View Full Version : Texans select Hollings in supplemental draft
bobrek
07-10-2003, 03:44 PM
The Texans used next year's 2nd round pick to select Tony Hollings from Georgia Tech.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6443862
MadMax
07-10-2003, 04:58 PM
i was kinda hoping they'd wait until the 3rd round...but they know better than i do.
countingcrow
07-10-2003, 05:17 PM
I think this is going to be an awesome pickup...
ima_drummer2k
07-10-2003, 05:22 PM
I still don't understand how the supplemental draft works. :confused:
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
I still don't understand how the supplemental draft works. :confused:
Supplemental draft is usually for players who are declared academically inelligible.
They don't do the draft just like the regular draft. In fact, look below and you'll see how they actually do it.
If a team chooses a player in a round, that team loses their draft choice next year in the round they selected the player.
Houston loses their 2nd round pick next year (via the Raiders).
It's the same as if the Texans took Hollings in 2004 with that pick except he's on the team this season.
Originally posted by RIET
They do the draft just like the regular draft except with only a handful of players.
ehhh... not exactly.
this is from one of our draft writers, warren:
The NFL determines the selection order for all seven rounds of a supplemental draft with three weighted lotteries. The first lottery, which establishes the order for the top of each round, includes the seven teams that finished the 2002 season with less than seven wins each. The Bengals' name will be in the hat 32 times since they had the worst record, followed by 31 for the Lions, 30 for the Texans, on down to 26 for the Jaguars. The Texans have about a 15% chance of winning the top spot in each round and in no case will pick worse than seventh. Spots eight through 20 will then be filled with a similar lottery among the remaining non-playoff teams. The rest of the order will be determined by a third lottery among the teams that made the playoffs.
The supplemental draft is essentially a sealed-bid auction conducted by e-mail. Each team that wishes to select any of the eligible players sends the NFL office the pick that it would like to use on each player. The team that submits the highest pick on a particular player drafts the rights to that player and loses its pick in the corresponding round of the 2004 draft. A pick that has already been traded belongs to the team that received it, so the Texans will have the option of "bidding" the Raiders' second rounder (which will be somewhere in the last dozen picks) and the Colts' fourth rounder (in the middle of the round).
reallyBaked
07-10-2003, 06:47 PM
guys on 610 said this morning that this guy was someone the Texans would take a shot at...
Lil Francis
07-10-2003, 07:48 PM
It looks like Wells and Allen are the odd men out. Mack is the starter and with all the hype Hollins is getting he may move up to #2 on the depth chart leaving Dominique Davis for KR/PR and 3rd down situations.
Originally posted by Lil Francis
It looks like Wells and Allen are the odd men out. Mack is the starter and with all the hype Hollins is getting he may move up to #2 on the depth chart leaving Dominique Davis for KR/PR and 3rd down situations.
let's not get ahead of ourselves here... i love the pick, but we don't even know if he's healthy at this point. so to vault the kid to second on the depth chart is a little premature.
remember - he has all of four games experience at running back under his belt; this isn't a 4-year starter. so it's doubtful he'll see the field until he proves he can read and pick-up the blitz. and again, that's assuming he's healthy (boselli's situation makes me nervous when it comes to the texans' ability to spot and treat an injury.)
i suspect he'll see limited action over the season's first half. so wells and allen are still very much in the mix. (i doubt davis will see much action, either, except on special teams.) in fact, who it hurts the most is mack, who signed a one-year deal. if hollings proves healthy, et al, mack's carries over the second half will likely decrease, hurting his value next spring.
Lil Francis
07-10-2003, 09:11 PM
Yeah I see what you saying but what if Hollins is ready by preseason and out plays Wells and Allen? He reminds me of a raw Curtis Martin and I hope he gets some P.T.
Originally posted by Lil Francis
Yeah I see what you saying but what if Hollins is ready by preseason and out plays Wells and Allen? He reminds me of a raw Curtis Martin and I hope he gets some P.T.
it's all "if" at this point. if he outplays, if he's not healthy, etc.
yeah, the idea is that they will eventually be expendable, and yeah, it'd be great if that happened this year, but that's way premature; let's wait until we see what this kid can do.
Smoke
07-10-2003, 09:34 PM
We didn't use our own 2nd round pick. It was the one from the Raiders. Good move!
ima_drummer2k
07-10-2003, 11:23 PM
Thanks for the info Ric and RIET. I understand we got a good offensive lineman (M. Brown) via the sup draft. From what I hear, he may even be a starter this year.
One more question. Has the sup draft always been around? I don't remember hearing anything about it when the Oilers were here.
Originally posted by ima_drummer2k
Thanks for the info Ric and RIET. I understand we got a good offensive lineman (M. Brown) via the sup draft. From what I hear, he may even be a starter this year.
One more question. Has the sup draft always been around? I don't remember hearing anything about it when the Oilers were here.
Brian Bosworth was taken in the supplemental draft
Originally posted by RIET
Brian Bosworth was taken in the supplemental draft
i don't think he was... but he might've. bernie kosar is probably the greatest supplemental draft pick, and, iirc, he petioned it to avoid being in the regular draft because there was a good chance the oilers could nab him.
desihooper
07-12-2003, 11:39 AM
Someone mentioned Chris Carter was a supplemental draft pick. He's a HOFer for sure. Dunno if he was really drafted in the sup-draft though.
Originally posted by Ric
i don't think he was... but he might've. bernie kosar is probably the greatest supplemental draft pick, and, iirc, he petioned it to avoid being in the regular draft because there was a good chance the oilers could nab him.
The Seahawk: Taken in the 1987 supplemental draft by Seattle, Bosworth signed the richest contract in Seahawk history signing for 10 years for $11 million. He was moved to the weak side, even though Boz had spent his entire career on the strong side to make all the defensive calls. He had his moments, but a shoulder injury forced him to retire after three years.
This is an ESPN list of some famous Supplemental Picks:
There were some good players in the 80's but a long drought since then.
Best Of The Supplementals
In the 26 previous supplemental drafts, only 32 prospects have been selected, and not many have been players of consequence. A few notable players, though, entered the league through the supplemental draft. Here are some:
Player Year Team
QB Dave Brown 1992 Giants
WR Rob Moore 1990 Jets
RB Bobby Humphrey 1989 Broncos
QB Steve Walsh 1989 Cowboys
LB Brian Bosworth 1987 Seahawks
WR Cris Carter 1987 Eagles
QB Bernie Kosar 1985 Browns
QB Dave Wilson 1981 Saints
4chuckie
07-12-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by desihooper
Someone mentioned Chris Carter was a supplemental draft pick. He's a HOFer for sure. Dunno if he was really drafted in the sup-draft though.
He was ruled ineligeble at Ohio State much to the dis-may of Earl Bruce. Rumors in Columbus said this was teh administratiosn way of making sure Earl could not get past the old 8-3 reputation which led to his dismissal.
So yeah Chris did vo via the supplemental daft.
vBulletin® v3.0.17, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.