Dodgers @ Astros

[Castor27]

7-19 -- Wilson Alvarez (4-3, 3.51) vs. Brandon Duckworth (1-2, 7.53) 7:05 on FSSW/ESPN

7-20 -- Jeff Weaver (6-9, 4.25) vs. Pete Munro (2-3, 4.45) 7:05 on FSSW

[Austin70]

L L, have said W too many times and was wrong, this is the time I want to be wrong. I hope we made some break through yesterday not leaving many LOB.

[JPM0016]

ugh... relying on Duckworth, Munroe and a weak bullpen to get back on track. I hope the offense wakes up otherwise it could be a long 2 games.

LW

[gunn]

Hopefully our offense can catch some fire behind their bats; if they don't, we'll make these weak pitchers look like Cy Young canidates.......again.

I'll remain cautiously optimistic....

LW

[ArtV]

When do we play Montreal...at MMP?

[DaDakota]

LL

DD

[Groogrux]

WW

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Sweep. Get the brooms out. Stros WW

[NJRocket]

I'm going tonight and they are undefeated (4-0) when I go so W for sure tonight!

[leroy420]

WW







Oh for the love of Jebus, please let us sweep someone!!!

[Jebus]

Originally posted by leroy420

Oh for the love of Jebus, please let us sweep someone!!!

sorry, not this time.

Dodgers have won 13 of the last 14.

We all know how the stros have been playing.

LL

[whag00]

LL - let's not kid ourselves

[Fegwu]

Game one

Stros = 7

LA = 5



Game two

Stros = 10

LA = 3

[rrj_gamz]

I say we split...We need both wins, but I just don't see it happening...

Unless Garner lights a fire under the bats...

[leroy420]

Originally posted by Jebus
sorry, not this time.

Dodgers have won 13 of the last 14.

We all know how the stros have been playing.

LL

Damn you!

[JPM0016]

on a positive note; The Marlins went 1-6 or 1-7 with Jack McKeon before they got on a roll :)

[Jameson Paulz]

Does anyone know when we are getting Wade Miller back?

[Surfguy]

I'm an eternal optimist.

LL

:D

[red]

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLLWWWWW

[Uprising]

LW....ugh.

HR.

1-0 Dodgers....and that is followed by a double. Come on Astros...pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.

[bigboymumu]

Happy thoughts. Happy thoughts. I hope that sinkers sinks for Ducky!

[RocketManJosh]

Wow an second baseman's error that actually HELPS the Stros

Things really ARE turning around ;)

[Elienator]

Nice bottom of the second by the astros. 3 Runs, only one hit. Finally, taking advantage of the other teams mistakes and this should hopefully be a confidence boost to Duckworth.

[Uprising]

damnit...I picked the worst time to leave the tv...crap!

[Surfguy]

What the hell was Beltran doing? He's taking his time and the runner reads it extending it to a double. Fool.

[Groogrux]

Originally posted by Surfguy
What the hell was Beltran doing? He's taking his time and the runner reads it extending it to a double. Fool.

He's done that twice now in the last few games (lollygagging I mean).

[RocketManJosh]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
He's done that twice now in the last few games (lollygagging I mean).

Actually he did it twice in one game, and now he's done it again.

[bigboymumu]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
He's done that twice now in the last few games (lollygagging I mean).


You know what? The guy really doesn't bust it down the line either. That ball he hit to Izturis would of been close if he would of hustled down the line.

[Uprising]

This team couldn't piss me off any more than they have already tonight.

ONCE AGAIN! They have shot themselves in the foot. THe Dodgers aren't winnning by their own actions tonight.

The "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!" throw by Harvell was the begining. Then biggio being too aggressive in trying to catch the line drive. CRAP CRAP CRAP....this team is crap. :(


4-3 Dodgers....and still a man on.

[Uprising]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH

ANother hit up them iddle.

5-3 freakin Dodgers. we suck. I ahve to agree with DaDakota now.

So much for the great turn around. Man this hurts. So much promise...just to have the door slammed.


hmmm.....

Please make me eat my words Astros...please.


Let's go Stros.

[Surfguy]

That error by Biggio had me cracking up. I had the game on mute and I was talking to my bro loudspeaker on the cell. All the sudden I blurt out "AGHHHHH!!!" and he's like WTF?!?!? All I could do after that was laugh.

Come on, rally caps ^ .

[Surfguy]

ENSBERG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6-5 HOUSTON!!! TAKE THAT, BIATCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dEVIL]

ENSBERG!!!

3 RUN HR

[NIKEstrad]

It's about time! 3 straight 2 out hits, culminating in the bomb!

Season turnaround time?

[BobFinn*]

Big bomb by Morgan!!!!

This team ain't dead yet!!!!

[Uprising]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now keep the lead and win. And I have a lot of crap to eat tonight.




.....I think I will pass on eating crap, but I will drink crap....errrr crappy beer tonight if we win! ;)

[Nick]

Did you guys know............ that Morgan Ensberg is our best hitter this year with RISP??

[Surfguy]

Maybe I'm delirious but Weathers is actually pitching effectively while keeping the ball down.

/me rubs his eyes and pinches myself

[LongTimeFan]

Anyone else like Chavez better than Ausmus?

Not really based on talent so much, but emotion. Chavez gets pumped for the games, and I think his energy is what this club needs.

[Nick]

First-pitch HR's will kill you...

[JPM0016]

son of a... :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Nick]

HR's hit on an 0-2 count will also kill you...

[Uprising]

Looks like I am not going to have to eat nothing tonight. Miceli is HORRIBLE! TWO STRAIGHT HRS!

NO OUTS!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Groogrux]

Argh. If it's not one thing, it's another.

[Nick]

I guess we can take solace in the fact that even if our offense would have been alive this last month, and given us leads past the 7th inning... that our patchwork/overworked bullpen would have blown at least half of them???

Maybe Jimy knew something by bringing in Lidge for his 2-inning stint last week (which is something I would NOT advise doing). But, Miceli has lost some of that oomph on his fastball that he had to start the season... and Harville/Weathers/Bullinger are nowhere near capable of filling in that slot either.

Well... I guess its better to have had a lead and tried, than to have never had a lead at all.

(Man... the Dodgers have won 135 straight games when leading after the seventh inning... MAN!)

[Nick]

btw... can Redding try gunning it up there to be a good set-up man?

His control isn't great, but if he has to only pitch one inning (in which, i'm assuming, he can let it fly at 95mph+ if he's not saving himself), he might be able to get away with getting more of the plate.

I'm obviously thinking long-term... because this team will need to reform the bullpen, either thru FA, or promoting somebody within the organization.

[JPM0016]

Originally posted by Nick
btw... can Redding try gunning it up there to be a good set-up man?


why not? at this point i don't think it would hurt

[Nick]

Milton Bradley can go f*** himself...

I can't belive HE of all people would be telling anybody to be quiet.... I've seen 2 year olds who keep their composure better than that guy. (Check his tirade from earlier this year, if you don't know what I'm talking about)

[Uprising]

THis team sucks. I have officially given up on them. I will still watch their games and follow them. But I have no hope for a post season.

We suck.

[deepellumrocket]

Why is Orlando Palmiero allowed to make the last out when Lamb and Lane are both sitting on the bench?

:mad:

[Uprising]

Oh and that penis with the finger over his hole can go to hell.






.....pen....err better not type it again, is that counted as a bad word on the BBS? ....sorry if it is.

[Lil Francis]

Boy that bullpen is a disgrace. Who in the hell is Harville and David Weathers anyway??? Giants won again so the Stros are 6 games out.

[codell]

What happened with Bradley??

I missed it.

[Groogrux]

Originally posted by codell
What happened with Bradley??

I missed it.

Crowd thought it was a HR off the bat. It wasn't, Bradley caught it, and he put his index finger to his mouth saying "be quiet".

[Nick]

Originally posted by codell
What happened with Bradley??

I missed it.

Ensberg hit a warning track shot off Gagne that most people in the crowd thought would be a HR (hell, even the announcers thought so...), and Bradley catches it at the wall and starts finger-shushing the audience.

The man of the two-year old temper tantrum is telling the crowd to be quiet... if that's not the "pot calling the kettle black", I don't know what is.

[Uprising]

Originally posted by codell
What happened with Bradley??

I missed it.

Looked like a sure HR by Ensberg to the conoco. But it dropped right at the wall and Bradley caught it there. And the crowd was so loud at the moment he put his fingers on his slips telling the crowd to shush. HIs face said something like oh please, you thought that was going out?

[hjg877]

HAHAHHAHAHA I love this team!!!

It's so funny, everynight!

They should REALLY change the team name to the Houston Bi-Polars.

[francis 4 prez]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
Argh. If it's not one thing, it's another.

that's really the most amazing thing about this team. they're uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory no matter what. they just all seem to pull together behind this cause and when one guy is struggling (like say ensberg hitting a 2 out homer) someone is right there to pick him up and give up the lead with a costly error or GIDP or back to back homers. it's almost to the point you just wonder when it's coming and have a good laugh once it does because it's so inevitable.

[Surfguy]

Somebody remove Biggio from the outfield. He is terrible out there. He needs to be platooning with Kent at second I guess but he has no place in the outfield. He can't throw, he can't catch, and he can't field. What is left to prove that Biggio is an incompetent outfielder? His error cost us a run and the game in my opinion. How many more games can he lose for us? I can think of a number of instances where he stank up the outfield and we ended up losing the game.

The thing I don't get is Weathers seemed to find his groove in his last inning pitching pretty well while keeping the ball down. So, why not let him pitch the next inning and then let Lidge close it out? Why take a chance and bring in Miceli? In my opinion, the more pitchers you roll out there, the more the chance that one of these pitchers is going to have stanky stuff. My thinking is you go with what's working until you have a reason to change. The Astros bullpen is so bad that your chances go down the more pitchers you roll out to the mound. You have to go with what's working in my opinion. I knew we were in trouble when we switched pitchers. It's been the case most of the year that a pitching move backfires cause our bullpen pitchers are the model of inconsistency. Go with what is working and Weathers was working for once! Garner is making the same moves Williams would have made. I see no difference.

We stink to high heaven and I'm sick of reading the post-game comments which are all the same after every loss. It's pathetic. It's about time for the players to start pointing fingers at each other. Play the blame game. It's all we have left. I want to see some blow-ups in the lockerroom from the pathetic losers.

[leroy420]

I think I'm going to officially go Luis Gonzales on this season. It's time for surgery and to get ready for next season. Last night's game was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. It hurts more to know that the offense came alive but there was another facet of the game to lose it for us. If it's not one thing, it is most certainly another.

[rrj_gamz]

Finally get clutch hitting, but the damn pitchers give it up...

This sux...back to freakin' back HR's...

:mad:

[Jameson Paulz]

Originally posted by Jameson Paulz
Does anyone know when we are getting Wade Miller back?

Anyone???

[fatman510]

Originally posted by Jameson Paulz
Anyone???
When he was put on the DL they said a mont, so it should be pretty soon.

[Surfguy]

Originally posted by fatman510
When he was put on the DL they said a mont, so it should be pretty soon.

Yea....and he will need at least another month to shake off the rust and get out of Spring Training mode.

:mad:

[Surfguy]

ALriGhT eVeRyBoDy....tHiS iS wHeN wE tUrN iT aLl ArOuNd!!!!!!!

ToNiTe!!!!!!!!

My CaPiTaLiZaTiOn Is DySfUnCtIoNaL oN pUrPoSe To InDiCaTe My StAtEmEnT aBoVe Is BuT a PiPe DrEaM.

[Surfguy]

Astros up 3-0 in the first inning. :D

[fatman510]

ooOOOOOoooooOOOOooooH! They are scoring runs!

Too bad the bullpen will blow it now...

[bigboymumu]

Bags said that he is "almost there". I starting to believe him! GO BAGS!

[Uprising]

4-1 good guys.

So far so good. I am loving how everytime bradley is an out during a Dodger rally FSN is splitting the screen with one side showing the photage of him with his finger over his mouth and the other side with him pissed off for being out.

One of the rallies where he was the 3rd out Everette robbed him of a hit. another was with guys on 2nd and 3rd and he was called out.

Gotta love it! go FSN!!!!

[Uprising]

well so much for that.

I feel that this is the inning that is going to kill us. Here come the dodgers.

Error by Everette, his 8th.

5-4 Dodgers.....2 runs score.....now a 2 run HR!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ASTROS SUCK!!!!!!!


ANd yet I bought 4 tickets for the 27th game.....




Weathers sucks!
The more I see that Ogre man the more I dislike him! He just plan old sucks!

[Surfguy]

Astros blow another lead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nick]

On top of it all, they had the perfect opportunity to PLUNK Bradley (after the HR... hell, you've already lost the lead, who cares)... and they throw a fat pitch in the strike zone for him.

ah, who cares about wins anymore... this team isn't complete, and everybody knows that. (but, unlike the Rockets, they don't have the luxury of taking a couple of years till they ARE complete).

I would now start either grooming Redding for a set-up job, or just keep him as a starter... either way, you can't just let him sit there doing nothing (as he is now).

[DaDakota]

Time to bring up some young guys and let them play.

Trade Beltran, Kent, Biggio etc..etc..etc..

DD

[Darrinlane]

Originally posted by DaDakota
Time to bring up some young guys and let them play.

Trade Beltran, Kent, Biggio etc..etc..etc..

DD

I agree. Trade everyone we can. It's time to totally rebuild. I am SOOOO disappointed with every aspect of our team this year. I guess the Beltran trade came back to bite us in the ass. Bring in prospects, as this offense(if thats possible) and pitching staff will just get crappier and older next year. Bring on Football season. Then basketball season.

[Uprising]

I have officially given up on this team. Never have I ever seen such sloppy play.

atleast 5 times the astros have tossed the ball past their teamates. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Season is over. Screw it.

THis is a sad moment...

[Nick]

Man... it looks like this team has already given up for Garner (I expect a vicious tongue-lashing by him, and several players WILL be called out)

Seeing that this game is done now with that bullpen (Mota and Gagne), this next series AT Arizona is now the OFFICIAL funeral of this year's club.

If they end up sweeping the so-called worst NL team (they're not facing Randy Johnson, mind you), they might still have a decent pulse...

If they split, or get swept... that's it... re-name this forum, take the next month off before football, keep in touch with the Rockets PG situation... do anything as long as its not with baseball. That's when I (the eternal optimist) will give it up.

[Castor27]

As optimistic as I normally am, even I cannot watch this any longer. This group of players are pathetic. they can't hit, can't play defense and the pitching has been terrible. You can officially add me to the trade everyone and start fresh bandwagon. Watching this team make me utterly sick. As a fan I am offended by the amount of money these guys get paid to play like crap.

[Uprising]

I agree with you guys. I am always supporting out teams. I never leave games early. I watch as many as I can. I still tell my friends the Astros will turn it around.

But after tonight's SLOPPY play I have to hang up my optimism and bring out the red faces. I am just ...too....pissed off right now. THis team looks horrible.

Like I said a min ago, I have officially given up on this team. I don't think I can wait till the next series like Nick. This, in my mind was the series to turn it around. Too late now. This team tore out my heart......again.

[Nick]

Also, If I was Drayton, I'd go ahead and sell the team... you couldn't have put more effort and resources into another team besides this year, and it certainly won't be as "fun" around the ballpark in the upcoming years (hell... we may have much better teams... but you won't have the attendence following Clemens like we did this year).

Also, if we do fall out of this thing much much more, why would Clemens continue pitching every fifth day? I'm not saying that he'd want to go somewhere else, because otherwise he would have stayed retired... but the ONLY reason he wanted to pitch for Houston was to try and get this team closer to a championship.

If it becomes obvious that this is not going to happen, Drayton & co. should do the honorable thing and let him know that he'd just be wasting his time and whatever stamina he had left, pitching in a situation that he WOULD NOT have come back for.

Of course, Drayton & co. would probably want to maximize the profits of having him pitch the rest of the season... in that case (if he's still up for pitching solely in "tribute" games), let him only pitch at home.... and if you're wondering why he's getting all this good treatment, its because he's the ONLY Astro who deserves it right now.

[Baqui99]

The Astros are gay.

[fya]

Baseball in general sucks, but the astros really are a bunch of losers.

[AGBee]

The only thing that can stop this team is injuries.

Or so we were led to believe.

[Uprising]

one last ....blah. well. Thank god for Bud.

Time to sleep...

[RocketManJosh]

I have to agree .. Unless something miraculous happens this team is finished. I think this might be one of the biggest dissapointments ever for me as a Houston fan. At least it was over relatively quickly. I don't know if I could've taken missing the playoffs by one game again.

Anyways ... props to the front office for giving it the ole college try

Time to rebuild

[Raven Lunatic]

Who would have thought that this season the people that absolutely DID come through for this team (at least so far) would be Clemens, Biggio and *gasp* Drayton McClain? I guess the Biggio bit is debatable with his defense, but his hitting has far surpassed what I expected for this season.

[rrj_gamz]

we freakin' suck...I can't imagine how sorry our Bullpen is, i mean, i knew it would come back to haunt us, but damn...