[610] Corey Bradford signs

[Faos]

With the Texans again.

[rikesh316]

Damn it.

[The Real Shady]

I guess the texans think Troy Williamson will now get selected before the 13th pick.

[MadMax]

wow. shocked.

[leroy420]

He'll be the best 5th or 6th receiver in the NFL.

AJ
rookie/FA
Gaffney
Armstrong
a battle between Bradford, Sloan Thomas, and Kendrick Starling

[Joshfast]

Originally posted by leroy420
He'll be the best 5th or 6th receiver in the NFL.

AJ
rookie/FA
Gaffney
Armstrong
a battle between Bradford, Sloan Thomas, and Kendrick Starling

I don't think he signed to be the fifth reciever, he is third on the depth chart unless we draft a stud or he outright loses it in camp.

This offseason has been disappointing imo, but the draft and cuts can still turn it around.

[Lil Francis]

Originally posted by Joshfast
I don't think he signed to be the fifth reciever, he is third on the depth chart unless we draft a stud or he outright loses it in camp.

This offseason has been disappointing imo, but the draft and cuts can still turn it around. I think next offseason will be the first season the Texans sign a big time free agent. If they go 9-7 this season then those big time players might want to play here.

[spence99]

Derrick Armstrong should be ahead of Gaffney and Bradford in my opinion, but he doesn't get a chance because he wasn't a high draft pick. I think Armstrong could be a good compliment to AJ - a good posession receiver.

[pgabriel]

I'm glad, I think the Texans would have been absolutely stupid to spend their draft pick on a reciever. This team has too many needs to be drafting a wide receiver when they already have the very best young receiver to come into the league in the past three seasons.

Johnson, Armstrong, and Bradford are diverse enough to provide any kind of offense they want to run.

[xiki]

Is there guaranteed money? Or is he cut fodder this summer?

[rezdawg]

Originally posted by pgabriel
I'm glad, I think the Texans would have been absolutely stupid to spend their draft pick on a reciever. This team has too many needs to be drafting a wide receiver when they already have the very best young receiver to come into the league in the past three seasons.

Johnson, Armstrong, and Bradford are diverse enough to provide any kind of offense they want to run.

First off, the Texans will still draft a WR. Its not "stupid" to do so. Bradford is not a good enough reciever at the 2. Our receiving corp sucks. Plain and simple. Teams can double team AJ all day long and our other receivers cant take advantage of the one-on-one coverage. Thats the problem. Thats also the reason we need another receiver. If teams arent allowed to double up on AJ, then Johnson will be running circles around the defense. Thats why it is imperative to get another receiver that demands some sort of respect. Until we get that, AJ will not be as effective as he can be and the offense will suffer for that.

Therefore, expect the Texans to still draft a receiver if they were planning on taking one before, which I would bet they were. Bradford signing a one year deal will not change anything other than give us better depth at that position.

[pgabriel]

What's the point of having recievers if David Carr has no time to throw and the defense has no chance to stop anyone. The Texans need help on both lines. That's where they need to focus. The reciveving corps is not bad and for a fourth year team its actually pretty good.

[Summer Song Giver]

Originally posted by pgabriel
What's the point of having recievers if David Carr has no time to throw and the defense has no chance to stop anyone. The Texans need help on both lines. That's where they need to focus. The reciveving corps is not bad and for a fourth year team its actually pretty good.

agreed, I hope we get Barron and go for WR no earlier than the 3rd round.

[spence99]

AJ is good enough that teams can double him, and we can still throw to him and expect him to catch it. All top WR's get doubled. Even if we draft a receiver, teams will double AJ. Maybe if the Texans stopped throwing the ball to Dominick Davis 15 times a game, then our 2nd receiver could be more productive.

[xiki]

Originally posted by spence99
\ Maybe if the Texans stopped throwing the ball to Dominick Davis 15 times a game, then our 2nd receiver could be more productive.

Maybe if the OL could give DC a couple of seconds then DC could look downfield.

[rezdawg]

Originally posted by pgabriel
What's the point of having recievers if David Carr has no time to throw and the defense has no chance to stop anyone. The Texans need help on both lines. That's where they need to focus. The reciveving corps is not bad and for a fourth year team its actually pretty good.

There is nobody in the draft that will help in that department. All those tackles need at least one year before they become effective, if they ever do become effective.

[rezdawg]

Originally posted by spence99
AJ is good enough that teams can double him, and we can still throw to him and expect him to catch it. All top WR's get doubled. Even if we draft a receiver, teams will double AJ. Maybe if the Texans stopped throwing the ball to Dominick Davis 15 times a game, then our 2nd receiver could be more productive.

Yes, all good receivers do get doubled. However, look at Moss or Harrison. They have receivers lining up with them that can take advantage of single coverage. We do not have anyone that can do that. Thats the difference between a Corey Bradford and a Reggie Wayne.

The Texans lack a #2 receiver.

If this draft had a legit LT, I would be all for it. But, it doesnt, so we have to pass on that.

[SamFisher]

Originally posted by rezdawg
First off, the Texans will still draft a WR. Its not "stupid" to do so. Bradford is not a good enough reciever at the 2. Our receiving corp sucks. Plain and simple. Teams can double team AJ all day long and our other receivers cant take advantage of the one-on-one coverage. Thats the problem. Thats also the reason we need another receiver. If teams arent allowed to double up on AJ, then Johnson will be running circles around the defense. Thats why it is imperative to get another receiver that demands some sort of respect. Until we get that, AJ will not be as effective as he can be and the offense will suffer for that.

Therefore, expect the Texans to still draft a receiver if they were planning on taking one before, which I would bet they were. Bradford signing a one year deal will not change anything other than give us better depth at that position.

Look at the Patriots the last few years - it's much better to have time to throw than stud wideouts.

[rezdawg]

Originally posted by SamFisher
Look at the Patriots the last few years - it's much better to have time to throw than stud wideouts.

Bro, if I could patch up the Oline, I would be all for it. Unfortunately, Barron will not turn the Oline into a force to be reckoned with.

I know that games are won and lost in the trenches. I would love to have the best oline and dline, while being decent in every other department. Unfortunately, thats not the hand weve been dealt.

We are forced to upgrade other areas.

[NIKEstrad]

Originally posted by SamFisher
Look at the Patriots the last few years - it's much better to have time to throw than stud wideouts.

Well we tried for Pace...I don't think we go for a receiver in round 1, but I wouldn't mind one in round 2 or 3. None of the first round OL talent really seems like they'll be worth the pick that would be needed to sign them.

I'd lean towards one of the top corners to take over for Glenn in a year or two, or do what it takes to get DJ (which may be nothing).

[rezdawg]

Speaking of Barron, I'd like to bring up his workout numbers. The guy is fast as hell for a man his size and can fly for a dude with his physique. These numbers are what allowed him to shoot up the charts. Seriously though, how does this help him in a game. Does he ever need to jump? Unless he scores a TD and wants to slam the ball over the cross bar, I dont see how the vertical helps him.

Anyways, back to my point. I was looking at the major component of his workout numbers. The one that gives us some insight as to how strong he is. The event: Bench Press. He was able to do 19 reps at 225. 19? Are you kidding? Now, Im not saying that he cant improve on that, but come on. For someone who is 320 lbs, thats weak.

The "other" 2 top tackle prospects
Khalif Barnes (LT) 26 reps
Jammal Brown (LT) 26 reps

Sorry, just another reason to not take Barron. He just doesnt deserve the respect he is getting, IMO. Unless, of course, playing the LT position requires great leaping ability as well as the abilitly to run 3 miles in under 22 minutes. In that case, Barron would be my number one choice.

[Joe Joe]

Originally posted by rezdawg
. Does he ever need to jump? Unless he scores a TD and wants to slam the ball over the cross bar, I dont see how the vertical helps him.


The vertical jump for OLine is used to measure explosive strength in his lower body.

[rezdawg]

Originally posted by Joe Joe
The vertical jump for OLine is used to measure explosive strength in his lower body.

Not really. Jumping is more of a result of calf strength with the quads/hammys being the secondary muscle.

The "explosive strength" an Olineman uses, such as when they are attacking a defender, results from the quads/hamstrings being used as the primary muscle group with the calves being the secondary muscle group.

Therefore, the two can be related, but they are definitely not substitutes.

Squats would be a better indicator of strength for OLineman.

*edit*

Also, how high you jump is directly related to length of your achilles tendon. Therefore, people who want to jump higher, do workouts that stretch the tendon in order to maximize their vertical leap. Stretching the tendon and building calf muscle are the 2 most important things in "jumping high". Yes, this is a measure of explosiveness, but not really the explosiveness that an OLineman needs.

[rezdawg]

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