center fielder and speed

[edwardc]

Should the astros go after Griffey. And with the lack of speed what are they going to do ? .:confused:

[Lpya2]

no

[Puedlfor]

Griffey is expensive, and not that good anymore. He's injury prone, and he half-asses it out there.

[Castor27]

Originally posted by Puedlfor
Griffey is expensive, and not that good anymore. He's injury prone, and he half-asses it out there.

Couldn't agree more and nice title.

[Summer Song Giver]

Cleveland Indians outfielders Milton Bradley or Coco Crisp. Rumor has it Bradley may actually be on the block, how about Lane for either of these guys.

[meh]

Well, if the Astros are going for a CF, then why did they re-up Biggio for a $3 million extension? Surely no utility player is worth that much, not to mention Biggio isn't a great hitter anymore.

The Astros better hope for a ton of Ks and grounders from the pitchers this season. Because our OFs and the park's dimensions are going to be might bad for balls hit out of the infield.

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by meh
Well, if the Astros are going for a CF, then why did they re-up Biggio for a $3 million extension? Surely no utility player is worth that much, not to mention Biggio isn't a great hitter anymore.

Because of loyalty :mad:



The Astros better hope for a ton of Ks and grounders from the pitchers this season. Because our OFs and the park's dimensions are going to be might bad for balls hit out of the infield. [/B]

Or hope it goes to Richard Hidalgo...

[edwardc]

Originally posted by Summer Song Giver
Cleveland Indians outfielders Milton Bradley or Coco Crisp. Rumor has it Bradley may actually be on the block, how about Lane for either of these guys.

both of those guys would be nice they would solve both problem a speedy cf and lead off guy.

[Puedlfor]

Lance is really underrated as an outfielder - he's no superstar defensively, but he's better than most Leftfielders out there.

Look at our two primary competitors' leftfielders : Moises Alou and Albert Pujols. Both are quite terrible.

Hidalgo is a pretty good defensive right fielder.

[notafaker]

we should have or get a prospectin the minors to play center to replace bigg when he retires. i stay loyal to bigg cause hes always played hard so i have no qurrell with him.

[meh]

Originally posted by Puedlfor
Lance is really underrated as an outfielder - he's no superstar defensively, but he's better than most Leftfielders out there.

Look at our two primary competitors' leftfielders : Moises Alou and Albert Pujols. Both are quite terrible.

Hidalgo is a pretty good defensive right fielder.

The problem is the dimension of our outfield. You can get away with pretty mediocre RF and LF in this park. Neither corner is all that deep. But the center field is just too vast for any of our OF to cover. We basically have 4 corner OFs in Hidalgo, Biggio, Lane, and Berkman. None of them can truly patrol CF well.

In my perfect dream world, Andrew Jones would be our CF. But, like many other things, it's just a pipe dream.

[Bogey]

I'm holding out hope that Jimmerson will improve in AAA this season and be our CF of the future.

[edwardc]

Originally posted by Bogey
I'm holding out hope that Jimmerson will improve in AAA this season and be our CF of the future.

He's still a 2 to 3 years away they need help know and none of the current 4 have the speed to really cover the job.

[Another Brother]

hmmm...

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Summer Song Giver
Rumor has it Bradley may actually be on the block...
Where'd you hear that? Bradley's one of the guys I'm hoping the 'Stros will look at after this season.

[DanHiggsBeard]

Originally posted by Puedlfor
Lance is really underrated as an outfielder - he's no superstar defensively, but he's better than most Leftfielders out there.

Look at our two primary competitors' leftfielders : Moises Alou and Albert Pujols. Both are quite terrible.

Hidalgo is a pretty good defensive right fielder.

Pujols has been designated the full tiem 1st basebamn this season.

Hidalgo is a very average fielder....he just has a great arm.

[kevwun]

i don't think Bradley would fit in here at all. He's got a very large mouth.

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by kevwun
i don't think Bradley would fit in here at all. He's got a very large mouth.
He had serious attitude problems in the minors & in his early ML career. By most accounts I've read, he turned a page last year. It's easier to get away with that crap on a young team like Cleveland (and Montreal before that) than it is on a veteran club like the Astros. Remember, even Carl Everett behaved while he was here. ;)

[edwardc]

Originally posted by Another Brother
hmmm...
I think i know what that hmmm was for.

[bigtexxx]

Originally posted by edwardc
I think i know what that hmmm was for.

I think he's still pissed we got rid of Brian L. Hunter.

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by bigtexxx
I think he's still pissed we got rid of Brian L. Hunter.
Or maybe it's Henri Stanley, who's batting a robust .067 in Pads camp.

[BigCountry132]

Maybe a robertson for bradley would work? The astros should trade him while he stock is high(15 wins).

[bobmarley]

Robertson is going to retire after this year.. at least that is what he did in MVP Baseball 2004:D

[Fegwu]

Originally posted by bobmarley
Robertson is going to retire after this year.. at least that is what he did in MVP Baseball 2004:D


:D :D :D

[stubbyc]

The Willie Taveras kid we got from the Rule 5 draft has tons of speed. 57 SBs in 69 attempts in A ball with great CF range.

The only problem is, he really isn't ready. If we could send one of our pitchers to Cleveland for him, we could send him to AA where he belongs. Otherwise, according to Rule 5 draft rules, he has to stay on our major league roster all year stinting his development.

[edwardc]

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
Or maybe it's Henri Stanley, who's batting a robust .067 in Pads camp.

or maybe he sees the same thing i see ?.

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Summer Song Giver
Cleveland Indians outfielders Milton Bradley or Coco Crisp. Rumor has it Bradley may actually be on the block, how about Lane for either of these guys.
Asking price from the Injuns is pretty steep.

When the Astros asked the Indians about outfielder Coco Crisp, Cleveland asked for Tim Redding

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/108074043927740.xml

[Summer Song Giver]

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
Asking price from the Injuns is pretty steep.

When the Astros asked the Indians about outfielder Coco Crisp, Cleveland asked for Tim Redding

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/108074043927740.xml

I'm confident we could get him cheaper, I wouldn't trade Redding straight up for him.

[JayZ750]

Why would we give up Tim Redding for a leadoff hitter with a .266 average and a .302 OBP?? Granted, he's realatively young still, but mediocre pitcher (career record wise) is much better than mediocre hitter, imo.

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
He had serious attitude problems in the minors & in his early ML career. By most accounts I've read, he turned a page last year.
OK, OK, he's still an asshat:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1773330

WINTER HAVEN, Fla. -- The Cleveland Indians will trade Milton Bradley within 72 hours of Wednesday's confrontation with manager Eric Wedge, ESPN's Peter Gammons reported today.

Bradley abruptly left Cleveland's training camp Thursday, one day after he was pulled from an exhibition game for not running out a pop fly against Houston. Bradley was told quietly by Wedge that he needed to be on second base. Bradley responded, and while it was not a shouting match, he showed disrespect for his manager in front of his teammates.

General manager Mark Shapiro told Bradley that the Indians organization could not allow such behavior or such a lack of respect, according to Gammons. To his credit, Bradley moved to Cleveland this offseason and did what the club says was more community service than any other player....

Bradley has a history of transgressions on and off the field, and this one may lead the Indians to cut ties with him. He signed a one-year $1.73 million contract in November.

Bradley didn't comment before leaving in a cab before Wednesday's game ended, but he said through the team he had a tight groin. He was pulled from a game last season for failing to run out a ball. He also angered some opponents by showboating.

Bradley had been a model citizen all spring, promising he had changed and would not be a distraction. In February, he was sentenced to three days in jail for driving away from police after being stopped for speeding.

-Definitely not Gerry's kind of guy...

[chievous minniefield]

we'd give him the Carl Everett massage. it would be all good.

plus, you have to empathize with him. . . if your name was Milton Bradley, you'd probably grow up at least a little maladjusted.

"don't get so upset. it's just a game. . . Milton Bradley."

seriously, though, I'd take the chance with him.

[Summer Song Giver]

Man, I hope Gerry still has the Indians on speed dial. I would trade Hidalgo for Bradley in a second. Save some salary and get an atleast equally talented ballplayer in return; I'm there.

[spence99]

I wouldn't trade Hidalgo for him, that's giving up too much. They want him out of there, so you can probably get him for cheaper.

[Buck Turgidson]

If the 'Stros wanted Gameboy, he would have been part of the Robertson deal.

[Summer Song Giver]

Hidalgo signed a 5-year, $45 million contract. His contract includes a $2 million signing bonus, payable in four equal payments on 1/15/01, 4/1/01, 1/15/02, and 1/15/03. Hidalgo will earn $3 million in 2001, $5 million in 2002, $8 million in 2003, and $12 million in 2004. The final season of the deal, 2005, is a club option worth $15 million with a $2 million buyout if it is not exercised. In addition, the contract allows for up to an additional $2 million if Hidalgo wins certain awards.


Compare that with Bradley's slotted salary of $1.73M and I would consider it.