All-purpose whining thread

[Will]

If you're thinking of starting another whining thread, please check one of these boxes instead, so everyone will know what you were going to whine about without actually having to read it.

[rich_argh]

Thanks Will:p

[SamFisher]

Help is on the way!

[SmeggySmeg]

once again Boki gets left out, thanks William :rolleyes:

[LonghornFan]

Where is the "Pizza Hut put black olives on my pie" option? They love to do this to me and I WANNA WHINE ABOUT IT. HERE!

:mad:

[knifejc]

There should be a multiple choice option

[DarkHorse]

At least this was posted exactly 10 minutes before my thread. For a second I was worried that this was a direct response to my whiney thread.

:cool:

That said... ummm... sign me up for why couldn't we have given EG the minimum just for fun.

:)

[SmeggySmeg]

where is all of the above cheese with your whine option

[francis 4 prez]

where was this poll last year? we could've just had:

steve francis sucks

steve francis commits too many turnovers

steve francis is stupid

steve francis hates yao ming

steve francis hates jeff van gundy

steve francis can't shoot

steve francis can't run a break

steve francis dribbles too much

steve francis makes too much

steve francis should be traded

steve francis is worse than chucky atkins

steve francis is ugly

steve francis won't pass yao the ball

all of the above

[isoman2kx]

I can't believe our players use JVG as an excuse.

trying getting a god damn offensive rebound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






end rant.

[room4rentsf]

can we sticky this post? :)

all the whining in one place, i love it! :)

Oh and francis for prez.... let it go dude

[gucci888]

I just don't see what Les/CD are waiting for. We are a terrible team right now and show no promise of getting better.

We just heard JVG say he isn't going to change his style, well, something has to change.

[dragon167]

Will, u miss an option "I am happy Rockets suck as Steve is gone".

[shawn786]

Get JVG a 1 way ticket outa houston ASAP!

[Rockets34Legend]

I wonder if we switch our squad to a run-and-gun team, will Yao be able to keep up? Everytime I watch him, he's so tired. I know he played every single freaking month since he came to Houston, but still....watching him play out there makes me watch to pull out my eye. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad:

[VesceySux]

Van Gundy killed my mother, ran over my dog, and raped my childhood.
Van Gundy started the war in Iraq.
Van Gundy canceled Farscape.
Van Gundy broke up the Beatles.
Van Gundy invented internet spam.
Van Gundy is responsible for the fall of Rome.
Van Gundy made the Astros lose Game 7.
Van Gundy is the driving force behind global warming.
Van Gundy shot JFK.
Van Gundy spread the Black Plague.
Van Gundy created Suddenly Susan.
Van Gundy gave Eve the apple in Eden.
Van Gundy hired the current cast of SNL.
Van Gundy is out to destroy the Houston Rockets.

[Will]

Originally posted by knifejc
There should be a multiple choice option
Sorry, the BBS software can only handle 999,999 votes per poll, so we had to leave out the multiple choice option.

[Rockets34Legend]

Originally posted by VesceySux
Van Gundy killed my mother, ran over my dog, and raped my childhood.
Van Gundy started the war in Iraq.
Van Gundy canceled Farscape.
Van Gundy broke up the Beatles.
Van Gundy invented internet spam.
Van Gundy is responsible for the fall of Rome.
Van Gundy made the Astros lose Game 7.
Van Gundy is the driving force behind global warming.
Van Gundy shot JFK.
Van Gundy spread the Black Plague.
Van Gundy created Suddenly Susan.
Van Gundy gave Eve the apple in Eden.
Van Gundy hired the current cast of SNL.
Van Gundy is out to destroy the Houston Rockets.

Tell us how you really feel... :D :p

[Rocketman95]

Where is the Yao is a big huge hairy vagina option?

I've never been more embarassed to be a fan of a team, ever.

[leroy]

I went with "I can't stand to watch us even when we win." Wins to this point appear to be lucky. We have not seriously outplayed anyone to this point. No matter how you look at it, it's ugly basketball. There are no excuses any more. The coach is the easiest target, right or wrong, and it needs to happen soon.

[The Real Shady]

Originally posted by francis 4 prez
where was this poll last year? we could've just had:

steve francis sucks

steve francis commits too many turnovers

steve francis is stupid

steve francis hates yao ming

steve francis hates jeff van gundy

steve francis can't shoot

steve francis can't run a break

steve francis dribbles too much

steve francis makes too much

steve francis should be traded

steve francis is worse than chucky atkins

steve francis is ugly

steve francis won't pass yao the ball

all of the above

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0519/photo/a_francis_vt.jpg

You just know Francis is getting a nice laugh out of seeing the Rockets fall flat on their faces after trading him.

[shawn786]

Originally posted by The Real Shady
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0519/photo/a_francis_vt.jpg

You just know Francis is getting a nice laugh out of seeing the Rockets fall flat on their faces after trading him.

I bet he is BUT i still stand by the trade... It was a good one if we tank the season or make a run.

[Fegwu]

Western civilization sucks.

Winter sucks.

NASA sucks.

[twhy77]

Man that Chad Ford guy was so right about this trade.


Where's the emoticon where your eyes search the room to see if anyone is grabbing a large metal object with which to pummel you with.

[MR. MEOWGI]

I haven't complained about the Rockets yet at all. The time has come. I know we could be doing better.

Something is definitely really wrong. It's a combo of our players sucking and JVG not coaching to our strengths. Add a boring style of play and KABOOM!!!

I'm not saying I want to get rid of JVG, it just wouldn't upset me if he was gotten rid of.

[Fegwu]

Steve francis sucks baaaad.

steve francis commits too many turnovers

steve francis is stupid and dumb

Steve francis has the lowest IQ of all living NBA players

steve francis hates progress

steve francis can't shoot to save his life

steve francis can't run a break, he has no business in the NBA.

steve francis dribbles too much, he should be making and one tapes

steve francis makes is not a team player.

steve francis should be traded, he is the black hole.

steve francis is worse than chucky atkins, he is a cancer

steve francis is ugly, uglier that popeye jones

steve francis won't pass the ball to anyone but himself and he is still not good at it.


JVG sucks too.

Yao sucks too.

Tmac sucks too.

Free Malick Badiane.

[MR. MEOWGI]

I would still rather have Tmac than Steve. I think he brings much more to the table.

[story_teller]

Originally posted by MR. MEOWGI
I would still rather have Tmac than Steve. I think he brings much more to the table.

Yeah...more losses @ this point. :(

[OmegaSupreme]

need an "other" option for "amare is better than yao". hmmm... while i said that jokingly, i haven't even seen the dude play this year to even doubt him. a more physical kemp?

[RIET]

Originally posted by MR. MEOWGI
I would still rather have Tmac than Steve. I think he brings much more to the table.

I would much rather have TMac, a revitalized Grant Hill, and a promising 18 year old who can rebound.

[LonghornFan]

Maybe we need a "It's all Bush's fault" option? [/sarcasm]

[Rocket River]

Originally posted by dragon167
Will, u miss an option "I am happy Rockets suck as Steve is gone".

or the
"I'm happy steve gone. . not matter what the rockets is like"

six on one hand. ..

Rocket River
I need multiple choices

[disney]

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I feel better......

[Fegwu]

Originally posted by Rocket River
or the
"I'm happy steve gone. . not matter what the rockets is like"

six on one hand. ..

Rocket River
I need multiple choices


I am glad Steve is gone.

Do you want me to state that again?

:p

[daoshi]

If Bush got re-elected after he ran the country into the dumpster with < 4-years, why cannot JVG do the same with the Rockets?

I vote for I can't stand all the whining in here

[ima_drummer2k]

This thread isn't working.

The GARM is in serious meltdown mode.

[twhy77]

Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
This thread isn't working.

The GARM is in serious meltdown mode.


I'm going crazy, I felt like posting a poll that said, do you feel more or less inclined, after the whining thread, to whine?

[SmeggySmeg]

Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
This thread isn't working.

The GARM is in serious meltdown mode.

thats a click for the final option in the poll

[trademarkjb]

Im sick of this. Last year everybody was singing JVG's praises, now everybody wants him gone. Last year it was all Francis' fault, now everybody is blaming T-Mac. WTF people? Open your eyes. Here is the problem...we have a 7'6 center who prefers to shoot 20 foot jumpers, he is not a presence in the post, he cannot rebound, is not a good shot blocker, and cannot take over a game. He has had plenty of time to adjust to the speed of the NBA game. Quit making excuses for Yao, he is never going to be the dominate force everybody thinks he will be. He is the 2nd coming of Rik Smits.

[DaDakota]

I will take a 7'6" center getting 18 and 8 every night, that is WAY better than most centers.

What we need to do is cover up his weaknesses with a PF who compliments his game...one that can rebound and is a quick help defender.

DD

[T_Man]

trademarkjb,

I can agree with you on the fact that Yao is not Hakeem or Shaq. But the fact is, the tool is only as good in how you use it.

So if you try to use a Screwdriver as a Hammer, you will not get the full usage from the tool.

Rick Smits was not that bad when

a) he was healthy.
b) they started utilizing his skills and strength to his advantage.
c) stop trying to make him a traditional center.

T_Man

[Hmm]

I keep saying, that Yao should be utilized more in the mold of Sabonis. A 7'6 finesse center at the top of the key and high post, who can drain a 20ft jumper and can also pass, with that view advantage is better utilized as such instead of making him a constant low post banger.

[hoang17]

our problems don't even start with Yao. Do you want to know our problems, i can name plenty that are ahead of Yao.

1) Our PF's are terrible. When you grab 0 rebounds in 30+ minutes, that's beyond lunacy. In 30 minutes, at least 3-4 rebounds should magically just fall in your lap. This point right here is significantly more important than how Yao is performing. Even if Yao had a 30/15 day, we wouldve still lost.

2) Our PG play. Things do look promising now that Sura is back but signing Ward and Bringing in Lue from Orlando was 2 terrible moves. JVG has a man-crush on ex-knick players and I hate it. They were all overpaid average players that are now overpaid washed up players. Our team besides 1 or 2 guys are terribly slow off the ball and this hurts Yao because he has to cover for that mistakes. There were plenty of able PG's over the offseason that we couldve signed (e.g. Damon Jones) but we had to bring in a washed up, couldn't even get minutes with the spurs last year, Ex-Knick.

3) Our coach. Self explanatory. This fool doesn't trust a lot of people and that to me is what's hurting this team. He has too many people on short leashes and he loves certain players to death. This hurts the development of young players and wears out our older veterans.

I wish Yao was the only problem of this team cause i'll gladly take a 23-24 year old star in the making averaging 18/8 when the offense is mediocre at him gettin him the ball anyways.

[themocitydon]

so what? you guys were bitching and whining when the rockets were winning!!!!!!! so what? this losing season should make no difference in this board.

[acizlan]

lets just hope we will get #1 draftpick this year

[Houstonrocketss]

Someone save this so when we go on a winning streak he can eat crow:p

[acizlan]

Originally posted by trademarkjb
Last year everybody was singing JVG's praises, now everybody wants him gone. Last year it was all Francis' fault, now everybody is blaming T-Mac. WTF people? Open your eyes. Here is the problem...we have a 7'6 center who prefers to shoot 20 foot jumpers, he is not a presence in the post, he cannot rebound, is not a good shot blocker, and cannot take over a game. He has had plenty of time to adjust to the speed of the NBA game. Quit making excuses for Yao, he is never going to be the dominate force everybody thinks he will be. He is the 2nd coming of Rik Smits.

hey, m never a Yao fan. but be honest, Yao is still a lot better than ric smith!

[SmeggySmeg]

the sky is falling

[acizlan]

Originally posted by Houstonrocketss
Someone save this so when we go on a winning streak he can eat crow:p

com'on.....lets hope the best, we will draft that 7-3 lith guy so we will have the tallest frontline in NBA history

[acizlan]

Originally posted by SmeggySmeg
the sky is falling

sigh...never thought the season would end like this

[canoner2002]

my $169 for the league pass was the worst buy of the year.

[Rockets34Legend]

Originally posted by canoner2002
my $169 for the league pass was the worst buy of the year.

It weird, but I have enjoyed the other games more than watching our Rockets play. I really hope they can turn this crap around.

[myco]

Originally posted by canoner2002
my $169 for the league pass was the worst buy of the year.

You and me both dude..i feel your pain.

[ivanyy2000]

Originally posted by canoner2002
my $169 for the league pass was the worst buy of the year.

You already whined it in too many threads.

I feel very good right now. Not resuming my league pass subscription probably is the best decision I made this year.
:p

[SmeggySmeg]

nice merger work mods.. great stuff

[SamFisher]

Does this thread/poll and the state of GARM qualify as life imitating art or vice versa?

Perhaps I should devote a new thread to this important query...

[gucci888]

Originally posted by canoner2002
my $169 for the league pass was the worst buy of the year.

Ha, I feel the same way. But try watching the Magic games, they are unbelievable to watch. The speed, the heart, the winning, everything we are missing. :(

Isn't it sad?

[Rockets2K]

Smeggy....

fascinating study of what happens when you put a gaggle of little agoraphobic Gallus domesticus together in a anonymous internet community.

dontcha think?


;)

[UTmo]

my personal favorites:
Originally posted by VesceySux
Van Gundy created Suddenly Susan.
Van Gundy hired the current cast of SNL.
but really guys, i dont think van gundy means to make the rockets so crappy. he came in and did what he was supposed to do, get a better defensive team. im sure when the rockets organization hired him them knew that we would never be a top scoring team but instead a defensive team, and thats exactly what we have now; a defensive team that absolutely cannot score. we could try someone else and then just become a mediocre defensive team but we get exactly what we paid for...

[gotoloveit2]

Originally posted by Hmm
I keep saying, that Yao should be utilized more in the mold of Sabonis. A 7'6 finesse center at the top of the key and high post, who can drain a 20ft jumper and can also pass, with that view advantage is better utilized as such instead of making him a constant low post banger.

Didnt JVG immediately bench Yao after he put up an airball from the right elbow with 15 seconds left on the clock. :D

[saitou]

Too much choice. I can't decide :confused:

[gotoloveit2]

Originally posted by saitou
Too much choice. I can't decide :confused:

Check them all.

[saitou]

Originally posted by gotoloveit2
Check them all.

It won't let me. :(

[Roc Paint]

Could someone tell me what happen to my favorite team?

[gucci888]

Originally posted by Roc Paint
Could someone tell me what happen to my favorite team?

3 words: Jeff Van Gundy

[mitbbs]

Originally posted by Will
If you're thinking of starting another whining thread, please check one of these boxes instead, so everyone will know what you were going to whine about without actually having to read it.
After the loss to piston, you should add another one: TMac sucks

[pchan]

I believe people would lose their senses when they are acting out of desparation... so I am choosing Phil will solve all the problems...

[basso]

Originally posted by Hmm
I keep saying, that Yao should be utilized more in the mold of Sabonis. A 7'6 finesse center at the top of the key and high post, who can drain a 20ft jumper and can also pass, with that view advantage is better utilized as such instead of making him a constant low post banger.

not to sound like a broken record, but:

Originally posted by Basso
we have one that's 7'6". i've said this before, but yao is not a greta low post player, and i'm not sure he ever will be. just because he 7'6" doesn't mean he belongs on the low block. stick him on the free throw line and run the offense through him from the high post. it's an easier, much quicker entry pass to make, and he'd have a field day feeding T-Mac and Boki as they cut off him. and he's got a very solid "jump" shot from 15-18'.

http://bbs.clutchfans.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87422

[ArtV]

How about those folks like me that see the good in all this like a high draft pick! Wooohooo! Who's the next Nachbar?

[ima_drummer2k]

Turning this thread into a sticky = Classic!

:D

[solid]

Originally posted by VesceySux
Van Gundy killed my mother, ran over my dog, and raped my childhood.
Van Gundy started the war in Iraq.
Van Gundy canceled Farscape.
Van Gundy broke up the Beatles.
Van Gundy invented internet spam.
Van Gundy is responsible for the fall of Rome.
Van Gundy made the Astros lose Game 7.
Van Gundy is the driving force behind global warming.
Van Gundy shot JFK.
Van Gundy spread the Black Plague.
Van Gundy created Suddenly Susan.
Van Gundy gave Eve the apple in Eden.
Van Gundy hired the current cast of SNL.
Van Gundy is out to destroy the Houston Rockets.

Unfortunately, you must add to your list, VG has a longterm contract and is likely going nowhere.

[codell]

Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
Turning this thread into a sticky = Classic!

:D

Definitely agree. BEST. STICKY. EVER.



Too bad most of the posers don't "get it".

[NJRocket]

Thoughts on the Morgue...

The most excitement for me was when a really hot dancer gave my son one of the 800 t shirts that they throw to the crowd. He was so pumped until he realized that the shirt was an adult extra large.

The second most exciting part of the night was when the singer at halftime put on a mini concert with his hit "Turn me on". He probably hasn't preformed in front of an audience that small since he sang for his family at Thanksgiving...good times. The guy who came out of the crowd to sing Rocket Man by Elton John was better.

You know you are in trouble when the public address announcer is PLEADING with people to cheer...and i mean PLEADING!

I know that winning would cure SOME of the Morgue's issues...but you are better off being long Enron stock these days than Rocket tickets (like I am)...at least people would pay you for the stock certs to have as a collectible.

[VesceySux]

Originally posted by solid
Unfortunately, you must add to your list, VG has a longterm contract and is likely going nowhere.

Jesus. Is everyone's sarcasm meter broken?

[ima_drummer2k]

My company just sent out a mass email offering half price tickets to Tuesday's game with the Hornets. I guess even the corporate big-wigs are giving up.

We're thinking of buying some and going to the game with bags over our heads. It would be a great way to be on Sportscenter. ;)

[rubytuesday]

i agree with NJrocket. the best part of my night last night had nothing to do with the game. i sat in my tmac pack seats (they are pretty nice and i was pleased), saw into the tunnel to the locker room before the team came out (saw the guys stretching in there) and got a boki bobblehead (as i am a fan...he's cute!).

but as soon as the game started, it was unbearable. that first possession turnover set the tone for the whole game. the only game i can think of more painful to watch was last december's game against san antonio in which the half time score was 25-30.

observation-sura was really mad. he was the first one into the locker room and on his way in, he knocked over a stand.

i didn't boo the team (just doesn't seem right) but they deserved it.

i'm going to stick by the team no matter what, but i might occasionally be complaining as well.

on the other hand, i really enjoy watching the pistons play.

[tinman]

We need to free Calvin Murphy or he'll end up with Vernon in the slammer.

[Launch Pad]

Originally posted by VesceySux
Van Gundy canceled Farscape.


What?! That b@$+@rd! Let's shoot his @$$ through a wormhole now!

:mad: :o :D

[chuckjl]

I'll whine.

I don't have cable, and I can't watch the games.

Jacques

[Rockets2K]

Originally posted by rubytuesday
i agree with NJrocket. the best part of my night last night had nothing to do with the game.


observation-sura was really mad. he was the first one into the locker room and on his way in, he knocked over a stand.

i didn't boo the team (just doesn't seem right) but they deserved it.

i'm going to stick by the team no matter what, but i might occasionally be complaining as well.


agree...I had a good time at the game myself...and us po folks inthe upper deck dont get jack thrown our way...but what I enjoyed ost was seeing how much fun my kid had at the game....she is a huge Yao fan and this was the first time she has gotten to go to a game.

We were up in the cheap seats yelling all night...

got my Boki bobblehead....tre cool....;)

also agree on the booing....it just didnt seem right....they played badly....like crap even...but I never boo my team...

and to answer the question in chat that I missed.....No...I didnt boo...and never even thought of throwing a beer on court...not that I was drinking anyway...I had my kid with me...

it isnt pretty....and Im not happy or proud of them...but come hell or high water...they are MY team...and I still have faith they will get things worked out soon....one way or the other.



btw Will....you are indeeed a bbs god...finally stickying a thread for everyone to bitch in....long overdue.

unfortunately......like codell says.....they just dont seem to get it. :(

[Hippieloser]

Originally posted by Rockets2K


unfortunately......like codell says.....they just dont seem to get it. :(

Unsurprisingly, we agree.

Oh, and Dude, "they just don't seem to get it" is not the preferred nomenclature. They just don't seem to "get" it, please.

If you ain't down with the needless quotation marks around 'get,' you ain't down with cf.net.

[tierre_brown]

We should have picked Amare instead of Yao.
We should have won the lottery a year later.
We should have traded for Ray Allen instead of TMac when Ray's stock was low and he wanted out ASAP.
We shouldn't have changed our uniforms from the classic colors after winning championships.
We should have kept EG.
We should have beat the Lakers last year in the playoffs.
We should have kpt Cat out of the TMac trade.
We should FREE BOKI and FREE BADIANE and FREE BARRETT!

We should not have let Tierre Brown go:(

[Rockets2K]

Originally posted by Hippieloser
Unsurprisingly, we agree.

Oh, and Dude, "they just don't seem to get it" is not the preferred nomenclature. They just don't seem to "get" it, please.

If you ain't down with the needless quotation marks around 'get,' you ain't down with cf.net.

aaahh...ok

I *get* it.:p





;)

[dugtzu]

i hope this thread means youll immediately lock all other whining threads....great idea if so

im curious what les is thinking right now, if hes happy with the product on the floor. he has 2 stars that look more lost each game- i wonder who he is blaming.....

[Fegwu]

Originally posted by Hmm
I keep saying, that Yao should be utilized more in the mold of Sabonis. A 7'6 finesse center at the top of the key and high post, who can drain a 20ft jumper and can also pass, with that view advantage is better utilized as such instead of making him a constant low post banger.

We been saying this for a long time but can Ming Yao really drain the 20-footer consistently? My answer is not - at least not yet.

So if he cannot drain the 20-footer now consistently doesn't nulify the highpost talks at least for now?

Imho, Yao will be better served scoring more from close range with sky hooks and drop steps in the lane.

Realistically speaking what exactly are Yao's strengths? I am not talking about myths or some outdated scouting report. I am talking about his strengths from what you have seen in the last years.

[Rocket G]

The booing IS called for.

I love this damn team, but I'll be the first to boo when they play like ass. Last night was one of my worst sporting experiences - gameplay wise - ever. It was as depressing as the 2nd half of the Texans-Green Bay game.

It's unbelievable.

Booing though, is our way of letting the players know that WE KNOW they are slacking off, and are capable of much more. It let's the organization know that we are not happy with the play of our "point guard(s)" and the style of play generally.

Keep being polite and watch nothing change. Be vocal and watch them make changes to try to keep people planted in seats.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?

[Uprising]

[basso]

Originally posted by Fegwu
We been saying this for a long time but can Ming Yao really drain the 20-footer consistently? My answer is not - at least not yet.

So if he cannot drain the 20-footer now consistently doesn't nulify the highpost talks at least for now?


high post= free throw line, 15'-ers, not 20'.

[Fegwu]

Originally posted by basso
high post= free throw line, 15'-ers, not 20'.

Okay fine basso. Do you believe he can drain that shot (15-footer) consistently? based on what you have seen from him all these years....

[MoBalls]

I'll never boo my Rockets, but I will go home and cry like an eight year old girl.
We are looking bad.....Im reading Yao's book right now and he needs to go back and read it. Im pissed.

[hotballa]

We never should have traded away SF. If we had simply tried moving him to SG and bringing in a decent PG like Jon Barry or Damon Jones, I woulda lived with the defensive mismatch at SG. Not ike our defense is doing so great right now. This **** is ridiculous. I've been avoiding all things Rox for the last few days now, including the Pistons game. I'm going back to my cave tiull things get better again. Meanwhile, fire JVG :D

[Severe Rockets Fan]

Originally posted by hotballa
We never should have traded away SF. If we had simply tried moving him to SG and bringing in a decent PG like Jon Barry or Damon Jones, I woulda lived with the defensive mismatch at SG. Not ike our defense is doing so great right now. This **** is ridiculous. I've been avoiding all things Rox for the last few days now, including the Pistons game. I'm going back to my cave tiull things get better again. Meanwhile, fire JVG :D
I'm starting to agree, this is pathetic. Cat, Cato, and (ugh) Steve, along with Yao all had a good chemistry compared to this team. I'm sure things will turn around eventually(more because of the fact that we can't get much worse), the rox just need to find out what kind of team they are and work to those strengths instead of doing the same crap over and over again when it's clearly not working.

[rrj_gamz]

LMAO...Great thread...about freakin' time...

Anyway, I can't see the Rox dumping JVG this soon...maybe at the end of the season...

[Stack24]

This was the first time in so long that i can remember the fans start booing at the Toyota Center.

I was embarrassed watching them when they started to just give up the ball left and right and play like the game was over.

It was sad to hear the PA guy try to hype us up with a 14 point deficit.

It was sad to see everyone get up and leave and boo at the same time.

It was sad to hear the Detroit fans in my section screaming at the fans saying "where are you goin!"

This is just a sad day to me in Rockets History.

The defense is fine but im sorry the Offense sucks so bad that McGrady can barely get into double digits these days.

JJ is taking shots left and right and so is everyone else and T-Mac is just turning into a very expensive and highly talented passer. That's all we have got out of him so far.

We need a coaching change or some change in general that is going to unleash the talent we do have on this team.

[Rockets34Legend]

Originally posted by Stack24
This was the first time in so long that i can remember the fans start booing at the Toyota Center.

I was embarrassed watching them when they started to just give up the ball left and right and play like the game was over.

It was sad to hear the PA guy try to hype us up with a 14 point deficit.

It was sad to see everyone get up and leave and boo at the same time.

It was sad to hear the Detroit fans in my section screaming at the fans saying "where are you goin!"

This is just a sad day to me in Rockets History.

The defense is fine but im sorry the Offense sucks so bad that McGrady can barely get into double digits these days.

JJ is taking shots left and right and so is everyone else and T-Mac is just turning into a very expensive and highly talented passer. That's all we have got out of him so far.

We need a coaching change or some change in general that is going to unleash the talent we do have on this team.

It's these loser Knickerbockers we keep picking up that's holding us down. We need to dump them and get some former Rockets to coach this squad.

JVG definitely isn't putting his foot down to take control of this team. It's just getting ridiculous. That so-called defense that was there last year is gone. The offense that was there last year is history.

Yao is suppose to be the Great Wall of China. Instead, he's worse than the backyard fence of Treasures.

[Uprising]

Originally posted by Severe Rockets Fan
I'm starting to agree, this is pathetic. Cat, Cato, and (ugh) Steve, along with Yao all had a good chemistry compared to this team. I'm sure things will turn around eventually(more because of the fact that we can't get much worse), the rox just need to find out what kind of team they are and work to those strengths instead of doing the same crap over and over again when it's clearly not working.

I agree. We had a back court that averaged close to 40pts a game IIRC, and had no problem with rebounding last season with Cato around.

I liked where we were heading last season. The team was exciting, and had so much heart. There is NONE of that now.

[twhy77]

I miss OT. :(

[SwoLy-D]

Wait... somebody actually voted
Fire Jeff Van Gundy and the horse he rode in on ? :D
Anyways, I didn't vote. Homer forever, BABY!
GO ROCKETS!

[T-2]

Yes, I know the purpose of this thread. I'm going to whine anyway.

All started going south after the Posey fiasco. DesertScar, RIET, and maybe one other poster were the only other regulars that sounded the warning bells on this. You get what you pay for. You want a cheap role player, you end up with a mediocre or one-dimensional player (see Pike/Griffin/Ward/Mutombo/Lue/etc.)

Terrible decision then, and our lack of athleticism now makes it a tremendously horrible one. That started the march towards an unathletic, slow-down team. JP would have been capable of filling in the rebounding slack on this team.

It was right after JVG's hiring and while I blamed the owner not the coach, hp replied to stick my head on the block and blame the new coach for the move (still popular at that point). I replied that if JVG is the one making the call, he deserves blame. We can't know for certain, but the personnel moves have continued to be bad, possibly even worse than before.

E. Griffin was another big setback. Perhaps he was going to stick it to us no matter what, but we could have at least used him to our advantage. We heard from veteran posters how terrible he was, so we shouldn't consider soiling our image with his baggage. At least he was capable of the high 10+ rebound game as well as shot blocking to bolster Yao. While I applaud the image considerations, couldn't we have taken the flyer on him (renewing the contract), got his stock back up, then traded him for a useful part later? Now Minnesota has the asset, free of charge.

Keep those two (or trade them) and maybe they win 53+ games last year, SF, Cat and Cato are still here, and we are not having this conversation. Keep Rice for depth last year, hold on to the 1st rounder (and 2nd rounders) we stupidly gave away, and this year we get even better.

A Griffin? Ward and not Damon/Brown/James? The BBS saw these failures a mile away. You can't keep taking other teams' trash and expect great things.

[isoman2kx]

griffin was and still is the biggest risk in sports.

not sure about that.

[T-2]

Disagree.

When you consider the relatively small pay involved, is it really? We should have humored him as long as it would take to trade his sorry rear end somewhere else if he were to keep blowing the team off.

[vwiggin]

We've reached 200 votes for Van Grumpy to get the hell out of Dodge. Keep the faith people, keep the faith.

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Down goes Artest, down goes Artest

[amed]

Originally posted by DaDakota
I will take a 7'6" center getting 18 and 8 every night, that is WAY better than most centers.

What we need to do is cover up his weaknesses with a PF who compliments his game...one that can rebound and is a quick help defender.

DD


I would too, but unfortunatly that 7'6'' center who can get 18 and 8 every night is not on this team. The Rockets are stuck with a 7'6'' pussy who can't play.

[DaDakota]

Amed the booby ! (http://bbs.clutchcity.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87608)

[hotballa]

and amed shows up when the rox struggle. what a shock :rolleyes: