Mets @ Astros

[Castor27]

All game talk goes in here. Please do not give play by play. If you need play by play go to CBS, ESPN, or Yahoo.

Pitching Proabables:

7-28 Pedro Martinez (12-3, 2.79) vs. Ezequiel Astacio (1-4, 8.24) 7:05 on FSSW

7-29 Kris Benson (7-3, 3.14) vs. Wandy Rodriguez (5-4, 6.18) 7:05 on FSSW

7-30 Tom Glavine (7-8, 4.69) vs. Andy Pettitte (8-7, 2.73) 6:05 on KNWS

7-31 Kazuhisa Ishii (3-9, 4.96) vs. Roy Oswalt (14-8, 2.33) 1:05 on FSSW

[Groogrux]

LWWW

Beltran goes 0-16.

[The Real Shady]

LLWW

Beltran gets beaned in the jimmy.

[Uprising]

Boooo Birds to Beltran.

I'll be there Sunday, not Friday.

Go Astros!

LWWW

[Saint Louis]

I think it is time for the Stros to properly introduce Pedro to the Crawford Boxes.

[Fatty FatBastard]

I guess I'll be the first to do it.

WWWW

Ezekiel goes on a tear.

[Joshfast]

I have been looking forward to this for a long time but damn,the first 2 pitching matchups are pretty bad. 3 out of 4 would be great, but who cares -WWWW.

[DaDakota]

WLWW

DD

[Harrisment]

LWWW

Beltran strikes out 12 times, Willy T. bangs Anna Benson.

[NJRocket]

If we win tonight, we take 3 of 4....otherwise i see a split

[Lil Francis]

Time to kick some more ass WWWW

Beltran aka piece of s*** goes 0 for the series.

[NJRocket]

ok....WIN TONIGHT AND WE TIE FOR THE WC LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WASHINGTON JUST LOST AGAIN!!!!!

[Harrisment]

ok....WIN TONIGHT AND WE TIE FOR THE WC LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WASHINGTON JUST LOST AGAIN!!!!!


Thats enough motivation for me! I want to see Pedro crying by the 5th!!

[tim562]

Boooo Birds to Beltran.

I'll be there Sunday, not Friday.

Go Astros!

LWWW


Me too!!!! Sect 254, row 6, seat 11

[Puedlfor]

Considering the way the pitching match-ups line up. I think it would be a succesful series if we only lost one game to the Nationals in the Wild Card race - if we ended up tied - or somehow passed them - it'll be a tremendous series.

WWWW - because I do not like the ****ing Mets.

[xiki]

DM on the hill = CB going park. Let's make Martinez look like Chan Ho Park and Beltran, Car - lose.

[rikesh316]

LLWW. Hopefully I am wrong.

[rrj_gamz]

LWWW

I like our chances to continue our tear...I hope its on National TV for us Dallas folks...

Go Stros!!!!

[Saint Louis]

It would be cool if the fans brought a rowdy playoff type atmosphere to the beginning of game one with the Mets. Boo Beltran, scream, cheer and pump the Astros up. Get behind young Astacio on the mound and then let the Astro bats erupt for some first inning scoring.

OK no more daydreaming, back to my day job.

[Nick]

If Astacio keeps the ball down, he's effective. If he doesn't, he's not. Its as simple as that.

Pedro will stifle us, but I don't think he'll shut us out. Regardless... I expect it to be an intense series where the focus will mainly be on the wild card chase, and not on Beltran's return (and who thought we'd be saying that 2 months ago...)

[Uprising]

I bet you didn't know this!

The three-time Cy Young Award winner is just 5-7 with a 4.36 ERA in 16 lifetime games - 13 starts - against the Astros, who are the only team that has a winning record against Martinez. :eek:

I feel better about our chances. Go Stros! :cool:

[fya]

I wanna see the "Beltran sucks" t-shirts waving all throughout mmp :p

[Nick]

Astacio is not going to last long w/ this umps zone... not calling the corners at all.

[Texas Stoke]

This ump behind the plate sucks

[Texas Stoke]

Astacio is not going to last long w/ this umps zone... not calling the corners at all.

I bet he gives those corners to Pedro

[adw]

Ugh Lamb :(

[Buck Turgidson]

Rather ignominious beginning.

Zeke looks great.

[Nick]

I bet he gives those corners to Pedro

Well, if the Mets get a big lead here... that's to be expected. Even if they don't, I guess Pedro has earned those sort of calls over the years.

Actually, now the ump seems to be calling the corners... who knows what he's doing.

[Nick]

If Zeke can get Piazza here... that's about as good as you can do for minimizing the damage.

[tim562]

got to love the Booooo's!!! :D :D

[adw]

That could have been a lot worse,good job Zeke.

[Nick]

Man... Piazza's OPS has trended downward almost perfectly over the last 5 years.

Zeke showed some moxy there.

[Buck Turgidson]

If Zeke can get Piazza here... that's about as good as you can do for minimizing the damage.
No kidding, hard to pitch well when you're getting squeezed by the umps & the gloves behind you are shaky (hit the f'ing cutoff man Orlando!).

Great job by Zeke.

[Puedlfor]

Well, that's not a great start. But it could've been worse.

[Joshfast]

Can't hide Lamb anywhere can you? Zeke kept his composure though - lets get to Martinez!

[tim562]

That ump is so inconsistent!!!

[Groogrux]

Both ways ump.

[Blatz]

got to love the Booooo's!!! :D :D

Was it loud and did it last long?

[Davidoff]

Has Carlos came to the plate yet?

[francis 4 prez]

does this ump think greg maddux or tom glavine is pitching?

[tim562]

Was it loud and did it last long?


MMP doesn't look to full, but you could definitely hear the boo's. It was great, and it lasted about 10 - 15 secs.

[JunkyardDwg]

Freakin' sweet... they boo Beltran going for the fly ball. And what's w/ this ump?

[Davidoff]

Damnit.. I missed it.. on a side note, Martinez is FAT!!!

[Harrisment]

That might be the most pathetic bunt attempt I've ever seen.

[Nick]

Damn... I wish Astacio threw that splitter more when he has 2 strikes on a batter. It looks impossible to lay-off of when you're up against a possible K.

He's got the tools... he's just got to put it all together (and this isn't like Redding... Redding's "stuff" was nonexistent once he got to the majors, and he never threw a single pitch that made me go "woah").

[adw]

Pedro scared of Morgan ;)

[Puedlfor]

Brown and Dierker making excuses for Carlos' free agent shenanigans gets a thumbs down from me.

[tim562]

I hear the Beltran sucks chant!!!

[adw]

Adam swinging for a hr..wtf

[Groogrux]

He calls that a strike in the first and we're tied at 0.

[Groogrux]

Brown and Dierker making excuses for Carlos' free agent shenanigans gets a thumbs down from me.

They don't seem to understand what an agent is.

[Nick]

Carlos needs to learn from Willy T how to get an infield single...

[adw]

Nice pick off Zeke :D

WHOOOO MORGAN.... SIT THE HELL DOWN MOLETRAN!

[Joshfast]

Trade value going up?? :D

Zeke looking good through 3.

[tim562]

Just saw some fans with the Beltrans sucks shirts......just awesome.

[adw]

Yea Willy :D

[Nick]

Take 2nd Willy.... Piazza won't throw you out.

[adw]

Dang Biggio :( God I hate the Mets...come on Zeke hold them down again and lets start hitting Pedro.

[MadMax]

This town has really improved as a baseball city, in general. I'm loving that.

[Puedlfor]

The ump has been poor.

[adw]

Zeke looks good :D Damn that error by Lamb :(

[Groogrux]

Dierker's really getting on my nerves tonight. It's one thing if you don't want to be upset for Beltran not leaving, but to act like it's strange that a good majority of people are and talking so condescendingly about them is annoying.

[Nick]

Woo! Everett!

Its a different guy every night!

[adw]

ADAMMMMMMMMM SWING FOR HR'S :D I should never question what you're doing. :eek:

[DallasThomas]

Adam swinging for a hr..wtf
Well, it was a good idea after all.

:D

[juicystream]

Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam! Adam!

Everett!

[adw]

Well, it was a good idea after all.

:D

lol,that it was :)


Zeke with a hit,man we have some pitchers that can swing the bat.

[DaDakota]

I have watched Zeke at Round Rock all year, and I could never figure out why he was getting shelled so bad in the bigs.....well the last 2 games he is pitching just like he did in the minors...maybe it was a confidence thing?

He is a number 2 or 3 pitcher......soon...

Maybe it is time for him to be in the bigs as the number 5 starter?

DD

[adw]

Zeke pitching so good,damn I didnt expect this going up against Pedro.

[Nick]

I too am very impressed by Astacio... and Ausmus did a great job of calling all his pitches and making the kid change the angles he was giving the batter.

We gotta keep this tied otherwise Pedro could be on his way to a complete game.

[Miguel]

That's probably it for Zeke...great job today.

[francis 4 prez]

Dierker's really getting on my nerves tonight. It's one thing if you don't want to be upset for Beltran not leaving, but to act like it's strange that a good majority of people are and talking so condescendingly about them is annoying.


yeah, you have to expect the boos. however, i don't feel real good about it and, if i were there, would not join in.

it sucks that he left us and it sucks that he strung us along all offseason, and that does draw my ire a little, but he was part of the miracle run to the playoffs last year and his god-like performance in the playoffs was a big reason we had our only taste of playoff success ever and came within one game of the world series. i have a hard time really hating him after all of that (especially since he didn't really owe us any loyalty after only 4 or so months with us) just b/c he wanted more money.

i certainly don't root for him, and do enjoy him struggling and thus being massively overpaid for his new team (that team being from nyc just makes it better), but i can't work up the hate for him most seem to have. and i'm a guy who loves to hate me some athletes.

[adw]

Damn this ump stinks with the corner calls.

[francis 4 prez]

did ensberg sleep with the ump's wife or something?

[xiki]

For an ugly guy this guy pitched beautifully.

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Why are the 'stros in the WC chase? Because, I offer from some observation and zero factual back up, the Good Guys pitchers do an unbelievable job of staying cool and working out of trouble. Zeke in the 1st looked Rocket-esque in his escape. (Wandy early on was the antithesis of this but has been doing much better of late.)

[adw]

UGHHHH GOD! :mad:

[Nick]

Boy... if that fan reached out and caught that ball... ARRGH!

But man... that was a CHEAPIE!

[DaDakota]

Why did they take out Astacio?

DD

[francis 4 prez]

i'm gonna say that has to at least be tied for cheapest crawford boxes homer ever.

[francis 4 prez]

Why did they take out Astacio?

DD

he was up to 100 pitches.

[Nick]

Why did they take out Astacio?

DD

He did pitch 3 innings 3 days ago, so he probably wasn't gonna be able to go much longer.

Lets be thankful for what we got from him...

[DaDakota]

he was up to 100 pitches.

I hate that rule......pitchers have pitched more than that for YEARS.......makes little sense, what is more important is how he felt.


DD

[Saint Louis]

i'm gonna say that has to at least be tied for cheapest crawford boxes homer ever.


I vote the cheapest being the broken bat home run that I think a Padres (Jackson a shortstop) hit. It might even have been a grand slam, but I can't remember.

[francis 4 prez]

I hate that rule......pitchers have pitched more than that for YEARS.......makes little sense, what is more important is how he felt.


DD


yeah, but not pitchers named ezekiel astacio. and not guys who just pitched 3 days ago. and not pitchers who don't wanna have arm problems in the future from being overworked (i.e. prior and wood).

[Nick]

I hate that rule......pitchers have pitched more than that for YEARS.......makes little sense, what is more important is how he felt.


DD

And what pitcher, over the last 100 years, ever told his manager "I'm tired coach... go ahead and take me out."

It never happens.

Also, he wasn't working on full rest anyways... so you have to evaluate this one a little differently.

[adw]

Nice Walk Lamb....LETS GO STROS!

[Nick]

i'm gonna say that has to at least be tied for cheapest crawford boxes homer ever.

Agreed... if only because Cairo put his head down in disgust after he made contact, and that ball had no velocity off the bat whatsoever.

Ausmus had one back in 2000 where the Cardinals announcers were just saying over and over again, "This place is a joke.... this place is a joke... this place is a joke." (and they're still scarred till today about how this park opened in 2000... while they ignore the fact that Busch has actually had a higher park rating factor the last few years).

[francis 4 prez]

i think we should've kept the bunt on. with pedro going well, i'd rather take 2 shots at getting the guy in from third (which wouldn't even require a hit w/ one out) than 3 shots at getting him in from second, especially with everett and crew coming up.

[adw]

Yea Adam! Ok a hit/sac fly would be great here Brad! *crosses fingers*

[Nick]

i think we should've kept the bunt on. with pedro going well, i'd rather take 2 shots at getting the guy in from third (which wouldn't even require a hit w/ one out) than 3 shots at getting him in from second, especially with everett and crew coming up.

I dunno.... with Palmeiro hitting with such a high average, I would have gone for the hit in that situation.

Squeeze here???

[adw]

Or the squeeze! :D

[codell]

no way i let Ausmus bat here

get Viz in

[francis 4 prez]

not that he would've still got the hit, but that's why you'd rather bunt. even singles aren't guaranteed.


nm, thank God we squeezed and didn't let ausmus GIDP. very nice bunt.

tie game baby!

[codell]

id like to see the percentage of squeeze plays when weve had a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs

I almost always think squeeze now in that situation ..the color guys should be saying "Garner is notorious for squeezing in these situations"

[tim562]

The squeeze. :D

[francis 4 prez]

i would've thought the mets would try at least one pitchout, knowing how weak a hitter ausmus is. you've gotta be thinking squeeze, and you know you can still get brad out even wasting a ball. you can't pitchout again if the squeeze isn't on the first pitch, but i'd still try it the first pitch.

[Nick]

i would've thought the mets would try at least one pitchout, knowing how weak a hitter ausmus is. you've gotta be thinking squeeze, and you know you can still get brad out even wasting a ball. you can't pitchout again if the squeeze isn't on the first pitch, but i'd still try it the first pitch.

They've got a rookie manager... :)

[Nick]

Holding my breath again with Gallo pitching....

[adw]

Nice job Gallo,do that more often.

[Groogrux]

That place was going nuts after the squeeze. MadMax is right, this is becoming quite the baseball town.

[Bassfly]

Holding my breath again with Gallo pitching....

Eat it Nick!! I'm buying my Gallo jersey tomorrow.

[Nick]

Eat it Nick!! I'm buying my Gallo jersey tomorrow.

I'll be glad to. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with either him or Springer in a close game, so expect me to be posting that every single time.

[xiki]

Lets be thankful for what we got from him...

Plus a successful finishing group in the 'Pen....ooops, CQ.

[adw]

Come on Dan....DP would be nice here.

[Nick]

Come on Dan....DP would be nice here.

Good Call!

[Bassfly]

I'll be glad to. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with either him or Springer in a close game, so expect me to be posting that every single time.


haha I know, I agree with you. I'm just teasing you cause you really do post it every single time =p

[Miguel]

Come on Dan....DP would be nice here.
Nostradamus. ....:D

Go Stros

[adw]

Nostradamus. ....:D

Go Stros

You know it!
:p

[francis 4 prez]

willy is gonna have nightmares about pedro tonight.

[adw]

LOL @ Cameron

[francis 4 prez]

whatever interpretation of the rule says that wasn't a catch is a bad interpretation, because that was a catch. but i'll take it.


and barely beats the throw. biggio living dangerously.

[Bassfly]

pedro's @ 100 pitches

[Nick]

Piazza looks like he's gonna cry.... he couldn't throw out a batter even if he was standing at the pitcher's mound.

[adw]

Come on Lance,lets get that run in.

[Castor27]

I was sitting at the computer with my back to the tv when Biggio hit it. I heard Brownie say Cameron settling under it and I thought, boy it would be nice if he dropped it.

Edit: This umpiring crew is pretty poor. The guy behind the plate has called several pitches balls and then called a pitch even further out a strike. And he has done this for both teams. He has been brutal for everyone back there.

[adw]

Damn so close :( Lets go Morgan!

[Nick]

Could Bruntlett catch lightning in a bottle twice??? (damn... this is where it hurts to start Lamb and Palmeiro).

[Saint Louis]

Could Bruntlett catch lightning in a bottle twice??? (damn... this is where it hurts to start Lamb and Palmeiro).

No need for a homerun, a bloop single will do.

[Nick]

Hats off to Pedro... man, compared to what he and Clemens had to face in the AL for all those years (namely, the Red Sox and Yankees' lineups), pitching in the NL is like pure vacation for them both.

[Saint Louis]

Pedro is calling it a night.

[The Real Shady]

Man, great game. I hope we can pull it out.

Do you think that Astacio will ever want another catcher behind the plate for him again? First 3 games with Chavez he's been rocked, but these last two with Ausmus he has been amazing. Ausmus is really showing why we stick with him behind the plate despite his hitting.

[adw]

Dan is the man.

LETS GET THAT WIN!

[Nick]

Do you think that Astacio will ever want another catcher behind the plate for him again? First 3 games with Chavez he's been rocked, but these last two with Ausmus he has been amazing. Ausmus is really showing why we stick with him behind the plate despite his hitting.

Forget about Astacio... just look at what Oswalt has done since Brad started catching him again. He's back to where he was in 2001 and 2002, after all his numbers took a pretty sharp decline last year (he was still good... but he was much more hittable when Chavez was handling him).

Oswalt by himself is a pretty darn good pitcher... but with Ausmus, he's a hall-of-famer.

[Saint Louis]

Man, great game. I hope we can pull it out.

Do you think that Astacio will ever want another catcher behind the plate for him again? First 3 games with Chavez he's been rocked, but these last two with Ausmus he has been amazing. Ausmus is really showing why we stick with him behind the plate despite his hitting.

Never judge a catcher by the bat he swings. ;)

[The Real Shady]

Forget about Astacio... just look at what Oswalt has done since Brad started catching him again. He's back to where he was in 2001 and 2002, after all his numbers took a pretty sharp decline last year (he was still good... but he was much more hittable when Chavez was handling him).

Oswalt by himself is a pretty darn good pitcher... but with Ausmus, he's a hall-of-famer.

Damn strait! I wish he could catch every game.

[francis 4 prez]

bunt that sucka over.

[Saint Louis]

bunt that sucka over.

The Stros power hitting SS bunting?

[francis 4 prez]

can we squeeze him in from 2nd?

[adw]

WHOOOOOO BRAD! WHOOOOOOO :D

[Nick]

Never judge a catcher by the bat he swings. ;)

Thanks for the karma!!!!

WOOO!!! BRADLEY!

[apostolic3]

WOW :eek:

[Mr. Mooch]

AUSMUS!!!

ASTROS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Astro101]

AUSMUS A HERO!

[Castor27]

For all those people who go to the bathroom while Ausmus bats, you can come back now the game is over!!!

[Mr. Brightside]

yee-haw

[Saint Louis]

Dang slow Game Channel. What happened?

[The Real Shady]

Wow!!! Astros on a monster roll. Who would have thought we would win with Astacio going against Pedro.

[Groogrux]

I'm convinced Ausmus reads this forum. He's been pretty damn good since Baqui99's thread.

[francis 4 prez]

that boy ausmus with another walk-off hit. this team is just ridiculous. 8+ ERA astacio keeps it close until pedro leaves and then we immediately jump on a relief pitcher who has given up 1 run in 22 innings.

[Miguel]

[21:49] MiG_> YES!!!
[21:49] Puedlfor> GAME OVER.
[21:49] MiG_> GAME OVER
[21:49] MiG_> GAME OVER
[21:49] MiG_> GAME OVER
[21:49] Harrisment> yes
[21:49] MiG_> WOOO!!!!
[21:49] DouglasKiker> WE DID IT
[21:49] Harrisment> YESSSSS
[21:49] Surfguy> HOOLLY COW
[21:49] Harrisment> YES
[21:49] Zac_D> hahaha
[21:49] DouglasKiker> BRAD AUSMUS I LOVE YOU
[21:49] Harrisment> HAHAHA
[21:49] Surfguy> HOLY COW!
[21:49] Zac_D> soi;d;hb
[21:49] Harrisment> WOOHOO AUSSIE!!!!
[21:49] Surfguy> OH MY GOD!
[21:49] MiG_> BRAD AUSMUUUUUUUSS
[21:49] Harrisment> lksjairsdljdfgds
[21:49] Harrisment> YESAH
[21:49] Zac_D> couple of blue stars on that one
[21:49] Surfguy> NEVER GIVE UP!
[21:49] Surfguy> NEVER SURRENDER!
[21:49] MiG_> WOOOOO!!!
[21:49] Puedlfor> hey
[21:50] DouglasKiker> we cant even lose with pedro pitching!
[21:50] Puedlfor> We're tied for the Wild Card.
[21:50] fatman510> SDjalskjf
[21:50] MiG_> BOOOM!
[21:50] Zac_D> that's a tie for the wild card ladies and gents
[21:50] fatman510> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[21:50] fatman510> BRAD AUSMUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:50] fatman510> OMG
[21:50] Harrisment> Tied bitches!
[21:50] fatman510> I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!
[21:50] Surfguy> AUSSIE MUST...AND DID!

[apostolic3]

You know we're on a roll when we start 'Zeke, the Mets start Pedro and Ausmus gets a game winning hit.

[Puedlfor]

Hey, while your basking that we beat one of the best pitcher's in the league with a AAA call-up - remember that we are now tied for the Wild Card.

[Nick]

Guess what folks... if the season ended today, we'd be in the playoffs (cough... jorge... cough).

[tim562]

OH yeah baby, i told ya'll we would find a way to win. :D

BTW - who said Ausums coudn't hit?

[VesceySux]

WILD CARD!!

[Mr. Brightside]

WILD CARD!!


hey, wild card isn't gay. its awesome!!

[bobrek]

Guess what folks... if the season ended today, we'd be in the playoffs (cough... jorge... cough).

I guess that means that T J is now wrong with his pre season prediction.

[MR. MEOWGI]

yay :)

[SWTsig]

You know we're on a roll when we start 'Zeke, the Mets start Pedro and Ausmus gets a game winning hit.

damn straight, sucka!!!

[mateo]

AMAZING

And I wasnt going to watch.

Listened to WFAN while watching....they are being pretty hard on the Mets. :D :D :D

[rikesh316]

Garner is making all the right moves right now. Great win. This is the real Zeke we all expected.

[ruddy5]

Well, tomorrow we'll have wandy on the mound, cross your fingers people, hopefully another good perfomance from our other rookiee. With oz and andy pitching in the last two, we don't have to worry.
WWWW :d :d :d

[The Real Shady]

http://www.clutterofechoes.com/BrianFellow/thatscrazy2.jpg

16-31 to start the season and 39-16 since. That's crazy!

[DonnyMost]

just got back from the game.. both games i've been to this year brad ausmus has won it with an RBI in the bottom of the 9th..

[JBIIRockets]

Man, this game was a thriller. Had it all! great to be a part of. The boos for Beltran were louder than I expected.

[across110thstreet]

when do the Stros play in Shea?

[The Real Shady]

when do the Stros play in Shea?

already played 6 in Shea.

[ruddy5]

when do the Stros play in Shea?
Next year i think

[Baqui99]

"You're the best around! Nothing's gonna ever keep you down! You're the best..around!....."

http://www.roundtable.com/Event_Center/BFI/Karate_Kid.jpg

[xiki]

just got back from the game.. both games i've been to this year brad ausmus has won it with an RBI in the bottom of the 9th..

Attend more games!

[halfbreed]

just got back from the game.. both games i've been to this year brad ausmus has won it with an RBI in the bottom of the 9th..

someone needs to buy this man season tickets

[mateo]

already played 6 in Shea.

It was cold as hell, too.

[apostolic3]

Houston 55 47 .539 Won 5 9-1
Washington 55 47 .539 Lost 4 2-8
Florida 51 48 .515 Won 2 5-5 2.5
Philadelphia 52 50 .510 Lost 3 5-5 3.0
Chicago Cubs 52 50 .510 Lost 1 6-4 3.0
NY Mets 52 50 .510 Lost 1 7-3 3.0

[Puedlfor]

Why was that run in the first counted as earned? Did they not think it was a double play ball?

[The Real Shady]

Got to love the fact that Beltran's return drew the 4th largest crowd in Minute Maid history.

Beltran, the star of Houston's postseason run last October, went 0-for-4, hitting three infield grounders and an easy fly to center. He also helped draw a crowd of 43,552, the second-biggest of the season and fourth-largest in the 6-year history of the ballpark.

[bobrek]

Why was that run in the first counted as earned? Did they not think it was a double play ball?

In official scoring a DP cannot be assumed (one of the stupider scoring rules). On that particular play all they could reasonably assume was an out at first or second, thus the runner would still have been at 3rd with one out and would have scored on the SF.

[Puedlfor]

In official scoring a DP cannot be assumed (one of the stupider scoring rules). On that particular play all they could reasonably assume was an out at first or second, thus the runner would still have been at 3rd with one out and would have scored on the SF.

Thanks for the explanation. That is an odd rule indeed.

[apostolic3]

Apparently the Mets will be getting Soriano imminently. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8742437/

He could help them a lot.

[TMac640]

great damn game

we booed beltran out of the stadium! :D

[deepellumrocket]

In official scoring a DP cannot be assumed (one of the stupider scoring rules). On that particular play all they could reasonably assume was an out at first or second, thus the runner would still have been at 3rd with one out and would have scored on the SF.

Honestly, I don't think you could necessarily count on a double-play on that particular play because Beltran runs so well. Plus 3-6-3 and 3-6-1 double plays are just tougher to execute because whoever covers first really has to hustle to get over to the bag.

[Saint Louis]

Got to love the fact that Beltran's return drew the 4th largest crowd in Minute Maid history.

I guess there a lot of people who wanted to let Beltran know how they really feel.

[Uprising]

Great game, great win.

I just finished moving my stuff to my new house. I was in and out of my truck listening to the game. I gotta admit, I was yelling in celebration in my truck while driving when Ausmus had his 2nd rbi of the night. what a win! :D

[The Real Shady]

"(The booing) hurt me, but I tried to block it. You're going to hear everything they say, because I'm real close. But the only thing I can do is try to focus on the game." - Beltran

Awww, poor baby. Great job to everyone who went to the game. :D

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3287373

[Svpernaut]

I guess I'll be the first to do it.

WWWW

Ezekiel goes on a tear.


Good call fatty.

[Mr. Brightside]

Apparently the Mets will be getting Soriano imminently. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8742437/

He could help them a lot.


That would be huge, and change the WC picture completely. Rangers would be idiots to part with Soriano.

[xcharged]

i'll be there tonight....where can i find the free beer

[kpsta]

The booing...

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050728&content_id=1148501&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

[RocketMan Tex]

Rather than boo Beltran, someone ought to burn Scott Boras in effigy.

[Austin70]

The booing...

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050728&content_id=1148501&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

In the article the writer said that all Beltran did was not sign with the Astros, he did more then that, he waited until the last freakin' minute.

[torque]

Rather than boo Beltran, someone ought to burn Scott Boras in effigy.
Why an effigy? Just burn Boras.

[RocketMan Tex]

Why an effigy? Just burn Boras.

I'd love to!

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Have fun wathing the playoffs this year. Ba Cry baby beltran.

[robbie380]

That would be huge, and change the WC picture completely. Rangers would be idiots to part with Soriano.


depends who they get. if the mets are ready to give up talent like they did for freaking victor zambrano then the rangers could get the whole damn farm system. that being said i don't even know what kind of pitching talent the mets have availible.

[wrath_of_khan]

Apparently the Mets will be getting Soriano imminently. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8742437/

He could help them a lot.

According to this article, Soriano would move to LF if he went to the Cubs.

I thought Soriano was adamant that he wasn't willing to go to the OF? If he's willing to play LF, I'm interested ...

[Fatty FatBastard]

Alrighty! Seal was freaking as good as he can be last night!

Time for Wandy to follow suit!

WWWW

[rrj_gamz]

Can't wait for tonight...Great game last night...Go Stros!!!

[Puedlfor]

In tonight's lineup, eight of the nine starters have played only in the majors for the Good Guys.

[The Ming Dynasty]

Nice shot Biggio :D

[adw]

Wandy looking good so far too :)

[ruddy5]

Wandy looking good so far too :)

I like what those pair of rookie are doing

[Uprising]

Nice shot Biggio :D

He does it again! Craig is amazing with first inning homers. I loved it when he did it as the lead off man.

[Uprising]

BERKMAN!

2 run bomb!!!

[adw]

LANCE WITH A 2-RUN BOMB! :D

[Uprising]

Well, it finally happenen. Beltran just got his first hit at MMP as a Met.

[adw]

Wandy still looking real real good :D

[adw]

Dang Wandy with two straight walks....We need some more DP magic.

[adw]

Boooo Beltran scores on a sac fly...3-1 Stros

[adw]

Ughhhh 3-2 Piazza hits a bloop single :(

[Uprising]

Now their catcher is trying to be the hero! :o

[ruddy5]

I think it is all for for wandy.
Great work good boy

[Uprising]

MORGAN HR!!!

WHOOOOP! :D :D

DRAYTON CALLED THAT HOMER!!!!

5-2 Good Guys.

[adw]

WHOOOOO MORGAN # 27 2-RUN HR...5-2 STROS :D

[Uprising]

Is there an echo in here?! I swear there is an echo! :p

[adw]

Is there an echo in here?! I swear there is an echo! :p

lol,no just a faster typer :p

[adw]

Dang Adam thrown out at home :(

LETS GO QUALLS!

[ruddy5]

Dang Adam thrown out at home :(

LETS GO QUALLS!
was it close or another blunder by the 3rd base coach?

[arkoe]

Dang Adam thrown out at home :(

LETS GO QUALLS!

Good. CBS Sportsline said he was thrown out at third, and if so I was going to be pissed.

[adw]

was it close or another blunder by the 3rd base coach?

Close.

[arkoe]

Quall call!

[VesceySux]

Geez. The NY broadcasters have been bashing and laughing at that Division Series Champs banner ALL NIGHT long. (The camera keeps showing it.)

"Ha ha ha ha! The definition of the Wild Card is that you DIDN'T win the division!"

STFU, haters. You don't even know what that banner is referring to in the first place.

[Uprising]

Thankgod I don't have the NY feed.....actually, I'd rather have that than what I do/don't have.

I don't have a video feed, because COX cable hates Houston.

[Uprising]

LIGHTS OUT LIDGE TIME!

:cool:

Listen to this crowd!!!!



GAME OVER! "Strike Out! ASTROS WIN! ASTROS WIN! ASTROS WIN AGAIN!"--Milo

[ruddy5]

Game over. 1 game atop of the wild CARE :d :d

[NIKEstrad]

was it close or another blunder by the 3rd base coach?

It was a conventional move. Runner on 2nd, 2 outs, single to left field. Everett's a fast runner, and we have a 3 run lead. In any other ballpark, he's probably safe.

Because of the Crawford Boxes, the LF is shallower. Any time with 2 outs and a fairly safe lead, you challenge the outfielder to make a good throw, especially with a guy who's not one of your better RBI men on deck in Taveras.

The Mets just threw their 2 best records/ERAs against our 2 worst ERAs and lost twice. Now we bring the pain with Pettitte and Roy O. This team is fun to watch, and with this starting pitching and the Wheeler/Lidge end game, we will be dangerous down the stretch.

Wandy and Zeke have pitched exceptionally well lately...enough to make me consider moving Nieve, Buchholz, or Hirsh if the right deal is there.

[Uprising]

Read this on the ESPN site.

Anti-Beltran sign of the night: "We Miss You Beltran" with the guy next to him holding up a banner that read, "He's Lying."

:D

[The Ming Dynasty]

Sweet win! No, I'm not slow...I have tivo. :D
Beautiful game w/ the Nats loss.

[Raven Lunatic]

This team just seems so unbeatable right now. At home or on the road. To me, the biggest test was right after the Cardinals series. We had been on a tear going into the All Star break, and then we suddenly get brought down a peg (or two) by the Cardinals. It would have been real easy for the Stros to get discouraged at that point and think that maybe they aren't as good as they had been playing. Instead, they go right back to their winning ways as if they had swept the Cardinals instead of being swept. That was gut check time, and the Stros passed with flying colors.

[TigerBait]

haha. I went to the game, and was actually sitting about 4 rows in front and to the left of that He's Lying sign down the 3rd base line. The booing for Beltran was non-stop like I expected (was loudest when he scored that run and almost hit a HR), and my seats were great to see those homeruns. Wasn't as dramatic as some of the other games, but with Beltran, 3 homers, and a young pitcher pitching good, it was exciting.

[Baqui99]

In honor of the Astros, I'm getting drunk tonight! :cool:

Now off to 6th St.!!!!

[Blatz]

In honor of the Astros, I'm getting drunk tonight! :cool:

Now off to 6th St.!!!!

Go to Emo's and get a Black and Tan made with Lone Star.

[MR. MEOWGI]

yay :)

[VesceySux]

From ESPN:

"I can't let it affect my play," [Beltran] said. "I tried to look at it a different way. When they booed me, I tried to think they do it because they care about me. I tried to make it positive and not a negative."

:confused:

Whatever makes you sleep at night, asshat. That's what we in the real world like to call "DENIAL."

[mateo]

Geez. The NY broadcasters have been bashing and laughing at that Division Series Champs banner ALL NIGHT long. (The camera keeps showing it.)

"Ha ha ha ha! The definition of the Wild Card is that you DIDN'T win the division!"

STFU, haters. You don't even know what that banner is referring to in the first place.

We'll take down that banner after St Louis gets rid of the co-division championship banner they have. I hate that.

[tim562]

haha. I went to the game, and was actually sitting about 4 rows in front and to the left of that He's Lying sign down the 3rd base line. The booing for Beltran was non-stop like I expected (was loudest when he scored that run and almost hit a HR), and my seats were great to see those homeruns. Wasn't as dramatic as some of the other games, but with Beltran, 3 homers, and a young pitcher pitching good, it was exciting.


I was next to you bro. I was in the third row just to the right of the dugout entrance in sec 112. Everytime Beltran came out or in, he heard it. Actually, it got so bad, the Pedro Martinez flipped us off. It was great. I loved every minute of it.

[TigerBait]

I was next to you bro. I was in the third row just to the right of the dugout entrance in sec 112. Everytime Beltran came out or in, he heard it. Actually, it got so bad, the Pedro Martinez flipped us off. It was great. I loved every minute of it.
LOL, Pedro is so cool. When they put him up on the video board, and he kinda gave us that dry humping motion, I could only point and laugh at how dumb he is.

[adw]

Yuck Reyes starts off the game with a single.

[adw]

Whoo Andy gets Beltran out for the last out of the first inning :)

[mateo]

The Mets announcers...not too happy about that hit by pitch call...bitching about the head of the umpires union being responsible because there are fewer "quality" umps. T-minus 10 minutes til they go off on another "That Mike Cameron dropped ball call was crap" speech like last night.

They also just said that Manny is strangely not playing for Sox tonight.

[adw]

Glavine getting his bs corner calls,4 inchs off the plate >_<

[Svpernaut]

The Mets announcers...not too happy about that hit by pitch call...bitching about the head of the umpires union being responsible because there are fewer "quality" umps. T-minus 10 minutes til they go off on another "That Mike Cameron dropped ball call was crap" speech like last night.


haha... jackholes.

[adw]

Ughhh Beltran chased down a Lane deep drive...stranded runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs :(

[adw]

Andy having some control issues so far.

[Miguel]

Matrix get your ass on AIM dammit.

[Uprising]

Wow, Pettite is starting to get his control back. 3 strike outs in the last 5 batters.

Ugh...Reyes is seeing the ball well, 2 hits for him so far tonight.

[adw]

Damn I was about to say our D failing us and Burke pulls off a great catch :D

[Texas Stoke]

Berkman's defense at first base is atrocious. Trade for a first baseman and put his ass back in the outfield.


whoa, Burke saves his ass with a spectacular dive.

[adw]

Berkman's defense at first base is atrocious. Trade for a first baseman and put his ass back in the outfield.


whoa, Burke saves his ass with a spectacular dive.

Berkman is in no way a great first baseman,but that was a bad throw by Adam.

[Texas Stoke]

Berkman is in no way a great first baseman,but that was a bad throw by Adam.

It looked like Berkman botched that because he was too close to the runner which is why Everett had to throw it up high.

[Uprising]

THis doesn't make any sense, what happened?

Top 6TH B:0 S:1 O:1
With Miguel Cairo batting, Jose Reyes picked off and caught stealing 2nd base, throwing error by Adam Everett.

[Svpernaut]

It looked like Berkman botched that because he was too close to the runner which is why Everett had to throw it up high.

nah, Everett just "bloops" balls far too often... if he wouldn't have thrown it like a girly-man the runner would have been out. He needs to get more zip on the ball. From time to time he'll throw a rainbow to first and make the first baseman do a Jordan impression.

[Svpernaut]

THis doesn't make any sense, what happened?

Top 6TH B:0 S:1 O:1
With Miguel Cairo batting, Jose Reyes picked off and caught stealing 2nd base, throwing error by Adam Everett.

It was a rundown and Everett made a bad throw.

[adw]

THis doesn't make any sense, what happened?

Top 6TH B:0 S:1 O:1
With Miguel Cairo batting, Jose Reyes picked off and caught stealing 2nd base, throwing error by Adam Everett.

Reyes was caught in a run down,but Adam botched the throw and Reyes got back to 1st.

[codell]

Actually, to me it looked like Everett was trying to throw to Pettite and Berkman intercepted it.

[adw]

I hate Glavine :mad: Hit this old fart! :(

[Svpernaut]

If I had a dollar for every Ensberg called third strike................... SWING THE BAT DUDE!

[adw]

Nice Moletran pops out, 0-3 against Andy.

[adw]

Damn Ensberg is really looking solid fielding lately.

[Svpernaut]

Can Piazza be anymore worthless? He actually almost makes me feel sorry for Met's fan. 16 Million for a guy hitting .263 with 12 homers, 46 RBIs, no throwing arm and maybe the game's slowest box to first time.

[adw]

WHOOOOOO LANE SOLO HR #16 :D

[Svpernaut]

Dinger... Jason Lane, WOOT! Dierker and the whistle... CHOOOOOOOOO!