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Lil Pun
10-02-2004, 10:47 AM
How do you take your steak? I always get mine medium rare but it never seems to be bloody/juicy enough for me like I had it one time when I ordered it medium rare. I am thinking about ording my next steak rare. Does anybody else like it like this? Is it safe? If not, what are the health risks? Anyway, how do you take your steak?
Stack24
10-02-2004, 10:53 AM
I really don't know how you guys can eat it like almost raw or bloody. I mean just doens't work well with me.
I need to be cooked all the way or i won't eat it.
Lil Pun
10-02-2004, 10:56 AM
I used to think the same thing until I tried it. But you may have tried it and not liked it.
B-ball freak
10-02-2004, 11:00 AM
Bloody. You ruin meat when you overcook it.
bigtexxx
10-02-2004, 11:00 AM
Slightly wounded.
Dr of Dunk
10-02-2004, 11:25 AM
Medium well is the lowest I'll go.
I've seen people cut into steaks and have blood gushing out of it like some Wild Kingdom episode. That's disgusting. :D
Blatz
10-02-2004, 11:32 AM
It depends on how thick the steak is. If it's real thick (like Outback Steak House) then medium rare and the smaller ones I cook rare.
The last few steaks I've had were really thick so I voted medium rare but I do love my steaks rare.
Oski2005
10-02-2004, 11:35 AM
Usually medium well.
drapg
10-02-2004, 11:36 AM
Even before I converted to vegetarianism, I hated steak.
Oddly enough, I LOVED all other types of meat (hamburger, chicken, fish, pork) but hated steak and found it vulgar.
Go figure.
JPM0016
10-02-2004, 11:37 AM
Bloody steaks just look disgusting. I go Well Done every time.
codell
10-02-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Dr of Dunk
Medium well is the lowest I'll go.
I've seen people cut into steaks and have blood gushing out of it like some Wild Kingdom episode. That's disgusting. :D
Don't be a sissy
KingCheetah
10-02-2004, 11:57 AM
A well done steak = shoe leather.
Medium rare here. :cool:
fadeaway
10-02-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by KingCheetah
A well done steak = shoe leather.
A rare steak = bloody shoe leather.
Medium well for me.
SWTsig
10-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Stack24
I really don't know how you guys can eat it like almost raw or bloody. I mean just doens't work well with me.
I need to be cooked all the way or i won't eat it.
your manliness is in question......
Stack24
10-02-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by B-ball freak
Bloody. You ruin meat when you overcook it.
well if you slow cook it which takes a bit more time...it doesn't ruin it and it stays juicy. It just depends on how you cook it.
Rocketman95
10-02-2004, 12:45 PM
Moooooooo
KaiSeR SoZe
10-02-2004, 12:54 PM
Medium rare, keep chewing
KaiSeR SoZe
10-02-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by drapg
Even before I converted to vegetarianism, I hated steak.
Oddly enough, I LOVED all other types of meat (hamburger, chicken, fish, pork) but hated steak and found it vulgar.
Go figure.
freak!;) :D
Isabel
10-02-2004, 01:36 PM
I don't even like to see any pink in there. I always order well done to make sure. I'm amazed at how many people like it fresh off the cow. Even when I can bring myself to eat the pink meat and hope I don't get sick, it tastes slimy and squishy to me. Gross. I can't imagine how you eat the red kind.
i have mine medium, still looks cooked to me and you get a little red in there too.
arkoe
10-02-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Stack24
I really don't know how you guys can eat it like almost raw or bloody. I mean just doens't work well with me.
I need to be cooked all the way or i won't eat it.
If it's rare I couldn't choke it down if I tried. It's got to be at least medium well.
Lil Pun
10-02-2004, 02:29 PM
Well it shows the majority of voters picked medium rare, now for my other question which has had no responses: is it safe to eat rare steaks?
fadeaway
10-02-2004, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Lil Pun
Well it shows the majority of voters picked medium rare, now for my other question which has had no responses: is it safe to eat rare steaks?
E-coli bacteria only exists on the outside portion of the steak; as long as that part is cooked thoroughly the steak should be okay to eat.
Harrisment
10-02-2004, 03:08 PM
It depends on where I'm at. If I'm at a really nice steakhouse or at home, I'll eat it medium rare. If I'm at a place like Outback, I'll usually go medium. This is only because places like Outback are never consistent with how long they cook it. I've ordered medium before that looked well done, and other times it has been really rare.
Anybody that orders a steak well done should just order a hamburger instead. You're ruining the flavor and wasting your money. You're also losing the respect of everyone around you.. :p
Rashmon
10-02-2004, 03:26 PM
you forgot "Black and Blue" as an option
VesceySux
10-02-2004, 04:20 PM
Rare, please! Or better yet, just put the cow on the table. I'll just help myself.
KingCheetah
10-02-2004, 04:40 PM
I guess some of you don't eat sushi either ~ the only meat that should be served well done is jerky.
Wagyu beef would really freak some of you guys out (it's prepared like tuna). :eek:
i like my steak to stop mooing.
I think i like it when the meat is still pink, but its not soft and rare you know? it's just colored pink, but the meat is cooked through, if that makes any sense.
Severe Rockets Fan
10-02-2004, 05:05 PM
I love my steak well done. A1 sauce gives a little moisture back to the steak and makes it perfect. :D
Severe Rockets Fan
10-02-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by fadeaway
E-coli bacteria only exists on the outside portion of the steak; as long as that part is cooked thoroughly the steak should be okay to eat.
That doesn't sound possible. If you let a steak sit out for a week and then just char the outside quickly and eat it, you'll get sick as hell...I guarantee it.
lpbman
10-02-2004, 05:16 PM
as rare as possible, as long as it isn't cold in the center
arkoe
10-02-2004, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Harrisment
Anybody that orders a steak well done should just order a hamburger instead. You're ruining the flavor and wasting your money. You're also losing the respect of everyone around you.. :p
Which would make the people around me lose their respect for me faster, eating a steak well done or throwing up on the people around me because I ate a steak rare.
I hope you enjoy your bloody dinner.
Dr of Dunk
10-02-2004, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by codell
Don't be a sissy
Go play on your Nerf goal. :D
Dr of Dunk
10-02-2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Kam
I think i like it when the meat is still pink, but its not soft and rare you know? it's just colored pink, but the meat is cooked through, if that makes any sense.
Makes no sense at all Kam, nobody has a clue what you're talking about. Try again. :)
codell
10-02-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Dr of Dunk
Go play on your Nerf goal. :D
I retired from nerf bball thank you very much.
Originally posted by Dr of Dunk
Makes no sense at all Kam, nobody has a clue what you're talking about. Try again. :)
Pink but not needing a tampon.
but it is not raw.
Rip off it's horns, wipe it's ass, throw it on my plate.
Lil Pun
10-02-2004, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Rashmon
you forgot "Black and Blue" as an option
What is "Black and Blue?"
Surfguy
10-02-2004, 07:49 PM
Some of you guys need to get your intestines checked for worms.
:D
Well done for me. I may go medium well next time, though.
Rockets2K
10-02-2004, 08:00 PM
medium(medium well?).....cooked thru but with just a touch of pink in the middle.
rare is digusting.
Im talking Fear Factor disgusting.....
;)
KingCheetah
10-02-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Rockets2K
medium(medium well?).....cooked thru but with just a touch of pink in the middle.
rare is digusting.
Im talking Fear Factor disgusting.....
;)
That would be medium plus I believe.
Originally posted by Rockets2K
medium(medium well?).....cooked thru but with just a touch of pink in the middle.
rare is digusting.
Im talking Fear Factor disgusting.....
;)
That is what I was aiming for.
doc of dunk just gotta be doing stuff like that to me.
LonghornFan
10-02-2004, 08:22 PM
Bloody enough to scare a Tampax is mighty deece.
Rashmon
10-02-2004, 09:19 PM
"Black and Blue" would be slotted in front of rare. Charred outside, cold center.
Beat up and bloodied rather than cooked. Sort of of like Rocky Balboa preparing your slab of beef in a meat locker.
Not necessarily my choice, but I happened to see this option listed recently on a steak menu:
Austin Land and Cattle (http://austinlandandcattlecompany.com/filecabinet/ALCdinnermenu.pdf)
Bailey
10-03-2004, 03:58 AM
Rare. I just love it. I had steak in France when I was about 9, and they brought it out rare, apparently. My parents couldn't believe that I just wolfed it down.
I've even sent back steak in a restaurant when it was over-cooked.
hooroo
10-03-2004, 08:38 AM
However those Argentinian steak houses cook steaks, that's the way!
Lil Pun
10-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by hooroo
However those Argentinian steak houses cook steaks, that's the way!
Anybody know?
Originally posted by Lil Pun
Anybody know?
Yeah, what they do is take the horse out to the back, and fill it full of grains. After they stuff the horse full of grains, they slaughter it.
And damn is that horse tastey.
saitou
10-03-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Surfguy
Some of you guys need to get your intestines checked for worms.
:D
Well done for me. I may go medium well next time, though.
I hope I get some tapeworms to help me maintain my weight.
I like my met rare. I eat most meat raw as I prepare it. I like steak tartar, and I just love to eat the raw hamburger as it cooks. One side browned and the rest still cool. Mmmmm Good! I lived overseas for years and have eaten rare pork in Nigeria, and no I am not worriteed about getting sick from any steak in America.
BYW, the better the quality of meat the more it can be eaten rare. If it is a cheap cut, Ill go to medium rare, because otherwise it is just too chewy.
A lot of nice restaurants will not cook a burger rare anymore. I have learned to order something else. It just isn't the same for me.
Lil Pun
10-04-2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by saitou
I hope I get some tapeworms to help me maintain my weight.
Yeah and they make your ass itch like crazy!
RocketMan Tex
10-04-2004, 07:30 AM
It depends upon the steak.
NY Strip or a Filet.....medium rare
Ribeye....medium well
The more marbled the steak, the more cooked I like it.
Gutter Snipe
10-04-2004, 07:39 AM
I like it seared on the outside, and pink and juicy in the middle. Somewhere between juicy and bloody is perfect.
My wife (from Japan) likes it black and blue - basically if the steak is still a little pulpy(raw?) in the middle, she's happy.
rrj_gamz
10-04-2004, 09:45 AM
I haven't had a good steak in such a long time...yummm...
I may have to go out and get some this week...
Toast
10-04-2004, 09:57 AM
Medium rare - medium depending on the cut.
You guys who turn your steaks into a charcoal make ME sick. Well done. Please :rolleyes: You should just stick to chicken.
Isabel
10-04-2004, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Lil Pun
Yeah and they make your ass itch like crazy!
And you know this because?...
ummm, never mind. :D
buddry
10-04-2004, 10:20 AM
I always order mine barely mooing.
Actually, I usually order mine medium rare, but they are usually overcooked. Been thinking about ordering rare. When we grill at home, they would definetly be considered rare.
Mrs. Valdez
10-04-2004, 11:50 AM
On the health issue, because e. coli is the biggest concern it is generally safe to have rare steak because it is cooked on the outside. It is much less safe to have a medium rare or rare hamburger unless you trim and grind the meat at home.
Lil Pun
10-04-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. Valdez
On the health issue, because e. coli is the biggest concern it is generally safe to have rare steak because it is cooked on the outside. It is much less safe to have a medium rare or rare hamburger unless you trim and grind the meat at home.
I may seem like a dumbass but why is this?
Mrs. Valdez
10-04-2004, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Lil Pun
I may seem like a dumbass but why is this?
E. coli needs oxygen in order to live and reproduce. Unlike some molds you might find on an old piece of cheese, it does not really burrow beneath the surface but stays on the outside. Also, unlike some other food-borne bacteria, e.coli is most dangerous as live bacteria. There are a number of other bacteria that can cause sickness from their waste products (bacterial poop) but this isn't the chief concern here. So all you really needed to do, for the purposes of killing the e.coli is cook the surfaces of your beef.
But ground beef introduces a new problem. You have a piece of beef sitting out on the counter for some amount of time and the bacteria begins growing on it. Then someone feeds it through a (hopefully clean) meat grinder and some of the parts of meat that had been on the outside are now all mixed in on the inside of that beef. If you just take that meat, make it into a patty and cook the outside, any e.coli on the inside is still alive and well.
If you handle the process yourself and trim the meat and grind it quickly in a clean meat grinder, you avoid that risk.
Of course, unless you are particularly vulnerable to death by e.coli or are serving someone who is (such as an elderly grandmother, someone with an at-risk pregnancy, or someone with a comprimised immune system) the worst that can happen to you is a bad case of food poisoning. Restaurants usually try to avoid serving rare hamburgers because of the legal risk if someone does die from it.
Lil Pun
10-04-2004, 01:51 PM
Great breakdown Mrs. Valdez but what about worms (tapeworms, roundworms, etc.) in the steak?
Mrs. Valdez
10-04-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Lil Pun
Great breakdown Mrs. Valdez but what about worms (tapeworms, roundworms, etc.) in the steak?
Beef has never been prone to worms. Ground beef has been linked to trichinosis (round worms that can get into pork) because pork is sometimes added to it. Trichinosis is found in humans, pigs, rats, and wild game (like bears and walrus). It used to be a big problem with pigs because they were often fed all kinds of scraps including pork. Most commercial farms now feed their pigs grains and this has greatly reduced the risk but not entirely eliminated it. Thuroughly cooking your pork should eliminate that risk. Of course, it also makes for a tough pork chop.
There is a similar parasite that is in some fish so if you are worried about it, you may wish to be careful about your sushi.
saitou
10-05-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Mrs. Valdez
Beef has never been prone to worms. Ground beef has been linked to trichinosis (round worms that can get into pork) because pork is sometimes added to it. Trichinosis is found in humans, pigs, rats, and wild game (like bears and walrus). It used to be a big problem with pigs because they were often fed all kinds of scraps including pork. Most commercial farms now feed their pigs grains and this has greatly reduced the risk but not entirely eliminated it. Thuroughly cooking your pork should eliminate that risk. Of course, it also makes for a tough pork chop.
There is a similar parasite that is in some fish so if you are worried about it, you may wish to be careful about your sushi.
Wow. Thanks for the info. Another question, how do people get tapeworms?
AGBee
10-05-2004, 03:06 PM
According to "Kitchen Confidential" (pretty good read), never get a well-done steak (or fish on Mondays).
meggoleggo
10-05-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by saitou
Wow. Thanks for the info. Another question, how do people get tapeworms?
People don't generally get tapeworms. It's a big problem with dogs, but unless you find some way to contaminate yourself(like accidentally swallowing a flea), it's a pretty hard thing to get.
But there's another type of tapeworm that comes from sushi and undercooked fish.
Basically, as long as we exist, we will be haunted by the threat of something invading our bodies and taking us hostage. And on that note, I like my steaks medium-medium rare depending on where I go.
Supermac34
10-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Hamburger is "floor meat"...they sweep it up off the floor and grind it...that is why you should eat it well done.
Steak is cut and boxed, should be ok to eat rare.
Lil Pun
10-05-2004, 04:58 PM
I still order my burgers medium, as somebody mentioned when ordering a burger they have never let me get it medium rare.
raw10628
10-11-2004, 12:02 AM
As far as steak goes it's gotta be rare (knock off its horns, wipe it's ass and bring it to me, kinda rare), slightly seasoned, with no sauces. I think most sauces ruin the true taste of the meat. Steak is my favorite thing to eat though too. For some reason I can't stand when people eat ketchup or some other sauce with their steak. Just a personal preference. I think the flavor of most steaks is too good to ruin with some kind of sauce. Obviously I like to eat meat just a little.
I cook all meats besides steak well though. Once question I have is about pork. I have heard varied things about cooking pork. Some have told me that you should never under cook pork, then I have heard from others that it is ok to cook pork about medium rare. Anyone know anything about pork?
arkoe
10-11-2004, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by raw10628
As far as steak goes it's gotta be rare (knock off its horns, wipe it's ass and bring it to me, kinda rare)
That explains your nick.
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