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losttexan
11-03-2004, 02:23 PM
we went to war ( we were told) because iraq was keeping WMDs against the which were not in complience the UN resolution.
We did not have support from the UN or the international community.
So we invade a country that had no connection with terrorists and find no WMDs.
The only reason, i can see, that people are not out-raged is that it's an arab country, and it's people are muslim. They look the same as the murders of 911.
We perpitrated a war of aggression going against the UN and the international community.
Bush should be put on trail for this war not re-elected.
NJRocket
11-03-2004, 02:24 PM
get over it
ima_drummer2k
11-03-2004, 02:28 PM
Many Dems don't understand why Bush won. Ironically, that's exactly why they lost.
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by NJRocket
get over it
get a better excuse.
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
Many Dems don't understand why Bush won. Ironically, that's exactly why they lost.
How true. But I'd be willing to be just as many Republicans don't understand why Bush won, either. :D
NJRocket
11-03-2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by DonnyMost
get a better excuse.
i dont need one...my guy got more votes
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by NJRocket
i dont need one...my guy got more votes
Seriously. That is the most depressing thing I've heard in the past four years.
4chuckie
11-03-2004, 02:31 PM
Iraq was under UN sanctions and would not allow UN inspectors to fulfuill their duty. They were given multiple chances to do them. We went in based on that fact and since we were fighting a war on terror (not Al Queda specifically).
The UN would never have agreed to go in because we could not get France's hand out of Saddma's pocket (notably oil for food scheme).
NJRocket
11-03-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by DonnyMost
Seriously. That is the most depressing thing I've heard in the past four years.
u dont get out much huh?
The Real Shady
11-03-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by NJRocket
i dont need one...my guy got more votes
As Rome would say ............. SCOREBOARD!
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by NJRocket
u dont get out much huh?
Plenty, thanks.
NJRocket
11-03-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by DonnyMost
Plenty, thanks.
if u got out like 2 million more times....and voted each one of them..................................
my guy would still have more votes
Now THATS funny!
whag00
11-03-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
Many Dems don't understand why Bush won. Ironically, that's exactly why they lost.
As a Kerry supporter I think this statement is 100% correct. This party is at a crossroads right now and could be in serious trouble if we don't straighten out soon...
NJRocket
11-03-2004, 02:34 PM
sorry...that was very immature of me....but it was a little funny
RocketMan Tex
11-03-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by losttexan
Bush should be put on trail for this war not re-elected.
The Santa Fe Trail or the Cheyenne Trail?
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:35 PM
Since it seems we're all aboard with the "I won so I getta do whutever da hell I want" argument.
If the Democrats win in 08, I say we invade Australia.
They have hot women.
NJRocket
11-03-2004, 02:35 PM
I'm waiting for andymoon to start a thread blaming the election on the guy who stole the kerry-Edwards sign from his front lawn.
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by NJRocket
I'm waiting for andymoon to start a thread blaming the election on the guy who stole the kerry-Edwards sign from his front lawn.
HA! Now THAT was funny.
Like, seriously dude, that sign had serious electoral implications, man.
losttexan
11-03-2004, 02:38 PM
tyring very here not to be partisan, ok we felt that iraq was not letting the inspectors do there job. ok that is an answer.
but the inspections had worked, no WMDs.
we have only caused more resentment in the middle east and accomplished nothing, but to create a haven for terrorists that they didn't have before.
Do you believe that we are better off?
RocketMan Tex
11-03-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
Many Dems don't understand why Bush won. Ironically, that's exactly why they lost.
I do.
The Dems ran the wrong guy.
The bigger problem is that all but one of the Dems that ran in the primaries were the "wrong guys".
In retrospect, the only one IMHO who could have a solid chance of prevailing over Bush was John Edwards. He has all of the tools necessary to win a Presidential election these days....looks, hair, and the ability to connect to people. Neither Kerry, nore Gore in 2000, had this, and both of them lost in squeakers.
No Worries
11-03-2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by 4chuckie
We went in based on that fact
We went in because GWB wanted to. Remember anyone who is really concerned about Iraqi WMD or lack thereof is an elitist.
nyquil82
11-03-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
Many Dems don't understand why Bush won. Ironically, that's exactly why they lost.
right on, i've spent all day explaining to my left leaning colleagues why it was unlikely that kerry would win. Educated intellectuals have a very difficult time understanding that regular people in the US don't think like them.
DonnyMost
11-03-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by RocketMan Tex
I do.
The Dems ran the wrong guy.
The bigger problem is that all but one of the Dems that ran in the primaries were the "wrong guys".
In retrospect, the only one IMHO who could have a solid chance of prevailing over Bush was John Edwards. He has all of the tools necessary to win a Presidential election these days....looks, hair, and the ability to connect to people. Neither Kerry, nore Gore in 2000, had this, and both of them lost in squeakers.
Edwards would have taken this thing to the house in 2012/16.
No Worries
11-03-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by RocketMan Tex
The Dems ran the wrong guy.
That is a touch harsh. Only 150,000 voters in Ohio decided this election.
I think the Democratic party as a whole are more to blame. Traditional Democratic states like Wisconsin, Florida, and Michigan are becoming tough sells for the Democrats. Voters no longer appear to be connecting with the Democratic party. And to their credit, Republicans have done the better job here.
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