Question: Why the dislike for the Spurs?

[How Sweet It Is]

Personally, I see nothing wrong with them.

They are in Texas.

They have the MVP who emphasizes fundamentals. Fundamentals are something the Rockets desperately need.

They have some players whom I would like to see playing for the Rockets, namely guys like Ginobili and Parker.

The people of central Texas are mostly good people, I have been there.

San Antonio is not a **** town, contrary to what some of you people think.

So, I would like a straightforward answer: Why the disdain for the Spurs, because I am pulling for them to win the title.

[Lil Pun]

Originally posted by How Sweet It Is
Personally, I see nothing wrong with them.

They are in Texas.

They have the MVP who emphasizes fundamentals. Fundamentals are something the Rockets desperately need.

They have some players whom I would like to see playing for the Rockets, namely guys like Ginobili and Parker.

The people of central Texas are mostly good people, I have been there.

San Antonio is not a **** town, contrary to what some of you people think.

So, I would like a straightforward answer: Why the disdain for the Spurs, because I am pulling for them to win the title.

We're Rocket fans...I guess.

[reallyBaked]

cuz I wish nothing but pain and misery for DUSTY!

[lancet]

Cuz Spurs will be the biggest road block for the Rockets in the upcoming decade! Cuz Duncan will be Yao's main rivalry for dominant big man for the decade. So why not start the hating early? :D

[How Sweet It Is]

Originally posted by lancet
Cuz Spurs will be the biggest road block for the Rockets in the upcoming decade! Cuz Duncan will be Yao's main rivalry for dominant big man for the decade. So why not start the hating early? :D What could be better than having a good ol' Texas rivalry renewed with respect for one another?

The team we should all hate is the lackers.

[verse]

i've gotta go, and assuming this thread is still going tomorrow, i'll expand on this answer, but for now i'll give you a quick answer:


live in san antonio and live in houston. after doing such, you will see that the fans are just fundamentally different. both are homers, but houston fans actually have an appreciation for other teams and a humility about their attributes. san antonio fans tend to have little to no appreciation for any other team or player and - despite bragging about their "classy" players - are the least classy bunch of arrogant assholes you ever want to meet.

if it were not for the fans - well, and david robinson as a player - i could probably like the spurs. but after living in san antonio and being around the fans, it's just inconceivable. do you know that in ~10 years of living in san antonio, i have NEVER heard a san antonio fan say (after a loss) that "the (other team) was just better than us" or "(player x) just abused us tonight"? it's always the refs fault or the spurs just gave it away or some crap that avoids the fact that nba teams are legitimately capable of beating each other without help from referees or poor play from your players. it's disgusting.

i could go on...and i probably will tomorrow. for now...**** the *spurs.

[SamFisher]

I see the following things wrong with them, for starters:

They are in Texas.

They have the MVP who emphasizes fundamentals. Fundamentals are something the Rockets desperately need.

They have some players whom I would like to see playing for the Rockets, namely guys like Ginobili and Parker.

The people of central Texas are mostly good people, I have been there.

San Antonio is a **** town

[How Sweet It Is]

Originally posted by SamFisher
I see the following things wrong with them, for starters:

San Antonio is a **** town

Are you kidding? I challenge you to find a bigger piece of crap than the place we call downtown Houston. And that is not an opinion, that is a FACT.

[ZRB]

Greg ****ovich is an asshole, Duncan is a pure whiner, and Robinson is a pussy supremo.

[How Sweet It Is]

If you are talking about last night's incident, he was just trying to 1. defend his players and 2. get his team a little more fire.

It's the lackers who are the true assholes/whiners.

[How Sweet It Is]

And about "not giving the other team enough credit", I think that is bogus also. I started going on some of their boards (WOAI's board primarily) before the Phoenix series (I follow the suns very closely as well as the rockets), and there was concern in the air there because they knew the suns were a good team.

So about "not giving teams enough credit", I don't buy it.

[Severe Rockets Fan]

Originally posted by How Sweet It Is
Are you kidding? I challenge you to find a bigger piece of crap than the place we call downtown Houston. And that is not an opinion, that is a FACT. Fact? Where are you getting these 'facts' from, the holy San Antonio archives? SA has the riverwalk, but don't tell me they don't have crappy parts of town...they're just like any other city, its not camelot, jerky.

[How Sweet It Is]

Originally posted by Severe Rockets Fan
Fact? Where are you getting these 'facts' from, the holy San Antonio archives? SA has the riverwalk, but don't tell me they don't have crappy parts of town...they're just like any other city, its not camelot, jerky.

Take a ride into downtown Houston sometime bud. There's construction, there's bumpy roadways, it's just a crappy part of town.:mad:

I wish Lee Brown would have the incentive to fix these things.:confused:

[Der Rabbi]

I've lived in SA & HOuston & SA has far more style. Houston is little more than a big sweaty parking lot. A least SA hasn't torn down everything older than 40 years & built a strip mall over it. .... That said Spurs fans are a little less critical of the game & the business of the game (only Lakers & Suns fans have I ever noticed to be worse at this) I remember seeing a game in SA & the home crowd booing JR Reid & Vinnie Del Negro when they were playing for the Bucks. This was 2000 a year after their championship & the guy in front of us started heckling them saying they were "wanna be champions". It was so weird. Those guys were there for years, played hard & were traded by the Spurs. They didn't demand big contracts or force a trade. Not that either one of them were great players, but the got the most of their abilities. Ok maybe JR never got as good as he should have. ..... Robinson is the only player on the Spurs I actively dislike. 1st off it's a joke that he is considered one of the 50st greatest players. I have more post moves than that guy. Regardless of the limpness of his game, it's his 700 Club bible thumping ass that I despise.

[Severe Rockets Fan]

Originally posted by How Sweet It Is
Take a ride into downtown Houston sometime bud. There's construction, there's bumpy roadways, it's just a crappy part of town.:mad:

I wish Lee Brown would have the incentive to fix these things.:confused:
We have the theater district, baseball stadium, basketball arena, tons of places to eat and stay, a couple of small parks, a new monorail coming up next year, all centalized...but all of it stinks because we are trying to fix the roads?

[ktheintz]

I've not much cared for the Spurs ever since the NBA and the sports press promoted David Robinson as the antidote to some non-existent disease thought to afflict the game. The adulation heaped on Robinson, over and above the quality of his game, was transparently a means of attacking players with lifestyles less admired by petty-bourgeois sportswriters.

Every time I hear what a swell guy David Robinson is, I have to listen to Allen Iverson's rap CD (the uncensored version) to make the nausea go away.

Liked 'em OK in the Gervin era, though.

[How Sweet It Is]

Originally posted by Severe Rockets Fan
We have the theater district, baseball stadium, basketball arena, tons of places to eat and stay, a couple of small parks, a new monorail coming up next year, all centalized...but all of it stinks because we are trying to fix the roads?

Think about it, if all that construction is still up downtown next year while the Super Bowl is going on, Houston may never see a Super Bowl again. Believe me, I think it IS that big of a factor. Houston has the worst construction in the United States of America, which doesn't bode well considering we have the hordes of people coming from everywhere for the Super Bowl.

[finalsbound]

Houston is a gorgeous city, construction or not. Damn, the things Texans take for granted...

http://www.seyfarth.com/offices/img/houston.jpg

http://www.norway.org/images2/embassy/houston/houston-building.jpg

http://www.kingwoodlife.com/images/houston.jpg

http://www.vsbw.com/~terry/houston.jpg

http://www.advancement.uh.edu/development/images/houston.jpg

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~hldrysel/pictures/texas/places/houston.jpg

And don't even start on the women.

San Antonio:
http://www.micheline.ca/photo-piscine-san-antonio.jpg
Houston: http://www.kbxx.com/beyonce.jpg

I rest my case. :p

[SamFisher]

heh heh, one jokey comment and I come back and see an I-10 interurban shouting match. Keep firing boys.:D

[Puedlfor]

Better question : Why should you even tolerate anyone but the Rockets?

I have nothing personal against most teams - but when it comes down to it, all those other teams have a primary goal that is the direct opposite of the Rockets goal, and anything those teams do to further that goal harms the Rockets in some way. Everything good for them, is bad for the Rockets. Every time they are happy, some of it has come or will later come at the expense of the Rocket's happiness.

So screw em all, I say.

Obviously, there are some teams I dislike more than others. But not much.

[leebigez]

Its not as bad as it seems, but since the city of sa only have 1 pro team, they see no wrong. When Hakeem was kicking the $hit out of Big Dave, it really kind of put a damper on the rivalry. Most people think SA tanked the season to get Duncan, but most think we did the same last yr. Its just like any other rivalry thats going to last a while. In the nba, Dallas,Sa,and Houston will be like arch rivals, so let the hate begin. The problem is, the Rockets have to get to their level before we can talk trash. Its coming, and not soon enough.

[rocketfan83]

Bottom line since the Rockets have been average to terrible for the past 5-6 years or so, fans seem to live in the past all you have to do is glance at some of the topics in the GARM fourm to see it. Rockets have 2 Titles, San Antonio 1. If San Antonio takes it this year they will even up the Rockets. That would not only say that San Antonio is better now but now San Antonio has 2 titles as well. Just look at as loosing your edge to somebody that you always thought you were better than. As for Me I dont really care who wins this series as long as there is an exciting game 7. Im slightly pulling for the Nets but if the Spurs win I wouldnt get that vomit feeling as opposed to seeing Dallas win it

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by rocketfan83
Bottom line since the Rockets have been average to terrible for the past 5-6 years or so, fans seem to live in the past all you have to do is glance at some of the topics in the GARM fourm to see it. Rockets have 2 Titles, San Antonio 1. If San Antonio takes it this year they will even up the Rockets. That would not only say that San Antonio is better now but now San Antonio has 2 titles as well. Just look at as loosing your edge to somebody that you always thought you were better than. As for Me I dont really care who wins this series as long as there is an exciting game 7. Im slightly pulling for the Nets but if the Spurs win I wouldnt get that vomit feeling as opposed to seeing L.A win it

Fixed.

I hear it rains all the time in Houston. Is this true?

I live in Baltimore and I can say that San Antonio or Houston would be better than my neck of the woods.

[tigereye]

Because they're BORING. BBBBBBOOOOOOORRRRRIIIINNNNGGG!

And this is coming from a New Yorker, not a Texan. A side from the Malik Rose Facial on Mt. Retard and the occcasional RJ and K-MART dunk, the Finals have been SO BORING I just cant stand it. Thanks San Antonio, you just had to go **** up the playoffs anf Finals didnt you. Thanks alot, I mean REALLY mean it. San Antonio is a boring team. Duncan is beginning to look so "Mermaid-ish" these days like SA's hero "The Mermaid" David Robinson. There is simply no "flash" to this team. The Lakers, Kings, Rockets, Mavs are all exciting teams to watch. But when the Spurs are on, I'd rather watch a 24 hour marathon of Martha Stewart Living. :rolleyes:

[fasthand2000]

They are a very boring team.
I was cheering Spurs to beat Laker, now I am cheering Nets to beat them.

[Isabel]

If the Rockets are not in the picture, I'd rather cheer for S.A. because at least they represent Texas... of course, I live in Spurs territory anyway...

[Easy]

I am with HSII on this one.

Down with the Lakers!

[bamaslammer]

Originally posted by How Sweet It Is
Personally, I see nothing wrong with them.

They are in Texas.

They have the MVP who emphasizes fundamentals. Fundamentals are something the Rockets desperately need.

They have some players whom I would like to see playing for the Rockets, namely guys like Ginobili and Parker.

The people of central Texas are mostly good people, I have been there.

San Antonio is not a **** town, contrary to what some of you people think.

So, I would like a straightforward answer: Why the disdain for the Spurs, because I am pulling for them to win the title. I'll put it to you this way......
1. The Rockets to me are more aesthically pleasing to watch than the Boring Fundamental, David "The Softest 7-Footer Ever" Robinson and the gang of non-shooting, unable to hit free throws rabble that somehow Pop has molded into a championship team. Personally, I'd rather watch the Rockets than that bunch of boring clods.....
2. San Antonio is a much prettier town. Houston is just a bunch of strip malls and road construction while San Antone has the Riverwalk and a pretty downtown.

[verse]

Originally posted by Isabel
If the Rockets are not in the picture, I'd rather cheer for S.A. because at least they represent Texas... of course, I live in Spurs territory anyway...

hey you should come to Florio's and cheer for the nets!! they're all from the upper east coast there and it's a NJ Nets haven.

or do like i sometimes do and go to a spurs bar and cheer for the nets. nothing like going into the lion's den and smacking him around! :D

[rainmaker]

imo:

1. they are good. sometimes

2. they are boring, and lack any sort of charisma whatsoever.

3. they have some very hateable players:

danny ferry. 'nuff said.
stephen jackson, a whiner who pouts when he gets taken out of the game. sits on the end of the bench. i hate cry babies.
bruce bowen. don't like him, don't know why, but I just don't.
malik rose - see bruce bowen.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by rainmaker
imo:

1. they are good. sometimes

2. they are boring, and lack any sort of charisma whatsoever.

3. they have some very hateable players:

danny ferry. 'nuff said.
stephen jackson, a whiner who pouts when he gets taken out of the game. sits on the end of the bench. i hate cry babies.
bruce bowen. don't like him, don't know why, but I just don't.
malik rose - see bruce bowen.

1. should be:
1. they are good. sometimes you can't help but be a bit of a player-hater. plus they knocked the mavs out.

[MrSpur]

live in san antonio and live in houston. after doing such, you will see that the fans are just fundamentally different. both are homers, but houston fans actually have an appreciation for other teams and a humility about their attributes. san antonio fans tend to have little to no appreciation for any other team or player and - despite bragging about their "classy" players - are the least classy bunch of arrogant assholes you ever want to meet.


Right. Most fans are the same no matter the franchise they support. Yes, that includes your saintly Rockets fans. Until you appreciate that you will remain a blind and bitter individual.

As for the best place to live in TX, I'd have to go with Central Texas.

[JBIIRockets]

I don't really hates the Spurs team, But I root against them because I want the Rockets to have the most NBA titles in the state, but the Spurs are about to tie the Rockets.

Another reason it's easy to root against the Spurs is that, With all due respect to MrSpur and Gunawanspurs (sp?), some Spurs fans are idiots.

[Cato=Bum]

1 1/2 <2

-I'll agree that any asterisk attatched to a title is lame, but the Spurs did win the title to a HALF SEASON. They are at 1 1/2. But no doubt they will win 2-3 more if they add a kidd or oneal.

[Apollo Creed]

I hardly care about a team's fans because I don't root for a team's fans in a game. There's at least two players on every team in the NBA that I seriously dislike, and there's only one on the Spurs, and that's Ferry. But he's a nobody anyway so it's hardly a big deal. I can't believe anyone would seriously hate a player because they're 'soft' and I certainly can't believe anyone is trying to drop that label on Duncan, league MVP and about to lead his team to a second title in 5 years.

Rockets are at the top of the list. Then, I stick behind my Texas teams. And if they're out, I stick behind the Western Conference teams. I just can't stand the Eastern Conference at all. They suck. It would make me mad to see the Leastern Conference win it all because then people would think they're actually good for something.

[Pimphand24]

I don't post much but this question is something that I've asked myself and realized the answer.
I'm a native Houstonian but I've lived in San Antonio for a few years and I can't stand these Spurs.

1) They're boring. I'm a huge NBA fan and I'll watch just about any team when its on TNT or ESPN (even Eastern teams) but when it come to the Spurs I dont even watch them when its the only thing on. They play a really boring game. Nice guys, but boring.

2) They have no heart. This is probably what bothers me the most about them. They have so much talent, so much potential but they don't want the championship as much as the Nets do or many other teams I've seen. They're SO much better than other teams but they play one good game, then they let the other team stomp all over them or let the Nets get by them, then they decide to play hard the next game, then don't play hard the other.... this is the PLAYOFFS! I've never seen team with such little passion. Duncan the quiet leader? He's not a leader at all! This team chokes in the fourth quarter all the time. What bothers me about this is that I want the team to WANT the championship real bad and earn it with hard work and these guys seem to hardly want it. You have to light a fire under their butts in order to get them to work hard. Only when they get beaten do they decide to play and thats not a heart of the champion.

I don't think the city of San Antonio or the people have anything to do with me not liking the Spurs cause the city is nice and the people are even better, but this team really gets on my nerves for their lack of heart .:mad:

[MrSpur]

It's kind of hard to win a NBA championship "without heart." The Spurs closed out the defending champs on their homecourt and made them cry. That was in a game in which it was all but taken for granted that LA would win and send back to SA for a Game 7. They found a way to win in Game 6 in Dallas.

The main problem for the Spurs in this playoffs has been inconsistency due to the youth and inexperience of a number of key players. Stephen Jackson is a guy who can show up with a big performance in a must win like Game 6 of the WCF or he can simply get nothing going. Between Parker and Claxton that's about 4 years max of NBA experience running a team. Claxton also missed a large amount of this season due to a shoulder injury so it's not like he knows this team that well. Ginobili is the most polished of the younger players but he's still learning this league and his own team.