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nWo34Life
10-23-2003, 05:04 PM
Didn't see a thread started for this....

Do the Texans have a chance? Good decision making in putting in Davis and Mccree instead of Mack and that S.O.B. Stevens....

What's the score going to be this week?

Remix
10-23-2003, 05:43 PM
I see another Titan game coming up.

How much longer is Glenn going to be out?

Colts-38
Texans- 17

codell
10-23-2003, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Remix
I see another Titan game coming up.

How much longer is Glenn going to be out?

Colts-38
Texans- 17

Glenn will supposedly play.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2174234

PhiSlammaJamma
10-23-2003, 06:38 PM
Must win to stay in playoff race.

Joshfast
10-23-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by PhiSlammaJamma
Must win to stay in playoff race.

Must lose to get high draft picks ;)

Colts: 38
Texans: 13

A-Train
10-23-2003, 07:17 PM
Manning is going carve up the Texans secondary like Thanksgiving turkey...

eric.81
10-23-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by smashfast
Must lose to get high draft picks ;)

Colts: 38
Texans: 13

I agree... with a similar prediction about the score. Let's get that safety from Miami, a top notch corner, or a big ass nose tackle that swallows opposing running backs whole.

tierre_brown
10-23-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by A-Train
Manning is going carve up the Texans secondary like Thanksgiving turkey...

He'll have to if the Colts plan to use Edge sparingly in his return from injury (only probable) and with the absence of almost all of their other RB. If Glenn is back, then it might be a little harder on Manning, but he is looking like an MVP candidate this year...

Colts 41
Texans 17

Lil Francis
10-23-2003, 11:31 PM
Colts 34
Texans 17


Davis 85rushing yds 60 receiving
Carr 220yds 1td 2Ints
Johnson 5catches 93yds

Joshfast
10-23-2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by eric.81
I agree... with a similar prediction about the score. Let's get that safety from Miami, a top notch corner, or a big ass nose tackle that swallows opposing running backs whole.

Still thinking Nose Takle because you can find Safties in the later rounds. But any can't miss defensive prospect is fine with me.

ima_drummer2k
10-24-2003, 12:35 AM
The Colts are coming off a loss and a bye-week. Not good...

Colts 38-17 sounds about right. :(

BTW, if you're hoping we lose so we can get higher draft picks, you're not a fan.

DavidS
10-24-2003, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Lil Francis
Colts 34
Texans 17
Davis 85rushing yds 60 receiving
Carr 220yds 1td 2Ints
Johnson 5 catches 93yds


Colts 31
Texans 24

More catches for Johnson/Miller, but Davis still nears 105.

tierre_brown
10-24-2003, 02:45 AM
3 picks for Carr

DD gets 98 rushing and 55 receiving

AJ gets 4 catches for 98 yards and 1 TD

Austin70
10-25-2003, 09:24 AM
Can Davis last the rest of the season rushing as hard as he does? I liked him since the first time I saw him run, hard and the legs always moving.

DavidS
10-25-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Austin70
Can Davis last the rest of the season rushing as hard as he does? I liked him since the first time I saw him run, hard and the legs always moving.

Depends on his natual gifts...

Rozier, White and Brown all had a low center of gravity, strong, stocky bodies.

The 5'10", 225lb, Earl Campbell body was caveated with "feak of nature" 32" legs!

Emmit Smiht was a 5'9" 209 package. Strong in both leg and arms.

Just depends on Davis's natural gifts (he's a solid package at 5'9" 216"). So, he should hold up if he takes care of himself, and really has dedication in the gym as well as nutrition.

rrj_gamz
10-25-2003, 11:02 AM
Texans 14

Colts 299

But seriously, EG is back and i'm glad AG will be on MH, but I can't see this being a close game...I love DD and I'm am happy Matt "I suck" Stevens isn't starting...

Go Texans!!!

eric.81
10-25-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by rrj_gamz
Texans 14

Colts 299

But seriously, EG is back and i'm glad AG will be on MH, but I can't see this being a close game...I love DD and I'm am happy Matt "I suck" Stevens isn't starting...

Go Texans!!!

Eddie Griffin finally showed up?

eric.81
10-25-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by smashfast
Still thinking Nose Takle because you can find Safties in the later rounds. But any can't miss defensive prospect is fine with me.

Of the three positions that I named, does anyone know about a "can't miss" prospect coming out of college at those positions?

Lil Francis
10-25-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by eric.81
Of the three positions that I named, does anyone know about a "can't miss" prospect coming out of college at those positions? Sean Taylor (safety), Tommie Harris (DT) and Marlon Jackson (CB).

ths balla
10-25-2003, 05:17 PM
48 - 10
Manning and Harrison are going to destroy the Texans

Truth
10-25-2003, 07:49 PM
My Bold Prediction:
Texans 24
Colts 20


Texans:
David Carr: 294 yrds, 1 TD, 0 INT's.
Andre Johnson: 7rec, 112 yds, 1 TD.
Dominick Davis: 24 carries, 121 yds, 1 TD
Stacey Mack: 11 carries, 32 yds. 1 TD.

Colts:
Peyton Manning: 313 yds, 2 TD's, 1 INT.
Marvin Harrison: 9 rec, 132 yds, 2 TD's
Edgerrin James: 14 carries, 39 yds.
Mike Vanderjagt: 2 FG's


I'm a homer. What can I say....

tierre_brown
10-25-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Truth
My Bold Prediction:
Texans 24
Colts 20


Texans:
David Carr: 294 yrds, 1 TD, 0 INT's.
Andre Johnson: 7rec, 112 yds, 1 TD.
Dominick Davis: 24 carries, 121 yds, 1 TD
Stacey Mack: 11 carries, 32 yds. 1 TD.

Colts:
Peyton Manning: 313 yds, 2 TD's, 1 INT.
Marvin Harrison: 9 rec, 132 yds, 2 TD's
Edgerrin James: 14 carries, 39 yds.
Mike Vanderjagt: 2 FG's


I'm a homer. What can I say....

I don't know what's more surprising:

Texans winning

Or

Carr throwing NO picks

sweetie
10-26-2003, 02:34 PM
Why defense? Whats the point of drafting a D player if the Texans are having trouble scoring more than 20ppg and Carr cant throw more than 200 ypg? We need more playmakers. Hence,I want Winslow. You could put Gaffney,Andre,Winslow,Davis,Bradford all in the game at the same time and we would average about 33ppg and it would give our D a rest so that in turn makes our D look better with the extra rest. Right now our D looks bad because our Offense is always 3 and out,3 and out.

score I think : colts 38 texans 17

rocketfan83
10-26-2003, 02:52 PM
Colts- 31

Texans- 6

Uprising
10-26-2003, 03:57 PM
A damn, today is the day when we have to move our clocks back an hour. It makes my day that much longer, BUT now I have to wait 1 more hour for the Texans game!!!:mad:

I was already to watch it, I was wondering if they were just going to exit the denver game or make me miss the begining of the Texan's game. but then...DUH...checked the clock on my pc and it was set back an hour! :p

drapg
10-26-2003, 04:08 PM
Colts - 34
Texans - 18

fatman510
10-26-2003, 04:12 PM
texans will win 21-20 :)

Nick
10-26-2003, 04:23 PM
Looks like the idiot playcalling came on the road-trip this week.

3rd and 20... chance to get into FG range... and we run?!?

Who cares even if they pick it off deep... its like a gorified punt then.

codell
10-26-2003, 04:23 PM
Running play on 3rd and 20.

Weak.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 04:26 PM
That is the worst running game I have ever seen!

Tackled 3 times in a row, as soon as the RB gets the handoff.

Carr looks damn good with his passing so far, I love the idea of opening up the game with the PA...too bad we have no running game so far. :mad:

JBIIRockets
10-26-2003, 04:28 PM
The austin audience didn't get the game until 10:30 left in the first and we pretty much missed the Texans first possesion...did CBS pick it up from kickoff in Houston?

I hate 3 pm starts sometimes.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 04:33 PM
First sack and counting.....

fatman510
10-26-2003, 04:34 PM
we look bad today
(except for those two passes and our defence)
but our running game looks like crap

Uprising
10-26-2003, 04:40 PM
Great...the Colts are starting to roll through the Texans....

30yrd pass, after a 15yrd run.

JBIIRockets
10-26-2003, 04:48 PM
are the texans not conditioned on defense? I mean it seems like everytime I watch them, they have multiple players go down every game, whereas I dont see that for the opposing team.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 04:49 PM
David Carr is out of the game.

Injury to his ankle.

Getting X-Rays in locker ROOM!

We are soooo screwed!!! :( :eek:

fatman510
10-26-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Uprising
David Carr is out of the game.

Injury to his ankle.

Getting X-Rays in locker ROOM!

We are soooo screwed!!! :( :eek:
oh god no, we are doomed
if carr goes out we might possibly lose all of our remaining games this season :(:(

NickC19
10-26-2003, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by JBIIRockets
The austin audience didn't get the game until 10:30 left in the first and we pretty much missed the Texans first possesion...did CBS pick it up from kickoff in Houston?

I hate 3 pm starts sometimes.

I'm 70 miles outside houston but CBS aired it from the opening kickoff here.

-Nick-

DavidS
10-26-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Uprising
David Carr is out of the game.

Injury to his ankle.

Getting X-Rays in locker ROOM!

We are soooo screwed!!! :( :eek:


Frick!!!! :mad:

Right ankel sprain! "Return questionable."

DavidS
10-26-2003, 04:57 PM
ha ha!

Texan's ball! :D

Uprising
10-26-2003, 04:57 PM
WHOOHOOO!!!


the PR man dropped the punt!!! Texans get it back on the 28yrd line!!!


TD time!!!

Uprising
10-26-2003, 04:59 PM
Davis !!!!



Touch Down Texans!!!!

DavidS
10-26-2003, 04:59 PM
HELL Yeah! :D Go DD!

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:00 PM
Nice play.

I bet Carr comes back...he wasn't limping or anything when he was jogging back out of the locker room.

-Nick-

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:06 PM
ahaha 3 and out for Colts
we are looking gooooooooood

Nick
10-26-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by NickC19
Nice play.

I bet Carr comes back...he wasn't limping or anything when he was jogging back out of the locker room.

-Nick-

He's back in...

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Nick
He's back in...

Whew

-Nick-

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:11 PM
wow davis is starting to pick it up

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 05:11 PM
Great 20 yard run by DD.

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:13 PM
Damn....Davis is tearing it up

-Nick-

drapg
10-26-2003, 05:13 PM
13-3.

What the ****???!!@@#$

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:14 PM
Carr to Miler!!!


Touchdown!!!!



100yrds in the first half for Davis!!!!



TOUCHDOWN!!!!

14-3 Texans!!!! :D

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:14 PM
TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!! WOOOOOOHOOOOO
texans winning by 11!

14-3

rocketfan83
10-26-2003, 05:14 PM
wow 14-3

I must say this is pretty shocking.


DD is a hoss. Goodness he will get 100 yards easily, maybe even before halftime

Nick
10-26-2003, 05:14 PM
Carr limped off field again...

JBIIRockets
10-26-2003, 05:15 PM
Dominick Davis is going to be a star, provided that he does not get hurt.

DavidS
10-26-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by drapg
13-3.

What the ****???!!@@#$


drapg,

What happened? Did you go get a sandwich, come back and find the Texans leading? :D

DavidS
10-26-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by JBIIRockets
Dominick Davis is going to be a star, provided that he does not get hurt.

He's a bad-bad man! :cool:

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Nick
Carr limped off field again...

eh...if its a sprain (as long as not a high sprain) he should be ok today as long as he keeps it moving. It'll probably be a different story when he wakes up tomorrow.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:20 PM
OUCH!! See Marcus's truf burn on his elbow?! OUCH!

Damn...the holding is against us...46yrd pass completions and 10yrd holding.

CriscoKidd
10-26-2003, 05:20 PM
DD is ripping them a new one.

Nice to see the texans scoring, it'll keep my fantasy players(Harrison, Edge) in the game. :)

But seriously, DD is kicking ass. Fun to watch.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:22 PM
Coleman!!!


That is killing us! We had them behind the line and now a 15yrd personal foul!!! That was not a 15yrder!!! That was a 5yrder!!!! god dang refs...

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:22 PM
Bad call

Nick
10-26-2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Uprising
Coleman!!!


That is killing us! We had them behind the line and now a 15yrd personal foul!!! That was not a 15yrder!!! That was a 5yrder!!!! god dang refs...

Its ok... since its half the distance to the goaline, it ends up being a 5 yarder anyways.

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:27 PM
my gamecast is messed up.....what is happening down at the goaline? Has indy scored?

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:27 PM
14-10 Texans.

Wong just barely missed the stop. Too bad he didn't fumble when swinging the ball out like that.

Wow...i can't believe we are winning. Keep it up Texans, don't quite now...like last week!!!!!

drapg
10-26-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by fatman510
my gamecast is messed up.....what is happening down at the goaline? Has indy scored?

Yes, TD Marcus Pollard.

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:28 PM
damn

Nick
10-26-2003, 05:29 PM
Carr out again, Banks back in.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:30 PM
Please!!!


Don't just run out the clock...go for a PA!!!

mrdave543
10-26-2003, 05:30 PM
Hopefully David Carr will be ok....stop talking **** about Davis at beginning then jump on the bandwagon

drapg
10-26-2003, 05:30 PM
Let the onslaught begin. :(

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:30 PM
LMAO...great!!

FUMBLE....Texans lose it....Colts ball.

Looks like they are going to score again.

Nick
10-26-2003, 05:31 PM
Ok... worse possible scenario.

We try not to do something stupid by running out the clock, but we fumble... DD needs to hold on to the ball.

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:33 PM
It looks like that colts DL is timing the snap too well and is jumping offsides...maybe not though.

That sucked.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:34 PM
First we fumble...then we commit a pass interfernce!!!

Now the ball is on the 1yrd line!!!


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA....

17-14 Colts at the half.

bigtexxx
10-26-2003, 05:34 PM
Matt Stevens wouldn't have interfered on that pass in the endzone.

Jeff
10-26-2003, 05:34 PM
This is what happens when you play not to lose. IMO, you have to try to make plays with 2 minutes left in the half and playing against one of the most potent offenses in the NFL on the other side of the ball. You don't just try to run the clock out.

Besides, what the hell does this team have to lose? It isn't like they are going to make the playoffs.

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Uprising
First we fumble...then we commit a pass interfernce!!!

Now the ball is on the 1yrd line!!!


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA....

17-14 Colts at the half.

We had a great 1st half going...I'm sure not laughing :mad:

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 05:35 PM
We got what we deserved. We had no business trying to run the clock out with 1:50 left, two timeouts and the ball on the 35.

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by RocketFan007
We got what we deserved. We had no business trying to run the clock out with 1:50 left, two timeouts and the ball on the 35.
yeah we did, we were up 14-10 on the road in a game we were supposed to be getting blown out in. the texans would be extremely happy with a 14-10 halftime lead.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Jeff
This is what happens when you play not to lose. IMO, you have to try to make plays with 2 minutes left in the half and playing against one of the most potent offenses in the NFL on the other side of the ball. You don't just try to run the clock out.

Besides, what the hell does this team have to lose? It isn't like they are going to make the playoffs.


Exactly. They need to start putting their cajones in their offense.

Getting too predictable, especiallly when the half is coming to an end.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by fatman510
yeah we did, we were up 14-10 on the road in a game we were supposed to be getting blown out in. the texans would be extremely happy with a 14-10 halftime lead.

I would be too. but, its not a 14-10 lead.

Now its a 17-14 deficet.

bigtexxx
10-26-2003, 05:39 PM
Coleman is just killing us this game.

On a related note, I saw him at the Red Door lounge drinking on Thursday night.

JBIIRockets
10-26-2003, 05:40 PM
well, that was a shot in tha nuts.

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 05:41 PM
originally posted by fatman510:
yeah we did, we were up 14-10 on the road in a game we were supposed to be getting blown out in. the texans would be extremely happy with a 14-10 halftime lead.

But we're not up 14-10, we're down 17-14. Bad things happen when you play not to lose...

DavidS
10-26-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Jeff
This is what happens when you play not to lose. IMO, you have to try to make plays with 2 minutes left in the half and playing against one of the most potent offenses in the NFL on the other side of the ball. You don't just try to run the clock out.

Besides, what the hell does this team have to lose? It isn't like they are going to make the playoffs.

Yep. Playing not to lose equals, lack of confidence.

NickC19
10-26-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by RocketFan007
We got what we deserved. We had no business trying to run the clock out with 1:50 left, two timeouts and the ball on the 35.

Had we tried to pass it downfield and it got intercepted everyone would be saying we should've run out the clock. Had Davis broken a long run then it was the right call. If it works its a great idea, if it doesn't, it was horrible play-calling.

Jeff
10-26-2003, 05:42 PM
This is a really bad defense and, as much as I think this Texan offense is going to get better and better, trying to hang point-for-point with Indy is a disaster waiting to happen.

Raven Lunatic
10-26-2003, 05:50 PM
Okay, in regards to "playing not to lose", I don't think that seeing ONE play where they hand off to Davis (who has been killing them previous) for a run constitutes "playing not to lose." Had that not worked out (meaning Davis had just been tackled because they were expecting it and he held on to the ball), then we might have gotten more creative. But to lambast them for playing not to lose because they ran on the first play of the drive with 1:50 left is being a bit hasty, to my way of thinking.

Also, the guy that tackled Davis and caused that fumbled looked really offsides to me on that play. It's why he got through the line so fast without being slowed down. I can't believe the officials didn't catch it. Of course, that in no way excuses the fumble by Davis, but it aggravated me that it was missed since it turned out to be such a key play.

DavidS
10-26-2003, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
Okay, in regards to "playing not to lose", I don't think that seeing ONE play where they hand off to Davis (who has been killing them previous) for a run constitutes "playing not to lose." Had that not worked out (meaning Davis had just been tackled because they were expecting it and he held on to the ball), then we might have gotten more creative. But to lambast them for playing not to lose because they ran on the first play of the drive with 1:50 left is being a bit hasty, to my way of thinking.

Also, the guy that tackled Davis and caused that fumbled looked really offsides to me on that play. It's why he got through the line so fast without being slowed down. I can't believe the officials didn't catch it. Of course, that in no way excuses the fumble by Davis, but it aggravated me that it was missed since it turned out to be such a key play.

I think Jeff was talking about "trying to run the clock out" by playing it safe.

Nashvegas
10-26-2003, 05:54 PM
pitts whiffed on that play where davis fumbled :mad:

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:57 PM
oh man....

codell
10-26-2003, 05:58 PM
We have had a ton of plays this year where a receiver has been WIDE open for a huge catch downfield.

How are our opponents getting so wide open??

fatman510
10-26-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by codell
We have had a ton of plays this year where a receiver has been WIDE open for a huge catch downfield.

How are our opponents getting so wide open??
our ****ing safeties....we need to draft sean taylor next year

adw
10-26-2003, 06:00 PM
geez,wish we can rewind back too 14-3 :( :(

codell
10-26-2003, 06:01 PM
21 points in less than 3 minutes. WOW.

Nick
10-26-2003, 06:03 PM
Carr and Glenn are done for the day.

Raven Lunatic
10-26-2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by DavidS
I think Jeff was talking about "trying to run the clock out" by playing it safe.

Yes, I understood that. But claiming that we were trying to run out the clock because they ran on the first play of that drive is being hasty. I mean, you can't very well pass every single play. And thinking that Davis might be able to get some good yardage on what would normally be a passing play for a team in that situation is not necessarily bad thinking...it's just a risk. It all just looks really bad because he fumbled. But like I say, for all we know, if he had held on to the ball and only lost 5 yards instead of fumbling, they might have reverted to a pass attack in order to get into scoring position. We don't know what their game plan really was in that situation.

codell
10-26-2003, 06:13 PM
Has Peyton had an incompletion yet?

Nick
10-26-2003, 06:13 PM
Texans goal right now... try to stop the Colts from covering the spread (which is 13).

SamCassell
10-26-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Nick
Texans goal right now... try to stop the Colts from covering the spread (which is 13).

Not gonna happen. Colts are a runaway freight train.

Nick
10-26-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by SamCassell
Not gonna happen. Colts are a runaway freight train.

You a betting man Sam? Its 13 now, and the Texans are driving.

Why are the damn Vegas oddsmakers soooo good.

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:37 PM
YEAH!!!! TD...DD!!!

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:37 PM
27 to 21...a long time remaining in this one....

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 06:38 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like one of the Colt's DTs jumps offsides every play. He has been on top of the snap count the entire game.

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:39 PM
Davis really does remind me of a younger Emmitt Smith....I know it's so early to truly gauge this guy, but he is showing me something!

adw
10-26-2003, 06:39 PM
DD is the man,COME ONE TEXANS FIGHT !

Nick
10-26-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by RocketFan007
Is it just me, or does it look like one of the Colt's DTs jumps offsides every play. He has been on top of the snap count the entire game.

Yea, I've noticed that too... its just that he's getting a GREAT jump... and if you watch TB, its a staple of all Tony Dungy defenses.

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:41 PM
We got to get this stop...I'm so happy, Glenn (the heart and soul of the team) is back in. What a warrior! DEFENSE!!!

...all of a sudden, James is looking good, though :(

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:43 PM
3rd down...?

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 06:44 PM
Jamie Sharper is really playing a bad game. He's been trucked by James a few times, and James just juked him out of his jock strap.

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:45 PM
Yea,...James shouldn't be skipping through the middle like that!...

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 06:46 PM
Big third down coming up...

adw
10-26-2003, 06:51 PM
DAMN! :( :mad:

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:54 PM
9 points down is not too bad, but we gotta do the right things from here out...

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:56 PM
We definitely need to go deep,...Andre needs a deep one!

ROXRAN
10-26-2003, 06:58 PM
The right things?... sigh...:(

RocketFan007
10-26-2003, 06:58 PM
We haven't thrown anything but dump offs to Davis and Miller the last two games. Why the hell are we not getting the ball to Johnson and Bradford down field.

Franchise2001
10-26-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by ROXRAN
We definitely need to go deep,...Andre needs a deep one!

What a big surprise! We try for 3 yards on each play.. what a joke!

Franchise2001
10-26-2003, 07:10 PM
Great clock management guys! On our way to a top draft pick again!

Nick
10-26-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by RocketFan007
We haven't thrown anything but dump offs to Davis and Miller the last two games. Why the hell are we not getting the ball to Johnson and Bradford down field.

My guess is we're taking what the defense gives us.

We're not forcing the issue... but remember, Carr is STILL not used to being comfortable in the pocket (which is what gives someone the ability to go downfield).

In fact, I think the low sack stat this year can be more attributed to the improvement in the dump-off passes, and not due to an improvement in the offensive line.

The O-line is still not a great pass-blocking bunch. (improving on the run, though).

adw
10-26-2003, 07:12 PM
:(

Nick
10-26-2003, 07:13 PM
Haha... at least we covered the 13 point spread.

BIG MONEY!

rocketfan83
10-26-2003, 07:14 PM
I do not understand the playcalling nor do I understand why they wouldnt go for it on 4th and 4. You need two scores. If you need two scores, you need to be agressive. If its picked off so be it, it beats getting the ball back with little time to do anything with it.


I really question Capers playcalling, I did it last season and I got blasted now it seems like some guys are starting to see the light.

DavidS
10-26-2003, 07:14 PM
Well, at least T. Banks got some time on the field.

Let Carr heal up for next game.

hoopgod13
10-26-2003, 07:24 PM
Marcus Coleman < Matt Stevens

rockets-#1
10-26-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by rocketfan83
I do not understand the playcalling nor do I understand why they wouldnt go for it on 4th and 4. You need two scores. If you need two scores, you need to be agressive. If its picked off so be it, it beats getting the ball back with little time to do anything with it.


I totally agree. The decision to not go for it on 4th and four is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen from a coach.

Uprising
10-26-2003, 09:16 PM
why does the offensive cordinator wait till the came is nearly over before he pulls out his cajones and has the QB throw a perfect pass for 20-30yd gain instead of a 2yd toss?!

Enough of the danm 3yd shot passes. We need to open up our passing game.

Hell, our opening play of the game was a PA pass for over 20yds. Everytime we went for the deep pass we were succeful, so why play to not lose, and go for the win already?!

Rip Van Rocket
10-26-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by rockets-#1
The decision to not go for it on 4th and four is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen from a coach.
I agree that we should have gone for it, but that decision could not possibly be in the top 1000 stupidest things seen from a coach. Coaches do stupid things all the time.

I mean come on, do you remember Woody Hays. How about coaches getting drunk in public and throwing away million dollar jobs. And if you are talking about bad play calling, how about an Oiler team throwing a backward pass from their own two yard line during a playoff game. Oh yes, there have been many stupid things come from football coaches, don't forget John Jenkins.

IROC it
10-27-2003, 02:47 AM
Well... these guys played hard today, but it does look as if the coaching staff is still playing not to lose rather than getting the guts to win.

Capers said last week they need to leard how to put teams away... well, Dom, that gets taught from the top down... in the play calling department. Otherwise good game for a...

2ND YEAR EXPANSION TEAM.

Rant over... reality realized. Give 'em a break. ;)

IROC it
10-27-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by adw
DD is the man,COME ONE TEXANS FIGHT !

BTW - I had him in my fantasy league as my RB today (Williams tomorrow night in Tempe on MNF as other RB)...

Sweet.:D

MadMax
10-27-2003, 08:55 AM
a great effort yesterday by the Texans. i think many of you expect way too much from a second year team...they put a scare in a legit super bowl contender on their home turf. that's more than I ever expected from this team in their first couple of seasons. they've already way surpassed my expectations for them.

ima_drummer2k
10-27-2003, 10:54 AM
MadMax, I don't think anyone is upset with the outcome of the game itself or the season so far. It's more the gameplan.


Why do we run on 3rd and 20 instead of a 10 yard out to get us a shot at a field goal? Why don't we take a shot or two before the end of the half? (IIRC, we had 2 timeouts and the 2 minute warning) Why do we punt in the 4th quarter when we need 2 scores? Why don't we run the 2 minute offense late in the 4th quarter when we need two scores? Why is the longest pass play of the day a 22 yarder to Billy Miller on the first play of the game?

I know we're an expansion team and I think in the big picture, we're ahead of schedule, but we've got 3 speedy recievers and we finally have a running game. Why don't we throw it downfield every once in a while? Too often, we let the opposing defense off the hook. We take the pressure off of them because we don't want to make a mistake. MAKE THE MISTAKES!! What have we got to lose? A playoff spot?

MadMax
10-27-2003, 10:58 AM
ima -- great points....

i will note that the questions about throwing it downfield presuppose that guys were open downfield...you ultimately take what the defense gives you...and if they're giving you Davis on consistent 6 yard dump passes, you take those all day.

i agree entirely on the punting, down by 2 scores thing..i was saying the same thing at the time.

but for all their criticism, this is the team that's gone for 6 twice on 4th down situations this year. and it is the team that called a great freaking fake FG yesterday...which was executed about as well as i've ever seen that little option fake ever run.

ima_drummer2k
10-27-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by MadMax
but for all their criticism, this is the team that's gone for 6 twice on 4th down situations this year. and it is the team that called a great freaking fake FG yesterday...which was executed about as well as i've ever seen that little option fake ever run.
That's why I can't figure Dom out. He goes for it on 4th and goal, he tries a superb fake field goal yesterday. Don't forget about the special teams trickery against the Steelers last year that won the game for us.

So if he's willing to take a chance in those situations, why not pass on 3rd and 20 etc. I just can't figure the guy out. Is he too conservative or not?

rrj_gamz
10-27-2003, 01:23 PM
any news on Carr...I know he's doing an MRI today...

Tony Banks is not the answer...The D is starting to be like the Steelers...always giving up the big play...

ima_drummer2k
10-27-2003, 01:44 PM
I heard on the radio it could be 2 to 3 weeks. But that was only speculation. IIRC, a high ankle sprain is much worse than a low one.

BTW, all you Matt Stevens haters need to redirect your ire to Marcus Coleman. He's been getting pimp-slapped for most of the season since the Miami game. Yesterday may have been his worst game as a Texan...except for the titan game.

PIMP-SLAPPED

Lil Francis
10-27-2003, 03:34 PM
The reason the secondary looks so terrible is because we have no type of pass rush. If you give a QB like Manning that much time he will always have someone open because its very hard to cover a guy like Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison that long.

MadMax
10-27-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Lil Francis
The reason the secondary looks so terrible is because we have no type of pass rush. If you give a QB like Manning that much time he will always have someone open because its very hard to cover a guy like Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison that long.

i think that's exactly right...there is absolutely no pressure on the QB at all from week to week.

ima_drummer2k
10-27-2003, 04:36 PM
That's why we should draft ALL defense next year. Period. We need help on the line, we need a pass rushing stud linebacker and we need mucho DB's.

I hate to admit it, but we miss Jeff Posey.

Austin70
10-27-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
That's why we should draft ALL defense next year. Period. We need help on the line, we need a pass rushing stud linebacker and we need mucho DB's.

I hate to admit it, but we miss Jeff Posey. 3
Damn, if the Astros had a Posey, they would probaly let him go too.

MadMax
10-27-2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Austin70
3
Damn, if the Astros had a Posey, they would probaly let him go too.

do i need to go back to the "pocketful of poseys" card again?