LOL! COWBOYS WIN! TEXANS LOSE!

[Monkey7392]

Im sorry not everything went according to plan. Last week the Texans were just supposed to fold and then they would be my 2nd fav football team, but what did they do? They beat my Cowboys. NOw ive developed something of a hate for them. Especially when people at my college (the traitors) are wearing Texans gear. Well looks like last week was a fluke and the Cowboys r headed to the playoffs the way we are playing as a team. Good luck the rest of the way with your boyband looking QB(Carr). And ur weak@$$ defence. Sorry guys. HEy im still the biggest Rockets fan in the world so take it easy on me, at least I'm on ur guys side in Basketball . LOL!

[Refman]

Well looks like last week was a fluke and the Cowboys r headed to the playoffs the way we are playing as a team.
One win and you're going to the playoffs. I had to re-read your post to make sure you weren't a Saints fan.

Especially when people at my college (the traitors) are wearing Texans gear.
I had no idea the Cowboys were a college team. That's the only way that college students wearing another team's gear could make them traitors.

boyband looking QB(Carr).
OK...if you say so. I wouldn't know enough about boybands to say anything. Apparently you do.

And ur weak@$$ defence.
Would that be the same "weak@$$" defense that held the Cowgirls to 10 points in a LOSS last week?

Sorry guys.
If you were, you'd put down beer number 7 and stop posting weak comments like the ones you just posted.

[Lonestar28]

Scoreboard

[Truth]

Hey Monkey,(Heh.) Nice title, too bad you couldn't say that last week! Goofus.

[Monkey7392]

Bro, We know Cowboys are Texas team, and WEll Americas team. U dont understand, here in my city there are a whole bunch of A$$holes that just hate the Cowboys for no reason. They see an expansion team beats them and its all over the news. Then they go to school the next day and rub it in our (Cowboys Fans) Faces ohh yeah and well that comment you said about ur defence man how many points did u give up to San Diego?!?!?!?!?!?!?
thats right too much. The "Cowgirls" as you like to call them scored 21 this week against the Titans. Now thats pretty damn good beating a team like the Titans. Its funny how it is so hard to defend such a weak@$$ Texans team. All you can use is well atleast we beat you. Looks like u guys are on pace to go 1-15 after that horrendous outing against the Chargers.

[Lonestar28]

Scoreboard

[Htownhero]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Its funny how it is so hard to defend such a weak@$$ Texans team. All you can use is well atleast we beat you. .

Uhhhhh, isn't that enough?

[The Cat]

read the sig...

[VesceySux]

The Cowboys won a game. So what?

The Texans still beat them last week. Nothing you do or say will EVER change that fact. Sorry, bub. It's gonna be a LONG 4 years for Cowboys fans... Learn to live with the stigma. Don't fight it. :)

[Manny Ramirez]

Umm, monkey, I hate to break it to you:

But the Cowboys won't ever do jacksh!t with Jerry Jones as their GM, and for the record, I am not a Texans fan, but I get tired of these Cowboys fans using that inane "America's team" crap.

Since when has America enjoyed rooting for a team that sucks??

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by The Cat
read the sig...
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE YOUR SIG?! I'm getting sick of seeing it...and sad too.:(

I have no problems with the Texans. They were better prepared that day, and deserved to win. Today, Dallas showed how they SHOULD have played, but didn't. (and I give a lot of credit to the Texans for showing me how sucky they were.) If they play like today every week, I see a pretty good season. However, they are a young team and are prone for mistakes.

BTW, there are some new Texans fans where I live as well. I just try to ingnore them. Much like some of posters here. *cough*ref*cough* :D

J/K man.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by RC Cola
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE YOUR SIG?! I'm getting sick of seeing it...and sad too.:(

I was thinking about doing it soon, until monkey gave me some new quotable material. :)

[Refman]

Originally posted by RC Cola
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE YOUR SIG?! I'm getting sick of seeing it...and sad too.:(

I have no problems with the Texans. They were better prepared that day, and deserved to win. Today, Dallas showed how they SHOULD have played, but didn't. If they play like today every week, I see a pretty good season. However, they are a young team and are prone for mistakes.

BTW, there are some new Texans fans where I live as well. I just try to ingnore them. Much like some of posters here. *cough*ref*cough* :D

J/K man.
pssst...RC...this just in...

MY TEAM BEAT YOUR TEAM!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA. :D :D :D

[Monkey7392]

All i wanna say is Goodluck this season! You're gonna need it :-)

Whoo hoo Houston Rockets 2003-2004 NBA CHAMPS BABY!!

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by Refman
pssst...RC...this just in...

MY TEAM BEAT YOUR TEAM!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA. :D :D :D
So! Uh...my team beat the...team...that beat the team that...was supposed to beat our team for the division title, so...we are division champs! So there! We are going to make the playoffs!

There's my expert logic put to use. :D

(j/k btw, if you couldn't tell.)

[drapg]

this is a pretty funny thread.

the best part? the new quote in The Cat's sig... priceless. :D

i was going to do a rebuttal, a la Refman, but I think you guys are handling this just fine.

Continue.

[DrewP]

The Texans suck.

[mateo]

OK. We're not very good. We're an expansion team, we're supposed to be the worst team in football.

You guys lost to us.

Lonestar28 put it best.

Oh, and I've lived all over America, and the Cowboys are not AMERICAS TEAM. Dream on, Jerry.

[Refman]

Originally posted by DrewP
The Texans suck.
Another brilliant, insightful DrewP post. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

But the Texans (who suck) STILL beat the Cowboys. So the SUCK WORSE!!!!!

Enjoy the next 4 years Drew.

[RocketsPimp]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Well looks like last week was a fluke and the Cowboys r headed to the playoffs the way we are playing as a team.

Or you could say this week was a fluke for the Cowgirls. Keep in mind they scored that 21 against a team without their best defensive player and their starting QB sustaining a concussion. Also, you probably shouldn't be opening your piehole about the playoffs when it is only week 2. Get ready to have your Cowgirl asses handed to you next week in Philly and then again by the Rams in week 4. I'm sure the Giants "D" will have something to say in week 5 as well. Get ready to be 1-4 monkeyboy!

;)

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Well looks like last week was a fluke and the Cowboys r headed to the playoffs the way we are playing as a team.

Or this week was the fluke and they're heading for 5-11, at best, again.

It really is feast or famine with many Cowboys fans. One week, they lose to an expansion team, and all the Cowboys' callers on the radio are calling for JJones' head,Campo's head, Coslet's head while talking about how they've waited long enough to put Chad Hutchinson in and how Quincy's a bust.

Now the hootin' and hollerin' about how this is a playoff team has already started. It will be interesting to hear the talk on the radio this week and then watching it change when the Cowboys post their next loss (which could come as early as next Sunday in Philly).

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by RocketsPimp
Or you could say this week was a fluke for the Cowgirls.

Hey, quit stealing my lines before I post them. :)

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by VesceySux
Sorry, bub. It's gonna be a LONG 4 years for Cowboys fans...

Sorry bubba, but us Cowboy fans arent exactly waiting four years to beat the Texans. Whoopity damn doo. That was last week. It is the Texans fans that despise the Cowboys and think there is already a rivalry. We were down for a weak, but we'll get over it. Most of us are already over it.

And most Cowboys fans dont claim we are "Americas Team". Its not our fault there are some idiots who still do that. As if there arent any dumb Rocket fans. :rolleyes: Dont use a few idiots to describe all Cowboys fans.

You guys won last week so congratulations. Enjoy it, but most of dont care anymore. No excuses about the loss last week.

But we did look pretty damn good today!

However, I realize hatred for team can be blind. So most of you arent going to stop with the Crackwagon and the Cowgirl jokes. Its all good though. I can handle it.

[Monkey7392]

I'm not here to make enemys I just wanted to have a friendy discussion. I posted my opinion and wanted to basically have a good post to talk about. Anyways We are all friends here, we are all Rockets fans ect.. Well the Cowboys, not girls, will shock Philly, then St. Louis cus they are playin like crap. Well the Giants rnt too good either. so well I think we will be 4-1 instead of 1-4 my friend. I wish all the luck to the Texans but i was just abit upset after them beating the Cowboys. I agree then Texans came out playing with heart, emotion, and adrenalin. Something the Cowboys did not have that day. But the 'Boys are starting to mesh and play as a team defensivly. I feel we will get the Wild Card with a 9-7 record. I think the Texans will go 4-12. But then get a Franchise running back in the draft next year. That will be a good nucleous for the future. They Boys and Texans will be great and will Represent Texas with Pride. I wish the Texans Franchise all the luck in the world cept when they play the my 'Boys :)

[drapg]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
But the 'Boys are starting to mesh and play as a team defensivly. I feel we will get the Wild Card with a 9-7 record.


Let's see...

4 division champs, 2 wild cards.

St. Louis, San Francisco, Tampa Bay, Chicago, Green Bay, Philadelphia... which of these teams will Dallas allegedly oust from the NFC playoff picture?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Cowboys will be enjoying the playoffs from home this year, just like the rest of us fans.

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
I'm not here to make enemys I just wanted to have a friendy discussion.

Well gee, you came onto a board heavily populated with Texans fans, called some Texans fans (at your alleged "college") traitors and basically ridiculed Texans fans without offering up anything that could remotely be considered to be either "friendly" or a "discussion". I wonder why people didn't take to you and your post?

I'm glad I'm not a Rockets or Cowboys fan; I'd be embarrassed to share a rooting interest in a team with you.

[Timing]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Looks like u guys are on pace to go 1-15 after that horrendous outing against the Chargers.


One and fifteen but we own you bitches for 4 years. Aaah... that's niiiiiiice. :D

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Refman
Another brilliant, insightful DrewP post. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

But the Texans (who suck) STILL beat the Cowboys. So the SUCK WORSE!!!!!

Enjoy the next 4 years Drew.
OMG your sarcasm is too entertaining Refman. Just because the Cowboys lost to the Texans doesnt mean the Texans dont suck, they do. Hold on to this win for the next four years because its the only thing you'll have.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by drapg
Let's see...

4 division champs, 2 wild cards.

St. Louis, San Francisco, Tampa Bay, Chicago, Green Bay, Philadelphia... which of these teams will Dallas allegedly oust from the NFC playoff picture?

Off-topic, but New Orleans is better than Tampa Bay. :)

[Raven Lunatic]

Originally posted by DrewP
OMG your sarcasm is too entertaining Refman. Just because the Cowboys lost to the Texans doesnt mean the Texans dont suck, they do. Hold on to this win for the next four years because its the only thing you'll have.

I think you missed the point of his post...he readily admitted that the Texans suck. OF COURSE THEY SUCK, THEY ARE AN EXPANSION TEAM. His point was that despite the Texans sucking, they still beat the Cowboys.

[Stevie Francis]

Originally posted by DrewP
The Texans suck.
i have to agree the texans do suck, AS OF NOW.

[I h8 Logos]

as it stands:

texans are the best home team of all time....

texans are the worst road team of all time....

[Castor27]

Originally posted by DrewP
Just because the Cowboys lost to the Texans doesnt mean the Texans dont suck, they do.

And just because the Cowboys beat the Titans doesn't mean they don't suck. They do...

[Roc Paint]

The Dallas Cowboys Suck!!

You guys were lucky that the Titians didn't spank your ass in your home opener. I wouldn't start talking smack just yet.

After week 4
Cowboys 1-3
Texans 2-2

Looks pretty good to me..

..also Dave Campo gets the axe after week 6

[Refman]

Originally posted by DrewP
OMG your sarcasm is too entertaining Refman. Just because the Cowboys lost to the Texans doesnt mean the Texans dont suck, they do. Hold on to this win for the next four years because its the only thing you'll have.
C'mon Drew. I SAID that the Texans suck. Expansion teams usually do. But we hold scoreboard on the Cowboys. It's obvious that it gets to you.

Expansion teams are SUPPOSED to suck...what's the Cowgirls' excuse?

[JamesC]

Originally posted by mrpaige
I'm glad I'm not a Rockets or Cowboys fan;

Your not a Rockets fan or Cowboys fan??? What kind of fan are you? :confused: I'm just curious.

[Rokkit]

Heh.

The next four years are gonna be fun.

[Elvis Costello]

I have been listening to delusional Cowboys fans all of my life. Your season will go exactly like this:

Emmit Smith will lose his starting job to Troy Hambrick and blow out his ACL when he is within 200 yards of catching Walter Payton's rushing record. Career Over.

Nate Newton and countless former Cowboys will still be in jail, rehab, male prostitution and used car sales.

Jerry Jones will return for more leatherwork, er, plastic surgery after losing 41-6 to the Washington Redskins.

The Dallas Cowboys will lose a late season game to the Arizona Cardinals as Bryant Westbrook returns a Quincy Carter pass for a touchdown and miss the playoff for the fifth consecutive year.

And the Cowboys will still be the first team since 1961 to have lost to an expansion team. 19-10, beyotch.

Scoreboard.

[drapg]

how about we put this "which team sucks/which team doesn't" off until more than 2 games are played? What can you truly judge after 2 games? Dallas is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, as were the Texans. But the Texans have an excuse b/c their an expansion team. Dallas really has no excuse.

But let's wait a few weeks before banishing a team to the land of suckdom.

[MadMax]

To sum it up: The Texans are an expansion team...they SHOULD be the worst team in the NFL this season...they start 5 rookies on the offensive end of the football.

The Cowboys were picked by many to make the playoffs this year...they beat the Tennesee Titans yesterday...the Titans are a good football team.

On August 8, 2002, the Houston Texans became only the second expansion team in history to win their very first game by defeating the Dallas Cowboys 19-10. The Texans and Cowboys will not play each other for another 4 years.

There are certain games that get circled on a schedule...they have meaning beyond the season itself. Dallas vs. Houston is one of those kind of games. Texas A&M vs. Univ of Tex is another. No matter what else happens during the season, the fan base is satisfied, at least somewhat, if they beat the hated rival.

The Texans WILL NOT make the playoffs this year.

The Cowboys WILL NOT make the playoffs this year.

So let's look at their head-to-head matchup...oh, yeah...that's right...TEXANS WIN!! Try again in 4 years. We might be a little better by then, though. :)

[ArtV]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Bro, We know Cowboys are Texas team, and WEll Americas team.

Don't tell me you're still wearing polyester suits and platform shoes?!?!

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Dallas did beat the Titans yesterday, and it counts, but I think the Titans had a much better team. Dallas' last two TD were well executed schemes, but they were still lucky td's. A deflected pass and a guy catching a TD in double coverage. If that deflection doesn't occur I think the Cowboys were going to lose. But you can't take away the win from them. They played very well defensively and they made no mistakes.

I am a Titan's fan, so I have some bias, but I think the Titans were moving the ball well enough to win that game until the dflected pass turned the momentum. Then everything changed.

[4chuckie]

Emmit Smith will lose his starting job to Troy Hambrick and blow out his ACL when he is within 200 yards of catching Walter Payton's rushing record. Career Over.

Anyone who wishes a career ending injury to one of the greatest spokesmen deserves to have there team moved again. (Again guys I'm not serious but if you want Emmit hurt, I want the Texans moved)

Texans you beat the Cowboys, yeah!! You will win at the most 4 games this year and have a top 3 pick next year.

Dallas will not be much better, but I guarantee more wins.

Again I know Dallas is not an expansion team but just getting tired of Texan fans expecting miracles. Same thing happened in Cleveleand and they are still trying to becoem a winning team.

[Manny Ramirez]

Originally posted by MadMax

The Cowboys were picked by many to make the playoffs this year...

I would have to say that those people are idiots for thinking that the Cowboys would make the playoffs.

ROTFLMFAO!

[Trader_Jorge]

Talk to us in 2006, Monkey, when the Texas State Championship is on the line. Until then, I refer you to my sig.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by 4chuckie
Same thing happened in Cleveleand and they are still trying to becoem a winning team.

this is EXACTLY WHY fans here were so excited...we were told to expect what cleveland has had to endure...they were blown out and shut out in their very first game against their long time rivals, the steelers...in the texans first game, the defense showed it can keep the team in games and the TEXANS WON!!

i'm not expecting miracles...but i'm extremely impressed with the progress of this expansion franchise in so little time.

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by JamesC
Your not a Rockets fan or Cowboys fan??? What kind of fan are you? :confused: I'm just curious.

I was an Oilers fan and now I'm a Texans fan.

Since I'm originally from San Antonio, I root for the Spurs in the NBA.

[drapg]

Originally posted by PhiSlammaJamma
Dallas did beat the Titans yesterday, and it counts, but I think the Titans had a much better team. Dallas' last two TD were well executed schemes, but they were still lucky td's. A deflected pass and a guy catching a TD in double coverage. If that deflection doesn't occur I think the Cowboys were going to lose. But you can't take away the win from them. They played very well defensively and they made no mistakes.

I am a Titan's fan, so I have some bias, but I think the Titans were moving the ball well enough to win that game until the dflected pass turned the momentum. Then everything changed.

I think McNair's concussion had something to do with the Titans offense becoming ineffective. Sure the Cowboys blitzing had a lot to do with it, but if McNair had a clear head and wasn't weary about another hit, he might have performed better in the 2nd half.

by the way, glad to see another titans fan out here!

[Desert Scar]

Originally posted by drapg
Let's see...
4 division champs, 2 wild cards.
..............
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Cowboys will be enjoying the playoffs from home this year, just like the rest of us fans.

Someone trying to talk crap about the Cowboys but doesn't even know the number of divisions in the league or how the playoffs will be determined, great.
:rolleyes:

The Cowboys have a chance at the playoffs. If Phily beats Washington tonight the division is all square and looks pretty even (any of the 4 teams could come out of it). My bets would be on Phily because they have the one dynamic offensive playmaker, but the Iggles are no sure thing either. The Cowboys do look to have one of the better defenses in the league and the best in the division, again, they have a chance to win their division even if a slim one.

The Texans should be thanking the Cowboys. By the Texans winning against them and then the Cowboys knocking off (and beating up) their divisional rival (and true traitors to both the city of Houston and the state of Texas) they have helped put the Texans to first place through week 2.

By the way the fact so many people hate the Boys through their sucky/mediocre years and the fact they get on TV so much and sell the most merchandise also while they suck/are mediocre proves they are still America's team. It is easy to love or hate a winner, but to love or hate a loser takes timeless perseverance.

Go Texans!!!, F*ck the titans!!!, How bout dem Cowboys!!!, that is all I have to say.

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Desert Scar
Someone trying to talk crap about the Cowboys but doesn't even know the number of divisions in the league or how the playoffs will be determined, great.
:rolleyes:

You're joking, right?

[MadMax]

desert...ummm...i think he's right...i think there are 4 division champs and two wild cards from each conference...

[Manny Ramirez]

Originally posted by Desert Scar
Someone trying to talk crap about the Cowboys but doesn't even know the number of divisions in the league or how the playoffs will be determined, great.
:rolleyes:

Umm, as Max said earlier, drapg is right. There are 4 divisional winners and 2 wildcards. What did you think it was?

Originally posted by Desert Scar

The Cowboys have a chance at the playoffs. If Phily beats Washington tonight the division is all square and looks pretty even (any of the 4 teams could come out of it). My bets would be on Phily because they have the one dynamic offensive playmaker, but the Iggles are no sure thing either. The Cowboys do look to have one of the better defenses in the league and the best in the division, again, they have a chance to win their division even if a slim one.

I guess. It's like that old saying "Anything is possible." But I wouldn't get my hopes up. Any team that has Jerry Jones as their GM is not going to be much.

Originally posted by Desert Scar
The Texans should be thanking the Cowboys. By the Texans winning against them and then the Cowboys knocking off (and beating up) their divisional rival (and true traitors to both the city of Houston and the state of Texas) they have helped put the Texans to first place through week 2.[/B]

WTF?? This is the most circuitous route that I have ever seen a fan of a team that lost to an expansion team take in trying to make themselves think that everything is still alright with their team. Ummm, Scar, all the other teams are 1-1 in that division, so that is not that great of an accomplishment. However, using this type of logic, I could say that the Texans should be thanking the Cowboys because thanks to the Cowboys, the Texans aren't in last place at 0-2, are they?

Originally posted by Desert Scar
By the way the fact so many people hate the Boys through their sucky/mediocre years and the fact they get on TV so much and sell the most merchandise also while they suck/are mediocre proves they are still America's team. It is easy to love or hate a winner, but to love or hate a loser takes timeless perseverance.

Did you ever think that many people hate the "Boys" because of their micro-managing, megalomaniacal owner/GM/coach (Campo is just a puppet) Jerry Jones?? Hmmmm...yea, people are jealous of a team that is 5-11, 4-12, or even worse.:rolleyes: And for the umpteenth time, since when has America enjoyed rooting for a sorry-ass team like the Cowgirls? Huh? I really want to know the answer to that one. Oh, it is just more bunk that Cowboys fans use to make themselves feel better and deny the current nightmare that JJ has put them in.

I have to say that I am shocked at this post of yours, Scar. You usually do such a good job of presenting your points and holding your own; however, it seems like that the Cowboys losing to the Texans has caused you to wig out. It is just a game (although I would have to admit that it would be hard to be a Cowboys fan right now because of Jerry Jones).

[Desert Scar]

Um no, there are 8 divisions. Only division winners will advance to the playoffs, there are no wild cards. Here are the standings:

2002 American Football Conference Standings
EAST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
New England 2 0 0 1.000 37.0 10.5 1-0 1-0 1-0 0-0 2-0 Won 2
Miami 2 0 0 1.000 35.0 17.0 1-0 1-0 0-0 1-0 1-0 Won 2
NY Jets 1 1 0 .500 22.0 37.5 0-1 1-0 1-1 0-0 1-1 Lost 1
Buffalo 1 1 0 .500 38.0 38.0 0-1 1-0 0-1 1-0 0-1 Won 1

NORTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Cleveland 1 1 0 .500 29.5 23.5 1-1 0-0 1-0 0-0 1-1 Won 1
Baltimore 0 2 0 .000 3.5 17.5 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-2 0-0 Lost 2
Cincinnati 0 2 0 .000 6.5 27.0 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-2 Lost 2
Pittsburgh 0 2 0 .000 15.5 30.0 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-2 Lost 2

SOUTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Jacksonville 1 1 0 .500 24.0 22.0 0-1 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 Won 1
Indianapolis 1 1 0 .500 20.5 23.0 0-1 1-0 1-0 0-0 1-1 Lost 1
Houston 1 1 0 .500 11.0 17.0 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-0 0-1 Lost 1
Tennessee 1 1 0 .500 20.0 22.5 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 0-0 Lost 1

WEST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
San Diego 2 0 0 1.000 29.0 4.5 1-0 1-0 0-0 0-0 2-0 Won 2
Oakland 2 0 0 1.000 30.5 17.0 1-0 1-0 0-0 1-0 1-0 Won 2
Denver 2 0 0 1.000 23.5 15.0 1-0 1-0 0-0 2-0 0-0 Won 2
Kansas City 1 1 0 .500 28.0 31.0 0-1 1-0 0-0 0-0 1-1 Lost 1


2002 National Football Conference Standings

EAST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Washington 1 0 0 1.000 31.0 23.0 1-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 0-0 Won 1
NY Giants 1 1 0 .500 19.5 18.5 0-1 1-0 0-0 1-1 0-0 Won 1
Dallas 1 1 0 .500 15.5 16.0 1-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 1-1 Won 1
Philadelphia 0 1 0 .000 24.0 27.0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-1 Lost 1

NORTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Chicago 2 0 0 1.000 20.5 18.0 1-0 1-0 1-0 2-0 0-0 Won 2
Green Bay 1 1 0 .500 28.5 34.5 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 0-0 Lost 1
Minnesota 0 2 0 .000 31.0 36.0 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 Lost 2
Detroit 0 2 0 .000 14.0 40.0 0-0 0-2 0-0 0-1 0-1 Lost 2

SOUTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Carolina 2 0 0 1.000 20.5 7.0 2-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 1-0 Won 2
New Orleans 2 0 0 1.000 30.5 20.0 1-0 1-0 1-0 2-0 0-0 Won 2
Tampa Bay 1 1 0 .500 22.5 13.0 0-1 1-0 0-1 0-1 1-0 Won 1
Atlanta 0 2 0 .000 23.5 25.5 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-2 0-0 Lost 2

WEST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Arizona 1 1 0 .500 23.5 22.0 0-0 1-1 1-0 1-1 0-0 Won 1
San Francisco 1 1 0 .500 15.0 18.5 0-1 1-0 0-0 1-0 0-1 Lost 1
St. Louis 0 2 0 .000 18.5 24.5 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-1 0-1 Lost 2
Seattle 0 2 0 .000 15.0 27.5 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 Lost 2

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Desert Scar
Um no, there are 8 divisions. Only division winners will advance to the playoffs, there are no wild cards. Here are the standings:

2002 American Football Conference Standings
EAST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
New England 2 0 0 1.000 37.0 10.5 1-0 1-0 1-0 0-0 2-0 Won 2
Miami 2 0 0 1.000 35.0 17.0 1-0 1-0 0-0 1-0 1-0 Won 2
NY Jets 1 1 0 .500 22.0 37.5 0-1 1-0 1-1 0-0 1-1 Lost 1
Buffalo 1 1 0 .500 38.0 38.0 0-1 1-0 0-1 1-0 0-1 Won 1

NORTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Cleveland 1 1 0 .500 29.5 23.5 1-1 0-0 1-0 0-0 1-1 Won 1
Baltimore 0 2 0 .000 3.5 17.5 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-2 0-0 Lost 2
Cincinnati 0 2 0 .000 6.5 27.0 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-2 Lost 2
Pittsburgh 0 2 0 .000 15.5 30.0 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-2 Lost 2

SOUTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Jacksonville 1 1 0 .500 24.0 22.0 0-1 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 Won 1
Indianapolis 1 1 0 .500 20.5 23.0 0-1 1-0 1-0 0-0 1-1 Lost 1
Houston 1 1 0 .500 11.0 17.0 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-0 0-1 Lost 1
Tennessee 1 1 0 .500 20.0 22.5 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 0-0 Lost 1

WEST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
San Diego 2 0 0 1.000 29.0 4.5 1-0 1-0 0-0 0-0 2-0 Won 2
Oakland 2 0 0 1.000 30.5 17.0 1-0 1-0 0-0 1-0 1-0 Won 2
Denver 2 0 0 1.000 23.5 15.0 1-0 1-0 0-0 2-0 0-0 Won 2
Kansas City 1 1 0 .500 28.0 31.0 0-1 1-0 0-0 0-0 1-1 Lost 1


2002 National Football Conference Standings

EAST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Washington 1 0 0 1.000 31.0 23.0 1-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 0-0 Won 1
NY Giants 1 1 0 .500 19.5 18.5 0-1 1-0 0-0 1-1 0-0 Won 1
Dallas 1 1 0 .500 15.5 16.0 1-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 1-1 Won 1
Philadelphia 0 1 0 .000 24.0 27.0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-1 Lost 1

NORTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Chicago 2 0 0 1.000 20.5 18.0 1-0 1-0 1-0 2-0 0-0 Won 2
Green Bay 1 1 0 .500 28.5 34.5 1-0 0-1 0-0 1-1 0-0 Lost 1
Minnesota 0 2 0 .000 31.0 36.0 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 Lost 2
Detroit 0 2 0 .000 14.0 40.0 0-0 0-2 0-0 0-1 0-1 Lost 2

SOUTH W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Carolina 2 0 0 1.000 20.5 7.0 2-0 0-0 0-0 1-0 1-0 Won 2
New Orleans 2 0 0 1.000 30.5 20.0 1-0 1-0 1-0 2-0 0-0 Won 2
Tampa Bay 1 1 0 .500 22.5 13.0 0-1 1-0 0-1 0-1 1-0 Won 1
Atlanta 0 2 0 .000 23.5 25.5 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-2 0-0 Lost 2

WEST W L T PCT PF/G PA/G HOME ROAD DIV NFC AFC STRK
Arizona 1 1 0 .500 23.5 22.0 0-0 1-1 1-0 1-1 0-0 Won 1
San Francisco 1 1 0 .500 15.0 18.5 0-1 1-0 0-0 1-0 0-1 Lost 1
St. Louis 0 2 0 .000 18.5 24.5 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-1 0-1 Lost 2
Seattle 0 2 0 .000 15.0 27.5 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 Lost 2


are you sure there are no wild cards??? i thought there were two...but even still..yes,there are 8 divisions...but the only relevant playoff spots are out of the NFC...that would be via the division champ route or the wild card route (because i think there are still two wild cards)

[Castor27]

There are still 2 wild cards in each division. You will have the 4 div.ision winners in each division also. 2 of them will get byes and 2 will play the wildcard teams. Thus you will still have 12 total playoff teams for the whole league.

CK

[Manny Ramirez]

Desert Scar,

You are incorrect .

Look at this link, please, and explain to me why in the hell there would still be a wild card weekend if only 8 teams total made the playoffs?

[Desert Scar]

Originally posted by Manny Ramirez
WTF?? This is the most circuitous route that I have ever seen a fan of a team that lost to an expansion team take in trying to make themselves think that everything is still alright with their team. Ummm, Scar, all the other teams are 1-1 in that division, so that is not that great of an accomplishment. However, using this type of logic, I could say that the Texans should be thanking the Cowboys because thanks to the Cowboys, the Texans aren't in last place at 0-2, are they?


What I was more getitng at is the Cowboys beat the Titans, who will be far more of a rival of the Texans than the Cowboys will and should be. The Titans are in the same division as the Texans and are a favorite, it is obvious the Cowboys helped the Texans cause yesterday.

Originally posted by Manny Ramirez
Did you ever think that many people hate the "Boys" because of their micro-managing, megalomaniacal owner/GM/coach (Campo is just a puppet) Jerry Jones??

People hated and loved the Cowboys even when the gentlemen were in charge (before Jerry & Jimmy)--it was then when they became Americas team. Sure some Cowboys fans swore them off a little while because of the brash brass, but the rest of the league fans just hated them well before because they were the great Cowboys.

Originally posted by Manny Ramirez
Hmmmm...yea, people are jealous of a team that is 5-11, 4-12, or even worse.:rolleyes: And for the umpteenth time, since when has America enjoyed rooting for a sorry-ass team like the Cowgirls? Huh? I really want to know the answer to that one. Oh, it is just more bunk that Cowboys fans use to make themselves feel better and deny the current nightmare that JJ has put them in.


From the animosty towards them even when they suck/were medicore I think it is pretty obvious. Other teams and fans can't stand them because even when they suck/are mediocre they get lots of media attention, put on TV a lot, and still lead the league in merchandise sold most years--these are facts not opinions. In short even when we suck on the field (which only became about because the league changed salary rules--otherwise we would be like the Yankees) we are still an awesume franchise to be--that is why they we are hated. Now that we are mediocre and showing some promise, it just makes people even madder. As for nightmare JJ put is in, that is just an exaggeration. Tell that to Bengels fans, or Chargers fans, or Saints fans, or Cardinals fans, or on and on and on. Pergatory Cowboy land is not, we have a long term comittment and long term perspective--that is what true fans do.


Originally posted by Manny Ramirez

I have to say that I am shocked at this post of yours, Scar. You usually do such a good job of presenting your points and holding your own; however, it seems like that the Cowboys losing to the Texans has caused you to wig out. It is just a game (although I would have to admit that it would be hard to be a Cowboys fan right now because of Jerry Jones).

To tell you the truth I didn't mind the Texans win. I have a Texans shirt and will rout for them as my #2 team. Sure some of my comments are over the top. But I just don't understand how any Texan, Texas or Houston fan would have more animosity toward the Cowboys (if I remember the Oiler franchise fared well against them) than they would to the Steelers, Ravens/Browns, Broncos, Chief, and especially the freaken Titans. If Les next year made the Provo or OKC Rockets they would instantly be on my hate list--and I I don't even live in Houston or Texas any more.

[Desert Scar]

I was wrong about wild cards.

By John Clayton
ESPN.com
"Now that realignment has occurred, the next big topic is structuring the post season. For 2002, 2003 and perhaps 2004, the NFL won't add any playoff teams. Good thing. Twelve is enough. Plus, the NFL needs to see how the change to four divisions featuring schedules with more common opponents plays out. What the NFL doesn't want is having 8-8 or 7-9 teams make it."

I thought the league decided to only have division winners in the new 8-division format but I am incorrect. They take the 4 division winners and 2 wild cards. Apologizes to drapg to I initially responded to.

However this format (6 teams) increases the Cowboys chances at a playoffs, 9 & 7 puts you in the ball park. They key will be going .500 or better in divisional & conference games. I do doubt the Cowboys make the playoffs, but it is not that long of a shot.

[DrewP]

When did I ever say the Cowboys dont suck? I was stating the that the Texans suck. This statement has nothing to do with he Cowboys. Where the **** is the smack talking? I am stating a fact. The Houston Texans suck.

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Refman
C'mon Drew. I SAID that the Texans suck. Expansion teams usually do. But we hold scoreboard on the Cowboys. It's obvious that it gets to you.

Expansion teams are SUPPOSED to suck...what's the Cowgirls' excuse?
It does not get to me. What gets to me is people that come up with these stupid conclusions. The fact that the Cowboys suck has nothing to do with the fact that the Texans suck.

The Cowboys (all this time you have hated the Cowboys you still dont seem to know the teams name) excuse is the fact that Jerry Jones is running the team. Sadly, I dont have anything to do with how the team is run, but I am there every game rooting for them. What else can I do?

[MadMax]

Originally posted by DrewP
When did I ever say the Cowboys dont suck? I was stating the that the Texans suck. This statement has nothing to do with he Cowboys. Where the **** is the smack talking? I am stating a fact. The Houston Texans suck.

they suck just enough to beat your cowboys!!! :D :p

i'm sorry..that had to be said!!!

[Ric]

Originally posted by Desert Scar
By the way the fact so many people hate the Boys through their sucky/mediocre years and the fact they get on TV so much and sell the most merchandise also while they suck/are mediocre proves they are still America's team.
uhm... you'd be wise to check this year's MNF schedule.

Originally posted by Desert Scar
People hated and loved the Cowboys even when the gentlemen were in charge (before Jerry & Jimmy)--it was then when they became Americas team.
what are you, 12? they became america's team waaaaaay back in the 70's, under tom landry.

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by drapg
I think McNair's concussion had something to do with the Titans offense becoming ineffective. Sure the Cowboys blitzing had a lot to do with it, but if McNair had a clear head and wasn't weary about another hit, he might have performed better in the 2nd half.


BTW, I remember hearing from McNair and he said his neck was just a little sore but that it didn't really effect him. So I think the "concussion" was not that bad, even if it was a real one.

However, he may have just been trying not to make excuses because, like you said, the offense did become worse. The Cowboys D may have just picked it up and adapted, or McNair just was not the same. Being a Cowboy fan, I'm going with the Cowboy D picking it up. :D

BTW, I don't know much about Jerry Jones's (is that right?) moves. I think getting QC as a starting QB and other decisions were bad, but this past offseason wasn't bad. We had an excellent draft and picked up some nice FA's. Glover and Hardy showed their effectiveness in the 2 games already. Tony McGee, a TE FA, has a touchdown and has blocked pretty well so far.

So basically what I'm trying to say is JJ is bad and good as a GM, but I won't list too many bad things. :D ;) ;) :p

[DrewP]

Originally posted by RC Cola

BTW, I don't know much about Jerry Jones's (is that right?) moves. I think getting QC as a starting QB and other decisions were bad, but this past offseason wasn't bad. We had an excellent draft and picked up some nice FA's. Glover and Hardy showed their effectiveness in the 2 games already. Tony McGee, a TE FA, has a touchdown and has blocked pretty well so far.

So basically what I'm trying to say is JJ is bad and good as a GM, but I won't list too many bad things. :D ;) ;) :p
RC, you dont know this , but Jerry Jones has ruined our franchise. He is the worst thing ever to happen to the Cowboys.

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by DrewP
RC, you dont know this , but Jerry Jones has ruined our franchise. He is the worst thing ever to happen to the Cowboys.
Well, I've heard he's done that, but I'm trying to say he's "making up" for it by making SOME good moves. May not be the Jerry West of the NFL, but he's trying.

BTW, wasn't getting rid of Jimmy one of the bad moves? I still am sketchy at why they got so bad so quick. I just know a few things.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by RC Cola
Well, I've heard he's done that, but I'm trying to say he's "making up" for it by making SOME good moves. May not be the Jerry West of the NFL, but he's trying.



i think the problem is that he shouldn't try to BE the Jerry West of the NFL...rather he should try to HIRE the Jerry West of the NFL.

[Smokey]

I don't know who knows less about football, the Cowboys or their fans :rolleyes:

Some of the stuff in these threads is incredible.

[Desert Scar]

Originally posted by Ric
uhm... you'd be wise to check this year's MNF schedule.

I notice you didn't take contention with the merchandise sales or the number of times they have had a lead NT game relative to their record.

Originally posted by Ric
what are you, 12? they became america's team waaaaaay back in the 70's, under tom landry.

What do you do not too well, read I guess.:rolleyes: The gentlemen I refereed to were Tex and Tom. Since when have Jerry and Jimmy ever been thought of as gentlemen--even by the people that like them. My whole point is people hated them (and they were known as "America's team") well before they tried to use "brash brass" as the excuse for hating them.

[Possum]

The Dallas Cowboys, America's team.* That statement should always be followed by an asterisk. I think I will start calling myself king of the bbs. At least the Cowboy fans will believe me. :eek: Just proclaim myself and its official. Thats all it takes right DS?

*self proclaimed :rolleyes:

[Desert Scar]

All I have to say is all this uproar about an admittedly bad-mediocre team pretty much proves it.

For the life of me the only reason I can think of Oiler and Texan fans disliking the Cowboy team is envy. I can understand 40whiner, Iggles, Packers, Skins, Broncos, Fish, and Bills fans hating them--after all getting your butts kicked on major stages does that to you. But the Boys were not Oiler division rivals, the Boys never kept the Oilers out of the Super Bowl, the Oilers never had any of their major chokes against them, in fact the Oilers/Texans have done pretty well against them the few times they have played.

It is amazing how much animosity is there when the worst thing that should be there for Oiler/Texan fans is indifference. It is like the Stros fans hating the Rangers. Maybe if the Rangers were as good over the last 40 years as the Boys the Stros fans would hate them to.

Again, "Go Texans, How bout dem Cowboys, and screw the Titans, Steelers, 40whiners, Skins, Iggles, Giants, Broncos, etc, etc." If you don't care to join this train oh well, I won't lose any sleep.

[Lonestar28]

Scoreboard

[Roc Paint]

Texans 19
Cowboys 10

I am sucking this s*** up for a long time.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Manny Ramirez
I guess. It's like that old saying "Anything is possible." But I wouldn't get my hopes up. Any team that has Jerry Jones as their GM is not going to be much.
You mean like winning 3 Super Bowls? I know you're going to come back with something like "That was in the past" ... well newsflash, so was week 1. The only thing that matters is what happens from hear on out.

Personally I don't think the Cowboys are going to beat the Eagles. The Eagles are just too good right now. Do I think they are going to go to the playoffs? Nope, but they should finish about 8-8 which would be an improvement over the last couple of years. You have to realize that as a team (not a franchise) the Cowboys have a younger team than the Texans. Hell Quincy Carter has only started 11 games in his career, and has never even played against the Eagles. That alone should tell how young this team is. Give them time, they are getting better. Thier defense will more than likely finish in the top 5, and their rookies are all studs.

I also wouldn't exactly call what we have here as a Cowboys/Texans rivalry. It seems more like a Dallas/Houston rivalry. You can't really call it a rivalry when you only play 1 time every 4 years.

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Lonestar28
Scoreboard
You are a moron. I saw it the first time you posted it. We understand what the score was.

[Refman]

You mean like winning 3 Super Bowls?
Jimmy Johnson was the coach AND the GM when those teams were put together. Manny said that a "team with Jerry Jones as the GM won't amount to much." That is the distinction.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Desert Scar
All I have to say is all this uproar about an admittedly bad-mediocre team pretty much proves it.

For the life of me the only reason I can think of Oiler and Texan fans disliking the Cowboy team is envy. I can understand 40whiner, Iggles, Packers, Skins, Broncos, Fish, and Bills fans hating them--after all getting your butts kicked on major stages does that to you. But the Boys were not Oiler division rivals, the Boys never kept the Oilers out of the Super Bowl, the Oilers never had any of their major chokes against them, in fact the Oilers/Texans have done pretty well against them the few times they have played.

It is amazing how much animosity is there when the worst thing that should be there for Oiler/Texan fans is indifference. It is like the Stros fans hating the Rangers. Maybe if the Rangers were as good over the last 40 years as the Boys the Stros fans would hate them to.

Again, "Go Texans, How bout dem Cowboys, and screw the Titans, Steelers, 40whiners, Skins, Iggles, Giants, Broncos, etc, etc." If you don't care to join this train oh well, I won't lose any sleep.

ummmm..i do hate the rangers...and the stars...and the cowboys...and the mavericks...simply because they're from dallas and i'm a 4th generation houstonian...the same way philly fans hate pittsburgh...the same way SF fans hate LA teams...the same way Giants fans hate Jets fans...it's interstate rivalry.

[Desert Scar]

Originally posted by MadMax
ummmm..i do hate the rangers...and the stars...and the cowboys...and the mavericks...simply because they're from dallas and i'm a 4th generation houstonian...the same way philly fans hate pittsburgh...the same way SF fans hate LA teams...the same way Giants fans hate Jets fans...it's interstate rivalry.

That's cool, I see you are consistent. Personally, I never had a problem with another team who wasn't an on the field rival of some team I did like, but that is just me I guess. I don't get the impression many Cowboy fans over the years hated the Oilers (I always liked both), but hopefully we can at least agree that the Steelers will forever blow chunks and this first 2 weeks of their pummeling has been quite enjoyable.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Refman
Jimmy Johnson was the coach AND the GM when those teams were put together. Manny said that a "team with Jerry Jones as the GM won't amount to much." That is the distinction. You should try doing some research there my friend. Jimmy was not the GM, Jerry was.

[RocketsPimp]

It's going to be so sweet watching Philly stomp the Cowgirls!

[JBIIRockets]

Remember last year on ESPN Sunday night Football when Philly raped Dallas 40-18. And this final score does not tell how bad it actually was.

Bad Omen for Dallas? Lasy year's in game Philly was also the third game of the season.

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by RocketsPimp
It's going to be so sweet watching Philly stomp the Cowgirls!
I sure hope that comes true....in college or high school football. Or maybe even girls volleyball. They probably have schools where the girls' teams are called Cowgirls. My school has Bobcats and Ladycats.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by JBIIRockets
Remember last year on ESPN Sunday night Football when Philly raped Dallas 40-18. And this final score does not tell how bad it actually was.
Last year means nothing at this point. Dallas has added more talent, and will have a more confident Quincy Carter.

Just for the record you guys do realize that this will be the first time Q has ever played against the Eagles?

[DrewP]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
You should try doing some research there my friend. Jimmy was not the GM, Jerry was.
Or you could do some research. Ever since Jerry bought the team, he has been able to do whatever he wants. You think Dave Campo is the head coach? HA! He is just a puppet. They are all puppets. Thats why Johnson left. He no longer wanted to be Jerry's pawn.

[Lonestar28]

DrewP- glad you can read a-hole. Just wanted to let the cowboy fans know that they can run as much smak as they want but in the end it just comes down to scoreboard.

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Lonestar28
DrewP- glad you can read a-hole. Just wanted to let the cowboy fans know that they can run as much smak as they want but in the end it just comes down to scoreboard.

Okay dumb****. You proved your point. Some Texans fans can be as big of idiots as some Cowboys fans.

[Lonestar28]

Now the shoe is on the other foot for a change. Cowboy fans don't like Texan fans talking smak and running their mouths. Now that is the pot callin' the kettle black. Just get over it, we got scoreboard for the next 4 years.

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by Lonestar28
Now the shoe is on the other foot for a change. Cowboy fans don't like Texan fans talking smak and running their mouths. Now that is the pot callin' the kettle black. Just get over it, we got scoreboard for the next 4 years.
I didn't talk trash before, and I don't like the Texan smack talking, but I take it anyway. Its all apart of being a fan. When your team loses to another team, you take talk from that team's fans. I get a lot of "the Rockets suck" at school. I don't go off on them and eat their brains. I just take it, but try to persuade them that the Rockets don't.

JMO on these things.

(so talk all the trash you want, I can take it! :D )

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Lonestar28
Now the shoe is on the other foot for a change. Cowboy fans don't like Texan fans talking smak and running their mouths. Now that is the pot callin' the kettle black. Just get over it, we got scoreboard for the next 4 years.
Are you done with your babbling yet? You are an idiot.

[Refman]

Originally posted by RC Cola
I didn't talk trash before, and I don't like the Texan smack talking, but I take it anyway. Its all apart of being a fan. When your team loses to another team, you take talk from that team's fans. I get a lot of "the Rockets suck" at school. I don't go off on them and eat their brains. I just take it, but try to persuade them that the Rockets don't.

JMO on these things.

(so talk all the trash you want, I can take it! :D )
RC...you should just bust those guys in the mouth. :D

[Lonestar28]

Damn that hurts don't it DrewP?

[asw]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
You should try doing some research there my friend. Jimmy was not the GM, Jerry was.

Are you actually trying to insinuate that Jerry had anything to do with putting the super bowl teams together? He could have very well held the title of gm back then, but who cares? Everyone and I mean EVERYONE, other than maybe you, knows that Jimmy put that team together and Jerry did nothing other than approve whatever Jimmy wanted to do.

Then he got all cocky and wanted the respect and admiration of everyone for having actually put the team together. When he did not do that! Jimmy got sick of his posturing for cameras and doing interviews and taking credit! So, Jimmy bolted and basically left it for Jerry to prove he ACTUALLY COULD put together a super bowl team. What did Jerry do? Hire his buddy from Oklahoma, whom got run out of his college job! This guy had no business being an NFL coach. He tried to stay out of the way and they managed, on sheer talent and good assistant coaches, to win another title.

Then the sham was really on. The players started bolting in free agency and top players stopped wanting to come to Dallas. Jerry took over decision making on draft day and the team had many terrible drafts in a row! That is why the team is in the state it is now.

I am not going to bash the cowboys, I was a HUGE fan of the Cowboys when they won all the time and did it with respect for themselves and their opponents. Jerry purchased the team and immediately disrespected one of the most admired, professional, and successful coaches of all time! That was disgusting! He ran Jimmy off! That was disgusting!

How, you guys can continue to blindly follow this guy is beyond me. I will never be a Cowboys fan again, as long as Jerry is the owner. He does not deserve it. His track record shows that he will step on anyone, to try to prop himself up.

Another thing, I am a native Houstonian. Always a big time Oiler fan since before Earl Campbell came on the scene. We had an owner that over time showed disrespect to people in how he handled the affairs of the team. He ran off good people. He meddled in the putting together of the talent on the team. He really got in the way of the coaches trying to build a winner and hence we could never win when it counted. What did we do as a city... basically run the guy out of town. We are better off for it! We have an owner now that is bent on running things with respect and class, just like the Tex Schramm, Tom Landry Cowboys. I feel sorry for you guys. You will suffer for a long time.

One last thing... we have seen the Oilers/Titans blow many a game that they were supposed to win. This is just typical of this team. Not a sign the Cowboys all of a sudden got good in a week. Another reason I am glad that team is gone... keep in mind the Titans went to a Super Bowl, shockingly enough to all of us in Houston, although they did need a miracle finish, (while heavy favorites) just to get there. Then they blow it in the playoffs the next year, as a heavy favorite. Then as a heavy favorite last year, they go 7-9. How many teams that beat them last year, thought that was a great sign of things to come for their team????

[Holden]

i didnt care who won the titans vs girls game.
i hate dallas, but tenn is in our division and i just cant root for anyone in our division. now we are all one and one so its all good.
you know how all the experts were saying the girls would win their first game and then probably lose theyre next four. well look at the schedule. they just flip flopped the first two. cowboys will be 1-4.

the cowboys used to be americas team. now a days its obviously the carolina panthers.

[Roc Paint]

Well, it was getting pretty damn old.
Cowboys suck!! :)

[Roc Paint]

Originally posted by Roc Paint
Well, it was getting pretty damn old.
Cowboys suck!! :)

Disreguard post...

Except the Cowboys suck part..

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Lonestar28
Damn that hurts don't it DrewP?
No it doesnt. Please dont ever post again.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by DrewP
Or you could do some research. Ever since Jerry bought the team, he has been able to do whatever he wants. You think Dave Campo is the head coach? HA! He is just a puppet. They are all puppets. Thats why Johnson left. He no longer wanted to be Jerry's pawn. What does any of that have to do with Jerry being the GM, and Jimmy not being the GM? What you said just proves my point that Jerry was the GM during the 90's dynasty so he deserves as much credit as Jimmy does.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by asw
Are you actually trying to insinuate that Jerry had anything to do with putting the super bowl teams together? He could have very well held the title of gm back then, but who cares? Everyone and I mean EVERYONE, other than maybe you, knows that Jimmy put that team together and Jerry did nothing other than approve whatever Jimmy wanted to do.
There's no denying that Jimmy was a very big part of Dallas' success but he was not the sole reason we won all those Super Bowls. If he was then Miami would be in the middle of a very long run themselves. Like I said Jimmy & Jerry are the reason we won. Both had equal parts in the success we had. Also for the record, Jimmy didn't want Troy he wanted Steve Walsh. Jerry made the decision to keep Troy over Walsh. Also Jimmy didn't want Emmitt. He wanted a stud DT. Again Jerry, and one of the scouts made the decision to take Emmitt. Again if you guys don't know that then maybe you should do more research.

[Gascon]

I'm only just now responding from this because I've been laughing so hard at the suggestion that the Cowboys might actually get somewhere near the playoffs this year.

Bwa hahahahahahhhaha :D

Oh, my....that was good. Let me catch my breath.



Oh and DrewP, the best thing about us "holding on" to our one little glimmer of happiness by beating the Cowboys, is that in four years.......



We're still going to be better than the Cowboys!!!



Bwa hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

[BanginScrew]

The funny thing is that in 4 years the Cowboys may still be the only team the Texans have beaten. Now that's funny!

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
The funny thing is that in 4 years the Cowboys may still be the only team the Texans have beaten. Now that's funny!
And we'll beat those cowboys every 4 years to the end of eternity. So we'll be the best team in Texas.

[Ric]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
The funny thing is that in 4 years the Cowboys may still be the only team the Texans have beaten. Now that's funny!
wait, wait, wait... being the only victim over an unprecedented 64-game stretch is somehow supposed to make us feel bad, and you better? f'ing cowboy fans... they can't even figure out to run smack.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Ric
wait, wait, wait... being the only victim over an unprecedented 64-game stretch is somehow supposed to make us feel bad, and you better? f'ing cowboy fans... they can't even figure out to run smack. To tell you the truth, you can beat us all you want. Beating the Texans is not the Cowboys biggest concern. Winning titles is our biggest concern, and last I checked we still have 5 NFL Titles, and Houston has how many? So if beating America's Team is your ultimate goal then by all means beat us every time because seeing Jerry Jones hold up that Lombardi Trophy will make it all better.

[VesceySux]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
[B]Winning titles is our biggest concern, and last I checked we still have 5 NFL Titles, and Houston has how many? [B]

Woah. Wait a minute. You're using # of championships as your smack talk argument against an expansion team in its first year? Geez. How desperate can you get?

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by VesceySux
Woah. Wait a minute. You're using # of championships as your smack talk argument against an expansion team in its first year? Geez. How desperate can you get?
I'm not trying to talk smack, but I'm sure he meant Houston as a whole, not just the Texans. This would include the Oilers with the Texans. (well, actually just the Oilers.) In that case, Houston is behind.

(just giving my view of his post.)

[DrewP]

Originally posted by RC Cola
I'm not trying to talk smack, but I'm sure he meant Houston as a whole, not just the Texans. This would include the Oilers with the Texans. (well, actually just the Oilers.) In that case, Houston is behind.

(just giving my view of his post.)
Damnit RC stop talking like you are scared. Have a point of view and express it how it is. You have to put those Texans fans in their place.

[asw]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
There's no denying that Jimmy was a very big part of Dallas' success but he was not the sole reason we won all those Super Bowls. If he was then Miami would be in the middle of a very long run themselves. Like I said Jimmy & Jerry are the reason we won. Both had equal parts in the success we had. Also for the record, Jimmy didn't want Troy he wanted Steve Walsh. Jerry made the decision to keep Troy over Walsh. Also Jimmy didn't want Emmitt. He wanted a stud DT. Again Jerry, and one of the scouts made the decision to take Emmitt. Again if you guys don't know that then maybe you should do more research.

Hey, I hate to break it to you, but if you believe that Jerry Jones, whom had all of 12 months experience in football period, needed to recognize that Troy was a better talent than Steve Walsh, then you have been falling for Jerry propaganda for years. The fact Jerry was able to convince you of that is a key reason why Jimmy left. It was a joke!

Everyone in the US knew that other than, it appears, some blindly loyal Cowboys fans. Jimmy drafted Steve with the sole purpose of playing him and making him look like a legit NFL quarterback, so he could swindle some picks out of another team that was desperate. Jimmy crafted the Herschel Walker trade. Are you going to seriously try to take the position that Jerry had anything to do with that? The reason he did not make it happen in Miami, like he did in Dallas, was the other teams wised up to his method of dealmaking and they got tired of always looking like the stupid one on the other end of a Jimmy deal.

So, they became very very carefull in doing any deals with him. Hence no super team like he built in Dallas. There have been many methods of gathering information about the NFL over the years, and I believe I have done more "research" other than listen to whatever Jerry or some Jerry supporter out of Dallas tells me. The friction between them and what was behind it was very well publicized. There was a lot of information on what happened that either you never attained or flat out just did not want to believe. I can understand not wanting to believe it because, if what people like me say is true... you are screwed as a Cowboys fan and likely to never see Jerry hold up the trophy again. Twenty years from now you will be talking about how your
team still has those five championships. As for Emmit, dude, maybe you don't remember this but the Cowboys were quite stunned he was there. When you are surprised someone falls to you, you move away from what you had anticipated doing and take him.

[Possum]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
To tell you the truth, you can beat us all you want. Beating the Texans is not the Cowboys biggest concern. Winning titles is our biggest concern, and last I checked we still have 5 NFL Titles, and Houston has how many? So if beating America's Team is your ultimate goal then by all means beat us every time because seeing Jerry Jones hold up that Lombardi Trophy will make it all better.

How many years has it been since your Cowgirls won a title? How many players still play for the Cowgirls were on those championship teams? How many years have the Cowgirls been rebuilding? You're living in the past man. The Cowgirls have about as much chance of winning a super bowl in the next 2 or 3 years as the Texans and that's pretty pathetic considering were an expansion team. :p

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by DrewP
Damnit RC stop talking like you are scared. Have a point of view and express it how it is. You have to put those Texans fans in their place.
Sorry, but I don't want to talk trash to anyone. Especially in a Houston Texans forum. Lets say I joined in and said "Texans suck, we'll beat you 70-9. GO COWBOYS!" Well, I'd be pretty mad when people brought those quotes back. Then I'd get mad and when they lose, I'd make a thread talking smack about their loss. Then they'd do the same when the Cowboys lose. And then...

Wait, lets just say I don't like talking smack.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by RC Cola
Sorry, but I don't want to talk trash to anyone. Especially in a Houston Texans forum. Lets say I joined in and said "Texans suck, we'll beat you 70-9. GO COWBOYS!" Well, I'd be pretty mad when people brought those quotes back. Then I'd get mad and when they lose, I'd make a thread talking smack about their loss. Then they'd do the same when the Cowboys lose. And then...

Wait, lets just say I don't like talking smack.

integrity is a good thing, RC....good for you! you are mature beyond your years!

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by RC Cola
I'm not trying to talk smack, but I'm sure he meant Houston as a whole, not just the Texans. This would include the Oilers with the Texans. (well, actually just the Oilers.) In that case, Houston is behind.
That's exactly what I meant.

Dallas - 5
Houston - 0

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Possum
You're living in the past man. And yet you guys keep refering to Week 1. We're going into Week 3 already. Seems like you guys are the one's living in the past.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Possum
How many years has it been since your Cowgirls won a title? And how many years has it been since the city of Houston won an NFL Title?

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by asw
Hey, I hate to break it to you, but if you believe that Jerry Jones, whom had all of 12 months experience in football period You guys must REALLY hate doing research. In case you didn't know Jerry also played Division I football so he obviously had more than 12 months experience.


Jimmy drafted Steve with the sole purpose of playing him and making him look like a legit NFL quarterback, so he could swindle some picks out of another team that was desperate. Jimmy crafted the Herschel Walker trade. Are you going to seriously try to take the position that Jerry had anything to do with that? The reason he did not make it happen in Miami, like he did in Dallas, was the other teams wised up to his method of dealmaking and they got tired of always looking like the stupid one on the other end of a Jimmy deal. "Jimmy drafted Steve with the sole purpose of playing him and making him look like a legit NFL quarterback, so he could swindle some picks out of another team that was desperate. " LOL! Talk about reaching for an excuse. I suppose you've also been abducted by aliens too huh? LOL! You guys crack me up sometimes. As for the Walker trade, that was pretty brilliant by Jimmy. Like I said Jimmy had as much to do with the Cowboys success as Jerry did, no denying that. The reason Jimmy didn't succeed in Miami is because he didn't have a GM like Jerry backing him up. If he did they would have won multiple titles.

As for Emmit, dude, maybe you don't remember this but the Cowboys were quite stunned he was there. When you are surprised someone falls to you, you move away from what you had anticipated doing and take him. Again I can't stress enough how important research is. It's a fact that Jimmy wanted a stud DT with that top pick. It's not coincidence that he draft Maryland with the Cowboys first pick the very next year.

[Monkey7392]

Watching the Texans play football is like watching a retard trying to f*ck. LOL, I know you Texans fans are going to say something stupid too like "duh huh huh, you watch retards f#ck, well i dont so dont say stupid $hit like that

[Gascon]

Originally posted by RC Cola
I'm not trying to talk smack, but I'm sure he meant Houston as a whole, not just the Texans. This would include the Oilers with the Texans. (well, actually just the Oilers.) In that case, Houston is behind.

(just giving my view of his post.)


Why is anyone talking about the Oilers? Oilers who? This is a different franchise. The Oilers are dead....good riddance. If you want to talk about Dallas vs Houston go to the Hangout Forum. We're talking about the Houson Texans vs The Dallas Cowboys. The record of which stands at:

Houston - 1

Dallas - 0


We got rid of the Oilers and their a$$hole owner. Dallas might follow our example if they knew what was good for them.

btw, this is not directed at you, RC.... :)

[Refman]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Watching the Texans play football is like watching a retard trying to f*ck. LOL, I know you Texans fans are going to say something stupid too like "duh huh huh, you watch retards f#ck, well i dont so dont say stupid $hit like that
Nope. But the fact that you find that funny just makes you suspect...in MANY ways.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Monkey7392
Watching the Texans play football is like watching a retard trying to f*ck. LOL, I know you Texans fans are going to say something stupid too like "duh huh huh, you watch retards f#ck, well i dont so dont say stupid $hit like that


this easily ranks in the top 5 worst posts i have ever read on Clutch BBS.

[Monkey7392]

Im honored to be on that list. LOL

[The Cat]

Originally posted by MadMax
this easily ranks in the top 5 worst posts i have ever read on Clutch BBS.

Top 5? I'm thinking top 3...

By the way, as long as I'm in this thread again, read the sig...

[DrewP]

Originally posted by The Cat
Top 5? I'm thinking top 3...

By the way, as long as I'm in this thread again, read the sig...
Monkey, you should also stop posting. You are a leading contributer to bad relations with all other football fans. I would rather have a real monkey represent Cowboys fans than you.

[VesceySux]

Originally posted by DrewP
Monkey, you should also stop posting. You are a leading contributer to bad relations with all other football fans. I would rather have a real monkey represent Cowboys fans than you.

[in my best nature documentary voice]
"Watch... as the wounded Cowboys fans, struggling for survival, begin to turn on one another, shattering their desperate defense against the unified gaggle of Texans fans, the Cowboys fans' natural predator..."

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by The Cat
By the way, as long as I'm in this thread again, read the sig... It's almost as good as mine.

[Refman]

Originally posted by VesceySux
[in my best nature documentary voice]
"Watch... as the wounded Cowboys fans, struggling for survival, begin to turn on one another, shattering their desperate defense against the unified gaggle of Texans fans, the Cowboys fans' natural predator..."
Hilarious...simply hilarious!!!! Great post.

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
It's almost as good as mine.
Keep polishing up those trophies from 25 years ago...and the ones from 7 to 8 years ago. :rolleyes:

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Refman
Keep polishing up those trophies from 25 years ago...and the ones from 7 to 8 years ago. :rolleyes: Don't worry we will. And keep on being envious because you guys will never have one for yourselves much less 5 of them.

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
Don't worry we will. And keep on being envious because you guys will never have one for yourselves much less 5 of them.
I suppose you'll be 90 years old talking about how great Troy Aikman was...back in the day...when the Cowboys still posted a winning record.

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by Refman
I suppose you'll be 90 years old talking about how great Troy Aikman was...back in the day...when the Cowboys still posted a winning record.
There goes my retirement plan! Man, why'd you have to ruin it? (j/k)

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Refman
I suppose you'll be 90 years old talking about how great Troy Aikman was...back in the day...when the Cowboys still posted a winning record. About that same time Houston will have through it's 20th NFL team still wishing for 1 title.

[Refman]

Originally posted by RC Cola
There goes my retirement plan! Man, why'd you have to ruin it? (j/k)
Because I'm a mean, crotchety old man. Haven't you picked up on that yet? :D

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
About that same time Houston will have through it's 20th NFL team still wishing for 1 title.
Wow...and how many pro football teams has Dallas run off? Houston has only had one other team. Sounds like Dallas is the town that has had trouble hanging onto a team. Now back in your glass house.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Refman
Wow...and how many pro football teams has Dallas run off? Houston has only had one other team. Sounds like Dallas is the town that has had trouble hanging onto a team. Now back in your glass house. Good point. Forgot Dallas exchanged that crappy a$$ team the Texans for a real NFL team.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
It's almost as good as mine.

Well, you're free to live in the past all you want... I would prefer to concentrate on this season.

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by The Cat
Well, you're free to live in the past all you want... And yet you refer to a game that happened over 2 weeks ago. :rolleyes:

[The Cat]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
And yet you refer to a game that happened over 2 weeks ago. :rolleyes:

Yeah, games that happened in the same season are definitely comparable to games from seasons a decade or more ago. :rolleyes:

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by The Cat
Yeah, games that happened in the same season are definitely comparable to games from seasons a decade or more ago. :rolleyes: Unless the game is next on the schedule it means nothing.

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
Unless the game is next on the schedule it means nothing.
Oh so that explains your sig. :rolleyes:

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
Good point. Forgot Dallas exchanged that crappy a$$ team the Texans for a real NFL team.
For the record, Dallas didn't get rid of the team or exchange anything...THE TEAM LEFT!!!! TWICE!!!!

The 2 incarnations of the Dallas Texans became the Baltimore Colts (now Indy) and the Kansas City Chiefs. Both of those teams have had nice runs themselves...so they weren't exactly "crappy a$$" as you so eloquently put it. :rolleyes:

[DrewP]

What the hell is being argued here exactly?

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Refman
The 2 incarnations of the Dallas Texans became the Baltimore Colts (now Indy) and the Kansas City Chiefs. Both of those teams have had nice runs themselves...so they weren't exactly "crappy a$$" as you so eloquently put it. :rolleyes: Did any of them win any titles?

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
Did any of them win any titles?
Yep...the 1962 Dallas Texans won the AFL title. They moved to KC following that season. So the team moved right after winning a championship. Good job Dallas!!!!

[BanginScrew]

Originally posted by Refman
Yep...the 1962 Dallas Texans won the AFL title. They moved to KC following that season. So the team moved right after winning a championship. Good job Dallas!!!! My mistake. So the city of Dallas has 6 Pro Football Titles instead of 5. Thanks for pointing that out to everyone.

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by The Cat
Well, you're free to live in the past all you want... I would prefer to concentrate on this season.


But in basketball its okay to keep on bringing up the Spers past asterick accomplishments and compare them to the Lakers? Its okay to constantly whine about the Lakers months after they've won the title?

:rolleyes:

I seriously doubt you Texans fans will be happy beating the Cowboys once every four years while accomplishing nothing else.

:rolleyes:

I still dont understand why Texans fans hate Cowboys soooooo much? We never did anything to the Texans or even Oilers as far back as I can remember.

Spead the jealously and envy baby. There is plenty here to go around.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
But in basketball its okay to keep on bringing up the Spers past asterick accomplishments and compare them to the Lakers? Its okay to constantly whine about the Lakers months after they've won the title?

:rolleyes:

When have I started those threads? When I talk about either of those topics, it's because someone else started a thread praising the Lakers or referring to their play last season. I don't want to talk about it... I like looking at the season ahead. However, if something the opposite of my belief is stated, I'm not just going to ignore it...

Also, unless you have documented proof that you called the Spurs season "asterisked" before it began (when we got Scottie Pippen), please stop it. It just makes you look like a sore loser. It was either asterisked from the start, or it wasn't. You can't just call it asterisked when a team you didn't like won.

[R0ckets03]

Why the hell am I a sore loser? I hate the Spurs and Lakers equally, but the Spurs are an asterick champion in my book.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Why the hell am I a sore loser? I hate the Spurs and Lakers equally, but the Spurs are an asterick champion in my book.

Because your book changed after the season. I didn't see one Rocket fan, either at the games, in the city, or on online message boards, that even mentioned that the championship that year would mean less. When we got Pippen, this city had NBA fever... everyone was thinking championship. If a 50 game regular season makes it an asterisk, you should've spoken up before the season, when everyone was talking about the Rockets winning a championship, and said the championship would have less meaning.

I saw no one do this for any team. Stadiums were sold out, the league was popular, merchandise was high... fans wouldn't be that involved if they didn't think the season was legit.

Anyway, to the original point... either it's an asterisk, or it's not. It's not a real season when the Rockets are contending for the title, and a fake season when the Spurs are contending for the title. Unless you have evidence to show that you were the exception to the thousands of Rockets fans who had championship fever in January '99, it looks like you changed your perspective on the value of the season after a team you didn't like won.

[Refman]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
My mistake. So the city of Dallas has 6 Pro Football Titles instead of 5. Thanks for pointing that out to everyone.
Also your mistake...under your logic:
1) Houston has had 2 pro football titles instead of the zero you claim.
2) Dallas has lost twice as many teams as Houston.

Nice try...feel free to try again.

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by The Cat
either it's an asterisk, or it's not.

It is.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
It is.

And if it is, you should've said so before the season started. Changing your opinion on the validity of the season after it occurs is just a cheap way of diminishing the championship because a team you didn't like won.

[asw]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
You guys must REALLY hate doing research. In case you didn't know Jerry also played Division I football so he obviously had more than 12 months experience.

Sorry, that wasn't completely what I meant. I was referring to the type of position he supposedly was in. I am assuming you are not trying to correlate playing college football with having any kind of credentials to run an NFL team. Hello! Were you in a hole during this period of time? :confused: Everybody was talking about it in the national media. He had no experience of any kind with football "management". I guess I shouldn't have left that word out... geez... my mistake.

"Jimmy drafted Steve with the sole purpose of playing him and making him look like a legit NFL quarterback, so he could swindle some picks out of another team that was desperate. " LOL! Talk about reaching for an excuse. I suppose you've also been abducted by aliens too huh? LOL! You guys crack me up sometimes. As for the Walker trade, that was pretty brilliant by Jimmy. Like I said Jimmy had as much to do with the Cowboys success as Jerry did, no denying that. The reason Jimmy didn't succeed in Miami is because he didn't have a GM like Jerry backing him up. If he did they would have won multiple titles..

You want to LOL about the scenerio about Steve? That is interesting. What was the end result of them drafting Steve? Did they not showcase Steve for a breif period? Did they not make him look good? Did they not get a ridiculous offer of picks from a team desperate for a quarterback? Did he not suck for that team, hence showing Jimmy did a very good job of making him "look" NFL ready? Didn't ESPN commentators wonder what they heck Jimmy was doing when he took Steve, when he already had Troy? Didn't they take Troy #1? Didn't Jimmy state then that he had tried really hard to recruit Troy to be his quarterback in college? Didn't he make jokes about finally getting his man. If you are willing to credit Jimmy for being brilliant with the Herschel Walker trade... then why is it such a stretch for you to recognize Jimmy manipulated the Steve Walsh situation? I did not see you credit Jerry for the Herschel deal. Didn't the media start calling him Trader Jimmy? I don't recall them using the nickname Trader Jerry! Where were you?:confused: Didn't you witness this stuff too? And you say "an excuse"... An excuse for what? Dude, it really isn't my problem.... it is yours... you are the blindly loyal Jerry fan... not me. I will not be emotionally tortured by his teams as you will. ;)

"Again I can't stress enough how important research is. It's a fact that Jimmy wanted a stud DT with that top pick. It's not coincidence that he draft Maryland with the Cowboys first pick the very next year.

You keep talking about this research stuff... I was experiencing it all as it happened. I watched every draft.... I read most of the major publications about football... I watched most of the tv shows about football. I experienced the time. If you are doing so much "research"... where did you get your "fact" about Jimmy wanting a stud DT instead of Emmit, from? Do some research and show me the facts.

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by The Cat
And if it is, you should've said so before the season started. Changing your opinion on the validity of the season after it occurs is just a cheap way of diminishing the championship because a team you didn't like won.

Thats nice. It's still an ASTERICK CHAMPIONSHIP though.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Thats nice. It's still an ASTERICK CHAMPIONSHIP though.

Nope. Either it's an asterisk championship for everyone, or no one. Since it wasn't for the Rockets, it's not for the Spurs.

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by The Cat
Nope. Either it's an asterisk championship for everyone, or no one. Since it wasn't for the Rockets, it's not for the Spurs.

Thank you my master for thinking on my behalf. :rolleyes:

For me and a lot of of other people it will always be an asterick championship.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Thank you my master for thinking on my behalf. :rolleyes:

For me and a lot of of other people it will always be an asterick championship.

Well, considering I didn't see one Rockets fan call it an asterisk championship before the season, forgive me for not thinking you were the exception among thousands. For you and a lot of people, it will just be a ridiculous excuse since a team you hated won. Waaah waaah waaah.... :rolleyes:

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by The Cat
forgive me for not thinking you were the exception among thousands.

I wasn't. Still an asterick championship though.

For you and a lot of people, it will just be a ridiculous excuse since a team you hated won. Waaah waaah waaah.... :rolleyes:

They won God knows how long ago. The Lakers are the three time defending champions. The LAKERS.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Originally posted by The Cat
forgive me for not thinking you were the exception among thousands.

I wasn't. Still an asterick championship though.

For you and a lot of people, it will just be a ridiculous excuse since a team you hated won. Waaah waaah waaah.... :rolleyes:

They won God knows how long ago. The Lakers are the three time defending champions. The LAKERS.

Nope... if it's not an asterisk championship for the Rockets, it's not for the Spurs. End of discussion.

[R0ckets03]

Originally posted by The Cat
Nope... if it's not an asterisk championship for the Rockets, it's not for the Spurs. End of discussion.

Dude what are you talking about, if its not an asterisk championship for the Rockets? The Rockets did not win that year. The lucky ass Spers did. Fifty game season means asterisk champions. End of discussion.

[Hottoddie]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Dude what are you talking about, if its not an asterisk championship for the Rockets? The Rockets did not win that year. The lucky ass Spers did. Fifty game season means asterisk champions. End of discussion.

Talk about a thread going off topic.

I've ignored this thread, but I feel compelled to chime in on the asterick debate. The asterick only applies to the length of the regular season. It has nothing to do with whether or not a team earned the Championship. Let's ask ourselves some questions.

1) Did the Spurs have an unfair advantage over the other NBA teams that season? Answer: No!

2) Did every team play the same number of regular season games? Answer: Yes!

3) Would the Spurs have made the playoffs if it had been a full 82 game season? Answer: Based on their core talent & subsequent trips to the playoffs, Yes!

4) Did the playoff format change? Answer: NO!

5) Would another team or two have slipped into the playoffs, if the full 82 game season had been played? Answer: It's possible.

6) Would one of those teams have won the Championship? Answer: It's possible, but not likely.

7) Did the Spurs beat the Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rodman, & Rice) in the Conference semifinals? Answer: Yes!

8) Did the Spurs win the Championship?

Answer: A resounding YES!!!

The only thing the asterick stands for, is the length of the regular season. It takes nothing away from the fact that the Spurs earned the Championship! To even suggest that the title was tainted is ridiculous. End of discussion!!!

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Dude what are you talking about, if its not an asterisk championship for the Rockets? The Rockets did not win that year. The lucky ass Spers did. Fifty game season means asterisk champions. End of discussion.

You just said that before the season started and Rockets fans were thinking championship (with the word asterisk never mentioned), you "weren't the exception". If it's such an obvious asterisk, you should've known the moment the NBA announced that it would be a 50 game schedule that the title had less merit. You obviously didn't, and to change your opinion after the season has been played is just a cheap way of not giving the Spurs credit.

[R0ckets03]

Might be a cheap way, but the Spurs will never get any credit from me. An asterisk championship it was, it is and it always will be.

GO LAKERS!

[Truth]

I wish this thread would sink all the way down to last year.

[mav3434]

Good game for the cowboys today. THey really did right the ship, ha ha.

I guess it wasn't all Bryant Westbrooks fault after all

[DrewP]

Originally posted by mav3434
Good game for the cowboys today. THey really did right the ship, ha ha.

I guess it wasn't all Bryant Westbrooks fault after all
YA, and how about those Texans today!

[The Cat]

Originally posted by DrewP
YA, and how about those Texans today!

We're an expansion team, and we were competitive against a good team. You've been rebuilding for years, and you got embarrassed. Not a good comparison.

[The Cat]

Originally posted by R0ckets03
Might be a cheap way, but the Spurs will never get any credit from me. An asterisk championship it was, it is and it always will be.

GO LAKERS!

Ok, then don't ever complain when I call a Lakers championship tainted. Logic can't get any shakier than what you're using for your claim of the Spurs.

[DrewP]

Originally posted by The Cat
We're an expansion team, and we were competitive against a good team. You've been rebuilding for years, and you got embarrassed. Not a good comparison.
There is no comparison here. I was just mentioning how the Texans played today.

[mav3434]

Originally posted by DrewP
There is no comparison here. I was just mentioning how the Texans played today.

Yes, there is no comparison after 19-10. Just a contrast.

[DrewP]

Originally posted by mav3434
Yes, there is no comparison after 19-10. Just a contrast.
I think you might be retarded. You are talking about a different event. I am not comparing them to the Cowboys. The cowboys have nothing to do with this. Get it, retard?

[Rokkit]

Originally posted by DrewP
I think you might be retarded. You are talking about a different event. I am not comparing them to the Cowboys. The cowboys have nothing to do with this. Get it, retard?

Ah, Drew...I wonder if you even realize how entertaining you are to the people who annoy you the most. As just an outside observer here, its easy to see how easy you are to get worked up.

I wish I could offer some assistance...but I don't like the Cowboys. :D Though saying your comments 'have nothing to do with the Cowboys', after letting everyone see how personal you took the loss, is quite a stretch and only gives people more ammunition to work with....

Ah, well. Back to reading these funny threads.

[RocketsPimp]

Originally posted by RC Cola
I sure hope that comes true....

It did and will next week too. Mark my words.

[RocketsPimp]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
The funny thing is that in 4 years the Cowboys may still be the only team the Texans have beaten. Now that's funny!

Sure, keep on believing that. You probably think Emmitt Smith is the best running back of all-time too.

:rolleyes:

[RocketsPimp]

Originally posted by BanginScrew
To tell you the truth, you can beat us all you want. Beating the Texans is not the Cowboys biggest concern. Winning titles is our biggest concern, and last I checked we still have 5 NFL Titles, and Houston has how many? So if beating America's Team is your ultimate goal then by all means beat us every time because seeing Jerry Jones hold up that Lombardi Trophy will make it all better.

Keep that thought in your head because the Cowpokes likely won't be holding up any trophies for the next 10 years at least. They still haven't completed their downhill slide.

[RC Cola]

Originally posted by RocketsPimp
It did and will next week too. Mark my words.
Hey, you cut me off! That's taken out of context. I had to dig deep just to find out what that was.

BTW, although the Rams probably will win, I will go for Dallas once again. Our O has been getting slightly better, and they were without Larry Allen today. (that's right, HE would have made a difference! J/K) Only problem is our D. Didn't play so well against the Eagles and the Rams are probably much better than them, despite the record. But there is always a chance...

You probably think Emmitt Smith is the best running back of all-time too.
Well, by carries he is! And he should get the yards soon, as well. Now Barry Sanders, imo, would have probably better, but he won't get the record. You can say all you want about Emmit having a good O-Line and stuff like that, but they can only help for 5 yards, at the most. He did the rest. JMO.

[DrewP]

Originally posted by Rokkit
Ah, Drew...I wonder if you even realize how entertaining you are to the people who annoy you the most. As just an outside observer here, its easy to see how easy you are to get worked up.

I wish I could offer some assistance...but I don't like the Cowboys. :D Though saying your comments 'have nothing to do with the Cowboys', after letting everyone see how personal you took the loss, is quite a stretch and only gives people more ammunition to work with....

Ah, well. Back to reading these funny threads.
Im not easy to work up. I just get pissed off when these people keep saying the same retarded things over and over and over again. I have to keep repeating myself and thats irritating.

[Holden]

Watching the Texans play football is like watching a retard trying to f*ck. LOL, I know you Texans fans are going to say something stupid too like "duh huh huh, you watch retards f#ck, well i dont so dont say stupid $hit like that

"watching a retard f*ck" is from emmit smiths "comedy roast" put on by shaquille oneal. i saw this on pay per view at a friends house. a comedian got up to "roast" emmit smith, and got on the subject of shaq playing basketball. he said that watching shaq playing basketball was like watching a retard f*ck because he is so uncooridnated. i dont mean to steal your thunder or anything. but obviously you are a cowboys fan, and obviously you watched this. and i was just pointing out you arent original.


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[mav3434]

Originally posted by DrewP
I think you might be retarded. You are talking about a different event. I am not comparing them to the Cowboys. The cowboys have nothing to do with this. Get it, retard?

I think you might be a sore loser cowboy fan who can't admit defeat. You are comparing them to the cowboys; you brought up the Texans loss in two separate threads after people said the Cowboys lost to Philly yesterday.

You attempt to divert attention from the pathetic fortunes of your beloved cowboys by shifting the light onto an expansion team made up of retreads and rookies, which, in case I have failed to mention, BEAT the Cowboys.

Get it?