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Racial Hysteria Triumphs on Campus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. MojoMan

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    So now they are going after quotes from Martin Luther King posted around campus, because they are not inclusive enough. You really, truly cannot make this stuff up.
    They apparently need trigger warnings now before hearing quotes from Martin Luther King. So it is back to their 'safe space', where they do not have to be confronted with this sort of racist and intolerant rhetoric (according to them).
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    This is the atmosphere that Obama has allowed to foster. As the first bi-racial President, he was supposed to be a uniter, but he's been anything but.
     
  3. Falcons Talon

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    Paging Idris Elba. Paging Idris Elba.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Some people are odd, I have no idea what Obama or Idris Elba has to do with this.
     
  5. Falcons Talon

    Falcons Talon Contributing Member

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    Diversity JayGoogle....diversity.

    I'm just calling a spade a spade.
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    Idris Elba's speech was about diversity and representation in media.

    This is entirely something else, you realize that yes?
     
  7. Falcons Talon

    Falcons Talon Contributing Member

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    Pick and choose much?

    So diversity in the entertainment industry is more important than representing diversity in an institution of higher learning? Diversity is diversity.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    Huh? I'm still confused as to what Idris Elba has to do with this and why you brought him up in this thread. My only guess is that you didn't listen to his speech so you have 0 idea what it was about and are blindly trying to apply it here.

    This article is about some students apparently not understanding a MLK quote and has nothing to do with the depictions of minorities and their representation in media.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Such a great Fox News hysteria. My parents, Fox watchers, are always on about this and asking me about the campus in which I work. They are shocked to learn that no, my (very diverse) campus, is not, in fact, coming unhinged due to the scheming of dark-skinned peoples, as Fox & Friends would have them believe.

    It's the perfect storm for the political aims of the Fox propaganda machine: inflame the racial fears of whites and then the hatred of intellectual pursuits in general, all in the same tidy story.

    And their work is going quite well now with their target audiences. See the stunning result: Trump, Donald.
     
  10. Falcons Talon

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    Sorry. This topic is no fun anymore.

    Just a bunch of whining babies...the lot of them.
     
  11. MojoMan

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    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
    -Martin Luther King​

    What these students are mad about is that what they are advocating is directly the opposite of what MLK so brilliantly envisioned in his famous quote above. We have seen these people establish "black only" safe spaces at the University of Missouri, which is an act of racist segregationism if ever there was one. What they want is to promote and protect racial divisiveness, in no small part because of the special protections and rights they want to claim for themselves under the auspices of 'Political Correctness'.

    So here we see the the PC crowd opposing some of the most racially harmonious speech ever uttered, because that would undermine their claim to special privileges based on their skin color.
     
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    I'm confused too. I think she has an amazing voice (my wife plays the Wicked CD in the car sometimes). I had no idea she was a racist.
     
  13. bongman

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    Just.. "Let it go".. :p
     
  14. Northside Storm

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    You know, what's even funnier to me is people who claim to worship the words of historical figures without paying any heed to their ideas.

    If America had listened to MLK rather than just blindly plastering select quotes of his, there'd have been reparations paid decades ago, and a hell of a lot less systematic racism. There'd have been less war, and less exploitation of the working class.

    People talk as if it's the students who have sanitized MLK by pointing out his quote doesn't deal with gender or sexuality--I wonder if they ever question what MLK actually said, and how the nation they live in is worse off because it sanitized those things they didn't want to hear from him?

    "We are coming to Washington to get our check."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business...r-king-makes-the-case-for-reparations/372696/

    talk about a societal *safe space* *insert obligatory disgust noises here*
     
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    Do you always debate this illogically? :confused:

    The students explicitly said they wanted to add considerations of gender, something topical that MLK didn't deal with. Everything else you have just said is probably the worst strawman I have ever seen on this forum (that's saying something).
     
  16. Cohete Rojo

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    Reparations? Is that what you think this is about?

    Perhaps my mothers side of the family should petition the British for reparations for having been violently removed of all their possessions and land while settled in Canada.
     
  17. Northside Storm

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    It's about ending systematic racism at its root and the steps needed to truly get there.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
    That's what MLK truly fought for. Acknowledging anything less is a whitewashing America has perpetuated on itself for decades that is infinitely more harmful than the symbolic recasting of one of his quotes for gender considerations.

    The students might remove MLK's quotes. America has ignored his true ideas while lionizing the concept of what people want him to be.

    And no, it's not just reparations:

    'We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.' - MLK

    'One day we must ask the question, "Why are there forty million poor people in America?" ... When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy.' - MLK

    'I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic... [Capitalism] started out with a noble and high motive... but like most human systems it fell victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has out-lived its usefulness.' - MLK

    -MLK

    ...Canada should pay significantly for taking land and enforcing residential schools, and if the previous administration had invested more in 21st century human capital and not the 20th century ruins of a petro-tributary state, the country probably would have been able to afford it.
     
  18. Falcons Talon

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    Reparations? LOL..This thread got fun again.

    I want me some reparations from Hernan Cortez and the empire of Spain!
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Was the United States government responsible for those transgressions you mentioned? Why would the Federal government be responsible for reparations in your asinine comparison?

    Systematic state sponsored racism targeted towards African Americans THEORETICALLY ended 50 years ago. That isn't even one complete human generation. It's perfectly reasonable to ask the federal government that was responsible for state sponsored racism that only THEORETICALLY ended less than one human lifespan ago for reparations. Any other context similar to those variables being true would be reasonable grounds for reparations; eg, Japanese internment camps or transgressions against Native Americans(in these cases reparations have been provided to some extent). These stupid analogies that are in no way similar to the variables mentioned aren't grounds for reparation from the United States Federal government.
     
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  20. Falcons Talon

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    REPARATIONS!!!!!!

    Damn Boy!
    [​IMG]
     
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