Oakland (2-1) @ Texans (1-2)

[Castor27]

Noon on CBS

[Groogrux]

3-0

I have the Raiders D and I desperately need a win this week. Of course, I'd take 81-0 and a fantasy loss over a Texans' loss any day of the week.

[rrj_gamz]

Oakland was pretty good on Sunday, and will be better with Collins at QB...The Texans should have momentum from the KC win...

Texans: 24

Raiders: 17

Go Texans!!!

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Raiders don't really have any serious weapons. This is a winnable game.

[RocketManJosh]

Texans: 24
Raiders: 10

At least you guys don't have to dodge the bullets and knives of the Radier Nation like we do here in SoCal ... Lets hope the Texans put them in their place

[rockets-#1]

The Texans are feeling confident again and Oakland doesn't really have anything too special about their team. I'm a little scared of what Sapp might do, but other than that, I think this is easily either team's game to win.

[Lil Francis]

Texans 24
Raiders 21

I think the Raiders will shutdown our running game but the offense will find a way to pull this out at home. The Raiders have the best special team duo in the NFL (Buchcanon,Gabriel) so watch out for them. Woodson vs Johnson should be fun to watch also.

[leroy420]

Carr can (have the option to) cut his hair


Texans 27
Raiders 17

[SwoLy-D]

Give me the TeXaNs for 99,999 and the L.A. Ride-ons for 1 (is this even possible?)

But, seriously, folks...

Texans 34
Raiders 19

[JPM0016]

The raiders just aren't very good.

Texans - 24

Raiders - 13

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Texans 21 Raiders 17

[MadMax]

Texans - 31

Raiders - 20

evening up at 2-2 would be really nice.

[nWo34Life]

I would love the Texans to win, but I think they can't hold back that pass and rush defense.

Raiders 24
Texans 17

[shawn786]

Raiders 24
Texans 17
(I fergot to add my :( )

[moestavern19]

I want to you all to remember some names for this sunday.

Danny Clark.

Ronald Curry.

Doug Gabriel.


Goooooood, you'll be seeing a lot of them.

Will the Raiders win? Possibly, but it won't be easy against a team that for the most part, runs the same defensive scheme as they do.
What you'll see from the Raiders is a lot of different schemes, with players changing positions, a lot of blitzing, and not just from the LBs, Woodson will probably be sent 2-3 times.

I think Charles Woodson has allowed 1 reception this season so far, but I'm sure Andre will be able to make a few nice moves and free himself up, I wouldn't look for him to have a huge day though, unless he is working zone over the top.

The Raiders running game is suffering, Wheatley and Fargas have been highly innefective until last week when Wheatley was able to get 100 yards vs a stout Tampa Bay Defense. The Texans will probably have little trouble containing the running game. I doubt they will be able to get much pressue on Collins though, the pass protection for the Raiders has been superb in recent weeks.

Domanick Davis will not be able to run the ball against the Raiders very well, but he should be able to catch passes out of the backfield. If I had to predict a big game from anyone on Houston I'd Say one of the WRs other than Johnson should be able to beat our weak safeties deep and make some long catches. I'd look for Armstrong or Bradford to try and take advantage of the coverage early and often.

Special teams plays an important factor in many games, Phillip Buchanon is a dangerous return man with blazing speed and a knack for making the big play, he has scored 7 TDs in just 22 games from the CB position. Shane Lechler is the NFL's finest punter and he will pin you deep down in your own territory. Janikowski has finally developed into an accurate kicker, although he'll never be worth a 1st round pick. Stanley is among the league's best in punts inside the 20, so field position will probably be issues for both teams early on.

You will notice the Raiders will alternate their WR packages, You'll see Jerry Rice and Jerry Porter early on, and later on Rice will be replaced by guys like Curry and Gabriel. Alvis Whitted is also an option with his olympic speed. Kerry Collins has a much stronger arm than Gannon, and he will look deep often, especially for Gabriel. He is not as conservative as Gannon however, and will force a few throws and make a couple bad decisions.

Overall... The Raiders have not won on the road since 2002, and will have some trouble against a Texans team that will exploit both our weaknesses. I see a decent day for both offenses, mainly on the passing side with both QBs possibly topping 300 yards. Texans will probably win on a late drive and FG, as has been the case in seemingly all our road losses.

Texans 31
Raiders 28

[ROCKSS]

I like the Texans, but I see the Raiders winning this one. Kerry Collins bring a different dimension to this team and I see him having a big game against the Texans secondary

Raiders: 17
Texans: 10

[Icehouse]

Just heard David might be out, with Hollings in? Any update on how long Davis is out?

[moestavern19]

Domanick Davis didn't practice today but he should still play, Hollings is out for the season and Jonathan Wells is the backup.


damn, what team am I a fan of again?

[JPM0016]

Originally posted by moestavern19
Hollings is out for the season

Did i miss something?

[Lil Francis]

Originally posted by moestavern19
Domanick Davis didn't practice today but he should still play, Hollings is out for the season and Jonathan Wells is the backup.


damn, what team am I a fan of again? Hollings out for the season????? Where did you see that??

[Castor27]

Originally posted by moestavern19
Domanick Davis didn't practice today but he should still play, Hollings is out for the season and Jonathan Wells is the backup.


damn, what team am I a fan of again?

Umm. must have been a short season. Hollings practiced Wednesday and is listed as probable. Davis is still listed as questionable, but is expected to play.

[Raven Lunatic]

Whoa that scared the hell ou of me about Hollings. I was worried I had missed a report somewhere. I think the Raiders win a close one. The Texans will be just a little too cocky after having won last week and will start the game with too little intensity.

[Stack24]

Texans should win this one 21 - 17

[thegary]

Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
The Texans will be just a little too cocky after having won last week

i highly doubt that

[Lil Francis]

I just saw on "Texans Inside the Huddle" that Dom Davis is out for Sunday's game. Our running game is going to suck this week. I don't have any faith in Hollings and Wells so im looking for a huge game out of Gaffney and Dre.

[moestavern19]

Great, you deal with these pessimistic texan fans in the chat room and when Hollings goes down they tell me he won't be back this year. Guess Holllings is playing on sunday.

I don't really think Hollings is that great, you could have gotten the 33rd pick in this last draft if you wouldn't have taken him.

[Phillyrocket]

Originally posted by moestavern19

I don't really think Hollings is that great, you could have gotten the 33rd pick in this last draft if you wouldn't have taken him.

This has been discussed to death but.... look the second round pick was not thought to be that high when the decision was made. The Raiders were coming off a superbowl season and were expected to do just as well. Instead they tanked and suddenly that pick looks like gold. Also no one expected DD to contribute the way he has. Couple those factors together and suddenly Hollings looks like a blown pick. However if the Raiders had made the playoffs and DD just turned out to be a kick returner third down type back, we'd all be singing a different tune.

Give Hollings a little more time and take off those hindsight glasses.

Texans 30
Raiders 21

[Tdogg]

In my heart I want the Texans to come away with a victory, but I just think that the Oakland Defense will be able to put enough pressure on Carr that we are not going to win. Although I do not expect a lop sided victory, I just can't see the Texans winning this weekend.

p.s. - I also picked them to lose last weekend... So I am hoping that if a ifollow my same pesimistic trend that they might pull the upset again. (Crossing-fingers) ;)

[moestavern19]

Originally posted by Phillyrocket
This has been discussed to death but.... look the second round pick was not thought to be that high when the decision was made. The Raiders were coming off a superbowl season and were expected to do just as well. Instead they tanked and suddenly that pick looks like gold. Also no one expected DD to contribute the way he has. Couple those factors together and suddenly Hollings looks like a blown pick. However if the Raiders had made the playoffs and DD just turned out to be a kick returner third down type back, we'd all be singing a different tune.

Give Hollings a little more time and take off those hindsight glasses.

Texans 30
Raiders 21

That Really has nothing to do with it, you can make excuses all you want but I just don't think he's a good running back at all and I wouldn't have wasted a 4th rounder on him much less a 2nd.

[Joshfast]

Originally posted by moestavern19
That Really has nothing to do with it, you can make excuses all you want but I just don't think he's a good running back at all and I wouldn't have wasted a 4th rounder on him much less a 2nd.

Texans organization > moetavern's opinion

Have to go with the Texans braintrust on this one. I also haven't seen Hollings enough to have such a strong stance on a subject.
Maybe we can give him a couple full games as the feature back in the regular season before we say he's a bust.

[moestavern19]

Originally posted by smashfast
Texans organization > moetavern's opinion

Have to go with the Texans braintrust on this one. I also haven't seen Hollings enough to have such a strong stance on a subject.
Maybe we can give him a couple full games as the feature back in the regular season before we say he's a bust.

Haha, you aren't related to The Cat by any chance are you?

My Opinion > Everything.

Casserly made a pretty stupid move with Hollings, but hey at least he did get you that top 10 pick for Drew Henson.

[Phillyrocket]

Originally posted by moestavern19
Haha, you aren't related to The Cat by any chance are you?

My Opinion > Everything.

Casserly made a pretty stupid move with Hollings, but hey at least he did get you that top 10 pick for Drew Henson.

Also the pick was a third rounder that we traded to the Raiders for a second rounder the following year. So essentially it was a mid third round pick not this golden top of the second round choice. And that third round choice may have come from a previous trade as well someone with more time or a better memory would have to confirm this.

Ultimately to me I'm glad the Texans have the sack to take a few chances. Boselli didn't work out, Hollings remains to be seen, but the Henson and the Milford Brown decisions I think were good. Point being the team takes chances and good or bad at least they're not sitting on their hands. It makes following the team fun and interesting. Isn't that the point?

[codell]

Texans stop them on 3rd down.

We blitzed them alot on that series. Nice to see.

[codell]

boy, these announcers are going on and on and on and on about how great Kerry Collins is

[codell]

haha

Janikowski missed an easy one :D

[KaiSeR SoZe]

where's DD?

[RocketsPimp]

any radio links?

[drapg]

Originally posted by KaiSeR SoZe
where's DD?

Injured last week.

Not playing this week.

Hollings + Wells.

Oh, and I picked up OAK's DEF for my fantasy team just minutes before game time.

Too... much... emotional... conflict.

[codell]

ANOTHER FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!

[isoman2kx]

you've got......... to be........kidding me.
another ****ing fumble!!!!!

[Behad]

I picked up Johnathon Wells just before game time...and I was loving his start, til he FREAKIN FUMBLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[SWTsig]

HELL YEAH!!!!

[Behad]

TD Sharper!!!


On my fantasy team!

[bigballerj]

YESSSS!!!! TOUCHDOWN!!!

[drapg]

I don't think it sticks.

[bigballerj]

Uh oh, They may overturn that. :(

[Remix]

RULING STANDS!!!!!!!

[bigballerj]

Originally posted by bigballerj
Uh oh, They may overturn that. :(


NEVERMIND :D :D :D

[codell]

from that 2nd angle, it didn't look like Collins arm had started forward

[codell]

Brent Jones just needs to get it over with and come out and admit that hes a closet Raider fan.

[Behad]

That was a horrible spot on that ball.

[Raven Lunatic]

I can't believe they didn't just do a QB sneak right there.

[Remix]

WTF!!!! ARON GLENE TRIPPED!!!?!!?

[drapg]

crap

[Nick]

Gaffney and AJ are going to lead us today.

[bigballerj]

Looks like DD's injury was the best thing to happen to the Texan's offense.


TOUCHDOWN!!!

[Behad]

Do they make these rules up on the spot?????????

[Remix]

I dont understand the rule where Hollings fumbled. Since the play was dead when he picked it up which i dont understand at all, shouldnt we have gotten 6-7 secs back on the clock?

[codell]

boy that is a cheap cheap call

[Behad]

Originally posted by codell
boy that is a cheap cheap call

yeah, but I think it was correct

[codell]

Originally posted by Behad
yeah, but I think it was correct

i didn't say it wasn't correct....just cheap

[Remix]

I dont understand. Why arent we chucking the ball the andre Johnson? why dont we just let him make plays, DD is out, Bradford is out and now possibly Hollings.WHY?!?!

[codell]

What's Oakland's 3rd down conversion rate today?

[KaiSeR SoZe]

DUNTA!!! DUNTA!!

[Remix]

Robinson first career INT!!!

[Behad]

DR with his 1st career INT!

[JPM0016]

Dante Robinson INT!!!

[Remix]

WTF kind of playcalling is that?!!?!?!!?

[jelanit]

this is ridiculous play calling

[JPM0016]

What the hell??? I don't like to criticize play calling but that was flat out STUPID.

[qwerty]

For 2+ years, I have given Chris Palmer the benefit of the doubt.
But his playcalling in this goal-line situation was unforgviable.

[PhiSlammaJamma]

I didn't even see it and it was stupid to me.

[Nick]

Okay.... does Chris Palmer have J. Wells on his fantasy team or something?!?

AWFUL play calling... bring in Scrap Iron to coach the offense.

[bigballerj]

WTF! :mad: 3 Straight running plays? C'mon :mad:

[qwerty]

Maybe Palmer has Jonathan Wells on his fantasy team and really wanted him to get a TD. That's the only semi-feasable reasoning I can think of.

[hoang17]

can somebody give me the recap on dunta's INT?

was watchin the stros game, prolly like a lot of ppl

[Nick]

Originally posted by qwerty
Maybe Palmer has Jonathan Wells on his fantasy team and really wanted him to get a TD. That's the only semi-feasable reasoning I can think of.

Haha... nice echo qwerty.

[bigballerj]

The Raider's O-Line was scared sh!tless on that play! LOL

[codell]

haha

Carr outran Sapp

[RocketsPimp]

Fumble!!!

[Nick]

15 minutes till first back-to-back wins.

If they get a TD here, book-it.

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Palmer used Wells perfectly last series, to, set up, yet another field goal on this one. LOL.

[macalu]

Originally posted by Nick
Okay.... does Chris Palmer have J. Wells on his fantasy team or something?!?

AWFUL play calling... bring in Scrap Iron to coach the offense.

i hate palmer too but doesn't Capers give the OK for the play call? they both suck if that's the case.

[Nick]

Carr to AJ!!!!!!


TOUCHDOWN!!!

[JPM0016]

Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PhiSlammaJamma]

woooo hoooo!

[ima_drummer2k]

Originally posted by qwerty
For 2+ years, I have given Chris Palmer the benefit of the doubt.
But his playcalling in this goal-line situation was unforgviable.
Yep.

We might as well have just kicked the FG on first down...

Horrible.

EDIT: Man, I keep missing the good plays because I'm switching back and forth to the 'Stros! :mad:

[adw]

WHOOOOOO :D

[PhiSlammaJamma]

This win goes out to the city of Los Angeles.

[Nick]

Originally posted by PhiSlammaJamma
This win goes out to the city of Los Angeles.

Definitely... we owe them one big time for yesterday.

Cincy's present is in the mail...

[Uprising]

WOW! I am so loving this! Go Texans! Great game so far.

Got the Stros on my tv, and the Texans on my pc.

Gotta love it, 2 sold out stadiums in downtown Houston. Both teams on their way to win. Both going to clinch something, Texans first 2 game winning streak.

BRING OUT THE Clippers!!!

[Remix]

FAGGINS INT!!!!!!

[codell]

INTERCEPTION TEXANS!!!!!

[Nick]

Wow... what a play.

Collins left a floater.

[adw]

Whooooo :D

[Uprising]

:D Nice pick.

[Stevierebel]

Just send Johnson long down the sideline...

[Behad]

Someone stick something in Brent Jones' mouth.

[codell]

wow

Brent Jones seemed upset at that call

what a shocker

[Remix]

Whos that announcer that just said all that pass interference crap?

[bigballerj]

Originally posted by Behad
Someone stick something in Brent Jones' mouth.

Brent Jones aka Raider Fan needs to give it a rest. The play is over.

[macalu]

i don't like this prevent offense. they need to attack instead of just playing to run the clock out.

[codell]

the sad thing is, Jones isn't even trying to hide the fact that he is rooting for the Raiders

normally, announcer bias doesn't bother me, but Jones is pretty over the top today

[codell]

wow

what a run and catch by Johnson

[unt2003]

AJ = god?
wow, just juked that CB

[JPM0016]

Originally posted by codell
the sad thing is, Jones isn't even trying to hide the fact that he is rooting for the Raiders

normally, announcer bias doesn't bother me, but Jones is pretty over the top today

How can a guy who played for the 49ers root for the cross the bay rival.

[codell]

this might be AJ's coming out party

[bigballerj]

Originally posted by macalu
i don't like this prevent offense. they need to attack instead of just playing to run the clock out.

So far the Prevent Offense is working quite nicely. :)

[NewRoxFan]

Could Brent Jones and the CBS coverage be any more biased towards the Raiders? Not just Jones' whining about calls, but showing Buchanon's rap video, then saying "Raiders just need two TDs, and a quick one now." I suspect he had to make sure he didn't say "All WE need..."

[rockets-#1]

I LOVE ANDRE! I LOVE CARR! I LOVE THE TEXANS!!!

THE RAIDERS ARE PLAYING LIKE TOTAL CRAP, RELIANT MUST BE LOUD! SO UGLY

IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE A HARDCORE HOUSTON TEXANS, ASTROS, AND ROCKETS FAN! WOO!




EDIT: Sorry for the caps, but I'm just really pumped up!

[Remix]

Robinson 2nd career INT!!!!1

[rockets-#1]

WOOOOOOOOO

DUNTA ROBINSON, #1 DRAFT PICK, WOOOOOOOOO!

ANOTHER INT BY THE ROOK, SO AWESOME!

[JPM0016]

game over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Robinson; and a great block by Andre Johnson

[codell]

holy cow

Johnson LEVELED that Raider!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hoang17]

Anybody see Andre lay that fool down!!!!

hahah talk bout a pancake!!

[bigballerj]

Originally posted by JPM0016
game over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Robinson; and a great block by Andre Johnson


No kidding! He knocked that guy's helmet off with that block! :D



GAME OVER!!! TIME TO BREAK OUT THE CLIPPERS!!!:D :D :D

[RocketFan007]

I think that was #30 Simmons, not AJ on the block.

[Nick]

I missed it... why was Johnson playing defense?!?

[Kam]

johnson does not play D

brent jones got hit in the head too many times

[unt2003]

umm andre johnson plays offense
u are stupid brett jones....

[codell]

doh!!!

Andre Johnson doesn't play defense :o

[Nick]

One too many from the bottle today for Jones.

Dunta is showing improvement... I'm liking it.

[JPM0016]

Originally posted by Kam
johnson does not play D

brent jones got hit in the head too many times

Haha, thought it sounded a little strange when i heard it

[Nick]

Back-to-back wins!!!

You can tell that half the stadium has left to go catch the rest of the Astros game.

[codell]

im glad Collins had a ****ty day

listening to Brent Jones, you would have thought that Joe Montana himself was out there starting for the Raiders today

[macalu]

Originally posted by bigballerj
So far the Prevent Offense is working quite nicely. :)

lol, well, it wasn't prevent offense when they started throwing to AJ. i just didn't liek the feel of run, run, run.

[JPM0016]

David's dad looks like the average Springer guest

[Uprising]

WOW, this has been great. Awesome win.

Robinson rules!

HAHAHAHA! Eat it Raider fan announcer! WHOOOP! :D

[JPM0016]

Have the Texans ever scored 30 points in a game? I know they've come close a few times

[Remix]

Nope, there highest was 27 which was tied a few times. Great day :D

[rockets-#1]

GOOOOOO TEXANSSSSSS!!!

Haircuts for my favorite player and his dad!

Bring on the Vikings.

[Uprising]

It's go time baby! :D

[Jebus]

Man.. Those losses against the Chargers and Lions really hurt now..


nice win for the Texans!!

[Stack24]

Yeah it was SImmons with the great block...and hey we should give some credit to J Wells as well....100 yards rushing and a touchdown....

[Kam]

great win for the Texans.


That win pumps me up. I am looking forward to next sunday.

Great day in Houston Sports overall.

I can't wait for basketball season to start.

[Joshfast]

Originally posted by Jebus
Man.. Those losses against the Chargers and Lions really hurt now..


I think San Diego is a little better then people think. They are beating the Titans pretty well right now 31-17

[12345]

Originally posted by smashfast
I think San Diego is a little better then people think. They are beating the Titans pretty well right now 31-17

The Titans don't have Steve McNair right now.

[Jebus]

Originally posted by smashfast
I think San Diego is a little better then people think. They are beating the Titans pretty well right now 31-17

I was thinking the same thing, but then I saw that

Originally posted by 12345
The Titans don't have Steve McNair right now.

Sorry, I guess this was a pointless post.

[Joshfast]

Originally posted by 12345
The Titans don't have Steve McNair right now.

I think the Chargers are playing well enough that they would have still won if McNair was in. They CAN'T stop the run at all.

[moestavern19]

Good game from the Texans, Raiders again play like absolute **** on the road. Total domination in the 2nd half.

Good luck texans, you have a bright future.

[DieHard Rocket]

Best game Chris Palmer has called all season, maybe in his Texans career (except for running three times inside the 10 yard line).

I think because DD was out, they actually used the HB to RUN and the WR's to PASS...the screens were going to Andre more, and he does a lot more with those than our HB's do, as well as catching those slants.

I've been saying it all season...get Andre the ball and nothing but good things will happen for this offense. He's to big, strong, and fast to be stopped.

[Lil Francis]

Great game by the Texans. If I was Capers I would think about letting Dunta Robinson return punts because he is a threat to score everytime he touches the ball. He reminds me alot of Phillip Buchcanon. I don't think he will be a shutdown corner but the guy can make plays.

[Joe Joe]

Originally posted by Lil Francis
Great game by the Texans. If I was Capers I would think about letting Dunta Robinson return punts because he is a threat to score everytime he touches the ball. He reminds me alot of Phillip Buchcanon. I don't think he will be a shutdown corner but the guy can make plays.

Paraphrase warning....Capers said something of the effect that D'angelos Hall's return ability was worthg zero because he wouldn't risk a starting CB returning kicks.

[LongTimeFan]

Originally posted by Joe Joe
Paraphrase warning....Capers said something of the effect that D'angelos Hall's return ability was worthg zero because he wouldn't risk a starting CB returning kicks.

You mean dante?

[Groogrux]

Originally posted by LongTimeFan
You mean dante?

I think he meant Capers was talking about Hall's perceived value over Robinson because he is an excellent punt returner.

[Lil Francis]

Originally posted by Joe Joe
Paraphrase warning....Capers said something of the effect that D'angelos Hall's return ability was worthg zero because he wouldn't risk a starting CB returning kicks. I don't really agree with that. I know he is the coach so he can do what he wants but when you have a playmaker like Dunta on the team you need to put that guy on the field as much as you can. I would leave JJ on kickoffs and put Dunta on the punt returns.

[LongTimeFan]

DUH... dante? :confused: Dunta! Man.. talk about a weird name ;)

[JamesC]

I was amazed at how many false starts the Raiders had. Didnt they have like 8 or 9 false starts? I'm not complaining though, my team won.

[MadMax]

2-2 after 4 games is about what i expected. great game.

[ROCKSS]

Excellent win for the Texans. The play calling looked much better, and the O-Line played excellent......Good Luck the rest of the way!!

[rrj_gamz]

Great game....I can't believe how the D came through...Its amazing how everything came together...2-2, just what I expected, altough I thought we'd win the first two wand lose the next two...

Go Texans!!!

[Raven Lunatic]

Well, Woodson may have shut Moss down, but he didn't do much to Andre. I especially enjoyed that first quick side pass where Johnson juked Woodson so bad he almost didn't even get a finger on him as he blew right by.

Andre is the man.

[Lil Francis]

Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
Well, Woodson may have shut Moss down, but he didn't do much to Andre. I especially enjoyed that first quick side pass where Johnson juked Woodson so bad he almost didn't even get a finger on him as he blew right by.

Andre is the man. I think by year 4 he will be in the same class as Moss, T.O. and Harrison.