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houstoncart
03-11-2003, 12:27 AM
Im not really a Soccer fan, but i guess it would be cool to add another pro sports team to houston.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/1812669

Dave2000
03-11-2003, 03:31 AM
Whatever happend to the Hot Shots? Or even the Thunderbears?

PhiSlammaJamma
03-11-2003, 08:24 AM
You will come in second to the DC untied. We won the championship in a monsoon the first year.

MadMax
03-11-2003, 09:50 AM
i'm not a soccer fan...but i'm not a ballet fan, either. nevertheless, i am glad we have a ballet company here in Houston in that it provides entertainment for those who enjoy it. the same is true of the MLS...I hope we get a team. I'd root for them...slap Houston on their jerseys and I'll root for just about anything!

BALLhog 247 365
03-11-2003, 12:49 PM
i had a topic about the thunderbears before, everyone said they folded. I would like to see a soccer team in Houston, for the soul reason that Dallas has one, and we a much better city than Dallas, deserve one

UTweezer
03-11-2003, 12:55 PM
MLS soccer...what a joke. DC united? Try Man. United...

rrj_gamz
03-11-2003, 01:41 PM
A MLS team in Houston would be awesome...

We would need a marquee playa, but I think we're missing out...

Kinda like NHL...

BALLhog 247 365
03-11-2003, 03:21 PM
Lets hope the Senators financial woes in Ottawa will continue, so then they might come to Houston. Theyre the number 1 team in the NHL this year too

SWTsig
03-12-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by UTweezer
MLS soccer...what a joke. DC united? Try Man. United...

agreed. i say we make a petition to get the red devils relocated to houston. that would be sweet. real sweet.

mrpaige
03-12-2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by BALLhog 247 365
....for the soul reason that Dallas has one, and we a much better city than Dallas, deserve one

If it were up to me, I'd gladly let you guys have the Burn.

I assume Dallas got an original MLS team because Lamar Hunt was one of the early MLS backers (and continues to be) and he's a Dallasite.

But they've been reduced to playing at a High School stadium in Southlake. Not exactly the trappings of a professional team.

gr8-1
03-12-2003, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by mrpaige


But they've been reduced to playing at a High School stadium in Southlake. Not exactly the trappings of a professional team.

True. But Southlake Stadium is nicer than ever stadium in Houston with the exception of Reliant.

houstoncart
03-12-2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by gr8-1
True. But Southlake Stadium is nicer than ever stadium in Houston with the exception of Reliant.
Remodel the Astrodome!!!!!!

houstoncart
03-12-2003, 02:07 AM
^~~didnt mean to quote.

Mr. Mooch
03-12-2003, 02:36 AM
Well this would at least give me a reason to buy or rent a FIFA soccer game for the sole purpose of getting my ass kicked by some Italian League, correction, KOREAN LEAGUE team.

RocketFan85
03-12-2003, 10:36 AM
That would be cool if Houston got a MLS team. I guess I'm one of those rare Americans who like soccer.

Smokey
03-12-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Dave2000
Whatever happend to the Hot Shots? Or even the Thunderbears?

Alexander sold the Thunderbears to the AFL which I believe kept the Houston name last season but played all their games on the road. The team either became a new franchise or folded this season.

I believe the league the Hotshots were in folded but the Hotshots joined another league and still exist.

Smokey
03-12-2003, 11:08 AM
I'd rather have a NHL team than a MLS team.

I'm sure MLS can exist in Houston especially if McNair buys the team, but I don't want to have a team just to say Houston has a MLS team. I doubt MLS will draw large crowds once the novelty wears off. I'll be disappointed if USA Mexico doesn't draw > 60k. It should sellout.

Smokey
03-12-2003, 11:10 AM
A wrecking ball needs to be taken to the Astrodome. That's prime real estate.

Mr. Mooch
03-12-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Smokey
A wrecking ball needs to be taken to the Astrodome. That's prime real estate.

For what, another parking lot?

kidrock8
03-12-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Mooch
For what, another parking lot?

Strip club.

:p

Miguel
03-14-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Smokey
I'd rather have a NHL team than a MLS team.

I'm sure MLS can exist in Houston especially if McNair buys the team, but I don't want to have a team just to say Houston has a MLS team. I doubt MLS will draw large crowds once the novelty wears off. I'll be disappointed if USA Mexico doesn't draw > 60k. It should sellout.


You underestimate the hispanic community in Houston.

There were thousands of people who went all across the country to watch some of the World Cup 94 games. From Texas Stadium in Dallas, to Soldier Field in Chicago, and the Rose Bowl in Pasadena California.


Having an MLS team here wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, and hell, why not have MLS/NFL/Rodeo at Reliant, MLB at Minute Maid, and NBA/NHL at the new Arena? :)

Live
03-14-2003, 03:27 PM
From Miguel:

You underestimate the hispanic community in Houston.

There were thousands of people who went all across the country to watch some of the World Cup 94 games. From Texas Stadium in Dallas, to Soldier Field in Chicago, and the Rose Bowl in Pasadena California.


Having an MLS team here wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, and hell, why not have MLS/NFL/Rodeo at Reliant, MLB at Minute Maid, and NBA/NHL at the new Arena?

That alone actually makes the MLS a more viable option for Houston than the NHL.

You have a built-in fan base with much of the Hispanic community alone.

What does Houston really have in common with hockey, other than the NHL's profile?

PhiSlammaJamma
03-14-2003, 03:39 PM
Games are cheap too ($10), so if you have a huge base, you could probably draw a good crowd. In DC we have a good mix of international fans who are loyal, but that only adds up to a couple thousand or so. The American fans just aren't that loyal. Crowds have really dwindled since our first season.

When USA played Jamaica in DC, the Jamiacan crowd outnumbered the Americans 2 to 1. It wasn't even a damn home game.

Mr. Mooch
03-14-2003, 03:56 PM
Well, until David Beckham signs with an MLS team and uses all of their salary, the MLS will forever suck.

PhiSlammaJamma
03-14-2003, 04:13 PM
By the way, a Beckham movie comes out today in my area, It's supposed to be really good.

kidrock8
03-14-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by PhiSlammaJamma
By the way, a Beckham movie comes out today in my area, It's supposed to be really good.

Bend it like Beckham?

UTweezer
03-14-2003, 05:43 PM
For the people who really watch soccer.

Dave Beckham is probably the most over-rated player in the premier league. He plays hard for the first 30 minutes. Then disapprears. He is a poor defender.

His rockstar image mixed with PAST success is what makes him so popular. Other than that, I'd take Ruud van Nistelrooy over Posh Beckham...anyday



sidenote, McBride is doing well representing the MLS

PhiSlammaJamma
03-14-2003, 06:35 PM
kidrock, yes. That's it.

mrpaige
04-03-2003, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by mrpaige
But they've been reduced to playing at a High School stadium in Southlake. Not exactly the trappings of a professional team.

Well, the high school stadium is not long for the Dallas Burn. They got their public funding approved for a brand-new soccer stadium in Frisco to be built near the new AA Baseball park and Stars Center near the Tollway and 121.

Of course, it will take a couple of years to build, I assume, but all the taxing entities involved have signed off, and I assume construction will start relatively soon.

tigereye
04-04-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by mrpaige
Well, the high school stadium is not long for the Dallas Burn. They got their public funding approved for a brand-new soccer stadium in Frisco to be built near the new AA Baseball park and Stars Center near the Tollway and 121.

Of course, it will take a couple of years to build, I assume, but all the taxing entities involved have signed off, and I assume construction will start relatively soon.


It shouldnt take that long to build. The Galaxy built their new home turf, The Home Depot Center, in a little over a year. That's assuming this new project doesnt get delayed like so many other sports developement projects do in Dallas (Victory near AAC, devlopement around Ballpark etc....)


Also it looks like Houston is in the mix to land a soccer team. The commish of the MLS really wants to put another team in Texas and Houston is the leading canadiate. Despite the recent trends of soccer only stadiums being built around the league, dont expect one here or for the team to play in a small venue like O'Quin Field (Robertson Stadium whatever its name is today) The MLS wants the team to be at Reliant because they feel the retractable roof would attract more fans out to the game instead of worrying about the oppresive heat. Furthermore, the stadium was built to house an MLS team in the future and the lower bowl of Reliant seats 25,000 which would be perfect for an MLS team. But as every one knows the only problem has been finding ownership. That is apparently being solved though. It appears Bob McNair maybe working on some sort of partnership deal with Anshultz Entertainment, who owns almost half of the leagus teams. Details are still being hammered out but the Texans want Reliant to be a year round destination instead of using for it only 8 regular season gamedays in a year so they could maximize profits. In 2005, look for Houston and Philly to be added to the league. In 2006, look for Seattle and Miami to be added to the mix. Yes, the very same Miami that lost the Fusion to bankruptcy a couple years ago. The mayor in that city wants Miami to have an MLS team and for it to play in the Orange Bowl, closer to the hispanic population so it wouyld have a better chance to survive. Go figure. Oh well, I think our team should be named the Houston Apollos and our colors shopuld be Baby Blue and Dark Blue and white like the Argentina National Team. Those colors look sweet.

mr_gootan
04-04-2003, 11:05 AM
I think that if it wants to be successful, they will have to sign about 75% of the Mexican National Team.

rrj_gamz
04-04-2003, 11:37 AM
This would be so awesome...I've been waiting for something like this and I know this will be a sucess...There are so many soccor fans that don't have an outlet...

I agree that Reliant is the place and I can't imagine spending $$$ on upgrading some old facility...

Go Houston...

mrpaige
04-04-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by tigereye
That's assuming this new project doesnt get delayed like so many other sports developement projects do in Dallas (Victory near AAC, devlopement around Ballpark etc....)

We don't have any problems building the stadiums. It's the promised development around them that never materializes (and I do mean never).

According to the Dallas Morning News article, construction on the Frisco stadium would begin in the Fall to be ready for the Burn's 2005 season. Just FYI.

http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/city/collin/stories/040403dnmetburndeal.a7efa.html

Uprising
04-04-2003, 12:56 PM
USA is going to win the game in MAY. It's a rematch from the world cup, where we beat Mx. USA baby...USA.


Damn, they were good in the World Cup. It would be neat to have an MLS team in Houston. I would support them. Soccer is finally starting to get more famous now, since the great job in the last world Cup...

Kam
04-05-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Miguel


There were thousands of people who went all across the country to watch some of the World Cup 94 games. From Texas Stadium in Dallas, to Soldier Field in Chicago, and the Rose Bowl in Pasadena California.




I think they played in the Cotton Bowl.

mrpaige
04-05-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Kam
I think they played in the Cotton Bowl.

They did.

I don't think they let World Cup games be played on Artificial Turf (which is what Texas Stadium has always had).

tigereye
04-08-2003, 06:41 PM
Get a look at this article I picked up, especially the last paragraph.



MLS now looking to expansion

Fifteen months ago Major League Soccer appeared to be a candidate for the pro sports scrapheap as it jettisoned two failing Florida franchises and trimmed back to a 10-team league. That and this report from The Chicago Tribune's Jack McCarthy

"When the league was going through contraction there were many people saying this was the beginning of the end," Fire general manager Peter Wilt said. "But in fact, it was the beginning of the future."

Finances and spending are now stable, season ticket sales are up in all markets and two new stadiums will open this year. There's an enhanced television package and a solid product on the field. The 10-team league even is talking about adding two teams.

So league officials were upbeat this week as they discussed the 2003 season, which opens Saturday when defending champion Los Angeles travels to Columbus.

"We're feeling cautiously optimistic about 2003," MLS Commissioner Don Garber said during a conference call. "The decision [to contract] was made to shore up our business, to focus our resources on areas we felt would be more productive. … It proved to be a decision that we're very pleased that we made."

Among the league's bright spots are impending moves by two teams into new stadiums. In June, the Galaxy opens the Home Depot Center in Carson City, Calif. and will host the 2003 MLS All-Star and league championship games. By October, the Fire could return to the rebuilt Soldier Field with as many as three regular-season games plus playoffs.

The Dallas Burn, meanwhile, has finalized plans for a publicly financed complex for professional, high school and youth soccer. And discussions continue on a MetroStars facility in New Jersey and a new home for D.C. United in Washington.

MLS will have greater TV exposure with a 25-game package on the Fox Sports World and Fox Sports Espanol networks announced this week. Existing agreements also call for 25 regular-season games on ESPN2 and a three-game ABC-TV package that includes Saturday's Galaxy-Columbus Crew league opener, the MLS All-Star Game and the league title game.

Garber also hopes to build on interest generated by last year's U.S. World Cup success.

"So many of our players helped our country achieve the quarterfinals in the World Cup and woke many people up literally and figuratively to soccer in the country," he said.

Two new franchises are expected to be announced later this season for debut in 2005. Garber mentioned Houston and Philadelphia as the top candidates. That and this report from The Chicago Tribune's Jack McCarthy

rocketsball2003
04-11-2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Mooch
Well, until David Beckham signs with an MLS team and uses all of their salary, the MLS will forever suck.

when monkeys fly out my butt... besides he hasnt been the same since playing in the WC hurt. that was a mistake on his part but he wanted to be there for his country.

but as far as h-town is concerned... i got my usa v mex the second day the tickets went out... i say down with the nhl, we have the ahl which is kinda like college ball but with ticket prices that are a lot better than the nhl.

another thing, hispanics arent the only people that like football(haha soccer) there are a lot of people that fell in love with usa this past WC, but for the record ive been a team USAer since 94.

but as far as the USA v mex game.. i warn you know it will be a fight to the finnish, i see about 4 yellow cards and maybe a red card in that game, these teams just plain do not like each other.. man i cant wait for us to sent the greenshirts back home crying again:D ... what did the pres of mex say when we beat them in WC '02 "losing is one thing, but to lose against a country that doesnt care about the sport is terrible."

i wonder if kobe jones will be playing, because if he is you will see how bad it will get, those mexican dudes beat that poor guy up nasty.

oleeeeeeee ole ole ole.... ole.... ole....

Newgirl
04-11-2003, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by UTweezer
For the people who really watch soccer.

Dave Beckham is probably the most over-rated player in the premier league. He plays hard for the first 30 minutes. Then disapprears. He is a poor defender.

His rockstar image mixed with PAST success is what makes him so popular. Other than that, I'd take Ruud van Nistelrooy over Posh Beckham...anyday



How true! Beckham is sooooooo overrated. I bloody hate the Scum. :mad:

nWo34Life
04-11-2003, 08:49 AM
Watch....in the next few years, the MLS team in Houston is going to go defunct due to lack of interest. It's going to suck...just like the Rockets right now. :D

a la rockets
04-11-2003, 09:27 AM
Soccer in houston?!It's about time!!
The hotshots?Did they even have a croud?!
I think We have a croud fro soccer in Houston,with all the hispanos(is that political correct to call them like that?)
Hope this will be decided soon,i can't wait to root for the Houston...Stallions?!...
;) :D
Anyone know the name and colors of the team?that is if we ever have a team of course!




ALA

PS:Beckham?!What an airhead!try Owen,now that's a hell of a player!
PS2:Bend it like Beckham it's on him at all,don't know if he even appears in the movie!

tigereye
04-11-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by nWo34Life
Watch....in the next few years, the MLS team in Houston is going to go defunct due to lack of interest. It's going to suck...just like the Rockets right now. :D

Nah, your way off base. Thye have already sold nearly 28,000 tickets for that US/MEXICO game when I last heard on 610 AM. Seattle only had 17,000 show up for the US/Venezula match a couple weeks back. This city has way too big of a Hispanic population with an urge for soccer for this team to go belly up. Factor in the other diversities who crave soccer in this city and the fact that this team will be playing indoors at Reliant to avoid the summer heat and you have the makings for a very successful franchise. The attendance sux at Rox games because the Rox suck. I really want Hockey more than Soccer in Houston. But soccer will succed big time in Houston. The only question is will the league survive?

tigereye
04-11-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by a la rockets

Hope this will be decided soon,i can't wait to root for the Houston...Stallions?!...
;) :D
Anyone know the name and colors of the team?that is if we ever have a team of course!


We dont have the team yet, but I have heard "Apollos" float around this city so many times, I wouldnt be suprised if that becomes the name. I would like that too. It kinda' reminds me of Pele's team, the "New York Cosmos" of the 70's. That team was magical every time they took the field. Hopefully the "Apollos" will be the same way.