-Bob

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    I'm sorry. I know you're trying to deflect from other Cruz issues right now, but this line of argument makes no logical sense.

    Why is having a far right-wing female candidate, (polling incredibly poorly with the GOP base, for what that's worth), in any way a refutation of a criticism of party talking points, as long as she advocates the same talking points? (In fact, she speaks some of them, a la the fraudulent allegations against planned parenthood, with uncommon vehemence.) Her gender is not meaningful when it comes to policy.

    I think you want her gender, and her very temporary candidacy, to wipe away the criticism against the GOP.

    Voters need deeds or even words. But not just a candidate's junk.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I know people disliked Cruz in college but how dare they insult Les Mis? <a href="https://t.co/FC9WUAomcR" title="http://bit.ly/20er8aU">bit.ly/20er8aU</a> <a href="https://t.co/P2QZWyAzzr" title="http://twitter.com/elisefoley/status/695655358061219840/photo/1">pic.twitter.com/P2QZWyAzzr</a></p>&mdash; Elise Foley (@elisefoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/elisefoley/status/695655358061219840" data-datetime="2016-02-05T17:08:56+00:00">February 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    Truth. I couldn't possibly improve on this, B-Bob.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Cruz was/is a fan of Broadway musicals... why am I not surprised.

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  9. justtxyank

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    Seems like the only people who like Cruz are people who either make money off of him or don't really know him
     
  10. bnb

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    I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice???
     
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    I still don't find this conspiracy theory very credible. I doubt anyone changes their impressions of Republican attitudes about women's rights just because there is a woman up on stage. The only people who would take it as evidence are those who already agree and identify with those Republican attitudes and are looking for confirmation. Having a black candidate at the Republican debates hasn't blunted any criticism of racism plaguing the party.
     
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    Since her playmates dropped out, they either need to bump her to the main stage or drop some others to the kiddie table. Second option might be more fun.
     
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    No one needs to change their impressions, as not many other than the usual knee-jerk Democrat leftists believe this drivel anyway. What is helpful is the reminder of how FOS those people are, which Carly Fiorina helpfully provides.

    Criticism of racism? From who? From a group of people that voted to elect a president because of the color of his skin? LOL. Clearly, the Democrats are shouldering their own perceptions of racism. However, in the case of the Democrats, there is actually a legitimate reason to warrant those perceptions.
     
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    You want to know who's really biased against women like Carly Fiorina?

    Misogynistic woman hater Carly Fiorina - who abandoned her Iowa Victory Party and all of its guests due to nonexistent snowstorms:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/CarlyFiorina">@CarlyFiorina</a> no show at her party as <a href="https://twitter.com/BernieSanders">@BernieSanders</a> on the tv <a href="https://twitter.com/WHOhd">@WHOhd</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/iacaucus?src=hash">#iacaucus</a> <a href="https://t.co/hmi6wZK4Pw">pic.twitter.com/hmi6wZK4Pw</a></p>&mdash; Roger Riley (@rogerriley) <a href="https://twitter.com/rogerriley/status/694383994264272896">February 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    (this is a real photo from this week, lmfao).

    How are women like Carly Fiorina ever supposed to get ahead, when hypocritical haters like Carly Fiorina keep holding them down!
     
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    When everybody calls you a scumbag, they're not just blowing hot air. Waiting for MojoMan et al to chime in and blame CNN---especially when CNN never aired anything indicative of what the Cruz campaign is alluding to. People support those most like themselves I guess. "Christian values" my ass to him and his supporters.

    Ben Carson Campaign Releases Tape of Ted Cruz Worker Spreading Rumors



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  16. Outlier

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    These voicemail messages sound like one big hoax in an attempt to try to take a candidate down.
     
  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    How is a hoax when the perpetrator has admitted to doing it---apologizing for receiving misinformation as a justification? How naive are you :confused:
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Fiorina finished 7th in Iowa and is polling at 2% nationally. Somehow you have turned the choices of Republican voters into a Democratic conspiracy theory. LOL Jesus.
     
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    How naive are you to readily accept information at face value and accept it because it goes along with your bias?
     
  20. Harrisment

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    Because facts? :confused:
     

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