ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Celtics 1/14/2004

[Clutch]

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[aeroman10]

Rockets 96 - Celtics 88

;)

[scotia]

WIN for sure

[Frodo]

Rockets WIN: 85-77 :)

[ckahlich001]

WIN for sure

absolutely.

[ivanyy2000]

How can you say win for sure when Boston shoot the balls so well and defend Yao so well with double and triple team?

Yao will be fronted all night long, they have to figure this out sooner better than later.

A blowout loss

Boston 89

rox 72

[Sane]

Rockets 90
Celtics 86

Yao 24 pts, 12 reb, 6 blk, 3asst

[Blatz]

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[HAYJON02]

How can this be anything less than a blowout? I'm watching this one for sure.

Let's hope Yao will use this game and the last as the start of a string of good showings. If they lose, they don't deserve to be called professional basketball players

[Life2Def]

Big payback or Big let down? We need a W before coming home to host the Wolves because their playing outstanding ball. We first got to stay focus and snatch a win from Boston.


Rockets win...nevermind the score.

[arif1127]

If the rocks use the high/low effectively, and swing the ball from strong side to weak using cato to drop it in to yao, yao will get some good touches tomorrow, deep in the paint. I think they were using cato to feed yao tonight a little so they'd be ready for it tomorrow. I see the rocks coming back strong, staying tight to the shooters on the outside while leaving anyone in the paint one on one. Look for some penetration by steve and cat as well tomorrow, anything to break down the D the celts used the other day.

86-80 rockets

[ZRB]

The Rockets should be seeking revenge against the Celtics, and show no mercy. A loss would be a terrible embarrassment. No way should the Rockets EVER be swept by an Eastern Conference team.

The Rockets need to keep pace with Denver (never thought I'd say that), because this season is quickly turning into a joke. Last year, it was Phoenix that came out of nowhere and beat the Rockets out. Now it's Denver. Houston should not be behind Denver at this point in the season, yet they are.

Anyway, no chance here.

Rockets: 68
Celtics: 110

Yao disappears again with only 2 points on 1-5 shooting, and 3 rebounds. Francis scores 12 points to lead the Rockets, with 3 assists and 19 turnovers.

[room4rentsf]

ZRB are you even a Rox fan? sorry I dont mean to bash or anything but thats a blow out from an eastern conference team thats barely over .500.

I think the Rox will make the right adjustments (crossing fingers) and stomp the Celts to get revenge for that last outing. JVG is probably studying tape and working on a game plan for Boston like PnR with Yao near the FT line and more outside shots for Yao to help him open up his inside game and beat the double teams. If the Rox start hitting all their open shots the Celts wont be able to sag and cheat as much tom night..

Hopefully Yao comes out looking for revenge tom. and brings the thunder..

Yao 31 pts/ 14 rebs/ 6 blks
SF 18 pts/ 8 rebs/ 9 assists. (hopefully only 2 TO's)

maybe they are warming up Boki to shoot more 3's against Boston tom.

Go Yao! Go Rox! Go Super Duper Backup Bench Brigade!

J

[francis 4 prez]

i think it's a little too soon for a retro thread about a game we just played 3 days ago.

[Relativist]

room, ZRB's an established poster and well-known pessimist. You're not the first one to question his loyalties, but he's definitely a Rockets fan. :) Anyway, he's joking. We all know Yao won't play because JVG hates him and that Steve will only have 10 turnovers. :)

I think the Rocks come out for revenge, but that it will still be close. I hope Yao can overcome or at least neutralize being sandwiched. If he does, Rockets may win convincingly.

[ragingFire]

Originally posted by ZRB
The Rockets should be seeking revenge against the Celtics, and show no mercy. A loss would be a terrible embarrassment. No way should the Rockets EVER be swept by an Eastern Conference team.

Rockets should NEVER be swept by an East team?
As much as it pains me, it has happened before ... quite a lot actually ....

Do u want recent stats or do u want to go back, ... say to the Championship yrs?

How about getting swept 0-2 by:
Chi in 96, 98, 02
Cleve 02
Det in 03
Indy in 2000, 02
Mia 96, 97, 98, 02
Milk 2000
NY 95, 96, 00, 03
NO 97, 98
NJ 02
Tor 2000

and remember Orl in 95, 96, 97, 98, 00, 02?
We only lost 0-1 agaisnt them in 09 'cause it was a strike shorten yr! ;)

[sums41]

I know this was last game, but does anyone think that boki is out of JVG's doghouse, he played more than pike, or was it a one game thing, anyone?

[poison]

WE well get revenge!!:mad: :mad:

[Dallas Rocket]

With the exception of the Spurs, the Celtics defense was the best I've seen this year. They literally took Yao out of the game.

Let's see if Rox can adjust and take advantage of defense that traps SF and fronts Yao.

....it's our move. Time to step up and grow up.

D R

[ckahlich001]

celtics' answer to our pick and roll was double teaming it.

Pllllllllllllease dont let me see a whole bunch of kamikaze-styled dribbling through the double team that always ends in a turnover.

that double team the pick and roll was killing our one trick pony dribble dribble dribble offense. i wonder what JVG will draw up for tonight...dare we actually set up some post up plays?

[qrui]

i'll say it's time to get revenge. :mad:

[Roc Paint]

It's bean baggin time.

Rockets 94

Boston 77

[ricerocket]

Rockets 85

Celtics 89

[Asspirin]

I just want to see Cat play less than 40min to avoid fatigue.
He's getting way too many minutes...

[Gummi Clutch]

Revenge is sweet.

No 3-Point Contest PLEASE!!!
Let the Rockets dictate the pac of this game.

[deepblue]

Will be at the game tonight, have pretty good seats (Row D).

Hope it's gonna be a good game.

[leroy]

Rockets exact a little revenge tonight. They used last night as practice for when Yao gets fronted. It just means the open man has to make the shot. If that's happening, they will have to back off of Yao, leaving him for some easy points.

92-75 Rockets win!

[ragingFire]

Originally posted by leroy420
Rockets exact a little revenge tonight. They used last night as practice for when Yao gets fronted. It just means the open man has to make the shot. If that's happening, they will have to back off of Yao, leaving him for some easy points.

92-75 Rockets win!
I hope the Rockets keep playing decisive as they did in the 3rd quarter against Washington.

When Yao was doubled in the post before he got the ball, MoT cut hard toward the FT circle. When his man followed him, the ball was fed to Yao quickly. When his man slowed, the ball was dished to MoT for open 15 ft J. Money in the bank.

[HillBoy]

Originally posted by ZRB
The Rockets should be seeking revenge against the Celtics, and show no mercy. A loss would be a terrible embarrassment. No way should the Rockets EVER be swept by an Eastern Conference team.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Rockets ARE an Eastern Conference team.

[OmegaSupreme]

Originally posted by aeroman10
Rockets 96 - Celtics 88

;)

rox 88
celts 96

;)

[shawn786]

Rox 92
Celtics 83

[HeyDude]

payback time :mad:
Look for Cat, he's due.:cool:

[rrj_gamz]

The Rox should avenge their pathetic showing this past Sunday...

Rox: 92

Celts: 85

[pchan]

I don't know why JVG is hating on Boki.
I expect a boki's breakout game if jvg would just play him.
yeah... I'm a boki only fan.. and what.. :rolleyes:

rox win
the start of a winning streak

question: is it possilbe to cheer for the team but wish JJ does bad... cuz I am in a intense head-to-head fantasy league and JJ is on the other team.. he is killing me.

[London'sBurning]

Not predicting the outcome of the game at all. They're too inconsistent to give an accurate description. I hope they do well though and most of all show consistent significant improvement in every facet of the game.

[room4rentsf]

I think JVG is making adjustments like having Cato to help feed the ball to Yao (laterally) or to other post players ..

Its hard to feed Yao the ball so we feed it Cato who might have an easier time feeding Yao. Boston's defense didnt seem that great except for sagging on Yao and daring the shooters to make their shots. I wish we would take a step closer and make more midrange jumpers and drive into the lanes.

for some reason we as a team are not getting to the FT line enough this season. I hope we attack attack attack the basket..

J

[ZRB]

Originally posted by ragingFire
Rockets should NEVER be swept by an East team?
As much as it pains me, it has happened before ... quite a lot actually ....



and remember Orl in 95, 96, 97, 98, 00, 02?
We only lost 0-1 agaisnt them in 09 'cause it was a strike shorten yr! ;)

I'm not talking about years past. I'm talking about this season.

But if you want to look at a little history, in 2000-01, the Rockets were 25-5 against Eastern opponents. Since then, they've gotten more talented, and the east has gotten worse. At this point, if the Rockets are swept by any eastern team, then it shows that they're just not trying hard enough.

After missing the playoffs four straight years, the Rockets should pounce on these pathetic teams and fatten up in the win column. So far, it's not happening.

[ricerocket]

After missing the playoffs four straight years, the Rockets should pounce on these pathetic teams and fatten up in the win column. So far, it's not happening.

Actually, I think they do have a fat record vs. the East this year as well....

[ricerocket]

Unless I'm reading it wrong they are 11-4 against the east?

http://www.nba.com/standings/by_conference.html

[ZRB]

That 11-4 record includes two home losses and is only on pace for a 22-8 record. That's hardly the 25-5 dominance the Rockets displayed a few seasons ago- you know, when they swept an ENTIRE DIVISION! I'm not impressed.

[ricerocket]

I wasn't trying to impress, just shows they are horrible against their own conference. That's really what counts...

So, does that mean Rudy was/is better than JVG, the great East Conference coach? ;)

[SHANGHAi]

I'd like to put a ye ol' bit of faith in the Rockets...

Rockets 87
Celtics 78

[DanzelKun]

HELP!

Can anyone tell me if TV51 still runs the Rockets Repeat at Midnight? I was lookin' forward to tonights game after the great one last night, but won't be able to catch it...

Should I set my VCR to record or just rely on a repeat?

Thanks!

[Gummi Clutch]

i dont think they replay anymore.
i could be wrong.

[Blatz]

Originally posted by DanzelKun
HELP!

Can anyone tell me if TV51 still runs the Rockets Repeat at Midnight? I was lookin' forward to tonights game after the great one last night, but won't be able to catch it...

Should I set my VCR to record or just rely on a repeat?

Thanks!

No Rockets repeat, so set your VCR.

[thegame_2234]

we deserve a revenge gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ROCKETS
win
98
80 :) :D :cool:

[oldman]

rox 89
celts 77

[lee]

Originally posted by Blatz
Audio Link

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Did anyone have any luck with this link Saturday?

yes it work but it talk about other sport not basketball.

[VoltaireLied]

I'm with ZRB on this one, although not as drastic as his prediction. Boston will force us to shoot from the outside, which, as we've proven so many times past, is not our forte. Last night the shots were falling(%51 for the night), tonight the law of averages rears it's ugly head(%41 for the season). Celts get out to an early lead and never look back.

Rockets 82
Celtics 92



-VL

PS - It'll be JVG's fault that we miss open jumper after open jumper, repeat ad nausium...

[Texas Stoke]

Rockets bust out of the gates fast and never look back

Jim Jackson stays hot and pours in 30.

Yao gets a nice 20.

And Francis gives out a smooth 12 dimes.

Rockets 107 Boston 86

[KaiSeR SoZe]

Yes revenge is sweet!

92-81 Rockets

[Houstone]

I heard Kelvin Cato ain't playing tonight. :(

[Charvo]

Jump shooting contest tonight again. I see no reason for Jim O'Brien to change his defensive strategy.

[Charvo]

If Van Gundy puts Yao down low to get swarmed around like ants on a piece of meat, he should be lashed. Keep Yao at the top of the key where he can utilize his jump shot and get down the court quickly to defend transition shots. Stevie penetrates and dish to guys on the perimeter.

[Uprising]

The Offense looked great last night. The only thing that kept us from breaking that game open was turnovers. We had 21.

I am looking for the Rockets to smack some payback back into the Celtics tonight...in about 1 minute.

I really hope we win this one. Our conference is very tough. We need to play better than .500 ball.

[RoxBigFan]

Yao is going to have a bad game tonight based on past games pattern. Everytime he has a good game, he will have bad game for sure.

[Charvo]

Originally posted by RoxBigFan
Yao is going to have a bad game tonight based on past games pattern. Everytime he has a good game, he will have bad game for sure.

That certainly is the trend. If Van Gundy puts him down in the post, it's almost guaranteed to be a bad game.

[ymc]

Wow! Ming is shooting 100%! :eek:

[sup123]

everyone one is relizeing if u put a little pressure on steve he will get fustrated!

[peleincubus]

well guys Yao Ming isnt playing all that bad now is he...

[London'sBurning]

Ladies and gentlemen the Houston Rockets have figured out how to pass the ball into Yao when he's got good position. He's killing the Celts out there.

[ahbuchen]

Yao is super-hot.

8pts in 2 mins

[doyouever]

What's wrong with Boston, they really love Yao Ming and want him make a name here

[Deuce]

WOW, Yao has 17pts and 7 rebounds on 8-9 shooting! I cant see the game, what the hell is going on?

Is Cato out because he is hurt or because of matchup problems.

Nachbar is getting minutes? At the expense of Pike? Interesting!

[London'sBurning]

Damn I may of spoken too soon. Following play after I post they figured out how to pass to Yao, Mobley fails to dump the ball inside to him and is trapped baseline for a turnover.

[kanevil]

Yao-Za !! yao is having a monster game, lets see if you can get a double double by half time!! =)

[oliver_67]

Yao is playing that he is against the Koreans or the Japanese national team.

Kudo to JVG to make changes. The team moves the ball great, and Yao is killing the Celtics from inside/outside.

I have not seen him making so many dunks since the finals in the Asian championship game.

[syin1]

Originally posted by RoxBigFan
Yao is going to have a bad game tonight based on past games pattern. Everytime he has a good game, he will have bad game for sure.

He had 17 before the first half ends, man!!

[Deuce]

Clearly the Rockets have made adjustments from the previous Boston game. I cant see the game. What are they doing differently in this game?

[jiongni]

Originally posted by Deuce
Clearly the Rockets have made adjustments from the previous Boston game. I cant see the game. What are they doing differently in this game?


They just know how to passed the ball to ming when he had good position. Give the credits to cat today. Suddenlly he knows Giving the ball to ming makes the team win

[Xenogears]

What's going on...didn't you all say Yao plays bad on back to back??:p

[YaoFan]

What? 50%FT for Yao? totally unacceptible!

[TECH]

Originally posted by RoxBigFan
Yao is going to have a bad game tonight based on past games pattern. Everytime he has a good game, he will have bad game for sure.

:rolleyes: ;)

[London'sBurning]

Man Francis really gets under my skin. He dribbled out two possessions during the final minutes of the first half. One he dribbled so long that he finally broke down his defender drove in the lane and couldn't find the shot in midair so you guessed it, he kicks out to Boki with few seconds left on the shot clock and left him to try and create a bucket. The result was a fastbreak mid ranger jumper for the Celts. Next possession, Francis talks to JJ for a couple of seconds instead of rushing the ball up the court and jacks up a bad 3 pointer because of his poor clock management and inability to get into a play fast enough. Then his temper tantrum that resulted in an offensive foul, and his technical for getting pissed he couldn't shake one of the Celts defenders that was guarding him. The dude is baited too easily in the mental game and doesn't run plays fast enough. And despite Yao Mings great performance tonight, when the Rockets need buckets in some of the most important times of the game like the final minute, Francis bails on them and tries to put up a flashy show. The man is too immature to lead this team.

[oliver_67]

They are starting Padgett instead of Cato so that the Celtics has to respect his shot. And the Rockets used Yao in the high post at the beginning of the game. After yao made his first two 19-22 footers, the Celtics had to come out and guard him.

Then our guard somehow began to penetrate and also seemed to suddenly know how to make passes over fronting defenders. Then it's all over.

It's remarkable that Yao was 9-10 from the field. Even 9-10 from guarded layups are remarkable.

Hopefully JVG can keep making adjustments to fully utilize Yao's game. And certainly Yao's super aggressiveness in the first half helped.

[user]

Originally posted by YaoFan
What? 50%FT for Yao? totally unacceptible!

but 7 rbs at half time is an OK performance. 19pts in 19mins is nice though.

[Bobliu]

I guess nothing is for sure in this world ... including Yao's bad game following a good game ...

He got 19 points and 7 rebounds at half time playing only 17 minutes - his regular playing time.

Since Since Cato is not available, Yao will have to play more minutes in the second half than usual though.

[London'sBurning]

Another thing I forgot to mention is Mobley needs to stop trying to split defenders that trap him. He turns the ball over too much doing that. Play smart ball.

[syin1]

Originally posted by Deuce
Clearly the Rockets have made adjustments from the previous Boston game. I cant see the game. What are they doing differently in this game?

How to make Yaoming dominate? This first half is the right answer. The key? move the the ball around and play team basketball. You don't even to pass the ball intentionally to Yao, just move, run and find the open man.

So simple!!!!!!

Go Yao, go rockets!

[sup123]

Originally posted by London'sBurning
Man Francis really gets under my skin. He dribbled out two possessions during the final minutes of the first half. One he dribbled so long that he finally broke down his defender drove in the lane and couldn't find the shot in midair so you guessed it, he kicks out to Boki with few seconds left on the shot clock and left him to try and create a bucket. The result was a fastbreak mid ranger jumper for the Celts. Next possession, Francis talks to JJ for a couple of seconds instead of rushing the ball up the court and jacks up a bad 3 pointer because of his poor clock management and inability to get into a play fast enough. Then his temper tantrum that resulted in an offensive foul, and his technical for getting pissed he couldn't shake one of the Celts defenders that was guarding him. The dude is baited too easily in the mental game and doesn't run plays fast enough. And despite Yao Mings great performance tonight, when the Rockets need buckets in some of the most important times of the game like the final minute, Francis bails on them and tries to put up a flashy show. The man is too immature to lead this team.
he makes me angry to; ill say it again trade him; everyone can bash me all they want but francis is just overated.

[kwc]

man, people are too wound up here ...

[Houstone]

Originally posted by sup123
he makes me angry to; ill say it again trade him; everyone can bash me all they want but francis is just overated.

He's not overrated, it's just that he's not a poing guard.

[London'sBurning]

It's not so much being wound up, but you figure when one of your players is having one of his best games and performances that the lead would be bigger then what it is. And it could of atleast been an 8 to 10 point lead if it wasn't for the poor execution in the final minute. Actually the final 2 minutes were nothing really to be proud of, but the final minute is crucial always. They could of had atleast gone 2 for 1 and had opportunities to take better shots then they did, but Francis didn't manage the clock well enough to do that and made some bad mental mistakes throughout the half. Those kind of mistakes can prove costly in the second half. But your right there are positives to be proud of. They're passing to Yao at the right moment like we've all wanted them to, and in some possessions look like the Kings in the passing game. Well maybe not the Kings, but atleast Utah passing like :D

[Charvo]

Originally posted by London'sBurning
The dude is baited too easily in the mental game

The question I ask is whether or not Steve is the type of player to have the ball in his hand almost the whole time. He's not like Bibby, Steve Nash, or Tony Parker who are champion-caliber point guards who can control their emotions on the court. Steve can be a fiery player in a position that does not dominate the ball handling, but he can and will be a liability if opposing coaches exploit this handicap.

[michecon]

Here's some interesting conversation in the chat:

I was joking Yao is done for the night since he's got his 19 points in the half already. Some R2K jerk jump in and comment I don't need to be there since all I care was Yao anyway. and Yao-only-fan, blah, blah, blah...

Then I got booted for calling that full of shiiiit.


Really sad.

[michecon]

And I never bashed anyone on the team.

WEll, this just turned me into a YOF. Whatever. Go Yao.

[Texas Stoke]

I hate to say it but Mo Taylor may need to start with Yao. This game gives a good example as to how a power forward with the ability to score can really loosen up defenses that are geared to stop Yao.

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by Xenogears
What's going on...didn't you all say Yao plays bad on back to back??:p

Hey all you haters, Do you think he could have done the same had he playted 48 minutes yesterday, I thnk not, so now dont you guys feel stupid bashing JVG for benchin Yao.

[Compgeek]

Originally posted by michecon
Here's some interesting conversation in the chat:

I was joking Yao is done for the night since he's got his 19 points in the half already. Some R2K jerk jump in and comment I don't need to be there since all I care was Yao anyway. and Yao-only-fan, blah, blah, blah...

Then I got booted for calling that full of shiiiit.


Really sad.

Sooner or later, there will be more freedom of speech in China than in the US.

Already it's easier to fly in and out of China without they even give you a second look at the gate.

[Xenogears]

Probably true. With Cato in there, every team knows not to guard him cause he can't shoot, so rox play 4 on 5 on offense.

[ahbuchen]

Originally posted by Bobliu
I guess nothing is for sure in this world ... including Yao's bad game following a good game ...

He got 19 points and 7 rebounds at half time playing only 17 minutes - his regular playing time.

Since Since Cato is not available, Yao will have to play more minutes in the second half than usual though.

This one is right:
If Yao is outperformed by someone at the first meeting, he will bounce back and outperform the opponent in the next meeting.

[ArtV]

Padgette is not the PF answer. I can't understand why he's still out there.

[WNBA]

Cato get traded before the game.

[mirror_image]

6:52 HOU Steve Francis Discontinue Dribble

:confused:

[ArtV]

Sure - after I post - Padgett shows up.

[hooroo]

cato & pike being rotated/sick/injured or nachbar & padgett getting shopped?

[WNBA]

9 rb and 7 pt is still pretty good.

[London'sBurning]

Yao looks either injured or exhausted after that last shot attempt. I hope it's more along the lines of exhaustion although naturally I'd prefer neither. It's nice to see everyone on the team step up their perimeter game. Padgett, Mobley, and JJ all nailing their open 3s. Padgett's providing hustle, and is a nice player coming off the bench even if he is starting tonight :D

[hooroo]

who's been filling in for yao at center?

[London'sBurning]

hooroo Cato's injured. He sprained his foot according to the Celts commentators.

[WNBA]

Originally posted by hooroo
who's been filling in for yao at center?

MoT:eek:

[TECH]

LOL, Yao looked like he was about to have a heart attack out there before he could get subbed by Mo....Too much running back and forth. :D

[Easy]

Why is Cato not playing?

[hooroo]

Originally posted by TECH
LOL, Yao looked like he was about to have a heart attack out there before he could get subbed by Mo....Too much running back and forth. :D

the only way to build up endurance is to play through the wall. keep him on even when he starts to cry i say.

[choujie]

Originally posted by hooroo
the only way to build up endurance is to play through the wall. keep him on even when he starts to cry i say.

That's not the solution for a 7'6 guy.

[ahbuchen]

Originally posted by hooroo
cato & pike being rotated/sick/injured or nachbar & padgett getting shopped?

Looks like Nachbar and Padgett getting shopped

[WNBA]

Originally posted by hooroo
the only way to build up endurance is to play through the wall. keep him on even when he starts to cry i say.

I will prescript a kind of medicine that increases one's endurance
drastically.

[canoner2002]

Once we have a little lead, we tend to ignore Yao's existence. Then we pay for that mistake.

[ivanyy2000]

Originally posted by canoner2002
Once we have a little lead, we tend to ignore Yao's existence. Then we pay for that mistake.


Then Yao should command the ball, it is my ball!!!!!!!!! Ask for it, big guy!!!!!!!!!!1

[user]

Originally posted by canoner2002
Once we have a little lead, we tend to ignore Yao's existence. Then we pay for that mistake.

No, it is just hooroo's plot to improve Yao's endurance by keeping him run up and down on the court. ;)

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by Easy
Why is Cato not playing?

SOme sort of Injury I believe. Ankle?

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by ivanyy2000
Then Yao should command the ball, it is my ball!!!!!!!!! Ask for it, big guy!!!!!!!!!!1
The guy can barely breathe out there, and your asking him to demand something.
BOKI

[London'sBurning]

Man JVG sure did a lot of X and Os with the team after the Celts game because atleast for the most part, they're finding the open man every time. I gotta give JVG credit for knowing how to make the proper adjustments.

[room4rentsf]

when Boki got onto the court he quickly lowered our FG% hehehe.. =P

Go Yao! Go Boki! I hope he can prove something out there.. at least he made a shot what happened to his drives?

J

[London'sBurning]

What a surprise. Francis with two immediate turnovers after checking in at the 6 minute mark.

[WNBA]

SF should be benched.

[sup123]

man i hate steve; he comes back in and gets the ball stolen and throws a bad pass right away.

[mirror_image]

Originally posted by London'sBurning
What a surprise. Francis with two immediate turnovers after checking in at the 6 minute mark.

Hope we can sign Mark Jackson ASAP.

[room4rentsf]

man SF has 7 TO's again? what the heck is going on? is he trying to be too fancy or is the receiver not getting to the ball?

J

Boki is a fouling machine! so is scott

[Texas Stoke]

Thats it. I've had enough of Steve Francis. is he trying to let Boston make it a game....

[ivanyy2000]

4 AST and 7 TOs

Unbelievable, Steve Francis

[Xenogears]

Back to back 7 turnover games for francis and as usual Yao doesn't get to shoot in the 2nd half.:rolleyes:

[WNBA]

Originally posted by London'sBurning
What a surprise. Francis with two immediate turnovers after checking in at the 6 minute mark.

It is normal for a player got back to back 7 TO.

[London'sBurning]

Francis 4 assists and 7 turnovers so far. Disgusting performance. I had to look it up after those two TOs. The guy is capable of creating momentum when he's on, but he absolutely kills it with his lazy play.

[Bobliu]

Originally posted by sup123
man i hate steve; he comes back in and gets the ball stolen and throws a bad pass right away.

Well, Stevie's stats are so far supporting you: 4 assists and 7 turnovers.

[sup123]

so when is francis gonna be shopped.

[jlwee]

Cat to the rescue...

[room4rentsf]

Great Game everyone.. Garbage Time!

J

[Texas Stoke]

The thing about it is, the previous game against Boston Francis had 7 turnovers which ultimatly cost us the game. Now I know why JVG points that out even after wins. And the other thing about it is is that whenever the Rockets get a lead, Francis, and Mobley to a lesser extent, seem to think this is football and their Eddie George out there working some clock managment by holding the ball the entire possession and this is when theres still a quarter and a half to play.

[ymc]

That's how he leads the A/TO category. :mad:

[KaiSeR SoZe]

Great overall game by Yao and Cat. Padgett did good on the boards also. Who's next?

[ivanyy2000]

Boston announcers are really high on Yao. Tommy just said Yao will be a GREAT GREAT player if ball is going to him.

Unfortunately we need a better point guard.

[jlwee]

wow... yao is padding his stats

[Bobliu]

Yao Ming is done for the day: 21 points, 15 rebounds, and 4 blocks.

This is what I would expect Yao day-in and day-out. Would you think anyone would even mention trading Yao if he did this every game? Even if someone would it would probably talking about trading Yao for Tim.

[sup123]

Originally posted by ahbuchen
Looks like Nachbar and Padgett getting shopped

i dont think there getting shopped. pike has not been playing well and i think jvg is trying to give boki a chance.

[Texas Stoke]

That first half with all the cutting and moving and passing was fun to watch. Too bad we got such a comfortable lead in the middle of the third and all that had to come to a stop. Good win though. But damn Steve is going to have to play alot better if we're going to win against Minnesota Saturday.

[moestavern19]

BOSTJAN THREE PARTY

[oliver_67]

If Yao gives this kind of performance on a daily basis, Houston would be a top 3 team in the West and Yao would be league MVP.

I am very very disappointed by Steve's play tonight. WTF with all the stupid TOs which led to layups by opposing teams? And he, along with Cat, held the ball way too long in their hands after we got the big lead.

[user]

Originally posted by KaiSeR SoZe
Great overall game by Yao and Cat. Padgett did good on the boards also. Who's next?

BOKI FG 2/5 for 8 pts. 4 PF :)

[London'sBurning]

Yeah he never really had much of a shot at padding them during the important parts of the game. I don't particuarly care though. He opened up the perimeter buckets for us and gave great inside presence. I don't like it when we dribble the ball down til there's 10 seconds left on the clock and finally run a play. Yao did his part, Mobley did his, Padgett stepped up, and Wilks actually extended the lead when he was out there again. He's a real speed demon. Only dissapointment was Francis but the outcome was a win so one bad performance from him didn't cost us the game this time thankfully. We'll need him at his best if we're going to beat Minny at home since it doesn't appear he's going to be shopped anytime soon. We're stuck with him, and if he could just learn to play smarter ball and we could get the most out of his game on a consistent basis no one here would be talking about trading him. It just seems like he'll have a great game once out of every 10 games and have 9 mediocre or subpar games after that. Not enough consistency out of him.

[KaiSeR SoZe]

Crap! we're playing the Wolves?! I was hoping for 3 in a row! Hopefully we can win it but damn its Minny!

[sup123]

Originally posted by oliver_67
If Yao gives this kind of performance on a daily basis, Houston would be a top 3 team in the West and Yao would be league MVP.

I am very very disappointed by Steve's play tonight. WTF with all the stupid TOs which led to layups by opposing teams? And he, along with Cat, held the ball way too long in their hands after we got the big lead.

he been getting turnover after turnvoer almost every game. GET RID OF THE FRANCHISE!!!

[KaiSeR SoZe]

Paul Pierce didn't play well either but at least we still go the win

[London'sBurning]

Argh I'm having another postwhore night again. I hope Cato's injury isn't too bad, and that Yao's injury was nothing more then him banging knees with someone and that it's nothing more then that. Him hurting his legs would pretty much mean his career. All that weight can't afford to have weak support on his legs.

[jlwee]

seems to me boki is a better 3 point shooter than pike :(

[Texas Stoke]

Originally posted by London'sBurning
Argh I'm having another postwhore night again. I hope Cato's injury isn't too bad, and that Yao's injury was nothing more then him banging knees with someone and that it's nothing more then that. Him hurting his legs would pretty much mean his career. All that weight can't afford to have weak support on his legs.

I was thinking the same thing there when I saw that but I really don't think Yao will ever injure those freaking monster tree trunks he has for legs(knocking on wood). Thats the good thing about his gigantic legs, although he lumbers a bit and cannot jump high because of them, he may never seriously injure them because they are sturdy as large boulders.

[Pau. Leu]

Originally posted by ZRB
The Rockets should be seeking revenge against the Celtics, and show no mercy. A loss would be a terrible embarrassment. No way should the Rockets EVER be swept by an Eastern Conference team.

......

Anyway, no chance here.

Rockets: 68
Celtics: 110

Yao disappears again with only 2 points on 1-5 shooting, and 3 rebounds. Francis scores 12 points to lead the Rockets, with 3 assists and 19 turnovers.



:p steve does have 7 turnovers in last 2 games, but when his assitant works well it's no doubt for Rox to rout any team,even LA

[ckahlich001]

TONIGHT THE NUGGETS WILL LOSE TO THE LAKERS.

ROCKETS WILL BE 3RD IN THE MIDWEST BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT

*wishing i had the nba league pass to watch the spurs-twolves game right now*

[choujie]

Originally posted by ckahlich001
TONIGHT THE NUGGETS WILL LOSE TO THE LAKERS.

ROCKETS WILL BE 3RD IN THE MIDWEST BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT

*wishing i had the nba league pass to watch the spurs-twolves game right now*

Not likely. Lakers are missing Shaq,Malone and Kobe.

[jlwee]

and i dont think mavs will have any problems handling the sixers. so by midnight most likely we still be the fifth position

[Blatz]

Originally posted by Blatz
Audio Link

The Zone 1510 am (http://www.1510thezone.com/)

It does work. (I think)

**********Because of NBA restriction you may need to log on at least 30 minutes before the game.***********

-----------------------------------------------------

Did anyone have any luck with this link Saturday?

Did anyone use this link tonight and if so did it work??

It's the same link I posted the last time The Rockets played Boston and I never got a response from someone who used it so I still don't know if it works or not. If it did or didn't Please let me know so I can mark it down as OK or keep looking. - Thanks

[farhan007]

Originally posted by sup123
he been getting turnover after turnvoer almost every game. GET RID OF THE FRANCHISE!!!
is your sole purpose in this board to just bash the guy and pushing and pushing to trade him??

[farhan007]

Originally posted by Xenogears
Back to back 7 turnover games for francis and as usual Yao doesn't get to shoot in the 2nd half.:rolleyes:
o ya, we won

[sup123]

Originally posted by farhan007
is your sole purpose in this board to just bash the guy and pushing and pushing to trade him??

yes, everyones entitled to there own opinion.

[RocketGuy3]

I love Stevie, and based on the box scores I've been seeing, I think that he's been doing pretty well lately, but can somebody who's been watching the game tell me why/how he's been turning over the ball so much past few games???

Preferably as objectively as possible.

[SmeggySmeg]

where's the millions of threads tonight claiming all is ucked, the rocket sky is falling and we need to trade everybody..... damn am radio mentality... surely if you going to be that negative when they lose then you could at least give them cred when they win.

[francis 4 prez]

i was a little worried when i came here people would be talking about the comfortable 15 point road win we just had, or yao ming's awesome game, or scott padgett's solid performance, or maybe the fact our offense scored over 90 for the 4th straight game for the first time all season, but luckily everyone's still focused on bashing steve still. phew.

[annthuyn]

Originally posted by SmeggySmeg
where's the millions of threads tonight claiming all is ucked, the rocket sky is falling and we need to trade everybody..... damn am radio mentality... surely if you going to be that negative when they lose then you could at least give them cred when they win.


naah.. because according to someone, paul pierce wasn't playing well :rolleyes:

[sun12]

I am not worried about SF. His TO number will go down once Rox gets a backup PG.

I am more curious about the PF position. Did Boston still double team Yao a lot when Padget is on the court? If the answer is no. Then it is really a puzzle for the Rox. Even though Cato is our best defensive big man, his offensive skill could really be a liability.

In the zone era, it seems everybody needs to be able to shoot the ball for the team to succeed on a consistent basis.

[London'sBurning]

K here's my trade proposal. Steve should be traded :P Watching the Spurs vs T-Wolves game and it's making me realize how much I loved Cassell in a Rockets uniform. The guy is single handedly keeping the T-Wolves in the game right now with Garnett in foul trouble on the bench. It'd be nice to a have legit PG, instead a mediocre/sub par PG that's small for the SG position.

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by sup123
yes, everyones entitled to there own opinion.

allright, just go over THERE --------->>>>>>>>>(HERE) (http://www.sports-boards.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=85)
and spew your non rocket opinions

[francis 4 prez]

i forgot that this was my last bill and calvin game before going back to school (on abc on saturday) and trying to get LP to play them.

they were ruthless on blount tonight. calvin just cracked up after the second time blount blew an easy layup. after they third they laughed even more and calvin said "every time blount hears the name yao ming he's gonna twitch" and then finally blount got fouled on a layup and they laughed even more about how he was glad he got fouled so he wouldn't miss it. hopefully the blount family wasn't watching, but it was hilarious.

[boiler]

Originally posted by Blatz
Did anyone use this link tonight and if so did it work??

It's the same link I posted the last time The Rockets played Boston and I never got a response from someone who used it so I still don't know if it works or not. If it did or didn't Please let me know so I can mark it down as OK or keep looking. - Thanks

Yeah, it worked very well. Thanks. I was wondering why Rox don't have a such online radio.

[Compgeek]

Originally posted by adeelsiddiqui
allright, just go over THERE --------->>>>>>>>>(HERE) (http://www.sports-boards.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=85)
and spew your non rocket opinions

What? SF is no longer in the Rockets? When did it happen? In that case, no more opinions.

Moron.

[ckahlich001]

Not likely. Lakers are missing Shaq,Malone and Kobe.

just to let you know, the score after the 1st quarter is

nuggets 16
lakers 26



looks like class is in session and some kiddos are learning from some veterans that you overlooked.

also, where is this game at? whuh? huh? yes. L.A.

[ckahlich001]

and yes i did know that kobe shaq and the mailman are out right now before i made my prediction.

[Hippieloser]

Originally posted by RocketGuy3
I love Stevie, and based on the box scores I've been seeing, I think that he's been doing pretty well lately, but can somebody who's been watching the game tell me why/how he's been turning over the ball so much past few games???

Preferably as objectively as possible.

Well, I don't like excuses, but Boston's defensive game plan centered around sandwiching Yao and harrassing Steve the whole game. He started out well with 4 assists in the first half but just never found his rhythm the whole game. I'd say about half of it was the Celtics double teams on the perimeter and the other half was sloppy, frustrated play on his part.

[farhan007]

Originally posted by francis 4 prez
i was a little worried when i came here people would be talking about the comfortable 15 point road win we just had, or yao ming's awesome game, or scott padgett's solid performance, or maybe the fact our offense scored over 90 for the 4th straight game for the first time all season, but luckily everyone's still focused on bashing steve still. phew.
atleast this board is really consistant:D

[Noise]

Originally posted by Blatz
Did anyone use this link tonight and if so did it work??

It's the same link I posted the last time The Rockets played Boston and I never got a response from someone who used it so I still don't know if it works or not. If it did or didn't Please let me know so I can mark it down as OK or keep looking. - Thanks

Yes, it works and thx. However last time they were talking baseball or something else.

[saleem]

I hope Cato will be back soon.We need his defense and rebounding. Does anyone know how long he will be out for?
Yao did well. I'm glad he is starting to bounce back.I didn't get to see the game.
Did Yao look well in the 2nd half? I hope he is fit for the next game.

[ergo]

Wow! Dallas is losing to the 76ers! 105-102 2 minutes to go. If Denver the proceeds to lose to the Lakers, then my day would be complete.:D
If all goes as planned we will be third in the Ultra competitive Midwest division after tonight! Yeah!

[AGBee]

For all the people with boners for Eric Snow, he probably cost the 76ers the game with a turnover in the closing seconds of the game.

[ckahlich001]

For all the people with boners for Eric Snow, he probably cost the 76ers the game with a turnover in the closing seconds of the game.

i know *cringe* i saw that!

but actually that was me. i opened my big mouth and said "76ers are going to win! rockets are mooovin on up!" and then that turnover. sorry.

[poison]

Originally posted by sun12

I am more curious about the PF position. Did Boston still double team Yao a lot when Padget is on the court? If the answer is no. Then it is really a puzzle for the Rox. Even though Cato is our best defensive big man, his offensive skill could really be a liability.



Yeah!:)

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by Compgeek
What? SF is no longer in the Rockets? When did it happen? In that case, no more opinions.

Moron.

My bad, I meant ANTI- ROCKETS.
Use common sense dawg

[Rockets2K]

Originally posted by michecon
Here's some interesting conversation in the chat:

I was joking Yao is done for the night since he's got his 19 points in the half already. Some R2K jerk jump in and comment I don't need to be there since all I care was Yao anyway. and Yao-only-fan, blah, blah, blah...

Then I got booted for calling that full of shiiiit.


Really sad.

way to leave out the crap you were saying before that..:rolleyes:

poor michecon...cant take the heat..stay outta the kitchen

[Compgeek]

Originally posted by adeelsiddiqui
My bad, I meant ANTI- ROCKETS.
Use common sense dawg

Wow, who would have guessed, dude? You must be an English major.

[Yetti]

Originally posted by saleem
I hope Cato will be back soon.We need his defense and rebounding. Does anyone know how long he will be out for?
Yao did well. I'm glad he is starting to bounce back.I didn't get to see the game.
Did Yao look well in the 2nd half? I hope he is fit for the next game.

Salem the Game was very strange! The first half looked like the Rockets were clicking, crisp passes, positioning and good team Basketball. Yao Ming played well. The second half Yao Ming seemed to deliberately disappear from being involved and the style of the Game returned to ways of old.When Yao Ming made an effort to be involved he was ignored by the selfish play of the Guards.

[saleem]

Thank You Yetti. Veteran experience with a cool head is what we need whenever things go wrong.It will be interesting to see if Mark Jackson is fit enough to contribute as a backup PG.

[adeelsiddiqui]

Originally posted by Compgeek
Wow, who would have guessed, dude? You must be an English major.

;)

[ergo]

Originally posted by AGBee
For all the people with boners for Eric Snow, he probably cost the 76ers the game with a turnover in the closing seconds of the game.
Well he redeemed himself by stealing the ball and making a layup to pull the 76ers within 2 during the 2nd ot. :)

[AGBee]

Originally posted by ergo
Well he redeemed himself by stealing the ball and making a layup to pull the 76ers within 2 during the 2nd ot. :)

He's lucky the refs didn't call a foul for getting all of Nash's arm :D

Anyway, 76ers fall in 2OT.

[ergo]

ARRRRGH! Stupid Sixers! Can't make their freethrows. They had 2 opportunities to tie it with a freethrow and they missed both of them! Damn. :mad:
Oh well, at least the Nuggets are losing. :D
Not a bad day.

[ayears]

Can Celtics move THE GREAT WALL?
Yao's answer: 21 points, 15 boards, 4 blocks.
Yao declared 'Don't treat me with disdain just because of average 8.3 point in last 3 games with Celtics. If I want to attact,give you 19 points at Half-time.If I decide to defensive,present you two blocks in 10 seconds,OK? LOL. :D :D :D

[ergo]

Postgames quote from NBA.com:
"Yao did a great job," Van Gundy said. "I thought he passed the ball better. He was more active and assertive but also, particularly in the first half, we passed the ball much better. I think we passed the ball better as a team (and) Yao hit a couple of jump shots. He seems to play better when he is not locked into that low post all the time."
Seems like Van Gundy is finally getting it. I hope he realizes that Yao's offense shouldn't be limited to the low post. While it's all very well to develop Yao's inside game, it would also be a waste not to take advantage of his range and shooting touch from the outside.

[francis 4 prez]

it took jvg, a guy we're paying 5 million a year to figure things out, 37 games to figure out yao ming can hit a jump shot? i've been saying this since the middle of last year, let the man shoot some jump shots. he shoots them well, is rarely guarded that far out, and is tall enough to get his shot off even when challenged. it shouldn't be reserved for special defenses like the celtics, it should be an integral part of the game plan. he hit a few early jumpers, played better in the post, cut better. stop planting yao down low dammit.


that is all.

[ragingFire]

Good game from most everyone.

Yao brought his shooting touch and positioned a little better. A big credit has to go to his teammates for looking for him and giving him the rock at all the right places. If my math is right, 1st half, Mobley 4 assists to Yao, MoT 2, Steve 1. Who said you can't get assists passing to a big man?

Cat and MoT played a super game, they shot well, assisted and played good defense.

JJ had an average game in the box score but he was awesome on defense. He played the main part in Pierce's 1 for 10 night.

Padgett, Boki, Wilks did a decent job.

I questioned Jeff's coaching in the last game against the Celtics. Look like he solved most of the problems.

1) The double on Yao before he gets the ball is solved with MoT and Padgett cutting hard to the FT line. From there they can knock down the J or feed the ball into the post. We also swing the ball quicker and look for other passing angle or to explore other possibilities.

2) We paid close attention to Welsh, and Mc Carty in addition to Pierce. We left James and Banks open but I guess it's the price you have to pay.

[Roc Paint]

Originally posted by Roc Paint
It's bean baggin time.

Rockets 94

Boston 77

Close but no cigar.

[ragingFire]

Originally posted by francis 4 prez
i forgot that this was my last bill and calvin game before going back to school (on abc on saturday) and trying to get LP to play them.

they were ruthless on blount tonight. calvin just cracked up after the second time blount blew an easy layup. after they third they laughed even more and calvin said "every time blount hears the name yao ming he's gonna twitch" and then finally blount got fouled on a layup and they laughed even more about how he was glad he got fouled so he wouldn't miss it. hopefully the blount family wasn't watching, but it was hilarious.
I think I heard the players call out on the court " block that shot Yao, block that shot Yao" on several occasions even though Yao was several feet from the play. I think that scared Blount into missing 2, 3 open layups. That and the real blocks he had.

[fietguy]

scaring people miss layups is a great asset a shot blocker gives you...yao doesn't get enough credit for this...blount is a seven footer...they dont miss point blank shots unless they scared

[ragingFire]

Originally posted by London'sBurning
Man JVG sure did a lot of X and Os with the team after the Celts game because atleast for the most part, they're finding the open man every time. I gotta give JVG credit for knowing how to make the proper adjustments.
I agree.
We ran a lot of diff plays last night.
1) The old double hi-post screen that we had not run much lately.

2) Against double-team of Yao in the lo post before he gets the ball, MoT or Padgett cut hard to the FT circle to get the ball for the J or the feed from there. We did this on occasions before but never so sure, so determined like last night.

3) There is also a brand new play I haven't seen before. MoT receives ball near top of FT circle with back to the basket. Screens are set on either side of the paint. Steve starts outside, runs off MoT's screen and one side toward the basket. Cat starts from the base line runs of the other screen toward the wing. Steve got a nice wide open dunk from MoT's feed. We also had some other decent looks if I recall correctly.

The combination of the those and some other stuffs we usually ran (screen on the wing, single screen up top ... ) made it hard for the Celtics to anticipate our moves. Hence some of the good looks.

[ragingFire]

Originally posted by Yetti
Salem the Game was very strange! The first half looked like the Rockets were clicking, crisp passes, positioning and good team Basketball. Yao Ming played well. The second half Yao Ming seemed to deliberately disappear from being involved and the style of the Game returned to ways of old.When Yao Ming made an effort to be involved he was ignored by the selfish play of the Guards.
Yetti, you are being to hard on the guards (while being right to a certain extent).

Things changed in the 2nd half.

1) Yao was more tired. He did not fight for position as much.

2) The Celtics determined to stick to Yao and left MoT, Padgett, Cat. They had open looks for the most part so they took them.

3) In the 4th quarter, the Celtics changed up their defense. They switched to double Yao with a guard sagging into the lane from the weak side. Since their PF stayed with MoT (or Padgett), they could not get the ball either to feed the post. The Celtics left a man open on the opposite corner but we have yet learned to swing the ball to him ;)

I think Yao went 1-4 in the second half while others knocked down some shots so I think it worked out OK.

[dragon167]

Some quotes from boston media.

http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/celtics.bg?articleid=292

Indeed, according to Celtics coach Jim O'Brien [news], the fact that normal starter Kelvin Cato missed the game with a sprained left foot actually worked against the Celtics.

``It opened the floor for them,'' said O'Brien. ``(Backup power forwards) Scott Padgett and Mo Taylor have to be honored from the top of the circle. When we heard that Cato was not going to be in there, I said, `Darn.' ''



http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/celtics.bg?articleid=293

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2004/01/15/yao_is_beginning_to_put_the_wow_in_his_game/

Wow, from the articles above Calvin Murphy really likes Yao, very YOF..LOL


I find that media is no different from fans: over-react. One game he's bust, next game he's potential superstar. LOL....

[qrui]

great game although i didn't get to watch it.
from the stats one thing stick out - whoever guard p pierce did a great job. he was 1-10 and 0-4 for three :eek: :D sweet.

[Matador]

some quotes from Calvin Murphy of dragon167's links:

``Superstar,'' said Murphy, who played 13 seasons for Houston from 1970-83. ``Franchise. Franchise player. There can be no doubt. And I'm not talking 10 years from now, either. In basketball if you don't win they make changes. Eventually, if the players don't know how to play with Yao, they'll find some players who can.''

``He has such good skills and such great footwork,'' Murphy said. ``His skills are really on another level. His problem is his team has not learned to play with him yet. The Rockets have always been a guard-oriented team and when they realize there's a new sheriff in town, of course his individual skills are going to go higher. So far he has gone to another level already.''

``First of all, he has to be the primary target,'' Murphy said of Yao. ``Everything has to flow through him and it doesn't yet. He has to be the main focus in order to make everyone else better. And Yao Ming is smart enough to realize to not try to shoot his way to stardom but to make everybody better so they can win and that's what he does.

``He's a tremendous passer. He sees the floor extremely well and he did that last year. I'd like to see him become a little more aggressive. He's a nice guy. Once he sees there are no nice guys in the NBA around the basket he'll get there even quicker.''

[RocketForever]

Originally posted by Matador
``Superstar,'' said Murphy, who played 13 seasons for Houston from 1970-83. ``Franchise. Franchise player. There can be no doubt. And I'm not talking 10 years from now, either. In basketball if you don't win they make changes. Eventually, if the players don't know how to play with Yao, they'll find some players who can.''...

Calvin Murphy really loves Yao...almost an obsession...

[thumbs]

Originally posted by RocketForever
Calvin Murphy really loves Yao...almost an obsession... Are you saying Calvin is really YoYao?:D

[rrj_gamz]

GIVE YAO THE DAMN BALL...

[ttstk123]

"In basketball if you don't win they make changes. Eventually, if the players don't know how to play with Yao, they'll find some players who can.''

"His problem (Yao) is his team has not learned to play with him yet. The Rockets have always been a guard-oriented team and when they realize there's a new sheriff in town, of course his individual skills are going to go higher."

..."And Yao Ming is smart enough to realize to not try to shoot his way to stardom but to make everybody better so they can win...


i know Calvin Murphy is a strong Yao supporter, but i'm still a bit shock by what he said... imagine how SF & Cat felt if they read this

[Hippieloser]

Yao really did play last nite how we've wanted him to all season. He was VERY active the entire first half, and it was clear that he WANTED the ball. Cato's hindrance of the offense was exposed pretty clearly last nite with Padgett and MoT's top-of-the-key intermediate play. If Cato can somehow learn to hit that shot in the offseason, he'd be just what the Rockets need at the PF position.

Yao slowed down a bit in the second as he tired, and the Celtics really focused harder on him on D, but his first half really opened up the perimeter. Yao was only 1 for 4 in the 2nd half, but his presence is what made those big Rocket leads possible. When defenses sag on him like Boston did, we get open shots.

[Tim]

Somebody upstream mentioned that Minnesota is next -- as a public service message, I just thought I'd let people know that there are only 171 tickets left for Saturday's game as of right now. If you want to be in the house, it's best to get a ticket quickly -- we'll likely run out at some point this afternoon.

Tim

[ricerocket]

That's great. Kind a bunks the crappy Houston fans routine going on around here..... I guess they have time to drive in from Katy and The Woodlands Saturday?

FYI, everyone should make a visit down here and check out all the stuff going on around downtown in prep for the Super Bowl. This area is vastly improved. The area around Toyota / GRB is really much improved.... There is a lot of foot traffic on Friday night and SAT/SUN afternoons on Main St. Street parking is free after 6PM Friday.

[Uprising]

Last night's game was a good one. I hope this game on Saturday is good. I have a bad feeling about it.

Well we have a 2 game winning streak and heres to making it three. We need to manhandle KG and LS.

[Easy]

Originally posted by dragon167
``It opened the floor for them,'' said O'Brien. ``(Backup power forwards) Scott Padgett and Mo Taylor have to be honored from the top of the circle. When we heard that Cato was not going to be in there, I said, `Darn.' ''

Hmm, very telling quote from the opponent's coach. Maybe Cato should go back to be the backup center, and let Padgett and Taylor share the PF spot.

But then we'll be giving up some defense. JVG might not like it. Both Padgett and Taylor are not known for their defense. Do you want to trade some defense for some offense?

Also, I notice Mo is a lot more active in rebounding than ever. And Padgett got a ton of rebounds last night too.

[fa7999]

I agree. Yao played as good as you can play in the first half against the Celtics. In the 2rd half, the Celtics were determined to let the other players beat them by sending two players to double Yao all the time, sometimes even a third guard harrassing the passing lane. However, even Yao was not able to put points on the board, he got 8 rebounds and 2 blocks, and created numerous open looks for his teammates.

The funniest thing is that Blount missed 2-3 wide open layups because he was afraid that Yao would block those shots -- even Yao was 4-5 feet away from the basket. LOL.

[reptilexcq]

I agree to let Yao shoot jump shot mores. In fact, he should be shooting as much as he's posting up. When you have a guy who can shoot free throws with consistency, you know he's a good shooter. Just look at all the players in the league who is a shoot FT shooter, you know he's also an overall good shooter as well.

Teach Yao to post up and face up to shoot like Duncan and Webber and Garnett did. This is his type of game. 50% shooting and 50% banging is what i am asking.

[Visagial]

Exactly what I was thinking too. Hope they don't read the paper.

Originally posted by ttstk123
i know Calvin Murphy is a strong Yao supporter, but i'm still a bit shock by what he said... imagine how SF & Cat felt if they read this

[trungvo]

Originally posted by Visagial
Exactly what I was thinking too. Hope they don't read the paper. who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hippieloser]

Well, previous Chronicle articles have pointed out that Steve doesn't read the papers on himself for the sake of his own sanity.

But really, Calvin didn't say that the guards suck. He just said that Yao is the man and that he's who the Rockets are banking on, which is what everyone knows already.

[feishen]

Originally posted by reptilexcq
I agree to let Yao shoot jump shot mores. In fact, he should be shooting as much as he's posting up. When you have a guy who can shoot free throws with consistency, you know he's a good shooter. Just look at all the players in the league who is a shoot FT shooter, you know he's also an overall good shooter as well.

Teach Yao to post up and face up to shoot like Duncan and Webber and Garnett did. This is his type of game. 50% shooting and 50% banging is what i am asking.

NO offense, your name sounds like what "most dermatologists recommend" ;)

[SageHare6]

Originally posted by feishen
NO offense, your name sounds like what "most dermatologists recommend" ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

That is funny!

Yao really does play better when he gets to camp out at the high post and top of the key. I think that's one of the things that really determines how well our offense operates. When Yao is mobile, so is our offense. People move w/o the ball, spacing gets better, and Yao is more energetic. Getting Yao a couple of open looks from the perimeter seems to make him happy too.

It was nice to see him smile.

:D

theSAGE

[angelcds]

Originally posted by reptilexcq
I agree to let Yao shoot jump shot mores. In fact, he should be shooting as much as he's posting up. When you have a guy who can shoot free throws with consistency, you know he's a good shooter. Just look at all the players in the league who is a shoot FT shooter, you know he's also an overall good shooter as well.

Teach Yao to post up and face up to shoot like Duncan and Webber and Garnett did. This is his type of game. 50% shooting and 50% banging is what i am asking.

I totally aggree, who are all these haters like the Tim Leggler and Steve Kerr who, and other scrubs talking about Yao, saying he's 'soft' he's just different. I don't think someone who grabs 9 or 10 boards, is in the top five in blocks is 'soft' you punk. And you are completely right, I've seen every game the past 2 seasons and they've finally figured it out, it took them 5 million dollars, but they got it. Yao doesn't have to be on the low-block to score:eek: . Jeepers creepers he can hit jumpshots like every other big-man in the West??? What a concept??? You mean we can actually run screens??? What is this NEW form of basketball??? Maybe we should try it some more...:confused: And now that we have Mark Jackson, maybe Steve will learn something instead getting technicals from his temper tantrums during the game. Let him see how a real guard not just a point guard should play. Everyone says point guard, but all guards need to know how to manage the flow of the game. JJackson is pretty good at that, and so is Mike Wilks. That's pathetic, a rookie is better at mananging the game than your so-called franchise player??? Though I wonder if we're in a close game who will get benched? Steve, Cutino, Jackson, Yao, or Cato for Mark to play??? Lord knows we lose all our close games. . .