<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U.S. military looking into whether U.S. warplane was responsible for hospital deaths in Afghanistan, official says. <a href="http://t.co/jwVLrtXybv">http://t.co/jwVLrtXybv</a></p>— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) <a href="https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/650295718197002240">October 3, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Latest Kunduz casualty figures: 9 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSF?src=hash">#MSF</a> staff killed, unknown number of patients. 37 seriously wounded, inc. 19 MSF staff. Numbers could rise</p>— Doctors w/o Borders (@MSF_USA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MSF_USA/status/650263269459017728">October 3, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bombing continued for 30+ minutes after <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSF?src=hash">#MSF</a> informed US, Afghan military officials that Kunduz hospital was hit. <a href="http://t.co/m1j70KDgAV">http://t.co/m1j70KDgAV</a></p>— Doctors w/o Borders (@MSF_USA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MSF_USA/status/650260071608397824">October 3, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Photos of damage done by bombing of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSF?src=hash">#MSF</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kunduz?src=hash">#Kunduz</a> hospital + staff treating patients in parts still standing ©MSF <a href="http://t.co/hKOBIyLttI">pic.twitter.com/hKOBIyLttI</a></p>— Doctors w/o Borders (@MSF_USA) <a href="https://twitter.com/MSF_USA/status/650264208521752576">October 3, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Tragedy. I don't think this makes America safe. Not exactly how this help build an alliance over there.
Going to Afghanistan was a terrible mistake. I wish some of our military leaders studied some history.
I do not totally disagree with you. Doing anything in the Middle East, except supporting our one true ally in the area Israel, seems very futile. Get rid of one dictator and someone else even more crazy will fill the vacuum. I know you probably disagree with me on the Israel part of my comments above, but given what you said, how would you have handled the response for the 9/11 attacks?
Man, so sad. If you've ever been involved with doctors without borders, you know that they've been set up in specific locations where people are poor/vulnerable and there are no hospitals nearby. Think about the aftermath of this thing when typically you would rush people to the hospital or to doctors if they're still breathing. But all the doctors and all the medical facilities in close proximity were incinerated in this attack. This is a very predictable consequence of the actions of all the actors involved on all sides, but that doesn't make it less tragic. It's not shocking at all, but just so sad. Y'all need to go home and leave these types of mistakes to corrupt and/or extremist afghans. There is no "oops" when something like this happens, there's just a dramatic increase in people who want to kill you and me and your friend who's on duty and your other friend who works there. But when that story gets reported, it's not going to read "Man who's brother was incinerated in hospital and suffering severe PTSD attacks and kills foreign troops." It's going to read "terrorist attack on foreign interests, military promises to bring justice." Such is the disgusting and unavoidable nature of war. There is no war that achieves its objectives without creating more problems than it sought to solve. It's completely irrational human behavior and results in unnecessary bull**** like this or the wedding that was set ablaze a couple of weeks back with 130+ people in it. This is war, when you say you have to go to war or "protect our interests abroad" you are saying you accept that these things must happen to innocent people too. Don't be culpable, no citizens are safe forever from their foreign **** ups. Just go home.
For a "true ally" that receives billions in military aid annually, receives countless political & military support & is a major recipient of US military tech transfers, Israel sure does a whole lot of crap that's against US interests.
Mathloom doing his typical "the Americans are on Muslim holy soil" wah wah routine. And no, something like this is not unavoidable. It's inexcusable, and those who did it need to be made responsible.
I wholeheartedly agree. Get, out, of, the, ME. Keep investing in renewable energy sources and oil fields outside the M.E. Isolate the barbaric world instead of depending on them. Not all men were created equal. Not all men are capable of thinking autonomously - dictatorships work best in the M.E. where men can be governed and assigned roles. This is a place that prefers goat and animal sex over naked women. A place that prefers a woman locked away in head to toe garb taking orders because that's what "comes naturally to the female" and see's any sign of progress as a sign of disrespect. A place of deep contempt and hatred because of an inability to modernize. Until the Islamic world learns to progress, show accountability and an ability to integrate with the civilized world, we must completely cut ties with them.
Was someone asleep at the wheel here? How does this happen in the technologically advanced US warfare arena? Somebody in a command and control center is looking at the battlefield on a screen directing ground personnel and war planes to targets and they should be taking into account friendly locations like hospitals. So, how does a place that was pointed out to the US military at least 3 times in the last month as a friendly location get hit then? Maybe they need to work on that technology some more? And, I've probably been watching too much NCIS on TV. LOL
This is the best we're gonna get. Still 100 times better than whatever garbage the Saudis will come up with to justify the bombing of 130 people at wedding. Disgusting, why are we still supporting these people? <iframe width="480" height="321" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="true" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" id="nyt_video_player" title="New York Times Video - Embed Player" src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/video/players/offsite/index.html?videoId=100000003964255&playerType=embed"></iframe>
Actually the Saudis told the press that your military gave them the coordinates. They also claimed that it was a technological error. They also are investigating it internally. They will also provide a report compiled by graduates of the best American academic institutions which will come to the same conclusion: oops and we're sorry. It is not 100 times better. It's actually not different at all. An apology is worth zero. It's worth nothing at all when their are tools of justice AVAILABLE to apply. These investigations CAN be conducted in an independent court. The families can be compensated. The warfare can at least be monitored more shrewdly so that this happens less. The technical policies can be revised. The technology can be improved. I ask as sincerely as possible, is there no concern about the shrinking difference between two countries which are supposed to be polar opposites in terms of ethics? This was certainly not the case as recently as ten years ago. I am rooting for you guys to lead by example because I want to be able to say "see how they do it, we should do it like they do it." But it's becoming impossible. The differences more nuanced. The PR more and more identical. Imagine how this looks to some poor 16 year old kid in a village somewhere with ISIS whispering into his ears. We're losing those kids man. You guys have to put a stop to this. You have the power and the responsibility to do it, I don't understand why not.
Please help me understand where the line between blatant disregard for rules/regs and criminality is TL;DR: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/25/politics/afghanistan-kunduz-doctors-without-borders-hospital/ http://www.latimes.com/world/afghan...ntagon-hospital-airstrike-20160428-story.html
I know so many people that have volunteered their time to go, this is absolutely ****ing ridiculous. Sad how stories like these are repeatedly ignored. Particularly by our war hawkish members---regardless of what your views are those who ordered those strikes have to be held responsible.
out of curiosity , did anyone watch repeated intentional 5 hospitals raid bombing in Aleppo alone by Assad,Iran,Russia! [youtube]WV6j8UP7kAM[/youtube]
What was a mistake was how we went into Afghanistan - taking out the Taliban was a necessary step and probably the only legitimate military action the U.S. has taken in the region.