Berkman on the chicks.....

[gr8-1]

Hope this hasn't been posted. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/sports/bb/1821383

he said. "I don't want to shoot them or anything. I just want them to move to Oklahoma. ... :D

[finalsbound]

"Being from Texas, the greatest state in the union, I'm disappointed that a group that claims Texas as a home state would make such a derogatory statement about a fine man in the White House at a time when our country needs to be together and not divided," Berkman said."

Nice.

Berkman has never bought any Dixie Chicks music.

Nor have I. The lead singer scares the piss out of me.

"AndI never will," he said. "I don't want to shoot them or anything. I just want them to move to Oklahoma. ... I don't think anybody wants to fight a war. You have to be an idiot to want to fight a war, but sometimes it is necessary."

Word.

[ewfd]

So when are the people going to line up to start bashing Berkman and boycotting Astros games for him taking a stance on someone taking a stance? :rolleyes:

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by ewfd
So when are the people going to line up to start bashing Berkman and boycotting Astros games for him taking a stance on someone taking a stance? :rolleyes:

Exactly. Where are the people who said that celebrities' opinions don't matter???

[ewfd]

I'm going to burn my Astros t-shirt now.

I can't believe he's so arrogant as to think people care about his opinions!!!!!!11@ :mad: :mad: :mad:










:rolleyes:

I'm growing really tired of this whole double standard.

[Raven Lunatic]

Originally posted by ewfd
I'm going to burn my Astros t-shirt now.

I can't believe he's so arrogant as to think people care about his opinions!!!!!!11@ :mad: :mad: :mad:

:rolleyes:

I'm growing really tired of this whole double standard.

Good god, dude. He was asked questions. He answered. How can you blaim him for supplying his opinion when he was freaking asked for it?

And as to your earlier statement. The reason no one is jumping on Lance for taking a stance on someone taking a stance is because maybe, just maybe, we agree with Lance's stance. Berkman didn't say he thought the Dixie Chick in question shouldn't have been allowed to say what she said...he just thought it was a terrible thing to say. There is no double standard.

[Rocketman95]

I've heard people say they don't care what celebrities have to say. Not that they disagreed with them, just that they don't care. Of course, I don't hear anyone saying it now.

[ewfd]

Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
Good god, dude. He was asked questions. He answered. How can you blaim him for supplying his opinion when he was freaking asked for it?

And as to your earlier statement. The reason no one is jumping on Lance for taking a stance on someone taking a stance is because maybe, just maybe, we agree with Lance's stance. Berkman didn't say he thought the Dixie Chick in question shouldn't have been allowed to say what she said...he just thought it was a terrible thing to say. There is no double standard.

So you have to be asked for it not to be controversial?

I see, it all makes sense now.



And if you agree with Lance and his balls aren't getting jumped on for this, then you have proven my point for me about a double standard.

[Oski2005]

This is why I don't by my 'Stros gear with any names:p . Berkman is still the man though. I hope he learns a little tolerence, I mean even saying "I don't want to shoot them" is kind of funky. I would have gotten that impression by him not mentioning a firing squad at all.

I want to here what Ausmus thinks, he's the smartest guy on the team and the only one who really follows news and politics. This is according to an article on the Astros website, I didn't just pull it out of my ass.

[gr8-1]

Hey, Berkman's a smart guy as well. He went to Rice. :p

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
I've heard people say they don't care what celebrities have to say. Not that they disagreed with them, just that they don't care. Of course, I don't hear anyone saying it now.

I often care, and like plenty of others, I support those who agree with me and, if I think the opinions too overboard, I will actively speak out (and use whatever economic clout I have) against those who disagree with me.

That's my right.

Though I've not said it, if I were advising some celebrities, I would probably tell them to keep their mouths shut in regards to opinions that could be opposed by a significant percentage of the population because it can hurt that person's career. And I guess if I were saying that so-and-so should just shut up, that would be where I was coming from.

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by gr8-1
Hey, Berkman's a smart guy as well. He went to Rice. :p

Uh, so did heypartner. I think we'll agree that the fact that someone went to Rice doesn't make you smart. :p

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by mrpaige
I often care, and like plenty of others, I support those who agree with me and, if I think the opinions too overboard, I will actively speak out (and use whatever economic clout I have) against those who disagree with me.


That's fine. I just don't like the hypocrisy of someone saying they don't care what celebrities have to say when they profess an opinion that's different from their's, but are quiet when a celebrity carries a similar opinion.

That'd be like me saying that Lance Berkman is no longer my favorite player the same day that I think that these Dixie Chick boycotting idiots are, well, idiotic.

[The Real Shady]

Originally posted by ewfd
I'm going to burn my Astros t-shirt now.

I can't believe he's so arrogant as to think people care about his opinions!!!!!!11@ :mad: :mad: :mad:

:rolleyes:

I'm growing really tired of this whole double standard.

Of course there is a double standard when you say something negative against the president of the United States compared to the Dixie Chicks. Who cares about the Dixie Chicks anyway. ;)

[bigtexxx]

Originally posted by gr8-1
Hey, Berkman's a smart guy as well. He went to Rice. :p

Good point!! :D

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
That's fine. I just don't like the hypocrisy of someone saying they don't care what celebrities have to say when they profess an opinion that's different from their's, but are quiet when a celebrity carries a similar opinion.

That'd be like me saying that Lance Berkman is no longer my favorite player the same day that I think that these Dixie Chick boycotting idiots are, well, idiotic.

Well, I agree with you there.

I know this has been said before, but I would add to that those who say that so-and-so should just keep quiet with their opinions when they differ from their own and then don't say those who agree should keep quiet.

Along the same lines as what you're saying, but said slightly differently so it looks like I've added more to the conversation than I really have.

[Rocketman95]

You're right mrpaige. But I've never told Bruce Willis to shut the hell up. :)

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
But I've never told Bruce Willis to shut the hell up. :)

Boy I have. About three seconds into "Return of Bruno"

[gr8-1]

My take: dissent doesn't necessarily mean disloyalty. Both Natalie and Lance are proud Americans and I wouldn't boycott either of them (though, I don't have a Chicks CD). They were just being American.

I almost think Nat was playing to the crowd, like "London rocks" or whatever. Feeding on the sentiment? Regardless, I don't resent Maynes or Berkman (especially Lance) one bit. He was asked, he answered the question, and apparently some of you don't like the answer.

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
Uh, so did heypartner. I think we'll agree that the fact that someone went to Rice doesn't make you smart. :p

True. I guess if we used Heyp as a stereotype, we would think that Rice alums were incorrigible rabble-rousers.;)

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by gr8-1
He was asked, he answered the question, and apparently some of you don't like the answer.

The only part that bothered me was the "shooting" comment...sounded weird. He's still my favorite MLB player.

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
The only part that bothered me was the "shooting" comment...sounded weird. He's still my favorite MLB player.

Maybe the question was "Hey Lance, don't you just want to shoot the Dixie Chicks over their comments in London?"

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by mrpaige
Maybe the question was "Hey Lance, don't you just want to shoot the Dixie Chicks over their comments in London?"

Then I worry about the journalist. :)

[Raven Lunatic]

Originally posted by ewfd
So you have to be asked for it not to be controversial?

I see, it all makes sense now.

Now you're backpedaling. You didn't say controversial. You said arrogant. It is not arrogant to answer a question that is asked of you. Do you seriously think otherwise?

Originally posted by ewfd
And if you agree with Lance and his balls aren't getting jumped on for this, then you have proven my point for me about a double standard.

How have I proven your point? You have yet to explain this at all. If I don't get mad at all celebrities for expressing an opinion, that is somehow a double standard?

[Free Agent]

Berkman: "I just want them to move to Oklahoma."


Move to Oklahoma??? Ouch! Now that is harsh!! :)

[francis 4 prez]

Originally posted by Free Agent
Move to Oklahoma??? Ouch! Now that is harsh!! :)

yeah, any good Texan would rather be shot!

[rocks_fan]

OK I try to stay out of political discussion but just to put in my $.02.

Newsprint often can't convey tone or intent. I highly doubt Lance was anything but joking when he made the "shooting" comment. I would've thought the follow up Oklahoma line would have given it away, since NO ONE honestly wants that to happen to anyone, not even their worst enemy :) . Unfortunately, he doesn't have the ability to inject smiley faces into his comments to let the readers know when he's being serious. He was asked a question and he answered it as honestly as he could while attempting to inject a little sophmoric levity as well.

As for the double standard, I don't see what people who agree with Lance are doing is any different from Chick supporters screaming about how "They have the right to express their opinions" while at the same time demonizing Lance for doing the same thing. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they don't have the right to give their side of the argument.

Do I agree with Berk? In this case, yes. Do I think the Chick (not to sound patronizing, I just don't remember her name) was wrong? Yes. Do I think she has the RIGHT to give her opinion? Yes. Everyone has the right to say want they want, but it's everyone else's right to express their opinion on what you say. As our esteemed mod Jeff said in the Dixie Chicks thread:

"Point is, we all have opinions and we all have a right to express them however we like. Disagreeing with an opinion is different from disagreeing with the right to have one. Saying that all actors and musicians have no business having any opinion and expressing it in an open forum is no different than saying none of us has a right to express an opinion. It's what gives Barbara Streisand the right to be a self-righteous blowhard as much as Mel Gibson despite the fact that their viewpoints are in diametric opposition."

[don grahamleone]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
I've heard people say they don't care what celebrities have to say. Not that they disagreed with them, just that they don't care. Of course, I don't hear anyone saying it now.

We care what celebrities have to say about stuff, otherwise we wouldn't post something about 'not caring what celebrities think politically'.

[4chuckie]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
Exactly. Where are the people who said that celebrities' opinions don't matter???

When Berkman steps out of the batters box at a game, asks for a Mic and then says he supports Bush then I will care.

I could care less who supports what, unless they do it on stage in front of people who paid to see them perform.

[RocketMan Tex]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
Exactly. Where are the people who said that celebrities' opinions don't matter???

Right here!

[DCkid]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
The only part that bothered me was the "shooting" comment...sounded weird. He's still my favorite MLB player.
So, what you're telling me is that you'd trade Randy Johnson and Alex Rodriquez for him? :D

Bottom line, celebrities have the right to say whatever they want. As 4chuckie mentioned, I think broadcasting their opinions at an event that has nothing to do with politics is downright reprehensible, but there's nothing to stop them from doing it.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
The only part that bothered me was the "shooting" comment...sounded weird. He's still my favorite MLB player.

my guess would be that it's one of those statements that in the context of the discussion was funny...but read in a bubble later looks worse than it really is. just a guess.

[Chance]

Double Standard Schmouble Standard

I agree with what LB said. It was funny. I will now buy a jersey with his name on it because we have something in common. If he had come out and said he was ashamed that G-Dub was from Texas I would not have bought a jersey with his name on it. I damn sure would not root for him.

If the Dixie Chicks had told the people in the UK they were proud that Bush was a Texan I would have bought more of their sh!t. IF they had not said anything at all then I would have only bought their crap if I thought it was particularly good. Since they took a stance opposite of mine I decided not to buy their crap.

[Rockets2K]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
I've heard people say they don't care what celebrities have to say. Not that they disagreed with them, just that they don't care. Of course, I don't hear anyone saying it now.


I can't speak for everyone, but I personally could care less what a celebrity thinks about issues..I can form my own opinion without the help of someone famous, thank you very much.

Berkman, Dixie Chicks, Alec Baldwin, Streisand....whoever....they all have the right to speak out on whatever they want...I dont care..
Having the right to free speech means defending other people's right to speak their opinion even if their opinion makes me want to puke.
Period. I dont care how controversial it may be, how it makes anyone look in the media, or how other people may think it makes us look.....they have every right to speak out. Same goes for everyone from the most well known star in the world all the way down to the poorest guy in the trailer park...when it comes to the right to speak their opinion.....everyone is exactly the same to me.

[rrj_gamz]

Big Daddy Berkman...

It's funny, but it's true...

He's the man...

:cool:

[UTweezer]

Why do people get incensed about every little thing a celebrity says. Their people just like the rest of us. I mean if people on this board actually said some of the things they post on this board, they'd probably get lynched in public.

[ROXRAN]

I am going to go buy a Berkman jersey and season tickets for life...

[MoBalls]

I really dont care what he says...I just hope he kicks ass again this year.........

[finalsbound]

Originally posted by ROXRAN
I am going to go buy a Berkman jersey and season tickets for life...

ditto...

...well, if I had the $$.

[Hammer755]

http://www.glennbeck.com/picoftheday/03-18-03-pod.jpg

[The Real Shady]

:D Great Pic!

[Oski2005]

Funny, I guess if I don't vote for Bush, I can expect to find my self photoshoped into a picture of Osama.:rolleyes:

[Raven Lunatic]

Originally posted by Oski2005
Funny, I guess if I don't vote for Bush, I can expect to find my self photoshoped into a picture of Osama.:rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure you will have to get famous first. Lighten up, dude.

[ROXRAN]

Do you want to get famous Oski2005?

[Oski2005]

Originally posted by Raven Lunatic
I'm pretty sure you will have to get famous first. Lighten up, dude.

I'm the one that needs to lighten up? Ok, I guess it's no big deal to put Hanoi Jane status on the Chicks for disliking the prez, my bad.

[Oski2005]

Originally posted by ROXRAN
Do you want to get famous Oski2005?

How do you know I'm not already;)

[Raven Lunatic]

Originally posted by Oski2005
I'm the one that needs to lighten up? Ok, I guess it's no big deal to put Hanoi Jane status on the Chicks for disliking the prez, my bad.

To be fair, I didn't suggest that there weren't other people in the world who don't need to lighten up. I just thought that getting upset over the above picture is taking things a little too seriously.

[Mrs. JB]

Originally posted by Chance
Since they took a stance opposite of mine I decided not to buy their crap.

AMEN!!

You know, that reminds me of the time this local guy wrote these funny songs. Before I could buy the CD though, he started posting on some BBS I was on. Turns out he was a liberal bashin' lefty hater ... yadda yadda yadda ... I saved my $13.50.

:D

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Oski2005
Funny, I guess if I don't vote for Bush, I can expect to find my self photoshoped into a picture of Osama.:rolleyes:

That's Saddam, not Osama.

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Mrs. JB
AMEN!!

You know, that reminds me of the time this local guy wrote these funny songs. Before I could buy the CD though, he started posting on some BBS I was on. Turns out he was a liberal bashin' lefty hater ... yadda yadda yadda ... I saved my $13.50.

:D

Chance bashes liberals? Why? I'm a Libertarian, but if someone is willing to divulge his political views that oppose mine, then I guess I (and my friends) won't buy his music. Sucks for him.

[gr8-1]

I would do anything to support the fture of a fellow Rocket fan, but if he hates on certain groups, then I can't do so.

[Chance]

I actually voted for Perot back in the day...I don't bash. I have my opinions and respect other people's opinons. I think diversity is healthy in our country and have stated that on numerous occasions. If someone chooses not to by our CD because I support the President and the troops I respect their decision. I would be a hypocrite if to state otherwise.

For what it's worth, I get along well with just about everyone on here. I would even call Mrs. JB's husband a friend (he is not exactly a beacon of Republicanism). Ienjoy reading the political posts of all of the lefties and the right wing nutjobs. I use this bbs as a pulse of society.

Chance

PS-a lot of you guys are gonna HATE the song we recorded tonight. It's a funny song about how wimpy the frenchies are.

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Chance
If someone chooses not to by our CD because I support the President and the troops I respect their decision. I would be a hypocrite if to state otherwise.




I support the prez as well, and I'll stand by our country till death. It's just, when I saw "liberal basher," I typecasted you. I really hope you do have an open mind. That could get you far in this country, both financially and spiritually. I and my friends would support anyone who has an open mind, regardless if we like their music or not.

[Chance]

I think my mind might be too open. I tend to live life as a hypocritical liberal. I believe that the right is right on most issues and that is better for the US but personally enjoy some liberal liberties. I vote straight Rep. though.

I heard a neat question today on the radio. Dude said..."If Jesus came back to earth tomorrow would he be a conservative or a liberal?"

Pretty thought provocative...

[Mrs. JB]

Originally posted by Chance
I would even call Mrs. JB's husband a friend (he is not exactly a beacon of Republicanism).

That's what you think -- just today I found out he bought a non-organic tomato from a mega-corporation Kroger supermarket. :eek:

Oh, and gr8-1, I was just messing with Chance about being a liberal basher. As far as I can tell, he bashes people of all political persuasions. ;)

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Chance
I vote straight Rep. though.



I'm a fiscal conservative and a social Liberal; couldn't vote straight Republican. Social issues are more important to me.

[Chance]

Originally posted by Mrs. JB
That's what you think -- just today I found out he bought a non-organic tomato from a mega-corporation Kroger supermarket. :eek:

Oh, and gr8-1, I was just messing with Chance about being a liberal basher. As far as I can tell, he bashes people of all political persuasions. ;)

Yeah that freakin' TheHorns guy...;)

[Oski2005]

Originally posted by gr8-1
That's Saddam, not Osama.


Duh. Sarcasm sometimes entails taking things to the extreme.

[The Real Shady]

I guess ewfd has a few more shirts to burn.

Zaun has become my new favorite player. :D


Several Astros, Marlins players line up behind Bush's war plans
By JOSE DE JESUS ORTIZ
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle
JUPITER, Fla. -- While some sections of America protest an apparently imminent war with Iraq, a number of the Astros and Florida Marlins support President Bush's desire to remove Iraq President Saddam Hussein from power.

"Obviously our thoughts and prayers are going out to all our troops," Craig Biggio said before the Astros beat the Marlins 9-5 on Tuesday at Roger Dean Stadium. "I'm in total support of our president. Obviously, he can't disclose everything Saddam has over there and what he's doing.

"Obviously, the president knows that Saddam has something that can do damage to us. The last thing we want to do is go to war. But you know what? Saddam left us no choice. I'm 100 percent behind our president, and I'm 100 percent behind our troops."

Astros second baseman Jeff Kent's support of the president is based on his desire to keep his wife and three children safe.

"I relate the political issues in a small scale in relation to being a father," Kent said. "I want to do everything that I can to protect my family. The value that my children have is incomparable to anything in this world that I have. I think the president feels the same way about protecting the American people.

"I need help in protecting my family from the outside world. I think what President Bush is doing to protect our country enables me to protect my family. I applaud him for giving me the ability to do that. Somebody needs to take a stand. He's the guy that's doing it right now."

Ballplayers have been known to shy away from political statements, but several Astros cited a desire to defend the president and counter the anti-war sentiments coming out of the entertainment industry.

Gregg Zaun's cousin is an Air Force pilot stationed near Iraq, so actors and musicians speaking out against Bush repulse him.

"There's a lot of idiot liberals in the entertainment industry," Zaun said. "We're going over there to Iraq to protect the interests of America and the free world against a tyrant dictator with weapons of mass destruction. That's a threat to decent people all over the world.

"It's amazing for somebody like (Dixie Chicks singer Natalie Maines) to be living in a society that allows her to make the kind of money that she does and feel the luxuries and the comfort and safety and security that she does. For her to bad-mouth our policy and our president and then to make it even more personal to say that she's embarrassed he's a Texan, I don't think I'll ever buy another Dixie Chicks record as long as I live."

Marlins pitchers Braden Looper and Doug Bochtler complained Tuesday morning after hearing a Dixie Chicks song played over the sound system at Roger Dean Stadium.

"It irritates me the way people come out against the war, like the Dixie Chicks," Looper said. "We need to support our troops and back them. And when something like that (Maines' comment) comes out, it's pretty bad. As a U.S. citizen, we need to be there for our troops and back them. I saw that, it got under my skin. I'll throw their CD out."

Ironically, There's Your Trouble was the Dixie Chicks song that prompted Bochtler to look up at the press box and make a slashing gesture across his throat with his finger, as if to say "turn it off."

"We were doing our bunt defense, and I heard the Dixie Chicks' song come on," Bochtler said. "I was like, `No, no, no, no. Shut that down.' I said, `Loop, how can they be playing this?' "

Bochtler has special respect for service men. His father served in the Air Force and Navy. His grandfather, who died last year, earned a Bronze Star and Purple Heart after losing a leg in World War II.

"The great majority of my night is spent watching news," Bochtler said. "I follow it very closely. This is our society. This is our freedom. I like playing baseball for a living. That's my job. Those guys are over there willing to risk their lives so we can live our lives. How can that not be supported by anybody?"

Astros third baseman Geoff Blum and his Marlins counterpart Mike Lowell wondered just how much their opinions really mattered.

"How do you make a comment when you don't know all the information?" Blum said. "If I was in some national security meeting, I might feel a little different, but the chances of that happening are a little slim."

Lowell's father and grandfather were in the Army, but he limits his political comments.

"You've got to put pressure on Hussein," he said. "I don't feel comfortable making a political statement because I'm not a politician. I support what we're doing. If we don't do it, who is going to do it? Unless Saddam starts throwing (fastball) heaters middle in, there's nothing I can do."

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by The Real Shady
"There's a lot of idiot liberals in the entertainment industry," Zaun said. [/i]

And there are a lot of ****ty backup catchers in MLB.

[The Real Shady]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
And there are a lot of ****ty backup catchers in MLB.

lol

[Trader_Jorge]

Originally posted by Mrs. JB
That's what you think -- just today I found out he bought a non-organic tomato from a mega-corporation Kroger supermarket.
Please articulate, in your own words, why you are opposed to "mega-corporations" and food sold by them.

[Mrs. JB]

Originally posted by Trader_Jorge
Please articulate, in your own words, why you are opposed to "mega-corporations" and food sold by them.

Please articulate, in your own words, why you are unable to detect sarcasm.

[MoBalls]

Originally posted by Mrs. JB
Please articulate, in your own words, why you are unable to detect sarcasm.

LOL

[Mr. Clutch]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
And there are a lot of ****ty backup catchers in MLB.

Zaun's actually pretty good though :)

[Sonny]

Chance - I gotsta hear that frenchie song! :)

[pgabriel]

Originally posted by Mr. Clutch
Zaun's actually pretty good though :)


Zaun is a pretty good backup, but he needs to keep his mouth closed. He made some stupid comments during the period last season when it looked like players were going to strike. He's the Sto's player rep. I can't remember exactly but it was something along the lines of comparing his job to the average workers job. It was pretty insulting.

[Band Geek Mobster]

I think this whole double standard argument doesn't hold water at all...

I personally don't care what celebrities think about political issues, but if I happen to catch a quote that I agree with, I might be a little more positive about the guy.

I also don't care what strangers on the streets think about political issues, but if I happened to drive by some "Pro-America" protesters, I'll definitely think positive of those people as well.

Sports writers can only talk about Spring Training so much, with a war coming up, it's only obvious that they will ask the players their opinions.

Note - When I say I think positively about people that agree with me, that doesn't mean I automatically think negatively of people that disagree with me. I still love Ed Norton movies...

[Chance]

Originally posted by Sonny
Chance - I gotsta hear that frenchie song! :)

Kevin is putting the finishing touches on it right now. I'll post a link when it goes hot.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Chance
Kevin is putting the finishing touches on it right now. I'll post a link when it goes hot.

did i hear you on 610 this morning talking to Jeremy??? i missed hearing a song...but i heard your last sentence or so.

[Rocketman95]

I won't listen to Zaun until he gets his OPS over .600. :D

[Chance]

Originally posted by MadMax
did i hear you on 610 this morning talking to Jeremy??? i missed hearing a song...but i heard your last sentence or so.


Yeah I talked to him and Costa. I had to let him know that Jean Claude Van Damme and Kid Rock had Bush's back.

I did not hear from Bush if he was cool with this ;)

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Chance
Yeah I talked to him and Costa. I had to let him know that Jean Claude Van Damme and Kid Rock had Bush's back.

I did not hear from Bush if he was cool with this ;)


yeah..i heard you mention kid rock...what did he say???

[Chance]

Originally posted by MadMax
yeah..i heard you mention kid rock...what did he say???

Here's an excerpt:

The latest to join the debate is rock n' roll bad boy and self-proclaimed redneck, Kid Rock-although you probably haven't heard about it, since, true to his rebellious reputation, the multi-platinum artist isn't toeing the party line.

At a pre-Grammy party, Kid answered a reporter's question about the War in Iraq, and made it clear that he isn't part of the music industry's anti-war faction. "Why is everybody trying to stop the war? George Bush ain't been saying, 'You all, make sh*#%y records.' Politicians and music don't mix. It's like whiskey and wine. We ought to stay out of it."

Kid knows he's no policy wonk or geo-political strategist, but couldn't resist adding, "We got to kill that mother-f@cker Saddam," he says. "Slit his throat. Kill him and the guy in North Korea."

Asked about innocent Iraqi civilians casualties, Kid answered pragmatically, "Yeah. But [Bush] is doing the right thing. You got money; you sit around talking about peace. People who don't have money need some help."

[MadMax]

That's funny...particularly considering the source. I can't imagine Kid Rock talking seriously about anything.

His statement about Bush not commenting on their music reminds me of McCain's sketch on SNL where he was in a parody of an advertisement for a Streisand cover CD. He says, "She's been butchering my work for years...this CD gives me an opportunity to do the same to hers!" Absolutely hilarious!

[rocks_fan]

OK I just got back to the thread and I have a question for Oski. A couple months ago someone posted a Photoshopped picture of GWB wearing the "One Ring" from LOTR, thereby implicating that he was possessed by evil (copyright pending, Harry Belafonte) Anyone who said anything about it was immediately bashed since it was "just a joke" and "well I found it funny!" Why was the Saddam/Dixie Chicks picture any different?

BTW, all of this hubbub over the Chicks' comment is part of a huge right wing conspiracy according to their manager here (http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/3/19/101319) . Of course it's not their fault, it's the conservatives' fault!

/sarcasm off

[Chance]

Originally posted by MadMax
That's funny...particularly considering the source. I can't imagine Kid Rock talking seriously about anything.

His statement about Bush not commenting on their music reminds me of McCain's sketch on SNL where he was in a parody of an advertisement for a Streisand cover CD. He says, "She's been butchering my work for years...this CD gives me an opportunity to do the same to hers!" Absolutely hilarious!


Don't get me started on SNL!!! SNL has long been my guilty pleasure. I love it more than life itself. Seriously, when I die and go to Valhalla I picture sitting around watching SNL for eternity. I have actually taken to enjoying the annoying skits and unfunny rubbish I used to hate. Now I find humour in them and love 'em.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Chance
Don't get me started on SNL!!! SNL has long been my guilty pleasure. I love it more than life itself. Seriously, when I die and go to Valhalla I picture sitting around watching SNL for eternity. I have actually taken to enjoying the annoying skits and unfunny rubbish I used to hate. Now I find humour in them and love 'em.

exactly! i do too...jeff is a big SNL guy as well.

[Chance]

Originally posted by MadMax
exactly! i do too...jeff is a big SNL guy as well.


My bsolute favorite character right now is Brian Fellow.

"That's the biggest dog I have edver seen!"

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Chance
My bsolute favorite character right now is Brian Fellow.

"That's the biggest dog I have edver seen!"

oh my gosh!!! we need to get together one saturday night. no kidding...i sing that brian fellows song all the freaking time around the house...annoying the hell out of my wife. and when she's frustrated with something and telling me some story about her day i'll say, "that's crazy," in my best brian fellows voice.

[Rocketman95]

I'm a huge SNL junkie too. The King Kong skit last week may have been a little much though. :o

[Mrs. JB]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
The King Kong skit last week may have been a little much though. :o

I'm ashamed to admit I was laughing hysterically over that one.

[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by Mrs. JB
I'm ashamed to admit I was laughing hysterically over that one.

"Now he's got a guilty look on his face"

[Chance]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
"Now he's got a guilty look on his face"

Damn you! I was at a SXSW! What was the skit?

[Oski2005]

I never claimed that I don't practice double standards.:p

I don't remember posting anything on that thread, but I did find that pic funny. I don't know, maybe I did overreact, but at the time it made sense. The one of the Chicks criticized the prez, then they're being photoshopped into a pic with they guy we are going to war with. I don't know, I guess it had to do with the fact that there are actual people out there who do think the Chicks are Saddam sympothizers as well as anybody who disagrees with the war. The ring of power thing just came out of left field and nobody really thinks Bush is comparable to Sauron, except for a few crazies who nobody takes seriously. I wouldn't put the Chicks in the category of crazies, or anybody who speaks out against the war sincerely, but those people are called Saddam sympothizers, non supporters of our troops, or un-american day after day. I guess that one pic was the preverbial straw that broke the camels back.

As for the King Kong's dong skit, as I called it in chat that night, King Kong climbes up a building and suddenly gets a stiffy right into an apartment where Salma "arrrgggggg" Hayek and Tracy Morgan are living. They have no idea what it is, but try to toss it out thinking it might be something like a rolled up new carpet hanging down form the apartment above. As they "play" with it, Jimmy and Horatio are cops on the roof of another building commenting on the facial expressions of Kong. Very funny, very crude, but who cares.

[toner]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
I've heard people say they don't care what celebrities have to say. Not that they disagreed with them, just that they don't care. Of course, I don't hear anyone saying it now.

"I DON'T CARE WHAT CELEBRITIES HAVE TO SAY"

But I think what Lance said is funny, and I happen to agree.

...and STILL don't care what celebrities have to say. They are simply people with opinions just like the rest of us. Their voice is no louder than yours or mine, nor should anyone care more or less.

[rocks_fan]

Originally posted by Oski2005
I never claimed that I don't practice double standards.:p

OK just checkin' :D . I was honestly curious because I just thought that they were both way over the top and didn't know what made one different from the other.

Also, it sounds like I'm missing some.."interesting" skits on SNL.