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Lil Francis
10-28-2003, 01:03 PM
I think the Texans should give him a shot. When he was playing he was one of the best DT's in the game and with Walker and Payne hurt he could make an instant impact on the defensive line.
giddyup
10-28-2003, 01:09 PM
I forget... what was his crime? How much help can a guy be immediately when he has been out of football for awhile?

Intriguing talent, though...
Groogrux
10-28-2003, 01:17 PM
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/shared/sports/ap/ap_story.html/Football/AP.V8883.AP-FBN-Raiders-Rus.html
Groogrux
10-28-2003, 01:18 PM
I meant to add, I'd prefer not to sign him.
Lil Francis
10-28-2003, 01:26 PM
You can't turn your back on a guy just because he made a mistake. If he can help the club out Im all for it and once he gets back in shape this guy could be a steal for the Texans. He is big, quick for his size, and has the ability to dominate a game. You can't be picky when you have Jerry DeLoach, and Cory Sears starting on the D-Line.
Groogrux
10-28-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Lil Francis
You can't turn your back on a guy just because he made a mistake.

Sure you can and he's made more than one mistake.
Buck Turgidson
10-28-2003, 01:29 PM
He's a scumbag, one of the biggest self-imposed wastes of talent in the history of the NFL. Not exactly the kind of guy a second year organization that touts it's "class" likes to sign. Think about it - the frikkin Raiders released him for personal problems.

He and Spurrier/Snyder sound like a match made in heaven though.
pgabriel
10-28-2003, 01:34 PM
Class gets you Bagwell Biggio and no rings.

I'll prefer the Texans to just pick the best players. Not saying they should pick up this guy, but in general, if a guy can play, please take him.
Groogrux
10-28-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by pgabriel
Class gets you Bagwell Biggio and no rings.

If the only alternative is rapists and drug users and rings, then I'll pass. I want to be able to root for my team without feeling like I've compromised my morals later.
Yao Wink
10-28-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by pgabriel
Not saying they should pick up this guy, but in general, if a guy can play, please take him.

Quick, lets pick up Lawrence Phillips. ;)
Buck Turgidson
10-28-2003, 01:42 PM
Diff'rent strokes I suppose. I find it extremely hard, bordering on impossible, to take pride in and root for individuals whom I cannot respect. The last thing I want in a Houston team, winning be damned, is a collection of miscreants and convicts ala the Cowboys & others.
pgabriel
10-28-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
If the only alternative is rapists and drug users and rings, then I'll pass. I want to be able to root for my team without feeling like I've compromised my morals later.

I'm sure the Dallas Cowboy fans got over compromising their morals in 92 93 and 95.

Did you feel the same way when Vernon Maxwell was one of the better players for the Rockets in 94?
Buck Turgidson
10-28-2003, 01:44 PM
To be clear...I was refering to the Irvin/Newton/E.Williams/numerous other scumbags on the Cowboys during their "glory" years.
Groogrux
10-28-2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by pgabriel
I'm sure the Dallas Cowboy fans got over compromising their morals in 92 93 and 95.

Good for them...I guess

Did you feel the same way when Vernon Maxwell was one of the better players for the Rockets in 94?

In a way, yeah. But, I don't recall Vernon having that many problems before that season. It all really came to a head the next season, IIRC.
pgabriel
10-28-2003, 02:02 PM
I'm more embarassed that our two key guys feel free to swing at pitches in the dirt when it comes to facing the Braves in the Playoffs.

I don't understand why people feel the need to have such high character guys on their Sports Teams, it just doesn't bother me, as long as it doesn't affect team chemistry.

I'd be much more embarassed if Jesse the Body Ventura was the govenor of my state.

If Darrell Russell was a Texan when he got in all that trouble, I would be bothered that an individual could be so immature, and I would be bothered because it actually affected his playing status, but as far as being a Texan fan, I wouldn't be embarassed or feel I'm compromising my morals.

They're just athletes. They're not running for public office, and they don't represent me even if I root for that team.

But as you said, different strokes.
Lil Francis
10-28-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
If the only alternative is rapists and drug users and rings, then I'll pass. I want to be able to root for my team without feeling like I've compromised my morals later. Randy Moss has been in trouble with the law plenty of times in college and in the pros so are you telling me you wouldn't take him because he has a record? You have to look past the old stuff and look towards the future. Just because Russell has been in trouble before does not mean he can't clean up his act and be an impact player again. He is a human being which means he is not perfect. You can't turn your nose up at a guy because he made mistakes.
xiki
10-28-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
If the only alternative is rapists and drug users and rings, then I'll pass. I want to be able to root for my team without feeling like I've compromised my morals later.

Amen.

Win. with class, baby.
bigtexxx
10-28-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Rocketman95
If the only alternative is rapists and drug users and rings, then I'll pass. I want to be able to root for my team without feeling like I've compromised my morals later.

Kinda like cheering for Tim Moss and Cedric Benson?

muahahahahaha
MadMax
10-28-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Lil Francis
He is a human being which means he is not perfect. You can't turn your nose up at a guy because he made mistakes.

you're acting as if he's condemning the man...he's not...he's just saying he'd rather him not be on his favorite football team. of course the man should get another chance, whether it be in football or elsewhere...but if i'm bob mcnair and it's my millions on the line, i'm not signing him, either.
Groogrux
10-28-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by bigtexxx
Kinda like cheering for Tim Moss and Cedric Benson?

Kinda. I don't like what Cedric Benson did a few weeks ago at all...neither did the team. Also, to clarify, I mean drugs other than marijuana, mainly steroids.

As far as the Moss thing, I'm pretty sure that the guy whose ass he kicked had done something to his girlfriend that warranted that, if it's ever warranted.
Lil Francis
10-28-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by MadMax
you're acting as if he's condemning the man...he's not...he's just saying he'd rather him not be on his favorite football team. of course the man should get another chance, whether it be in football or elsewhere...but if i'm bob mcnair and it's my millions on the line, i'm not signing him, either. Why not? Give me your reason why you wouldn't sign him? I gave you my reason why the Texans should pick him up.
mateo
10-28-2003, 10:29 PM
That guy used to smoke so much pot when he went to SC.
MadMax
10-29-2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Lil Francis
Why not? Give me your reason why you wouldn't sign him? I gave you my reason why the Texans should pick him up.

because the texans are trying to create an identity...and they don't want that identity built around players immersed in legal problems. i believe in second chances, big time...but this is a high profile industry we're talking about here. bob mcnair has set some standards he expects players to live to...he's not gonna go out and sign players who already have proven they're not willing to live to those standards. in addition...you don't want to surround a nucleus of very young players with older vets who have been in and out of trouble with the law. not the wisest idea considering the millions these guys are paid at a very young age.
Groogrux
10-29-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
He and Spurrier/Snyder sound like a match made in heaven though.

Remind me to get some lottery numbers from you next time we have a beer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1649682
moestavern19
10-29-2003, 04:16 PM
The Texans already have an ex-Raider Defensive Tackle in Junior Ioane (BTW, La'Roi Glover rotted on the Raiders depth chart much like Ioane)

The Raiders took Russell #2 overall when they had really traded up to take Orlando Pace who went #1 to the Rams. Russell had a couple good seasons and made the pro bowl, he started to decline after a while, by the time he was getting into trouble the Raiders Orginization was already looking to get rid of him.

I would hope he has gotten his life back together.