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rimrocker
06-02-2004, 01:07 AM
Looks like Herseth hung on to win in ND...

In special House elections this year, the Dems are 2-0 with big wins in GOP leaning districts (KY and ND).

Plus, she's a babe... (for a Member of Congress).

http://www.keloland.com/ClassLibrary/Page/Images/Data/4724.jpg

Deckard
06-02-2004, 01:28 AM
Yes!
I saw that. Another small step forward for the Democratic Party. Look for more good news in November. :cool:

thadeus
06-02-2004, 02:32 AM
I'd do her.

bamaslammer
06-02-2004, 05:59 AM
Great.....just what we need. More liberals in Congress. As if Nancy Pelosi and the gang aren't bad enough. :rolleyes:

GladiatoRowdy
06-02-2004, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by bamaslammer
Great.....just what we need. More liberals in Congress. As if Nancy Pelosi and the gang aren't bad enough. :rolleyes:

Get used to it, bama. The Bushies have shown the GOP up for what it is and the inevitable backlash is on the way.

Mulder
06-02-2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by rimrocker
Plus, she's a babe... (for a Member of Congress).

http://www.keloland.com/ClassLibrary/Page/Images/Data/4724.jpg

Ya, she is pretty cute... How old is she?

Rockets10
06-02-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Mulder
Ya, she is pretty cute... How old is she?

I read somewhere that she is 33, but I don't remember where I read it.

rimrocker
06-03-2004, 12:53 PM
And the Magic Number Is Now...
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG, NYTimes

After Texas redrew its political boundaries last year, the Republican leadership in the House of Representatives was buzzing with talk of big increases in their majority. But when Representative Tom Reynolds of New York, the chairman of the National Republican Campaign Committee, offered his outlook for 2004 on Wednesday, it did not include such expansive predictions.

"My goal," Mr. Reynolds said, "is to bring back 228 members of House Republicans next year."

That, as it happens, was the same number of Republicans in the House until Tuesday, when Stephanie Herseth, a Democrat, squeaked to victory in a special election in South Dakota, bringing it down to 227. When reporters expressed surprise that Mr. Reynolds was not predicting an even bigger majority, given the redistricting in Texas, he simply reiterated his stance. "My goal is to bring back 228," he said, adding, "I don't predict seats."

Mr. Reynolds might not have been feeling particularly good. In addition to Ms. Herseth's victory in South Dakota — a state that President Bush won in 2000 with 61 percent of the vote — another Democrat, Ben Chandler, won in a special election in February in Kentucky, also a Republican stronghold. Though Republicans say those losses do not have greater national significance for the coming elections in November, the fact that Mr. Reynolds was forecasting a status quo outcome could be telling.

Or perhaps Mr. Reynolds was simply worried about retirements. There have been several in the ranks of House Republicans, including moderate Representatives Jack Quinn and Amo Houghton Jr., both of New York. Asked if he had any strategies in his back pocket for preventing any more Republicans from leaving office, Mr. Reynolds got up from his seat and made a great show of looking in the cabinets in his committee's conference room.

Emerging empty-handed, he declared, "I've got an ax."

bamaslammer
06-03-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by andymoon
Get used to it, bama. The Bushies have shown the GOP up for what it is and the inevitable backlash is on the way.
I don't think so, Andylib. I know you'd dance with joy with more of your ideological stripe in Washington, but I frankly like more economic freedom than less.

GladiatoRowdy
06-03-2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by bamaslammer
I don't think so, Andylib. I know you'd dance with joy with more of your ideological stripe in Washington, but I frankly like more economic freedom than less.

Despite your attempt to label me as a liberal, I still identify as an independant. I was once thinking of becoming a Libertarian, but you effectively convinced me otherwise.

I WOULD dance with joy if more of those of my political stripe were in Washington, but for the time being, it looks like the Dems and Reps will remain in power.

Besides, four more years of Bush will mean FAR less economic liberty than we have now. If you cannot see that, then you have willingly placed the blinders on your head.

bamaslammer
06-03-2004, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by andymoon
Despite your attempt to label me as a liberal, I still identify as an independant. I was once thinking of becoming a Libertarian, but you effectively convinced me otherwise.

I WOULD dance with joy if more of those of my political stripe were in Washington, but for the time being, it looks like the Dems and Reps will remain in power.

Besides, four more years of Bush will mean FAR less economic liberty than we have now. If you cannot see that, then you have willingly placed the blinders on your head.
Economic liberty means that I get to enjoy MORE of the fruits of my labor rather than seeing it redistributed to the non-producing leeches in society for the purpose of buying politicians votes. Love that blinders taunt you throw around. Be a man, Andylib. Admit what you are and all will be well. You're no more independent than the sky is green with purple polka-dots. You're firmly esconced with the left in this country. Just own up to it. If that's what you believe, fine. But don't be a coward and say "I'm an independent." It's like being a fan of Chevrolets but always buying Ford. You're living a lie.

bnb
06-03-2004, 03:48 PM
Would you two quit your nattering.

You're clearly getting away from the issue here.

She *is* a babe!

:cool:

mc mark
06-03-2004, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by bnb
Would you two quit your nattering.

You're clearly getting away from the issue here.

She *is* a babe!

:cool:

Yeah but she's from North Dakota!

Have you ever been to North Dakota? :eek:

bamaslammer
06-03-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by bnb
Would you two quit your nattering.

You're clearly getting away from the issue here.

She *is* a babe!

:cool:
She's no Lindsey Lohan... Or even Jenna Bush for that matter.

GladiatoRowdy
06-03-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by bamaslammer
Economic liberty means that I get to enjoy MORE of the fruits of my labor rather than seeing it redistributed to the non-producing leeches in society for the purpose of buying politicians votes. Love that blinders taunt you throw around. Be a man, Andylib. Admit what you are and all will be well. You're no more independent than the sky is green with purple polka-dots. You're firmly esconced with the left in this country. Just own up to it. If that's what you believe, fine. But don't be a coward and say "I'm an independent." It's like being a fan of Chevrolets but always buying Ford. You're living a lie.

Were I a liberal, I would shout it from the rooftops. My father is as liberal as they come and he taught be to be proud of what I am.

I would love to see the various "vote buying schemes" (pork barrel politics) go away tomorrow. The thing you seem to be willfully ignoring (thus proving my "blinders taunt") is that the GOP has been WORSE along those lines then the Dems have ever been. A vote for Bush is a vote for MORE Meicare prescription benefits, subsidies for industries in "battleground states," or corporate welfare for campaign contributors.

Based on your decision to vote for Bush despite all of this shows that you are no more a Libertarian than Rosie O'Donnell is a candidate for Miss Universe. You are the one living a lie. I am fiercely proud of being an independant and will continue to call ALL politicians, Dem or Rep, left or right, out for things taht are done to the detriment of this country. Make no mistake about it, YOU are the one fooling yourself. You should just hand that thing around your neck to your leash holders because you are becoming another t_j.

RocketMan Tex
06-03-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by bamaslammer
She's no Lindsey Lohan... Or even Jenna Bush for that matter.

Your right. She does not have fake tits nor is she the drunken spoiled daughter of a drunken spoiled son.

rimrocker
06-03-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by bamaslammer
She's no Lindsey Lohan... Or even Jenna Bush for that matter.

Neither one of them is a member of congress... power, looks, and a Dem... unbeatable.

GladiatoRowdy
06-03-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by bnb
Would you two quit your nattering.

You're clearly getting away from the issue here.

She *is* a babe!

:cool:

Were I not married, I would do her.

Anyone else think she looks like Ally Sheedy?

Lil Pun
06-03-2004, 04:06 PM
WHOA! andy is an independent and bama is a libertarian. WTF???

Rocketman95
06-03-2004, 04:07 PM
Go Capri (http://www.capri2004.com/)!

Major
06-03-2004, 04:17 PM
Economic liberty means that I get to enjoy MORE of the fruits of my labor

If you like this, why would you support the Bush administration? Under his government, we have increased the rate of spending far more than his predecessor. He's just taking a loan out in your name, giving you stuff, and making you think you're better off. Apparently, it worked on you.

It's like buying a TV on credit card. Just because you paid no cash today doesn't mean you're better off - it'll come back to bite you (or your kids) eventually. You'll be paying for these tax cuts for the rest of your life in taxes to cover the higher annual interest payments.

GladiatoRowdy
06-03-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
Go Capri (http://www.capri2004.com/)!

Niiiiice.

rimrocker
06-03-2004, 04:33 PM
Stephanie rides horses...

http://www.hersethforcongress.org/photos/rodeo.jpg

Stephanie talks to voters...

http://www.hersethforcongress.org/photos/milbank1.jpg

Stephanie visits seniors...

http://www.hersethforcongress.org/photos/fallriver2.jpg

bamaslammer
06-03-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Major
Economic liberty means that I get to enjoy MORE of the fruits of my labor

If you like this, why would you support the Bush administration? Under his government, we have increased the rate of spending far more than his predecessor. He's just taking a loan out in your name, giving you stuff, and making you think you're better off. Apparently, it worked on you.

It's like buying a TV on credit card. Just because you paid no cash today doesn't mean you're better off - it'll come back to bite you (or your kids) eventually. You'll be paying for these tax cuts for the rest of your life in taxes to cover the higher annual interest payments. When I get back more of my money with the tax cuts, that is what I call increased economic freedom. Am I happy about his spending? Hell no. I'm not particularly happy with that or the immigration issue. That is particularly galling that a Republican would favor opening our borders to what amounts to a non-violent invasion.

If national security wasn't such a big issue with me (since Kerry is in my view totally imcompetent in this area), I'd vote Libertarian as I have for several years. There are some things I don't like about the Libertarian Party, like their view of a isolationist foreign policy, but basically, they line up nicely with my many of my views. In case you're curious about their candidate, here he is, Michael Badnarik (http://www.badnarik.org/).

Chump
06-03-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
Go Capri (http://www.capri2004.com/)!

"Capri graduated from Stanford University with honors at age 19"

cute, down to earth and smart as a whip - I sure like what I see with these new young Democrats

mc mark
06-03-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
Go Capri (http://www.capri2004.com/)!

OMG!!!!:eek:

It's Elle Woods!

Sishir Chang
06-04-2004, 11:32 AM
bammaslammer;

As a small businessman I hear you about lower taxes, and less regulation which I think you were getting to. That said there is something to be said for fiscal responsibility which the current crop of Republicans have totally dropped. IMO I don't think either of the major parties can guarentee fiscal discipline and the only way to restore that is with divided government where they can keep each other in check.

As far as the national security side of things I respectfully disagree. I don't think this Admin has made us safer and if anything have increased the danger to Americans. The hamhanded handling of foreign affairs and arrogance have certainly made things more dangerous. At the same time pulling resources from persuing the known threat of Al Qaeda to go after the contained and speculative threat of Saddam doesn't strike me as having your national security priorities straight.

Sishir Chang
06-04-2004, 11:34 AM
Hold on a sec. Didn't Stephanie Herseth win in South Dakota?

It might not matter to y'all in Texas but here in the Upper Midwest they make a difference.

FYI Herseth's win means that the whole congressional delegation from SD is Democrat even though the state is heavily Republican.

bnb
06-04-2004, 11:39 AM
All this taxes and politics talk is seriously derailing what could have very well been the D&D's own Lindsay Lohan thread...

(yes...i'm quite smitten by her).