Worst Rockets Line-up of all time [Archive]

steddinotayto

05-28-2003, 01:06 AM

C-Thomas 'two sammiches' Hamilton
PF-Carlos Rogers
SF-Buck Johnson
SG-Rodrick Rhodes
PG-i'll have to give this one to Moochie...he wouldn't have been here but that contract is making him stick out.

AND this is just my memory of some of the bad players we had...i know there's A LOT more.

Fatty FatBastard

05-28-2003, 01:13 AM

C-Charles Jones
PF-Adrian Caldwelll
SF-Tim Breaux
SG-Elmer Bennett (sorry Bellaire alum's)
PG-Melvin Booker

steddinotayto

05-28-2003, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Fatty FatBastard
C-Charles Jones
PF-Adrian Caldwelll
SF-Tim Breaux
SG-Elmer Bennett (sorry Bellaire alum's)
PG-Melvin Booker

hahahha Booker....i think Jones was more serviceable during garbage time than Hamilton was at any time.....sorta...hahah

Drewdog

05-28-2003, 01:16 AM

C - Zan Tabak
PF - Dave Feitl
SF- Dan Langhi
SG - Tim Breaux
PG - Winston Garland

tigereye

05-28-2003, 02:06 AM

Originally posted by steddinotayto
C-Thomas 'two sammiches' Hamilton
PF-Carlos Rogers
SF-Buck Johnson
SG-Rodrick Rhodes
PG-i'll have to give this one to Moochie...he wouldn't have been here but that contract is making him stick out.

AND this is just my memory of some of the bad players we had...i know there's A LOT more.

I'll take Moocie out of this because he had one unforgetable game two years back compared to be rest of these jokers who havent done a damn thing. I cant remember who we played that night. The game I speak of is one where the Rox went to overtime and Moochie couldnt actually miss a shot. He did everything including key steals and rebounds and Bill and Calvin and the crowd went absolute nuts. They chanted his name and he recieved a standing O'. That was simply unforgetable........until he started playing like a CBA 3rd stringer again. But for that game he is off my list.

And Rodrick Rhodes was actually pretty good. I dont think he belongs there either. As long as people still remember Tim Breaux, I dont think Rhodes will be on that list.

And since I am going back in time to the good ole' days, what ever happened to Turbo's flying mascot buddies like Eclipse? They were cool back in tha' day.

steddinotayto

05-28-2003, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by tigereye
And since I am going back in time to the good ole' days, what ever happened to Turbo's flying mascot buddies like Eclipse? They were cool back in tha' day.

they were the sh!t back then. they went to my middle school hahahahaha. what a hoot.

rezdawg

05-28-2003, 02:35 AM

Dave Jameson

candlegreen

05-28-2003, 02:37 AM

C- Zan Tabak (he got a ring for what?) at least charles jones had his moment in the sun against david robinson... Thomas Hamilton gave us some laughs when put on oliver miller... and he didn't cost us anything... somehow petruska's name came up on my list...

PF- My memory's fading... there was this guy that we signed.. this white guy for a 10 day contract while half our team was injured. That guy was huffing and puffing up and down the court.. if only I could remember. But that was kinda embarassing.. every basket he scored Calvin was all excited about it. Other than that... what has Chris Jent done for us? =P

SF- If it's about what we paid for and what we got.. Pippen... but when it came to talent level and what he produced as a Rocket...

SG- Rodrick Rhodes... pretty high first rounder that didn't do much but shoot from that same spot about 18 feet away. I'm serious.. if the defender's standing on that spot he wouldn't know what to do!! Glad we traded him to get Sam Mack back

PG- Moochie had his year but that money made him stand out.. but can't put him here really... Bryce Drew was expected so much out of.. so much we passed on Rashard Lewis. then again there's Brent Price's "big" contract. Randy Livingston was all hyped up too... but I guess you can blame it on his knee injuries... or the shape of his head.

jlaw718

05-28-2003, 03:29 AM

Granville Waiters
Richard Anderson
Chuck Nevitt
Dirk Minniefield
Conner Henry

StupidMoniker

05-28-2003, 04:50 AM

Bill Curley has to be on this team.

Houston-in-LA

05-28-2003, 07:18 AM

C-Zan Tabak
PF- Pete Chilcutt
SF-Scottie Pippen
SG-Tim Breaux
PG-Randy Livingston

crash5179

05-28-2003, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by rockets-#1
Moochie ain't that bad.

yes he is.

He also gets my vote for all time dumbest Rocket if that poll ever comes out.

crash5179

05-28-2003, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by SamFisher
C Caldwell Jones
F James Bailey
F Robert Reid
G Terry Teagle
G Allen Leavell

This one was actually real though....:(

You do realize that Robert Reid was a very big contributor and starter on two different Rockets teams that went to the finals in the 80's don't you. Allen Leavell was not too shabby either.

leroy

05-28-2003, 09:09 AM

Matt Maloney

xiki

05-28-2003, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by We're Back
Arguable. Maybe a new coach will help Moochie get his mojo back and be serviceable. I would than replace him with Bryce Drew. Doubtful though.

Drew was becoming quite the positive at the time he blew out the knee. I still believe had he stayed healthy that Rock team wouldacoulda best Da Bulls (in '97). I still believe.

smoothie

05-28-2003, 09:29 AM

Searge Zwikker @ center!

We're Back

05-28-2003, 09:48 AM

xiki,
So Bryce Drew was what kept us from winning it all in '97? Now that is hilarious. Never even dreamed that I'd hear that. Did you ever notice that the guy couldn't dribble the ball up court without looking like a deer caught in headlights?

A-Train

05-28-2003, 09:50 AM

I'm with Sam Fisher...Let's try worst lineup to actually start a game.

Kenny Thomas
Terrence Morris
Oscar Torres
Moochie Norris
Jason Collier

Yes, that lineup actually STARTED on April 14, 2002 against the Grizzlies.

Or maybe this one from two nights later when we got anally molested by Denver:

Oscar Torres
Moochie Norris
Dan Langhi
Kenny Thomas
Kelvin Cato

crash5179

05-28-2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by xiki
Drew was becoming quite the positive at the time he blew out the knee. I still believe had he stayed healthy that Rock team wouldacoulda best Da Bulls (in '97). I still believe.

Bryce Drew was in College in 97. His first year with the Rockets was the strike shortened year in 98. And when did he ever blow out his knee? I think you have him confused with someone else.

luckystrikes

05-28-2003, 09:54 AM

Randy Livingston

leroy

05-28-2003, 10:01 AM

Brent Price

SamFisher

05-28-2003, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by crash5179
You do realize that Robert Reid was a very big contributor and starter on two different Rockets teams that went to the finals in the 80's don't you. Allen Leavell was not too shabby either.

You do realize that this team went an incredible 14-68?

I went to two games that year and saw them get blown out by the Clippers and Bullets. I was young, but even then it was painful!

codell

05-28-2003, 10:20 AM

How about the worst lineup with players we drafted, but never played for us:

C- Zwikker
PF - Venson Hamilton
SF - Eric Meek
SG - Kyle Hill
PG - Andre LaFleur

xiki

05-28-2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by crash5179
Bryce Drew was in College in 97. His first year with the Rockets was the strike shortened year in 98. And when did he ever blow out his knee? I think you have him confused with someone else.

What was I thinking...of course I was thinking Brent price. They are both white, easily cofused with each other. One had game (for a while) and a brother who had great game. The other had a great college game (once?) and a father who coached a good game. See, easy mistake.

Yetti

05-28-2003, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by rockets-#1
Moochie ain't that bad.
But not in the NBA or its development league!!

Yetti

05-28-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by SamFisher
C Caldwell Jones
F James Bailey
F Robert Reid
G Terry Teagle
G Allen Leavell

This one was actually real though....:(

Robert Reid..... was a noted Rockets player.
Allen Leavel.... was a noted Rockets player.
Terry Teagle.... was a noted player on another team after he was traded, early in his Rockets career,

SamFisher

05-28-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Yetti
Robert Reid..... was a noted Rockets player.
Allen Leavel.... was a noted Rockets player.
Terry Teagle.... was a noted player on another team after he was traded, early in his Rockets career,

I'm aware of that, as I noted earlier, that was the worst regular starting lineup ever. As I said before: 14-68.

finalsbound

05-28-2003, 12:24 PM

Damn, Train. Those memories are depressing.

Yetti

05-28-2003, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by codell
How about the worst lineup with players we drafted, but never played for us:

C- Zwikker
PF - Venson Hamilton
SF - Eric Meek
SG - Kyle Hill
PG - Andre LaFleur
Codell if there was a PRIZE for the winner you would win it hands down!

Baqui99

05-28-2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by Yetti
Codell if there was a PRIZE for the winner you would win it hands down!

I'm also a big fan of Morlon Wiley. He was part of the Scottie Brooks deal, but never ended up playing here.

Rileydog

05-28-2003, 12:59 PM

Richard Petruska. I think he played a minute or two. Horrible. Just horrible.

silent j

05-28-2003, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by SamFisher
I'm aware of that, as I noted earlier, that was the worst regular starting lineup ever. As I said before: 14-68.
With Allen Leavell leading the team @ 14 points per game, we were lucky to win 14. I know there were "tank" rumors, but I really think that team wasn't capable of winning more than 14.
j

crash5179

05-28-2003, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by SamFisher
You do realize that this team went an incredible 14-68?

I went to two games that year and saw them get blown out by the Clippers and Bullets. I was young, but even then it was painful!

I don't care if they were 0 and 82 Robert Reid is in no way a spare. It is not even a point you can argue.

You know why Robert Reid took the number 33 when Ralph Sampson took his number 50? Because Bill Fitch thought that Reid did such an exellent job playing against Larry Bird in the 1980 Finals so he suggested that Reid take number 33.

You do know that Reid is the one the one that played point most of the year after Allen Levell broke his wrist and John Lucas got booted from the team don't you? As I recall we did pretty damn good that year.

You do know that our 14 - 68 record was partly do to the massive throwing of games that was done in order to land Ralph Sampson don't you.

Robert Reid was not a spare. He was an outstanding basketball player.

crash5179

05-28-2003, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by xiki
What was I thinking...of course I was thinking Brent price. They are both white, easily cofused with each other. One had game (for a while) and a brother who had great game. The other had a great college game (once?) and a father who coached a good game. See, easy mistake.

Gotcha. I remember Price blowing out his knee. To bad he never acheived the same level of greatness that his brother Mark acheived.

One Brent one Bryce both white easy mistake. ;)

SamFisher

05-28-2003, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by crash5179
I don't care if they were 0 and 82 Robert Reid is in no way a spare. It is not even a point you can argue.

You know why Robert Reid took the number 33 when Ralph Sampson took his number 50? Because Bill Fitch thought that Reid did such an exellent job playing against Larry Bird in the 1980 Finals so he suggested that Reid take number 33.

You do know that Reid is the one the one that played point most of the year after Allen Levell broke his wrist and John Lucas got booted from the team don't you? As I recall we did pretty damn good that year.

You do know that our 14 - 68 record was partly do to the massive throwing of games that was done in order to land Ralph Sampson don't you.

Robert Reid was not a spare. He was an outstanding basketball player.

My god, I can't believe you people are getting so upset about this! Go back and read my first post, or the 2 or 3 that followed!
Where do I say that Robert Reid was the worst or 2nd worst Forward in Rockets history? Where do I try to make that point?

All I was saying was that was the worst Rockets starting lineup THAT ACTUALLY PLAYED TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS!!!!!! IT was just an observation, based on statistics and personal recollection and nothing more.

Please read the posts and save us both the trouble next time.

pgabriel

05-28-2003, 02:21 PM

SamFisher,

I understand the point you are making, but you do realize that the 82-83 season in which they only won 14 games was the season they tanked to get Sampson. Another thing, look at the history section of the web site, it shows Elvin Hayes played on that team. But its a mistake, it doesn't list Robert Reid but I'm pretty sure that it should say Reid instead of Hayes, considering Hayes was retired.

SamFisher

05-28-2003, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by pgabriel
SamFisher,

I understand the point you are making, but you do realize that the 82-83 season in which they only won 14 games was the season they tanked to get Sampson. Another thing, look at the history section of the web site, it shows Elvin Hayes played on that team. But its a mistake, it doesn't list Robert Reid but I'm pretty sure that it should say Reid instead of Hayes, considering Hayes was retired.

Huhh, you're right, he's not listed on there. Maybe he was hurt that year? I don't know. As I said, I was young at the time and that ws 20 years ago. I didn't mean to blow this thing up into a huge argument about Robert Reid.

SLA

05-28-2003, 02:35 PM

Don't know really.....BUT JASON COLLIER AND MOOCHIE NORRIS should be somewhere on this worst rockets team.

pgabriel

05-28-2003, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by SamFisher
Huhh, you're right, he's not listed on there. Maybe he was hurt that year? I don't know. As I said, I was young at the time and that ws 20 years ago. I didn't mean to blow this thing up into a huge argument about Robert Reid.

No its a mistake, the stats are listed under Elvin Hayes. I'm pretty sure about that. I'm not disagreeing with your premise, that was a pretty bad starting lineup.

ragingFire

05-28-2003, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by pgabriel
SamFisher,

I understand the point you are making, but you do realize that the 82-83 season in which they only won 14 games was the season they tanked to get Sampson. Another thing, look at the history section of the web site, it shows Elvin Hayes played on that team. But its a mistake, it doesn't list Robert Reid but I'm pretty sure that it should say Reid instead of Hayes, considering Hayes was retired.

Big E left the Rox in 72 to play for the Bullets and came back to Houston from 81-84. He was at the end of his career. Played fairly well but not as great as he used to.

SamFisher

05-28-2003, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by pgabriel
No its a mistake, the stats are listed under Elvin Hayes. I'm pretty sure about that. I'm not disagreeing with your premise, that was a pretty bad starting lineup.

Yeah for some reason under Reid's regular stats it doesn't list anything for 82-83. I guess it was a mistake?

crash5179

05-28-2003, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by SamFisher
My god, I can't believe you people are getting so upset about this! Go back and read my first post, or the 2 or 3 that followed!
Where do I say that Robert Reid was the worst or 2nd worst Forward in Rockets history? Where do I try to make that point?

All I was saying was that was the worst Rockets starting lineup THAT ACTUALLY PLAYED TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS!!!!!! IT was just an observation, based on statistics and personal recollection and nothing more.

Please read the posts and save us both the trouble next time.

No ones upset. I'm just taking up for my boy Robert Reid who was a victim of circumstance.

Pipe

05-28-2003, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by crash5179

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You do know that our 14 - 68 record was partly do to the massive throwing of games that was done in order to land Ralph Sampson don't you.
This is getting a bit off topic, but I would like to address some Rockets history - the great "tank" of 82-83.

The team stank. As a season ticket holder that year, let me tell ya', stank is a nice description. When Allan Leavell is your best player, you suck. The team definitely threw the last game. I was there, right behind the Rox bench - if I had had sneaks on they probably would have put me on the floor. BUT, the idea that the team threw games right and left all season long is just wrong. I only really remember them throwing the last game, although it could have been the last several.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming ....

crash5179

05-28-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by SamFisher
Yeah for some reason under Reid's regular stats it doesn't list anything for 82-83. I guess it was a mistake?

I thought Robert Reid went into premature early retirement for a year because he wanted to spend time serving god or something. I believe the omission is correct. He then came back after Sampson was drafted.

crash5179

05-28-2003, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Pipe
As a season ticket holder that year...

You have my deepest sympathy for sitting through the 82-83 season. You are a true fan. ;)

Asian Sensation

05-28-2003, 03:08 PM

Carl Hererra.

JBIIRockets

05-28-2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Asian Sensation
Carl Hererra.

well, somebody does not know their history. Maybe you are unaware of how Amigo tore up the Knicks in the 94 Finals.

my all-time worst lineup

C Thomas Hamilton
PF Alvin Heggs
SF Terence Morris
SG Tracy Moore
PG Dirk Minnifield (just because of that rediculous dribbling against Seattle in Game 6 of the 87 west semis when McMillan stripped him.

silent j

05-28-2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by crash5179
I thought Robert Reid went into premature early retirement for a year because he wanted to spend time serving god or something. I believe the omission is correct. He then came back after Sampson was drafted.

I hate to say this because it was so long ago and my memory is spotty about that time (you know, first year of college) but I'm pretty sure there was speculation that Bobby Joe decided to serve God that year because the team wouldn't renegotiate his contract.
j