2003 NFL Draft

[mprodrig]

I was curious if anyone knew how many draft picks the Texans will have next year. Also, after watching the first few games what you think we should look for in the draft. My opionion is that we go after one of the top O-linemen and maybe a #1 receiver. Not sure if Jabar Gaffney is going to develope the way we would like.

[Phillyrocket]

If the Texans do not make the playoffs they will have the extra picks like they did in the last draft. Plus an extra third from a draft day trade and an extra seventh they got from another trade. In other words:
First: 1
Second: 2
Third: 3
Fourth: 2
Fifth: 2
Sixth: 2
Seventh: 4
Most likely they will not go for a top o-lineman in the first round. Targets include William Douglas DT from Miami, Roy Williams WR from Texas and Charles Rogers WR from Michigan State. I would love to see Douglas myself.

[Buck Turgidson]

I thought William Joseph was the stud DT (or the best of several studs) from Miami. Is there a W. Douglas as well?

I am firmly entrenched on the C. Rogers bandwagon, at least for now. It's really waaaaaaay too early to be talking specific players.

[gr8-1]

Wonder if any of the draft picks will want to come to Houston?

[Stevierebel]

No, it is William Joseph.

[Phillyrocket]

It is Joseph my bad. What do you mean if the draft picks want to come to Houston?

[RocketFan85]

Miami has two top 10 picks at defense line, Jerome McDougle and William Joseph. Don't forget about Cory Redding out of UT, or another local guy in Ty Waren from Texas A&M. I would like to get Ty Warren in the 2nd and Charles Rogers in the 1st.

[rezdawg]

Our offense needs help.

Charles Rogers

[RocketFan85]

I agree, we should take Charles Rogers, the next Jerry Rice!

[MadMax]

Charles Rogers!

[RNuss02]

Don't forget Texas' Roy Williams. He's got more overall talent and potential than Charles Rogers but has been injury-prone, so who knows?

[Truth]

Originally posted by Phillyrocket
If the Texans do not make the playoffs they will have the extra picks like they did in the last draft. Plus an extra third from a draft day trade and an extra seventh they got from another trade. In other words:
First: 1
Second: 2
Third: 3
Fourth: 2
Fifth: 2
Sixth: 2
Seventh: 4
Most likely they will not go for a top o-lineman in the first round. Targets include William Douglas DT from Miami, Roy Williams WR from Texas and Charles Rogers WR from Michigan State. I would love to see Douglas myself.

I just really started watching college foootball (strictly for Texans Scouting purposes), so I don't know what this guy's draft projections are, but I was thinking since the Texans have 2 second rounders and 3 third rounders maybe we could draft Teyo Johnson. I first heard of this guy in some thread about Yao's Friend or something, but then I saw him playing on ESPN 2 one day and I came away extremely impressed. He's big and he got moves.http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=103794

[Phillyrocket]

Yeah Johnson is a big target kind of a cross between David Boston and Tony Gonzales. I would love to us nab him as well. But as we approach draft day I have a feeling his status is going to climb.

[HaYnBoi]

I think we should go with a Receiver for our first pick to give Carr another possible weapon. Picking up a O - Line man is a good idea too but i just think with Boselli and Young coming back, suppossedly after the bye week, if they dont get hurt then they'll be good to go next season, then our O line can be for the most part stable. Adding a reciever for Carr seems so far like the way to go.

[Refman]

Originally posted by RocketFan85
Miami has two top 10 picks at defense line, Jerome McDougle and William Joseph. Don't forget about Cory Redding out of UT, or another local guy in Ty Waren from Texas A&M. I would like to get Ty Warren in the 2nd and Charles Rogers in the 1st.
Get both Charles Rogers and Ty Warren...man that would be an awesome draft. Can we get Brian Gamble as well?

[Refman]

Originally posted by RNuss02
Don't forget Texas' Roy Williams. He's got more overall talent and potential than Charles Rogers but has been injury-prone, so who knows?
Charles Johnson is a MUCH better player than Roy Williams. Williams is very talented, but he'll never be anything in the NFL.

[DVauthrin]

Refman,

I beg to differ on Roy "the freak" Williams. Being a Longhorn student, who gets to see him up close on a weekly basis, he is an absolute stud. It's not his fault Greg Davis our OC, has underutilized him with screens most of the time.

Roy is the real deal, and will make a fine pro receiver. I figured an aggie supporter such as yourself could at least see that after watching him torch them in Austin 2 yrs ago.

Last year the wind in CS was terrible and thus he didnt get much happening his way, although Sammy Davis is a solid cover corner.

[UTweezer]

We need a big body, good hands Wide out...

We'll be picking in the top 4 in next yrs draft.

Roy Williams is the man.

[Stevierebel]

Yeah, what if Williams or Rogers don't come out? It does stink to what if especially when we are so many months away from the draft? Expectations might be made and some of you all might get upset!!!! Let them play football and wait until draft time to do what if. Enjoy the Texans now. Worry about the future later.

[FLAGRANT1]

Aside from Chris Chambers, Kevin Johnson, and Randy Moss, first year receivers don't do much . I would prefer the Texans go after David Boston in free agency and in the draft go after the best available lineman. Later in the draft defensive backs, a Tight end.

[kidrock8]

Charles Rogers is easily the best WR in the nation, hands down.

Roy W is in the 2nd tier with Kelly Washington, Andre Johnson, and Reggie Williams. I may be forgetting other guys.

[kidrock8]

Originally posted by gr8-1
Wonder if any of the draft picks will want to come to Houston?

Uh what are you talking about? In the NFL Draft, players are always willing to play for the team they were drafted by, except for John Elway, 20 years ago...

Also, the Texans have the best stadium and practice facilities in the NFL, in addition to rowdy fans and a great owner.

It's not like the Texans are going to be perennial losers like the Cardinals or Bengals.

[NYKRule]

Originally posted by kidrock8
Uh what are you talking about? In the NFL Draft, players are always willing to play for the team they were drafted by, except for John Elway, 20 years ago....


And Bryant McKinnie a few months ago.

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by kidrock8
Uh what are you talking about? In the NFL Draft, players are always willing to play for the team they were drafted by, except for John Elway, 20 years ago...

Also, the Texans have the best stadium and practice facilities in the NFL, in addition to rowdy fans and a great owner.

It's not like the Texans are going to be perennial losers like the Cardinals or Bengals.

I was making fun of 4chuckie. I personally think the Houston sports franchises have an advantage over alot of other cities because of weather, size, and no state income tax. The last one would be a huge deal to me, if I were a millionaire.

[Phillyrocket]

Casserly has a history of taking recievers early. However a lot depends on where we are at the end of the season If we do have the number one pick we will have a ton of options. A few cellar dweller teams like the Bungles and Ravens will be looking for a QB. If we can pull of a trade like the Chargers got suckered into for Leaf, that would be our best option. Drop down a few spots pick up some extra picks and still get an impact player.

[kidrock8]

Originally posted by NYKRule
And Bryant McKinnie a few months ago.

McKinnie is being lowballed by the Vikes... What I was assuming was that gr8-1 was referring to refusing to play for a team, for non-contract reasons.

If you lowball anyone like the Vikes have, of course no one will sign. I don't think that will be a problem with the Texans.

[Preston27]

Only 1 6th round next year, we used one of em in the late draft or whatever it's called on an inelligable O-lineman from FSU.

[ElGrandeQueso]

I personally would like the Texans to draft either Charles Rogers or Roy Williams with their first pick. Rogers may put up the better stats, but when Williams is healthy, he's on another level. Also keep in mind that Rogers is a one man offense while Williams plays with a top 5 RB(Ced Benson) and 2 top wideouts(BJ Johnson and Sloan Thomas). I follow college football and the draft quite closely so if I had to predict the top 10 in the draft next year it would be something like this (also incorporating my prognosticating ability...or lack thereof).

1. Cincinnati Bengals - Chris Simms
2. Detroit Lions - Roy Williams
3. Minnesota Vikings - William Joseph
4. Baltimore Ravens - Byron Leftwich
5. Houston Texans - Charles Rogers
6. St Louis Rams - EJ Henderson
7. New York Giants - Kelley Washington
8. New York Jets - Jimmy Kennedy
9. Pittsburgh Steelers - Dave Ragone
10. Carolina Panthers - Eli Manning

I know Simms going number one seems like quite a stretch, but it might not be far from a reality. If he continues to play well this year(in big games?), combined with his physical attributes and knowledge of a pro style offense, Simms is a VERY good candidate for a top 5, if not number 1 pick.

[gr8-1]

I'm sure Ragone may have a slightly stronger arm, but I think Manning will end up being the best of the bunch. I like Simms as well. Leftwich seems like a less mobile version of Culpepper.

[Desert Scar]

Originally posted by kidrock8
Charles Rogers is easily the best WR in the nation, hands down.

Roy W is in the 2nd tier with Kelly Washington, Andre Johnson, and Reggie Williams. I may be forgetting other guys.

I agree with you that Rogers is the best in the land. Personally, I think because he is so much of the MSU offense that has impressed me more--he can catch it with defenses trying to stop him and knowing the ball is coming. He is sick.

However, your "2nd tier" is better than the best receiver coming out in a typical college year. Personally I think Roy W. is the next most promising after Rogers--Washington seems to have me over the team attitude problems and Reggie has questions about his physical dedication. Andre, he isn't as big and isn't the focus of other teams defenses--IMO the jury is out on him.

[Milos]

If the Texans really want to help Carr, I think the best thing they could do in next year's draft would be finding a stud tailback to take pressure off the passing game.
I'm not sure, but I remember hearing last year that William Green would be the best back available in the next two drafts, meaning there won't be much to choose from. If he's available, I think Lee Suggs would be worth our top 2nd round pick.
Jonathan Wells is not a top-notch starter in the NFL; clearly we need to upgrade. If we could come away with Rogers and Suggs (or another top RB), I think Carr would be the happiest man in Houston.

[Dusty Bottoms]

Originally posted by kidrock8
Uh what are you talking about? In the NFL Draft, players are always willing to play for the team they were drafted by, except for John Elway, 20 years ago....

Originally posted by NYKRule
And Bryant McKinnie a few months ago.

C'mon, this is Houston....what about the Jim Everett debacle? Actually that worked out well for the Oilers because they ended up signing Warren Moon and got Sean Jones and a couple first rounders for Everett if I remember correctly after he sat out for a year cuz he didn't want to play in front of a few thousand people in a dome with bags over their heads.