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Yaowaming
04-10-2005, 06:45 AM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/041005dnspomavslede.4e57b.html

Mavs' win over Jazz is a fight to the finish ... and then some

Stackhouse involved in altercation with Utah player after game


12:51 AM CDT on Sunday, April 10, 2005


By DAVID MOORE / The Dallas Morning News



The Mavericks had to fight until the final seconds to beat Utah on Saturday night.

In the case of Jerry Stackhouse, the fight extended into the tunnel well after the game was over.

Nearly 20 minutes after the Mavericks' 88-81 victory over the Jazz was completed, witnesses said Stackhouse was standing in the tunnel that leads to the Utah team bus talking to his wife. Accounts varied on what happened next. But this much is certain: Stackhouse and Utah rookie Kirk Snyder, who exchanged words during the game, quickly came to blows.

Mavericks officials and security guards were still piecing together information late Saturday night. But there were reports that the fight lasted up to 40 seconds. Security officials from all over American Airlines Center rushed to break up the confrontation, and there were reports that Stackhouse knocked Snyder to the ground at one point.


The Mavericks said they were continuing to investigate and would not issue a statement until they were clear on what happened. The club did leave a voice mail with the league office early this morning to let it know about the altercation.

The league will conduct its own investigation. Historically, the NBA office levies fines and/or suspensions in these matters.

Mavericks owner Mark Cuban met with three other club officials before emerging from an office shortly before midnight.

"Something happened," Cuban said. "Stack said he was defending himself. It started in the game. He was there with his wife.

"All we know is something happened. We're hearing varying stories. There is really nothing to say until we investigate it further and see what happens."

An irate Stackhouse was escorted back to the locker room by teammates Josh Howard and Michael Finley. Jazz coach Jerry Sloan was informed of the fight by a reporter upon leaving the Utah locker room. He rushed to the team bus, where he and the rest of the coaching staff pulled the rookie off the bus.

Snyder was bleeding as he spoke to Sloan. Afterward, Sloan declined to say much other than Snyder told him he was not the guilty party.


LOUIS DeLUCA/DMN
Mavericks fans plead the case of Dirk Nowitzki as he hits the floor during a game in which 62 fouls were called.
This isn't the first incident for Snyder. Nearly two weeks ago, he was removed from a game against Houston when he began taunting the Rockets' bench. Sloan apologized to the Rockets and informally suspended Snyder for Utah's next game.

The fight overshadowed the fact the win clinched home-court advantage for the Mavericks in the first round of the playoffs.

The seven-point win over Utah wasn't as impressive as their 36-point blowout of San Antonio two nights earlier. That's being kind. The Mavericks blew a 15-point fourth quarter lead and were extended into the final minute by a vastly inferior opponent.

"Obviously, this game was a struggle for us," said coach Avery Johnson, who warned his team in practice and the shoot-around to guard against a letdown. "I've been in situations like this before. I've seen coaches scream and holler and kick chairs to get the guys ready to play. Sometimes, it takes a close game in the fourth quarter for you to wake up."

It was closer than expected. Still, the game continued the team's reversal of fortunes at American Airlines Center.

A team that was booed in Don Nelson's final two home games as coach is 6-0 at home under Avery Johnson. The Mavericks aren't just winning these games, they're dominating; the average margin of victory is 19 points.

The Mavericks retain a mathematical chance to catch the Spurs for the Southwest Division title. But that is slim. The priority is to work on defensive pressure, offensive efficiency and see which team emerges in the scrum between Sacramento, Denver and Houston for the No. 5 seed.

This was a game where three consecutive possessions without someone being whistled for a foul constituted offensive flow. It was a game where 62 personal fouls, four technicals and one flagrant were called, yet nothing was called at the end of the third quarter when Keith Van Horn was dripping blood on the court after being hit in the face.

One of the few offensive highlights came late in the first half when Erick Dampier took a lob pass from Dirk Nowitzki in transition and slammed it home. A sequence late in the third quarter was more indicative of the evening.

Nowitzki was two steps inside the 3-point line and fell down as he passed the ball to Darrell Armstrong. The veteran point guard fell down as he got the ball to Stackhouse, who ended the possession with an offensive foul.

E-mail dmoore@dallasnews.com

dback816
04-10-2005, 08:19 AM
bleeding? =\

Deuce
04-10-2005, 09:01 AM
Looks like Snyder has some problems. How long is he going to last in Utah? Sloan isnt going to put up with that stuff that's for sure.

AroundTheWorld
04-10-2005, 09:30 AM
Snyder seems to be a dumbass punk, just going by circumstantial evidence, of course. It might all just be a coincidence that he is involved in two unfavorable events within such a short time...

Yaomania345
04-10-2005, 10:14 AM
Kirk Synder deserves a contract extension.

Dave2000
04-10-2005, 10:19 AM
dunno why Snyder talks so much crap... then again, maybe schwa can explain since his non-playoff team is sooooo badass....

Raven Lunatic
04-10-2005, 10:39 AM
I would likely lean towards the fault lying at Snyder's feet at the moment. I can't remember anything like this happenign to Stackhouse since he has been in the league and Snyder already has the rep. of being an asshole.

New Jack
04-10-2005, 10:45 AM
Stackhouse once punched Jeff Hornacek during a game against the Jazz. So he has been in an altercation like this before.

Tdogg
04-10-2005, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Yaomania345
Kirk Synder deserves a contract extension.

maybe with an NBDL team ;)

Zboy
04-10-2005, 10:53 AM
Sign this guy up as an enforcer type to play alongside Yao.

HAYJON02
04-10-2005, 11:13 AM
So basically Snyders the perfect Jazz?

Hobbs
04-10-2005, 11:15 AM
Stackhouse beat Christian Laettner on the Pistons' team plane once.

But, really, who hasn't wanted to do that (with or without the plane part).

Given that Stack was with his family, I tend to believe he didn't start it. He's pretty big about family and I don't think he'd put them in the middle of a fight.

tiger0330
04-10-2005, 11:27 AM
Stackhouse, who had traded words with Snyder on the floor during the game, was standing near the entrance to the arena's garage, where the Mavericks players park their cars, and where the Jazz's bus was waiting. As Snyder walked past, according to witnesses, the pair began arguing again, and quickly came to blows.
Snyder was knocked to the concrete floor during the fight, according to one arena security official who witnessed the confrontation but declined to give her name. "They started yelling, and then there were several punches. [Snyder] got hit pretty hard a couple of times," the female security official said. "He was bleeding by the time it was over."

If you talk trash, you better know how to fight, looks like Snyder can't fight. Would hate to see Stackhouse suspended for the playoffs for this but it is pretty serious.

ToothYanker
04-10-2005, 11:32 AM
Enforcers are supposed to win fights. Snyder got the snot beat out of him.

macfan
04-10-2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by tiger0330
If you talk trash, you better know how to fight, looks like Snyder can't fight. Would hate to see Stackhouse suspended for the playoffs for this but it is pretty serious.

Why would you hate to see Stack suspended????
Who cares?

Rashmon
04-10-2005, 01:19 PM
If Snyder is found to be at fault, I wouldn't be surprised if Sloan releases him outright.

emjohn
04-10-2005, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by tiger0330
If you talk trash, you better know how to fight, looks like Snyder can't fight. Would hate to see Stackhouse suspended for the playoffs for this but it is pretty serious. Stern would have a tough time getting that past an arbitrator (and it would go to one - this counts as an off-court incident). Anymore than 5 games isn't all that likely.

I agree that Snyder may be done with the Jazz if he started this, and I'll bet he did.

Evan

R0ckets03
04-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by macfan
Why would you hate to see Stack suspended????
Who cares?

Exaclty. Anything that hurts another team is fine by me.

Uprising
04-10-2005, 02:25 PM
Sloan is not going to put up with this. Bye Bye Snyder.

canoner2002
04-10-2005, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Zboy
Sign this guy up as an enforcer type to play alongside Yao.

Enforcer? Stack beat the crap out of him.

v3.0
04-10-2005, 03:16 PM
And to think he was the draft pick the Jazz got from us...

moestavern19
04-10-2005, 03:19 PM
what a bitch ass punk. Thinks he is Artest or something.

Raven Lunatic
04-10-2005, 03:38 PM
I'm not sure why everyone is assuming Snyder got the crap beat out of him...because he was on the ground at some point? Wasn't Jermaine O'Neal on the ground after he landed that right hook on the fatty during the Pistons/Pacers melee?

Clutch
04-10-2005, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by v3.0
And to think he was the draft pick the Jazz got from us...

Actually Snyder went #16, a pick that Utah got from I think New York. Our pick that Utah got was Pavel Podkolzine at #21... they traded him to Dallas for a future first rounder.

JusBleezy
04-10-2005, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
I'm not sure why everyone is assuming Snyder got the crap beat out of him...because he was on the ground at some point? Wasn't Jermaine O'Neal on the ground after he landed that right hook on the fatty during the Pistons/Pacers melee?

Probably because it says Stackhouse knocked Snyder to the ground. O'Neal slid on the ground and fell after hitting a fan. Two big differences, not hard to figure out really.

AroundTheWorld
04-10-2005, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by JusBleezy
Probably because it says Stackhouse knocked Snyder to the ground. O'Neal slid on the ground and fell after hitting a fan. Two big differences, not hard to figure out really.

Also, it says Snyder was bleeding after the incident.

Raven Lunatic
04-10-2005, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by JusBleezy
Probably because it says Stackhouse knocked Snyder to the ground. O'Neal slid on the ground and fell after hitting a fan. Two big differences, not hard to figure out really.

Bah. I've seen plenty of fights where guys get "knocked to the ground." More often than not, it's because it is two guys that aren't really fighters and one lands a semi punch when one or the other is off balance. I'm not saying Snyder didn't get his ass kicked...but a lot of people are making assumptions based on a report with some serious hearsay. That's not hard to figure out, really.

Rockets34Legend
04-10-2005, 04:25 PM
I think we need to award Stackhouse the next time he comes to Houston for the beating he put on Snyder. That guy is a punk.

RocksMillenium
04-10-2005, 05:19 PM
This is getting ridiculous. Somebody close to Snyder needs to pull him aside and tell him to shut up. Sloan has tried and others have tried, but if he's riling up players to this extent, dropping racial slurs and talking trash during a loss and riling players up to the point of fist fights out back of a building in a parking lot after games then you have some SERIOUS issues. Snyder may not be long for this league with that attitude.

RocksMillenium
04-10-2005, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
I'm not sure why everyone is assuming Snyder got the crap beat out of him...because he was on the ground at some point? Wasn't Jermaine O'Neal on the ground after he landed that right hook on the fatty during the Pistons/Pacers melee?

He was laying down on the ground and bleeding, I would think that is enough reason to believe he got the crap kicked out of him. O'Neal wasn't on the ground bleeding.

KingCheetah
04-10-2005, 05:30 PM
Jerry Stackhouse is cool ~ I wish he was on the Rockets.

SamFisher
04-10-2005, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
Bah. I've seen plenty of fights where guys get "knocked to the ground." More often than not, it's because it is two guys that aren't really fighters and one lands a semi punch when one or the other is off balance. I'm not saying Snyder didn't get his ass kicked...but a lot of people are making assumptions based on a report with some serious hearsay. That's not hard to figure out, really.

Maybe Snyder was attempting a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu leg sweep followed by an armbar.

LegendZ3
04-10-2005, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Rashmon
If Snyder is found to be at fault, I wouldn't be surprised if Sloan releases him outright.

And I wouldn't be suprised if Portland pick him up right after.

francis 4 prez
04-10-2005, 06:58 PM
the difference is jermaine was slipping down in the fan's blood after he hit him while snyder was slipping down in his own. not good.


and that boy stackhouse it my new hero since it looks like he likes to go after jazz players. can flopton come out of retirement real quick for the next spazz/mavs game.

MR. MEOWGI
04-10-2005, 07:37 PM
It was reported in the Houston Chronicle that Snyder doesn't know the words to Happy Birthday.

R0ckets03
04-10-2005, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by MR. MEOWGI
It was reported in the Houston Chronicle that Snyder doesn't know the words to Happy Birthday.

Thats cause nobody wants his punk ass at their birthday parties.

EddieWasSnubbed
04-10-2005, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Rashmon
If Snyder is found to be at fault, I wouldn't be surprised if Sloan releases him outright.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sloan released him tomorrow.

moestavern19
04-10-2005, 11:17 PM
Sooo... Sura/Wes/T-Mac/Snyder/Yao ?

DeAleck
04-11-2005, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by moestavern19
Sooo... Sura/Wes/T-Mac/Snyder/Yao ?

Snyder on the Rockets? Try Steven Hunter instead.

KellyDwyer
04-11-2005, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by KingCheetah
Jerry Stackhouse is cool ~ I wish he was on the Rockets.

Mate, he's beat up Jeff Hornacek, Christian Laettner, and Kirk Snider in his career. Talk about tomato cans.

McMingDynasty
04-11-2005, 06:08 PM
why is this even surprising? goto a local gym and hit up the best court and see how some of those guys play and talk. even at my university some of those school athletes are assholes and totally arrogant.

EddieWasSnubbed
04-11-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by McMingDynasty
why is this even surprising? goto a local gym and hit up the best court and see how some of those guys play and talk. even at my university some of those school athletes are assholes and totally arrogant.

Even at my high school, a lot of the basketball team acts the same way. I guess you could actually say that about most of our sports teams, though...I've always tried to act the exact opposite way, because I hate people like that, though.

rrj_gamz
04-12-2005, 11:35 AM
Dang, i missed the pub...I saw Stackhouse a couple of weeks ago at Sambuca in Dallas...low profile...

vlaurelio
04-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by canoner2002
Enforcer? Stack beat the crap out of him.

thats okay as long as we get to watch fights when the rox play..

vlaurelio
04-12-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by MR. MEOWGI
It was reported in the Houston Chronicle that Snyder doesn't know the words to Happy Birthday.

I bet he knows how to spell "facial and dental reconstructive surgery"