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windandsea
09-05-2002, 11:32 PM
Long but good interview of Rudy.

http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2002-09-06/1023311720.shtml

1. NBA is easier for Ming than WBC

2. He will be the starting center of Rockets

3. Even if Ming doesn't have any improvement in the future, he has been good enough for #1 pick;

4. Rudy was trilled when he saw Ming penetrated like a SF in the game.

Many things else. Where is Lil?

WNBA
09-05-2002, 11:34 PM
. Even if Ming doesn't have any improvement in the future, he has been good enough for #1 pick;


ohh, too much hype here. by Rudy?

pippendagimp
09-05-2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by windandsea

2. He will be the starting center of Rockets




Wow :eek: :D

WNBA
09-05-2002, 11:37 PM
yeah, Starting center? so sure? have to wow!

Houstone
09-05-2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by windandsea
2. He will be the starting center of Rockets

I really like that.:)

RocksMillenium
09-05-2002, 11:38 PM
On a side note: All of you people who said that Ming's accomplishments in the World Championships didn't mean anything because it was against a bunch of stiffs from overseas, well we just got our @sses whipped in that tournament, and our frontline got butchered so I think that speaks highly of Ming, who finished the tourney with an average of 19 ppg and 7 rpg and 2 bpg.

harumph
09-05-2002, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by windandsea
Long but good interview of Rudy.

http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2002-09-06/1023311720.shtml

1. NBA is easier for Ming than WBC

2. He will be the starting center of Rockets

3. Even if Ming doesn't have any improvement in the future, he has been good enough for #1 pick;

4. Rudy was trilled when he saw Ming penetrated like a SF in the game.

Many things else. Where is Lil?

Easy is also excellent at translations :)

a question about the second (2nd) point - is the quote along the lines "i see him becoming the starting centre of the rockets..." or was the implication that he will start at the beginning of the season (as i take it to be as written)?

I'm "itching" to read the translation :D

WNBA
09-05-2002, 11:41 PM
If the words were really came out of Rudy, he'd fallen love with Ming too much..........

Rudy and someone from Bulls all agree that yao doesn't need much strength. his over strong legs made him hard to jump....

......:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Stevie Francis
09-05-2002, 11:42 PM
same her ei wish i could read the article in english. Man i knew ming would start. He is just too good rudy loves him. Just like Francis.

windandsea
09-05-2002, 11:44 PM
Rudy: (QUOTE)

"At Houston, we will not give Ming any pressure or require him to hand out a certain stats. Absolutely, he will be our starter. But we will not force him to do anything. I want him to decide how many balls he needs to be feeded in the game by himself. When a 7'5" center asks ball at the post, nobody will not give to him. We have so many good players at the outside......"

RocksMillenium
09-05-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by windandsea
Rudy: (QUOTE)

"At Houston, we will not give Ming any pressure or require him to hand out a certain stats. Absolutely, he will be our starter. But we will not force him to do anything. I want him to decide how many balls he needs to be feeded in the game by himself. When a 7'5" center asks ball at the post, nobody will not give to him. We have so many good players at the outside......"

Rudy has a history of starting rookies in our weakest positions. We didn't have a quality PG or SG in 1999 and he started Cat and Dickerson. Cato isn't dependable so Yao should start.

Achebe
09-05-2002, 11:56 PM
windandsea, while I agree with the tone of the post (it's 'telling me things I already know' :))... I have to wonder...

does the chinese media just make stuff up? I am confused that we have to send Rudy's words all the way to China and back to read them. Why doesn't Rudy say these things to Houston media? If he says these things to Houston media, why aren't these words published?

Is Rudy just hyping Ming to the Chinese? Does Rudy have to be wary of these words in a verifiable medium? are the reporters at the chronicle just lazy?

michecon
09-06-2002, 12:06 AM
Wow. Rudy said a ton of things in the artical. It's very good and informative if they are all straight out of Rudy's mouth. That reporter is legit. But always remember you can't put too much into detailed words when quotes are translated back and forth btw languages.

windandsea
09-06-2002, 12:09 AM
I have translated over ten articles of this reporter on this forum. The latest one is Stave and Eric and dog one, which was translated by Lil.;)

harumph
09-06-2002, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by windandsea
Rudy: (QUOTE)

"At Houston, we will not give Ming any pressure or require him to hand out a certain stats. Absolutely, he will be our starter. But we will not force him to do anything. I want him to decide how many balls he needs to be feeded in the game by himself. When a 7'5" center asks ball at the post, nobody will not give to him. We have so many good players at the outside......"

Thank you for clearing that up (i think ;)). Sounds like he's our boy from starting tip off... i so hope this isn't just RT blowing smoke to Yao's local press....

declan32001
09-06-2002, 12:30 AM
Wind and Sea, thank you for your knowledge, your many posts, links and always valuable information. Don't worry about translations. Understand, we in Texas speak a little differently than most Americans. Those of us in Houston are still Texans, no matter where we are from. As the 4th largest city in the U.S., it's a blessing Yao's coming here. He'll have far less pressure than in NY, LA or Chicago. The thing I'm proudest about Houston is that it's a huge city that's friendly. Don't feel you're an outsider on this forum, and don't feel your translations are sub-par. You've been invaluable to hoopheads on this BB. And your humility defies any impression I have of your knowledge or age, but your intelligence seems pretty clear. If you're ever in Houston let us know. We owe you, and we're not like our government either. No one is.

Nolen
09-06-2002, 12:38 AM
Man, where's HP? He needs to see this.

I like his quote saying that even if Yao didn't improve, he'd still be worth the #1. He's good now.

aznlincolnpark
09-06-2002, 12:44 AM
That is good to know yao worth the #1 pick :D

WinkFan
09-06-2002, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by windandsea

2. He will be the starting center of Rockets



Damn right!! Now we can play 5 on 5 on offense, and maybe even end the layup line on defense.

Sofine81
09-06-2002, 01:11 AM
I hope I dont over step my bounds here, but Windandsea has done excelent work as mentioned by declan32001, could he be made "Clutch Crew" he puts in time translating all that, he desveres someting!

okuseinde
09-06-2002, 04:33 AM
Heypartner once said he would bet with anyone that Yao would start the first home game. I guess he must be feeling pretty good about his chances now.

Lil
09-06-2002, 06:36 AM
Thanks W&S for another great article!
Here's the translation.

http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2002-09-06/1023311720.shtml
Sports Weekly
Special Reporter Yang Yi, reporting from Indianapolis:


Rudy T: Don't worry about Yao Ming's development in the NBA, Happiness always come after the nightmares


The World Championships mustn't have been a pleasant dream for Yao Ming, because here, Yao Ming's joyous laughter could not be heard.

In this dream, everyone had their fun by torturing and ravaging the top pick of the NBA draft. Stuffing his shot, dunking on top of his head, or using double-teams to render him helpless, all served to stimulate the nerves of every opponent standing before Yao Ming. Everyone was worrying about how Yao Ming was going to face even harsher challenges in the NBA. But the one person who remained worry-free (sleeping tight) was a Houstonian. After witnessing Yao Ming and the Chinese NT embarrassingly lose one match after another, the Rockets' head coach Rudy Tomjanovich said: "I don't worry about his development in the NBA one single bit, and I guarantee that he's going to feel a whole lot happier than he did here."

NBA Easier than World Championships

When he said that, Yao Ming was trapped in a city of sadness (say, isn't that a Taiwanese movie?) built by Russia's swarming defense. China lost by 27 points to her opponents, and Yao Ming only shot 6 times for 13 points. In the fourth period, he attempted an mean dunk, only to have #6 Kliapa(?) viciously throw him from mid-air onto the ground, drawing gasps throughout the arena. But this situation will not reappear after October. "He received too much attention here, too much weight on his shoulders. Every team was gunning for (focusing their defense on) him," Rudy said. "But in Houston, on the perimeter, we have Steve (Francis) and Cuttino (Mobley), if any team focused their defense on Yao Ming, then they'll lose for sure. So to Yao, the NBA will probably turn out to be easier than the World Championships."

After facing everybody's expectations during the tournament, Yao Ming will find it [the NBA] relaxing. Rudy said "In Houston, we won't give Yao Ming any pressure or ask him to achieve a certain set of statistics every game. Undoubtedly, he will be one of our chief starters (chief sources of power amongst the starters), but we won't force him to do things. I want to let him decide for himself how many times a game he wants the ball. You've got to understand that when a 7'5" center asks for the ball in the paint, nobody's going to refuse him. Furthermore, we've got so many talented players on the perimeter [backing him up]. I know that Yao Ming will need to adjust to the NBA. But even Hakeem Olajuwan had some fatal weaknesses in the beginning, but we didn't let his weaknesses get exposed. We only let him develop and play to his strengths and specialties, multiplying his confidence, and finally let him become a superstar. It will be the same with Yao Ming."

His Value is Sufficient

Maybe we are still discussing what sort experiences and training Yao Ming will need to undergo in the NBA to become a real star, behooving his vaunted status as the #1 draft pick. But Rudy doesn't worry about this one bit. After seeing Yao Ming use his pretty hook shot [OH MY GOD! :D ] to hit 8 out of 8 shots during the New Zealand match, Rudy said "We feel that even if Yao Ming doesn't improve at all in the future, we still would have gotten sufficient value from choosing him at #1. There are a lot of things which cannot be taught, like his height, his hands, and his will/determination. But his potential is truly amazing, and he still has a lot of room to improve. In the bottom half of that match against America, he actualy penetrated/slashed on one occasion like a small forward. A 7'5" small forward... I can't even begin to describe my feelings at the time."

In Rudy's opinion, Yao Ming doesn't even need to do too much of the weight training he doesn't really enjoy. "He doesn't need to train that much, and it's impossible for him to become a Batere-type of center." Rudy said "Presently, Yao Ming's lower body strength is already exceedingly strong, which might possibly cause him to lose his jumping ability and speed. When he went to the Chicago tryouts, the trainers on the Bulls had already told him this. He's upper body doesn't need such sustained training either. He just needs to increase the strength of his shoulders and back. The thing he needs to work on most is to speed up his ball release, so that he can quickly jump and shoot over the heads of his defenders before they can double-team."

The head of the scouting department LinChi (Lynch?) said "We hope that Yao Ming can meld into the American society as quickly as possible. He doesn't have the temper and problems/bad habits of typical American stars right now. He is so friendly and easy to get along with, he is going to be the happiest Chinese in Houston."

from Sports Weekly

---

i've gotta say this Yang Yi reporter is DAMN GOOD!

windandsea
09-06-2002, 07:50 AM
Lil, thank you, thank you thank you.

This is another article of Yang Yi. Hope you enjoy it.:)

http://sports.tom.com/Archive/1019/2053/2002/8/24-19877.html

Relativist
09-06-2002, 08:08 AM
Thanks Lil, W&S. You guys are the best.

I'm short on time, and skimmed Lil's translation quickly. Where's the bit about him starting? Or is that the line about him being the "chief presence in the frontcourt."

Rudy's comments about the guards not refusing him the ball seem to support that other article of Rudy being critical (or rather, not completely supportive) of the Chinese NT coach. I think that's being blown up a bit, but it certainly seems that Rudy hasn't been completely diplomatically neutral. I'm not saying he should be; it's just an observation.

What do you guys think about Rudy's comments about weight training (or lack thereof?) Do you agree with Rudy that back and shoulder strength is all Yao really needs to work on or not?

I'm getting more and more excited. Wish I had a time machine so I could jump a couple months into the future.

BTW Lil, thanks so much for your reply regarding food in Taiwan. I look forward to trying out your suggestions after the typhoon here passes! (It's not so bad; otherwise I wouldn't be online.)

windandsea
09-06-2002, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Relativist
Thanks Lil, W&S. You guys are the best.

Where's the bit about him starting? Or is that the line about him being the "chief presence in the frontcourt."



This time, I think my translation is closer. Rudy said "starting" here. :p

windandsea
09-06-2002, 08:53 AM
Lil, here is Yang Yi's column.

http://sports.tom.com/zhuanlan/yangyi/

http://sports.tom.com/images/zhuanti/yi_b.jpg

One of my favorite reporters.

Lil
09-06-2002, 09:06 AM
You're the man, W&S! This article is a celebratory piece. I'm sure all Rockets fans will enjoy it... I'm personnally gonna take a break. These translations go fast, but they sure are tiring... ;)

http://sports.tom.com/Archive/1019/2053/2002/8/24-19877.html
Source: Tom
Special Submission from Yang Yi:

PERSONALITY/CHARACTER DETERMINED HIS DESTINY
YANG YI: GREATNESS IS NOT MADE FROM JUST BASKETBALL SKILLS ALONE
8/24/02

With his first match after stepping on American soil, the #1 pick Yao Ming began to demonstrate his amazing basketball skills to the Basketball Kingdom (i.e. USA). But his greatness isn't merely this. 13pt 11reb 6blks 3ast 3stls in 34 minutes, is but a footnote to his god-given gifts (talent/potential).

Americans will certainly not forget Yao Ming's prettiest shot in this game. In his last 2minutes on the court, with 5min36sec left in the 3rd period, Yao Ming stepped up to the free throw line, looking as if he was going to complete a pick-and-roll with Hu Wei-Dong. Hu passed to Yao and immediately sped toward to baseline on the left wing. Yao Ming made as if to dish back to Hu, and Ben Wallace reached out to attempt to intercept it. All of a sudden, Yao Ming pulled the ball back in, and pulled up to swish the 12-footer. Countless fans raised their arms, because they and Ben Wallace were both caught in utter amazement.

Yao Ming pumped his right fist. I know: he liked to score this way.
He like to have this sort of exhiliration/euphoria and enjoyment after each made shot. This isn't simply the way a 7'5" Chinese center scores, and it doesn't merely mean that this boy can make an accurate jump shot like Rik Smits --- this is scoring wizardry. Of all the centers in the past 20 years, perhaps only Olajuwan had this type of hands and awareness. [dunno how to translate this, but probably more like: shooting touch, court intuition, and inspired basketball finesse], in a certain sense, Oakland Auditorium demonstrated to Americans for the first time, Yao Ming's genius and future direction.

Yao Ming grabs every opportunity to announce to the NBA just how extraordinary he is. He diligently handles each ball, and earns respect from each ball. He digilently handles each question he faces from American reporters, to let each question reveal more of the true Yao Ming. He is always trying different tones of voice and different approachs to answer each question, but his face is always filled with smiles. There are no questions which makes him feel embarrassed or at a loss. When "How's your English"-type of questions appear, Yao Ming says "Right now, I can't speak English as much as I like (at will), but I will try hard to learn. I'm sure I'll be able to fire my translators very soon." After saying that, he pointed to Xia Song, who had just translated it, and easily won over everything amidst the laughter.

I don't want to repeat here every answer which Yao Ming gives in the post-game press conferences, because most of these questions have no real meaning to Chinese reporters or fans. [They've already heard it all I guess...] But I want to tell you a fact --- within the 15 minutes of the Q&A sesson, he made the scores of assembled American reporters burst out in gleeful laughter 7 times. In the mind of the American press, Yao Ming's image is gradually filling out. He is no longer just a tall guy from the Far East. He is becoming a healthy, intelligent, open-minded, hard-working, humorous Chinese boy. He is in the process of winning the attention and adoration of American media. This night, every American team member is expressing their surprise at Yao's performance. Finley even said that "Yao was really eye-opening". But what I want to say most is that, the surprise which met the American reporters was no less than their team members. And their surprise wasn't basketball skills alone, but personality.

Since last year, I've come to the US several times. And every time, Americans have asked me the situation with Yao Ming. But more often than not, it was doubt and worry. They were afraid that Yao Ming's vaunted reputation will be exposed as a sham. They were even more concerned that Yao will be unable to withstand the pressure of being the #1 pick like Kwame Brown. I kept telling Americans, barring any accidents, Yao Ming will certainly become a superstar. The overall level/standard/quality of Chinese basketball reporting may not yet match American reporters, but Chinese reporters obviously have had a head start in understanding Yao Ming. Yao Ming is absolutely fearless in the face of pressure. He dares to assume responsibility for anything at any time. He dares to adopt a proactive mentality and his smile to face everything. What really decides whether Yao Ming can build his own dynasty in the next 5 to 10 years, isn't how many points or rebounds he can grab today, but his tremendous amount of heart. There is a saying that is appropriate here ---"Personality/Character determines destiny".

And so, we saw the performance at the Oakland Arena on the night of the 22nd. He can make his jump shot with ease over the heads of Antonio Davis and Ben Wallace, forcing his opponents to look on with such helplessness. Even when a frustrated Wallace fell down on him like a boulder, he only smiled: "I hope he didn't fall down too hard". During every break, the Golden State Warriors would constantly flash advertisements for next seasons' tickets on the big screen. The ad goes... "Got Yao?" The Rockets are coming to play two away games here, so whoever wants to see Yao Ming, had better buy tickets fast.

The people who "gets" Yao, to look on and admire him, certainly won't be just the Golden State's Chinese fans.

(Editor: Sun&Moon)

Lil
09-06-2002, 09:09 AM
sorry about that guys!

W&S's absolutely right. I mistranslated one term:

"Starting" for "Front Court"

Misread the word...
:o
my substandard simplified chinese reading skills exposed!

Have just gone to correct it!

Let me know if you spot any other errors!
:p

Relativist, enjoy the food! Taiwan will always be where my heart is.

And certainly my appetite wished it never left...

Lil
09-06-2002, 09:19 AM
yeah this Yang Yi fellow...
his depth of analysis, understanding of the game, mastery of words (esp. for a sports journalist), attentiveness to getting first-hand information (watching the games), ample use of direct quotes from the right guys every time, and ability to grasp the big picture seems to set him apart from the others i've read on this board. the kid's got a bright future ahead of him.

and coupled with W&S, makes CCnet probably the best English Chinese NT team / Yao Ming site on the web...
:)

heypartner
09-06-2002, 10:06 AM
<blockQUOTE>Originally posted by Nolen
Man, where's HP? He needs to see this.</blockQUOTE> No...Cato is the starter!
Cato is the starter.
Ming hasn't even signed, yet. Bet me.

ROXTXIA
09-06-2002, 10:15 AM
This thread is quite awesome, thank you. Obviously we'll be reading Yan Yi's stories for, oh, say, the next 12 to 15 years?

But the article about Rudy is really something. "[Ming] received too much attention [at the WC], too much weight on his shoulders. Every team was gunning for (focusing their defense on) him," Rudy said. "But in Houston, on the perimeter, we have Steve (Francis) and Cuttino (Mobley), if any team focused their defense on Yao Ming, then they'll lose for sure." Oh, yeah!

Trader_Jorge
09-06-2002, 10:38 AM
I just find it amusing that Cat Mobley, one of the toughest street ballers from one of the toughest cities (Philadelphia) is going to be an idol to millions of Chinese fans. I'm not sure why I find this humorous, but I do.

HotRocket
09-06-2002, 12:03 PM
Now that Ming is going to be starting for the Rockets for sure, let's just take a look at the starting line-up...

C - Yao Ming
PF - Mo Taylor
SF - Glen Rice
SG - Cuttino Mobley
PG - Steve Francis

Key Subs:
Griffin
Thomas
Moochie

That being said, I think this team has the perfect mix of veteran leadership, youth, and energy to make it to the playoffs. As long as we try to keep the team and chemistry together, there is no doubt in my mind that we will be a 7th seed or better.

moomoo
09-06-2002, 02:11 PM
Yay! No More Cato!

Thanks for the good news. You're the man! (http://www.yourethemannowdog.com/)

(Turn up your volume to enjoy this link) :p

RocketsPimp
09-06-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by HotRocket
Now that Ming is going to be starting for the Rockets for sure, let's just take a look at the starting line-up...


C'mon people...wake up. We're getting this from the Chinese media that is know to twist people's words. Rudy is never that blunt about his players like he is in this article. Ming hasn't even had any contact with his soon to be teammates, so why would Rudy make such a ridiculous statement basically banishing Cato to the bench without giving him a chance?? Rudy would never do that to one of his players. Also, like Achebe said, why hasn't this surfaced in the US?

Sorry, but I'm not buying this entirely. If these are Rudy's quotes then they have been seriously manipulated for the Chinese population IMO.

Lil
09-06-2002, 03:38 PM
i dunno about that rocketspimp.
this reporter seems to be pretty professional and reliable. he has nothing to gain by sugar-coating or exaggerating Yao's developments. if anything, bad news is a hell of a lot newsworthier than good news...

and Rudy has been saying a lot of things recently to the chinese press over in indianapolis, to which unfortunately, our beloved houston chronicles sports columnists haven't been paying much attention.

i wouldn't bet your house on cato being our starting center come october...

edc
09-06-2002, 03:54 PM
Absolutely, he will be our starter.


I think people are reading a little bit too much into that quote. Assuming it survived the translation wars anywhere near intact, all it says is that Ming will be starting for the Houston Rockets AT SOME POINT. The context of the question ("Will Yao Ming ever be skilled enough to start in the NBA?" or "Will Yao Ming start this season?" or "Will Yao Ming be ready to start for you opening night?") make all the difference in the world.

IMHO, it is a bit optimistic to expect him to come off the Asian games in Mid-October, join the Rockets halfway through training camp, and then be ready to start two weeks later.

Jeff
09-06-2002, 04:15 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would think Yao wouldn't be in line to start right away even if he is a rookie. We don't have any significant player in that position right now, so when you bring in a #1 draft pick, nevermind one that has become such an intriguing choice because of his background and country of origin, you play him.

It is tantamount to David Carr. Sure, they COULD have brought in a capable veteran and let Carr study on the sidelines, but it was the first pick in the history of the franchise. You lay it on him and see what happens.

Same thing for Yao.

pasox2
09-06-2002, 04:24 PM
I'm with Jeff. Why wouldn't you start the player millions want to see? He's the freakin' # 1 pick! You have to start him. It would be an international embarrassment to sit him on the bench behind frickin KELVIN CATO. Geez. You want to just throw all that ready-made market money in the toilet!?? For what ??! What "valuable lesson" could you possibly send that way?

What's the bet? User names? Heypartner works for me on the dance board, anyway ;).

toughguy
09-06-2002, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by edc
IMHO, it is a bit optimistic to expect him to come off the Asian games in Mid-October, join the Rockets halfway through training camp, and then be ready to start two weeks later.

All five USA players started in the WC games with TWO weeks of practice. ;)

Easy
09-06-2002, 04:54 PM
Lil, excellent translation. I didn't have time until now to read the article. You did a great great job!:)

I am not familiar with basketball terminology in Chinese. So in that Rudy article, "sien fa ju li" might just mean "starter" as w&s said.

Another minor thing: There are a lot of things which cannot be taught, like his height, his hands, and his will/determination. The last word "will/determination" ("yi shi") probably meant "sense" (i.e. basketball sense/IQ). JMO

edc
09-06-2002, 06:24 PM
All five USA players started in the WC games with TWO weeks of practice.


...and you see where that got us ;)

The difference between Carr and Yao Ming is that the quarterback not only was around for all of training camp, but also for all of the minicamps. Carr has been working daily with the Texans since May.

I'm in agreement that something is terribly wrong if Yao Ming is not starting come the first of next year (ie: two months into the season). I think he may well be ready to be finishing games considerably earlier than that. What is in question for me is whether he will know enough of the system and his teammates to be starting fourteen days after he hits town.

aznlincolnpark
09-06-2002, 07:16 PM
yao will start the tip off :D

I got a feeling dat Rudy T loves yao ming a little more than other Rox players :p Rudy T will use and work with yao ming more.....

toughguy
09-06-2002, 07:47 PM
I don't know if Ming will start from day one. But here are some reasons that Ming should start.

1) Starting Ming, doesn't mean that he will play a lot of minutes. He probably won't last long on the court with his current stamina. Starting him will give him more time to rest in between substitutions, which will give him more energy when he returns to the court. He won't have to lump all his on-court time in a short period, but instead play in spurts with his time spread out in 48 minutes.

2) Even at this point, Ming is far better than Cato, especially on offense. Heck, Ming is a bigger defensive presence than Cato.

3) He's the number 1 pick!

4) Re-read #1 to #3 again!

Panda
09-06-2002, 07:55 PM
Yao is ready to start gamewise, but factor in his cultural/environment/language/social adjustment and possible initial discomfort, he should have an adjustment period, say one or two months before being thrown into fire. Even if he doesn't start, he can still get 20+ minutes a game.

Lil
09-06-2002, 09:15 PM
easy's totally right. instead of will/determination, yi-shi should be translated awareness/sense (basketball).

david stern will probably be begging and pleading with RT and CD to start yao the first day... and i've got a feeling that soon it will be the rockets instead of the t-wolves playing the first game of the season overseas....

Rudyball
09-06-2002, 09:39 PM
I don't agree w/ the Carr comparison since they chose Carr because he had experience in the offense they wanted to run.

Ming has experience but not in the Rockets offense. He will have to take the spot from Cato. that is a Rudy rule, but they have been feeding him info on their off and def sets so maybe he will be able to retain enough to take over the starting spot before November is up. it would have helped if he was available for the start of camp.

Cato will start the season at center but I don't believe it will be long before Ming starts. I wouldn't leave a 7'6" center on the bench for the tip-off if nothing else!

leebigez
09-06-2002, 09:52 PM
If the Rockets had a decent player at his position, then i could understand not starting him, but we're talking about Cato. Its pretty much the same when the choice was Mobley,Drew or Francis. It was clear he was a better pg prospect than either one of those guys, so why waste time fooling yourself. The reason Baron came off the bench his first yr was because Wesley was more than adequate at the pg spot. When you draft high in the nba and the guy can't crack your lineup, then you probably made the wrong choice. Comparing a qb to a nba player is much different. Ming should start,let him take his lumps and give and let Cato use his energy to come off the bench.

HoRockets
09-06-2002, 09:55 PM
I feel it would be more prudent to begin the season with Yao coming off the bench at least for the first month or so until he gets his feet wet and learns the system better. What's the difference anyways if he comes in 5 minutes after tip-off. Everyone knows he doesn't have the stamina to start and finish a game. But if I had to choose, to have him finish is much more important than to have him start. In time, he'll do both and I'm sure that it will be soon enough.

toughguy
09-06-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by HoRockets
I feel it would be more prudent to begin the season with Yao coming off the bench at least for the first month or so until he gets his feet wet and learns the system better. What's the difference anyways if he comes in 5 minutes after tip-off. Everyone knows he doesn't have the stamina to start and finish a game. But if I had to choose, to have him finish is much more important than to have him start. In time, he'll do both and I'm sure that it will be soon enough.

I think we should have Ming start AND finish the game for the reason I stated in my earlier post(Reason #1 a few post above this one).

I don't see any good reasons to start Cato but I do see why we should start Ming.

because24
09-06-2002, 10:52 PM
I hope Yao start, but if he don't it wouldn't be to much of a surprise. The main reason, is that he doesn't know the system. I rather him take a couple of months to learn the system, than go out there and cause turn-overs and mis-communications.

DieHard Rocket
09-06-2002, 11:33 PM
I'd expect Yao to start (maybe because I'll be at the game ;)), as long as he's been with the team and in camp a few days. Has there been any time period set when he is expected to be in camp? I find it hard to believe that Rudy will sit the #1 pick of this magnitude and hype in favor of Cato.

With the Mo Taylor 5 game suspension, I'd expect the lineup would be:
C: Yao
PF: Griffin
SF: Rice
SG: Cat
PG: Steve

But I don't think they will continue sitting Mo down, going with the whole not losing your starting spot to injury thing...so, in the long run, this should be the lineup:
C: Yao
PF: Taylor
SF: Griffin
SG: Cat
PG: Steve

Looking at the talent on that starting line, and then the depth with Mooch/Rice/Boki/KT/Cato this should be a fun team to watch.