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Kerr's apology appropriate

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  1. xiki

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    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/24/SPGM24GTBG1.DTL

    Sincere, appropriate apology
    David Steele Saturday, January 24, 2004

    Steve Kerr did not claim ignorance as an excuse for the offensive term for Chinese Americans he used during a nationally televised NBA game Monday. He offered it as a reason, while making a sincere apology for using it. "I didn't know it was a derogatory term," he said of the phrase -- "Chinaman" -- he used to describe the Rockets' Yao Ming. "I'm sorry that I offended a lot of people.''

    Smart move, because people of Chinese descent, and of Asian descent, understand ignorance as a reason. They don't accept it as an excuse. They have made that clear since Monday night, when the outraged e-mails and phone calls started crisscrossing the country. Many of them landed at the Organization of Chinese Americans' headquarters in Washington, D.C. Many of them came from the Bay Area, including several addressed to The Chronicle.

    The OCA (with 10,000 members in 80 chapters, including the Peninsula and Silicon Valley) listened. So did Kerr, who during his lengthy NBA career had a well-earned reputation as one of the brighter and more perceptive pro athletes. Kerr made a point of not only issuing apologies in writing and in interviews, but of making one directly to Yao, and admitting that with a Chinese American sister-in-law and a brother-in-law who teaches Chinese history at Cambridge, "of all people, I should know better.''
    Kerr didn't do the right thing on the air -- and his timing was particularly egregious, coming on Martin Luther King Day and three days before Chinese New Year -- but he has done the right thing since. Now, he has a chance to help himself and everyone else do the right thing by sports fans from all Asian ethnicities.

    "He was actually quite cooperative, and we are continuing the dialogue in order to promote cultural awareness with the Asian American community," OCA executive director Christine Chen said from Washington on Friday.

    It's a desperately needed dialogue. It's one that the biggest Asian sports star in American is capable of generating. And, to the chagrin of Asian American fans, it's one that probably will include more insults, inadvertent or not.

    "Yao Ming is going to be around a long time," Chen said, "and we're afraid that there will be more ignorant comments and derogatory comments made in the future.''

    She's afraid for good reason: Her group has been too busy lately addressing such comments. It was only three months ago that golfer Jan Stephenson went on a tirade in a magazine against the Korean players dominating her sport. A month after that, Mets executive Bill Singer (who later was fired) publicly unloaded a volley of racist insults on Dodgers executive Kim Ng.

    Kerr's comment came a year after Shaquille O'Neal spewed gibberish disguised as a Yao impression in a TV interview (a clip that was gleefully repeated by radio talk-show hosts all over the country) and three years after then-Kings guard Jason Williams got into an obscene exchange with Asian fans at a Warriors game in Oakland.

    Several viewers angrily saw Kerr's remark as a continuation of an ugly trend, one that crosses gender and racial lines (which they find even more inexcusable) and feeds into the same mind-set that, for example, produced last year's Abercrombie & Fitch T-shirts - that Asians exist in America solely to be made fun of, stereotyped and caricatured.

    They weren't comforted, either, to see such incidents sail under the mainstream media radar the way, for example, remarks by a Rush Limbaugh or John Rocker don't. A few of the aforementioned incidents, including Kerr's, went overlooked even while the ethnic media, message boards, chat rooms and in- boxes were giving them blanket coverage.

    Thus, opportunities to reverse the trend can't be allowed to slip away. "Awareness of this point," e-mailer Steve Wong wrote to The Chronicle, "is the key to eliminating (hopefully, or at least reducing) this type of ignorance in the future.''

    The Asian population of other major cities isn't as large as the Bay Area's (Kerr purposely spoke to two different Chronicle reporters, aware of the size of the audience he offended).

    Nevertheless, its growing presence in all walks of life ought to be sufficient for everyone -- particularly in the high-visibility area of sports -- to start learning about Asians, their history and their culture, and not carelessly fling about the same comments that might have gone unchallenged a generation ago.

    "It's an opportunity to actually educate a broader community out there, especially those who watch sports," Chen said. "It's an American thing, and we're part of the American fabric.'' No one knows that better than Kerr does now, and he's grateful for the lesson.

    How far the lesson goes from here remains to be seen.

    E-mail David Steele at dsteele@sfchronicle.com.
     
  2. Agent86

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    I remember the first time I heard about this was a few years ago when we had a comedian on the board and he told us that he went to a comedy club, used that word and was treated the same way. That would be the first and this would be the second time I heard of that.
     
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    yah..i actually heard him say that ...the word "chinaman" it just makes it looks like he HAVE TO point out that YAO is from china...it's disturbing just if he were to say "black man" or "white man".....it just sad......that's the ONLY thing that is wrong with us americans...we can't learn to respect each other culture..and yet we "celebrate" Dr. MLK day....if you really want to celebrate his life...you should follow his words and learn to live with each other....
     
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  6. Jeffster

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    the word Chinaman is two words China..and man together. Honestly, people are just TRYING to look for something to be offended by. I hate the PC-world we're in now. Get over it.
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    Check out this thread. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71588

    It explains the history of the word.
     
  8. Jeffster

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    Okay, I read all of that giant thread, and it didn't change my opinion in the slightest. This society is filled with so many double standards, and everybody is offended by something. I'm offended by lots of things I see and hear, but if I spent time worrying about all that, I wouldn't have much of a life.

    I don't tell other people what they can and cannot say.
     
  9. Woofer

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    There's a difference between something being simply offensive and creating an environment that encourages people to treat some group of people as less than human.
     
  10. robbie380

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    i wonder if chinaman is as offensive as redskin or if its just that chinese have a lot more power in america than indians
     
  11. London'sBurning

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    Indian isn't even the proper term to call them. Indian would mean that they were from India. From what I can remember of World History my freshman year in HS, the term Indian generated when Europeans were looking for a trade route towards Asia and it's islands by selling west. Naturally there's N. America and S. America in the way. The explorers land, mistaken N. and S. America for being Asia and call it's people Indians. An incorrect term that is accepted more freely accepted than any other word I know involving a person of race. I don't particular care though.

    I'm atleast a quarter Native American and don't really mind. Native Americans are significantly smaller in population and power in the U.S. though. The Washing Redskins, Atlanta Braves, and Cleveland Indians have been fought against by Native Americans for their racially incorrect and demeaning terms, but to no avail in case you were wondering.

    I forget who the man was in the 60s that fought for Native American rights but he was sort of like along the lines of leadership that Cesar Chavez or MLK Jr. was. He was known for being violent however. Actually he may not of even been from the 60s, but more like the 70s instead when he became well recognized. I want to say his name has a Dean in it, but I'm probably wrong.
     
  12. wrath_of_khan

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    So why tell them what they can or cannot be offended by?
     
  13. SamFisher

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    LB: I think you're thinking of Leonard Peltier,
     
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    That dude is an arse. I was there.
     
  15. Manny Ramirez

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    Jackie,

    Nice to see that you have picked up the mantle of posting the crazy and zany pics that were started by 2 stalwarts of this forum in Trader_Jorge and SamFisher.:D
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I think you have to take into account the tenor and history of the guy saying it.

    Obviously Kerr did not know it was offensive.....

    Heck, I did not know it was either....not sure why it still is either, but that is not my call to make.

    DD
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    Lol. Though the Black Jesus thing is a little weird.
     

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