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yaoisgod
04-26-2005, 02:04 PM
Just saw that the Texans released Aaron Glenn....kinda disapointed myself

SamCassell
04-26-2005, 02:09 PM
Texans traded 2nd and 3rd round draft picks to get a guy who may or may not be an upgrade to the guy we already had on the field, and then let that established vet go. Seems like a high price to pay for a lateral move. Hope it pays off.

BSW
04-26-2005, 02:12 PM
interesting to see what the Texans are doing. Lets just hope that is works out.

DrewP
04-26-2005, 02:15 PM
Dear Texans fans,

Thank you very much for Aaron Glenn. I know we have had some tough times in the past, but this was very generous on your part. You now have two wonderful young cornerbacks and no longer have room for a very the talented veteran (if only the asshole that has all the good short stops in my fantasy baseball league were so kind!)

This acquistion coupled with the draft and free agent signings gives me new hope for the year. Barring injuries or a complete quarterback meltdown, I think the Cowboys will be in the playoffs this year. Hopefully the Texans will be too.

Love,
Drew


This should be followed with a novel by R.C. about the correlations between the Glenn pickup and the new X-box 360. I anxiously await said post.

JamesC
04-26-2005, 02:39 PM
I cant believe this. It looked like the Texans were gonna have a stacked but good secondary this year. Crap, Aaron Glenn was one of my favorite players.

rrj_gamz
04-26-2005, 02:49 PM
All the veteran moves this year have all been salary cap related...I mean, AG was a good CB, but not worth the $$$...He'll be fine...Should go to Dallas, as they need a good veteran corner...

Glish21
04-26-2005, 03:10 PM
here's the link


"Glenn is fourth defensive starter to leave"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2046742

No Worries
04-26-2005, 03:21 PM
"Glenn is fourth defensive starter to leave"

Somebody quick what was our D rated last year?

MadMax
04-26-2005, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by No Worries
"Glenn is fourth defensive starter to leave"

Somebody quick what was our D rated last year?

yeah..that was kinda my thought, as well.

ummmm...soooo??? :D

DieHard Rocket
04-26-2005, 03:35 PM
This one is tough to swallow. Especially with the fact that he will be a Cowboy. I just keep leaning back on Casserly's short track record with this team and hope it works out for the best. The defense really wasn't very good last year...not playoff caliber anyway. Something had to change, and now it's happening.

SwoLy-D
04-26-2005, 03:37 PM
F*CK!

5 interceptions not good enough for you? DAMN. He had one more year in him... :(

No Worries
04-26-2005, 03:41 PM
I am sure that if money was not an issue they would have kept him.

rocketlaunch
04-26-2005, 03:48 PM
actually the radio stations in houston said when we picked up PB he asked for his release since he may not be a guarenteed starter so we granted his wish.

MadMax
04-26-2005, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by rocketlaunch
actually the radio stations in houston said when we picked up PB he asked for his release since he may not be a guarenteed starter so we granted his wish.

yeah..i just heard that, too. that was surprising, frankly.

NJRocket
04-26-2005, 04:01 PM
Probably couldnt get a no trade clause;)

Lil Francis
04-26-2005, 04:35 PM
We should have traded Glenn a #2 and a #3 to Detroit for Charles Rogers :D But seriously I hate to see Glenn go out like that and I hate he is going to the CowGirls even more.

twoniner
04-26-2005, 04:42 PM
Both the Dallas Cowboys and New England Patriots were believed to be interested in trading for the veteran before he was released.

Alright, so someone explain that one to me. Why not trade him for something?

SamCassell
04-26-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by twoniner
Alright, so someone explain that one to me. Why not trade him for something?
They have to be willing to trade you something of value. It's quite possible that Dallas and NE just wanted to unload their mistake contracts on the Texans.

RocketJedi
04-26-2005, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by twoniner
Alright, so someone explain that one to me. Why not trade him for something?

Probably because of his onerous contract.

Stack24
04-26-2005, 05:28 PM
I heard a quick thing on 610 but didn't get the whole part...theys aid something about Glenn and the Cowboys...did he sign or are they jsut interested?

cwebbster
04-26-2005, 08:13 PM
stupid

Ottomaton
04-26-2005, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by twoniner
Alright, so someone explain that one to me. Why not trade him for something?

With the salary cap as it is, older vets with big salaries never get traded, just released. The rare exception is for a "glamour" position guy, like Drew Bledsoe.

Uprising
04-26-2005, 11:17 PM
Crap, I really liked Glenn.

rezdawg
04-27-2005, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by SamCassell
Texans traded 2nd and 3rd round draft picks to get a guy who may or may not be an upgrade to the guy we already had on the field, and then let that established vet go. Seems like a high price to pay for a lateral move. Hope it pays off.

I wouldnt say its a lateral move. Maybe for the time being its a lateral move, but 1 year from now, it will be a big step in the right direction.

Couple things that make it good:

1) Glenn's age vs. Buchanon's age

Basically, we gain about 8 years. Therefore, its an obvious move to establish youth.

2) Glenn's talent vs. Buchanon's talent

As of now, I would say that maybe they are equal. However, Buchanon can get better while Glenn is on the decline.

3) Glenn's contract vs. Buchanon's contract

Bottomline, Glenn makes too much money for what he brings to the table. PB will me making a whopping 700K.

We save a crapload of money over the next 3 years by cutting Glenn. Its a business move that doesnt hinder the skill level of our defense. In a hard cap world, its a no brainer.

Next up: Gary Walker

DVauthrin
04-27-2005, 02:06 AM
Aaron Glenn deserves to be ripped for the way he handled this situation. I get the feeling the Texans had no desire to cut him or trade him, but Glenn forced their hand.

The reason why I think this is because I heard his interview on 610 this afternoon. Glenn basically admitted he didn't want to sit on the bench, but then when talking about going to Dallas he said whether it's as a starter or a nickel back he is excited about doing whatever they ask of him. I'm embarrassed at the Houston media not questioning him after he said that. I understand he is just trying to "say the right things" but still you have to come back with a counter question.

The bottom line is I think Glenn got his feelings hurt that the Texans brought in a young talented corner in Buchanon and he is the one who asked for the trade/release not the team.

twoniner
04-27-2005, 02:29 AM
I heard that same thing on 610. The only thing dumbass Lord inferred from those remarks was that the Texans told Glenn he would be behind Petey ****ing Faggins in the nickel package. "The Voice" always ready to overhype Petey went right along with it. Just about the most absurd **** I've heard.

Lord later couldn't recall who our free safety was... The guy just sucks sometimes.

MadMax
04-27-2005, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by DVauthrin
Aaron Glenn deserves to be ripped for the way he handled this situation. I get the feeling the Texans had no desire to cut him or trade him, but Glenn forced their hand.

The reason why I think this is because I heard his interview on 610 this afternoon. Glenn basically admitted he didn't want to sit on the bench, but then when talking about going to Dallas he said whether it's as a starter or a nickel back he is excited about doing whatever they ask of him. I'm embarrassed at the Houston media not questioning him after he said that. I understand he is just trying to "say the right things" but still you have to come back with a counter question.

The bottom line is I think Glenn got his feelings hurt that the Texans brought in a young talented corner in Buchanon and he is the one who asked for the trade/release not the team.

yeah..that's what i totally didn't understand. Glenn was saying he didn't want to be a distraction in competing for a job among two good younger players....but then went to the Cowboys to do that very thing???? :confused: where am i??

xiki
04-27-2005, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by rezdawg
I3) Glenn's contract vs. Buchanon's contract

Bottomline, Glenn makes too much money for what he brings to the table. PB will me making a whopping 700K.

We save a crapload of money over the next 3 years by cutting Glenn. Its a business move that doesnt hinder the skill level of our defense. In a hard cap world, its a no brainer.

Next up: Gary Walker

Sharper and Glenn gone for laterals or slight upgrades, PLUS cap room. Will it be spent, spent well, or ? ? ?

Colt45
04-27-2005, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Glish21
here's the link


"Glenn is fourth defensive starter to leave"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2046742

That headline would be accurate...if this was written a year ago. Brown lost his job to Earl halfway through the season and Foreman was replaced by DaShon Polk after he went on IR in week 13. You remember . That was right about the time the Texans "D" began it's streak of 12 quarters without giving up a TD.

A little hyperbole by ESPN there.

DAROckets
04-27-2005, 01:52 PM
I've been a fan of Glenn since his aggie days but he did seem to be giving up big catches last year...hope the extra money will be spent wisely.

Ottomaton
04-28-2005, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by xiki
Sharper and Glenn gone for laterals or slight upgrades, PLUS cap room. Will it be spent, spent well, or ? ? ?

Most of the cap room benefit doesn't occur until after this year, just to be clear. According to Houstonprofootball, the pro-rated signing bonus hit is $3.5 mil vs. $4 mil if he had stayed. You gain $500,000 but also free up a roster spot which has to be filled.

rezdawg
04-28-2005, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Ottomaton
Most of the cap room benefit doesn't occur until after this year, just to be clear.

Exactly. We dont take on their contracts for future years, instead, we can use that money elsewhere. I really would love to get rid of Walker's contract by next year. That's the worst contract in Texan history. Well, maybe 2nd worst, after handing out a contract of any value to Matt Stevens.

RC Cola
04-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by DrewP
This should be followed with a novel by R.C. about the correlations between the Glenn pickup and the new X-box 360. I anxiously await said post.
Sorry about the long wait. For some strange reason, I never thought about checking out this forum for a thread about a former Texans CB. :confused: :o

Of course, I like the deal. I've been trying to keep away from most Cowboys news in an attempt to not get over-hyped, so this came as a complete surprise to me ( and a pleasant one at that). I was a little worried about the secondary after reviewing the Cowboys moves after the draft, especially at the corner position, but this really improves that spot. Parcells is making sure that the defensive woes we had last year won't emerge again next year. Hopefully, those rookies and new defensive schemes will work so that we won't have to count on Glenn (or other DB's) covering his man for 4+ seconds.

I'm pretty glad to hear all the positive comments about Glenn. I always thought pretty highly of him, but hadn't kept up with him as closely as I could have. It sucks to lose him like this and have him sign with the Cowboys, but at least you still got two great young corners starting for your defense.

And now for the correlation:

Glenn will debut in the fall of '05, just like the Cowboys. Chances are that many Cowboys fans will absolutely love him the first year since he may bring something we haven't seen much of. He'll probably be solid again in the second year, although there may be news of a newer, better corner from the draft/free agency that could take his place. After 2 years, there may be no future for Glenn unless he pulls off something incredible.

Also, while I'm sure Glenn is a likable guy, he won't improve the Cowboys relations with Japan. Chances are that no one will even know he exists.

It's amazing how similar the Xbox 360 and Aaron Glenn really are. :eek: