Aggie Football

[Greg#3]

I'm meeting with the A&M SID on Wednesday to try and get a job with the athletic department. Does anybody have any idea what kind of jobs are avaliable for students? Surely someone worked for an SID's office while in college, so I was wondering if anyone could give me some info on what to expect. Thanks.

Now, on to the sports talk.............

A&M is kicking some A$$ in recruiting this summer!!!!!!

12 recruits for '03 + Anthony Wright has now signed with A&M to play for them next year. He had signed with Colorado but his official visit to CU happened the same weekend as the "wild party" and he wouldn't talk about the incident at school. I just read that he has signed with A&M, after visiting A&M and Oklahoma in June. I saw him June 20 but of course he didn't say a word about not going to Colorado. In fact, I asked him when he was leaving for Boulder and he replied, "I'm not sure yet." I should have realized something was up because he would have known by then when he had to report. Anyways, I'm mucho happy that he's going to Aggieland because he is an awesome WR and might play next year, given the current state of condition for the A&M receivers.

Back to the class of '03, RC, love him or hate him, has done a fantastic job of early recruiting and the results are really paying off. Of the 12 recruits, 9 are on Dave Campbell's "Super Teams", including high school phenom, Drew Tate.

Maybe's it the great recruiting job RC has done, or maybe it's because Anthony is now going to A&M, or maybe it's just becasue I'm going up to College Station tomorrow, but whatever the reason is, I'm really excited about the future of Aggie football.

[Smokey]

aggys are so weak!

[Puedlfor]

8-4 forever.

Well, except for the '03 season, when the bottom falls out.

P.S. : Last year's recruiting started out much the same way - with McNeal and Riley - and we saw how that class collapsed on itself with something like 8-10 decommitments.

[Greg#3]

Mark my words...

A&M will beat Virginia Tech, Nebraska, Texas, or Oklahoma this year. Actually, A&M will beat V-Tech or Nebraska this year, maybe even both. V-Tech and Nebraska will both have inexperienced QBs and A&M's defense will live up to their name of the "Wrecking Crew" with Penright, Davis, Gamble, and Warren.

As for last year's decommintments, we lost JD Runnels (Oklahoma FB), Lawrence Vickers (committed back to CO, would have been nice), Bob Morton (Notre Dame, big time loss), Cody Douglas(Tennessee, don't care), Michael Brisco (FS - Texas Tech, ehhh), and Darrin Johnson (0T- SMU, saved an open scholarship for Anthony). If we lose 6 commitments this year, I'll be ticked!

[rocketteen]

If u go to this site: http://new.texags.com/main/recruiting.main.asp

This site by B. Liucci is very good...too bad it's free for one more day though; expires Monday. So, take a gander and see the Aggies best early recruiting class that I can remember. Too bad though that if all of these studs stay committed, I will have already graduated and won't be able to see them as well as all the crappy construction turn into nice facilities. Oh well, there is always season tickets.

[Joe Joe]

Originally posted by Greg#3
A&M's defense will live up to their name of the "Wrecking Crew" with Penright, Davis, Gamble, and Warren.

Fyi.....UT's defense back in the day (1950's) was given the moniker before A&M. A&M got it as a handdown from big brother to little brother.

[kidrock8]

A&M's class so far has quantity more than quality, something that isn't good with 85 scholarship limits...

I'm not an A&M hater, but objectively speaking, I don't see such a bright future for the Ags. They are clearly only 3rd in the recruiting pecking order in TX, behind UT and OU, in that order. A&M would be in pretty good shape, if they were 2nd fiddle behind UT, but OU's emergence is what might hurt A&M more than anything. Even more than UT's return to prominence.

A&M needs to hire a young, fiery, coach. I hate the guy, but a guy like Neuheisel, who can be a player's best friend, is the type of guy A&M needs to be able to recruit. Mack is able to recruit because he has a very down to earth personality (fake or not), while Stoops can recruit because he has 1 national title to his credit to along with the fact that he has as much energy as any coach.

One other problem with A&M recruiting, is that they can't rely on A&M family tradition to help them. Eric Winston from last year comes to mind. There are several examples that I have forgotten, of A&M leans, turning into UT commits.

Also, last year, something like 10+ early commits of A&M ended up ditching A&M, and commiting to other schools. Which makes the early commitments a negative instead of a positive, as A&M recruited part of the time with a false sense of security.

Did that Riley guy from last year make grades?

One thing I will say is that Reggie McNeal will be a bad ass.

[Smokey]

Things will get really interesting when/if the Ags get a new coach who will challenge Stoops and Brown. I've heard Bob Davie mentioned but I don't know if he can do it. As long as RC is coaching, the Ags won't be in the same league as Texas and OU. Yall can put down your crack pipes.

[Refman]

As much as I hate to say it, R.C. generally has a really good recruiting class but can't do anything with the talent once he gets it. Remember a few years back when A&M was preseason ranked #3 and promptly got punked by Colorado?

I don't mean to be negative, but I've seen way too much of this since I arrived in College Station 10 years ago.

[kidrock8]

One thing to consider with RC...

Has there ever been a different college program that was ever rumored to be interested in RC, since he's been at A&M?

[EddieWasSnubbed]

Is Reggie Mcneil gonna start? btw, Vincent Young will be betterwhen he gets to start.

[Smokey]

Dave Elmendork got fired today.

[Refman]

Has there ever been a different college program that was ever rumored to be interested in RC, since he's been at A&M?

How much of that is lack of interest and how much of that is not even bothering because it's common knowledge that RC is not available?

[Smokey]

KEEP RC!

[Greg#3]

I THINK they will redshirt McNeal and let him learn the QB position for a year and then he will have to compete with Dustin Long and a Drew Tate that is graduating early so play in spring ball. If Tate proves capable of playing QB, then A&M will move McNeal to WR, along with Terrence Murphy, L'Tydrick Riley, Anthony Wright, and Tyrell Gatewood ('03) and that would be one heck of a passing game.

[Refman]

McNeal is a bona-fide stud QB. If RC moves him to WR, or anywhere else, he should not only be fired but hanged publicly.

[MadMax]

Originally posted by Refman
McNeal is a bona-fide stud QB. If RC moves him to WR, or anywhere else, he should not only be fired but hanged publicly.

it won't matter anyway...you know you can't match up against my powerful Baylor Bears!! :D

[Smokey]

Go Bears!

[kidrock8]

Anthony Wright=Rapist

[ESource]

Originally posted by Joe Joe


Fyi.....UT's defense back in the day (1950's) was given the moniker before A&M. A&M got it as a handdown from big brother to little brother.
Nice pick-up........ :D

[ESource]

Originally posted by Smokey
Young will be better cause UT is stacked.
No. Young will be better becuz he was the BEST QB in the nation coming out of high school..... :cool:

[ESource]

Originally posted by Greg#3
Maybe's it the great recruiting job RC has done, or maybe it's because Anthony is now going to A&M, or maybe it's just becasue I'm going up to College Station tomorrow, but whatever the reason is, I'm really excited about the future of Aggie football.
Whoa! there "little brother", let's NOT get too carried away........ :rolleyes:

[Smokey]

So when was the last time a "little brother" was older than "big brother"?

[junglerules]

Originally posted by Refman
McNeal is a bona-fide stud QB. If RC moves him to WR, or anywhere else, he should not only be fired but hanged publicly.


I hate the Ags, but i totally agree, Refman. I saw McNeal play in that game vs Westlake, i think, and he was a pimp. Both by his running ability and his passing game, he dominated that game, on a gimpy ankle, too! WOW!:eek:

[Bogey]

"No. Young will be better becuz he was the BEST QB in the nation coming out of high school..... " ESource

Yeah, the BEST QB in the nation whose team got beat by a QB that A&M is converting to WR. Anybody who watched the Title Game and saw McNeal dominate on a bad ankle knows he's a winner and was the BEST QB in High School last year. :p

[ESource]

Originally posted by Bogey
Yeah, the BEST QB in the nation whose team got beat by a QB that A&M is converting to WR.

Then why is RC converting him to WR if he's that good at QB? The Aggies, gotta love 'em........ :rolleyes:

[RNuss02]

First of all, McNeal will NOT be anything but a bonified stud as our starting QB. Mark my words. Second, many of you are correct that our Offense last year was just pitiful. Now I can't make excuses b/c it was dreadful to watch, but there were several determining factors that do not have a thing to do our talent level. #1) is our O-line. We have a young, run-blocking line, not suited to the type of offense that Dino Babers runs. #2) Mark Farris is supremely limited in his arm strength and athleticism. Plus, he's very bad in big situations. This is why Babers has limited our offensive scheme to little draws, screens and playaction, which is very repetetive and predictable and easy for defenses to pick up and stop in its tracks. We rarely passed the ball effectively. The Ags threw downfield maybe 2 or 3 times a game and rarely connected. We never threw any posts, we never got our tight ends involved in the game, we never did crossing routes to recievers in the middle of the field, and we never threw to our backs past the line of scrimmage. This disgusts me b/c we have a pretty good recieving corp (not great, but evryone is pretty good). Take this and add to the equation that we haven't had a 1000 yard rusher in quite a while. This is really bad b/c our whole offense revolves around the run. This...I do not understand b/c Farmer and Joseph seem to have unlimited potential and talent. One of them should be averaging at least a hundred yards a game, for how many plays RC runs. Wasn't Jo Webber supposed to be the superstar back we've desired since McElroy??? What happened to his game??? Plus, like I mentioned before, our O-line is best suited for run-blocking and we had the best center in NCAA the past 4 seasons. Oh yeah, and our running game consists of the draw, stunt, and delay. All up the middle.... how do defenses not read that and dominate on it?! Ask that to RC b/c I really don't see how he thinks we can win with that strategy. Plus, we never had a true field goal kicker last season and it really hurt us b/c it changed the whole scenario when we were in the red zone. It really limited what we could do on 3rd and 4th downs, and RC made some ridiculous calls b/c of it.

So, if you factor in all of these points, it's obvious our offense can't get off of the ground. Babers actually has a very powerful and explosive scheme. We will see a bunch of 4 and 5 reciever sets. We just have to be less predictable, and our running game has to strike fear into the other teams. We definitely have the talent at RB, WR, and now at QB w/ McNeal. McNeal will be the deciding factor, I believe. He can stretch the field w/ his cannon arm/ accuracy, and we can finally reimplement the option, w/ his dominant running. He can also improv w/ his quickness when no one is open....something Farris has never been good at. His skill will definitely allow us to be more than one-dimensional, and allow us to open things up and actually put respectable offensive points on the board.

Think about how good the Ags would be w/ an offense that can average 31 points a game. Add this to our already stifiling defense. This puts us into the elite programs in the country. I honestly believe that once RC and Babers get McNeal and the rest of our young talent on the field, they can formulate an offensive system that could put up quite a bit of points and be very explosive. Just remember that RC is a defensive minded coach. He needs to realize that in today's NCAA, you can't win w/o an explosive offensive attack, hence Miami, T.U., O.U., etc.

Thank you for allowing me to go off. I just had to get some of that crap off my back since the last season.

[ESource]

Originally posted by RNuss02
First of all, McNeal will NOT be anything but a bonified stud as our starting QB. Mark my words. Second, many of you are correct that our Offense last year was just pitiful. Now I can't make excuses b/c it was dreadful to watch, but there were several determining factors that do not have a thing to do our talent level. #1) is our O-line. We have a young, run-blocking line, not suited to the type of offense that Dino Babers runs. #2) Mark Farris is supremely limited in his arm strength and athleticism. Plus, he's very bad in big situations. This is why Babers has limited our offensive scheme to little draws, screens and playaction, which is very repetetive and predictable and easy for defenses to pick up and stop in its tracks. We rarely passed the ball effectively. The Ags threw downfield maybe 2 or 3 times a game and rarely connected. We never threw any posts, we never got our tight ends involved in the game, we never did crossing routes to recievers in the middle of the field, and we never threw to our backs past the line of scrimmage. This disgusts me b/c we have a pretty good recieving corp (not great, but evryone is pretty good). Take this and add to the equation that we haven't had a 1000 yard rusher in quite a while. This is really bad b/c our whole offense revolves around the run. This...I do not understand b/c Farmer and Joseph seem to have unlimited potential and talent. One of them should be averaging at least a hundred yards a game, for how many plays RC runs. Wasn't Jo Webber supposed to be the superstar back we've desired since McElroy??? What happened to his game??? Plus, like I mentioned before, our O-line is best suited for run-blocking and we had the best center in NCAA the past 4 seasons. Oh yeah, and our running game consists of the draw, stunt, and delay. All up the middle.... how do defenses not read that and dominate on it?! Ask that to RC b/c I really don't see how he thinks we can win with that strategy. Plus, we never had a true field goal kicker last season and it really hurt us b/c it changed the whole scenario when we were in the red zone. It really limited what we could do on 3rd and 4th downs, and RC made some ridiculous calls b/c of it.

So, if you factor in all of these points, it's obvious our offense can't get off of the ground. Babers actually has a very powerful and explosive scheme. We will see a bunch of 4 and 5 reciever sets. We just have to be less predictable, and our running game has to strike fear into the other teams. We definitely have the talent at RB, WR, and now at QB w/ McNeal. McNeal will be the deciding factor, I believe. He can stretch the field w/ his cannon arm/ accuracy, and we can finally reimplement the option, w/ his dominant running. He can also improv w/ his quickness when no one is open....something Farris has never been good at. His skill will definitely allow us to be more than one-dimensional, and allow us to open things up and actually put respectable offensive points on the board.

Think about how good the Ags would be w/ an offense that can average 31 points a game. Add this to our already stifiling defense. This puts us into the elite programs in the country. I honestly believe that once RC and Babers get McNeal and the rest of our young talent on the field, they can formulate an offensive system that could put up quite a bit of points and be very explosive. Just remember that RC is a defensive minded coach. He needs to realize that in today's NCAA, you can't win w/o an explosive offensive attack, hence Miami, T.U., O.U., etc.

Thank you for allowing me to go off. I just had to get some of that crap off my back since the last season.
yada, yada, yada.....blah, blah, blah.....excuses, excuses, excuses..... :cool:

[ESource]

Originally posted by Smokey
So when was the last time a "little brother" was older than "big brother"?
"Age ain't nothin' but a number....." :cool:

[DVauthrin]

I've been very nice and not responded to this Aggie thread considering I'm a UT student.

However, first of all, call us UT, not T.U. Or is that too hard for some of you to understand. Some aggies I know do this as well and it's so pathetic.

Secondly,

Get ready to be annihilated in Austin this year. You guys keep the game close at Kyle Field always. Don't ask me how, but I believe it. However, in Austin it's a different story. And I'll be there to personally savor an d enjoy the sweetness of this Victory.

Furthermore,

While Reggie McNeal is good, we one upped you with Vincent Young. Not saying Vince is better, but it isnt like you were the only school to get a top flight QB. Plus the rest of our recruiting class significantly beats yours.

Finally(here's the dagger),

While I love to beat the Aggies, whose whole purpose in school is to best UT(yes, I know about the brainwashing techniques employed in College Station) the Sooners are the bigger rival on the field now and will remain that way as long as R.C. is your head coach.

[Smokey]

nm

[gr8-1]

I'd be willing to bet that McNeal will end up at DB, not WR in 2 years. Not BS'ing, I have a pretty reliable "source."

[ESource]

Originally posted by gr8-1
I'd be willing to bet that McNeal will end up at DB, not WR in 2 years.
The Aggies, how can you NOT love 'em..... :rolleyes:

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by ESource

The Aggies, how can you NOT love 'em..... :rolleyes:

My sarcasm meter is pretty low right now, so I hope you aren't calling me an Ag. I'm a Horn alum. ;):D

As for the DB comment, the internet world is pretty small, so, I won't reveal who my source is. Not saying this is set in stone; let's say RC told a prominent recruit that that's where Reggie may be headed. I'll leave it at that. Maybe RC is selling the snakeoil now? ;)

[Greg#3]

As for the DB comment, the internet world is pretty small, so, I won't reveal who my source is. Not saying this is set in stone; let's say RC told a prominent recruit that that's where Reggie may be headed.

The prominent recruit you speak of is obviously Drew Tate. Who else could it be???

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Greg#3


The prominent recruit you speak of is obviously Drew Tate. Who else could it be???

Don't know Drew at all. You can deduce from that what you want.

[ESource]

Originally posted by gr8-1


My sarcasm meter is pretty low right now, so I hope you aren't calling me an Ag. I'm a Horn alum. ;):D

I'd never do that to a fellow Longhorn! I'm talking about the actual Aggies out there and RC. How could he(RC) even contemplate switching McNeal to any other position besides QB?! What a joke? Like I said before, "the Aggies, how can you NOT love 'em....." :D

[Refman]

I have this source (won't tell ya who it is) who knows this guy who saw RC in a trench coat talking to a recruit in a parking garage...do you by any chance work for the Dallas Morning News? :D

[kidrock8]

McNeal has too much potential at QB, to be played at WR or DB first, without being given a shot at QB.

I've seen both him and Young play, and while Young is the better overall QB, McNeal does have a stronger arm. Not to say that Young doesn't have a cannon himself. They both are pretty equal in terms of running ability. What sets Young apart from McNeal is that Young is much more polished with the short to intermediate passes.

[gr8-1]

Originally posted by Refman
I have this source (won't tell ya who it is) who knows this guy who saw RC in a trench coat talking to a recruit in a parking garage...do you by any chance work for the Dallas Morning News? :D

Does RC have blue bell ice cream or his secretary under that trench coat?

[Refman]

Does RC have blue bell ice cream or his secretary under that trench coat?
I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to say. :D

[Greg#3]

I just saw Tom Lemming's Top 100 list and A&M is the only school with 2 Top 100 recruits, with Jason Jack and Ta Ta Thompson. Of course I do realize that it's still early on and they have awhile to change their monds, but this is a great sign.

I think the new "Football Complex" is a big reason for A&M's success. I got a poster about it Thursday, which states these interestonmg facts about the building:

25000 sq. ft, reading lab., writing, lab., computer lab., 12 study areas, 35 tutor areas for 85 players :eek:, full-time "learning specialist" "life coordinator" and "career counselor", and a "placement director". It also has locker rooms, meeting rooms, a team auditorium, athlete lounge, equipment room, and rehab center. It costs a cool $25 million, all paid for by the Championship Vision capital campaign

[Kim]

Originally posted by Greg#3

25000 sq. ft, reading lab., writing, lab., computer lab., 12 study areas, 35 tutor areas for 85 players :eek:, full-time "learning specialist" "life coordinator" and "career counselor", and a "placement director". It also has locker rooms, meeting rooms, a team auditorium, athlete lounge, equipment room, and rehab center. It costs a cool $25 million, all paid for by the Championship Vision capital campaign

Yes! Yes! Yes!

oh wait....

damnit, I'll be gone by then.:(


As for another matter, I can't believe I have been at CC.Net for so long and not ever checked out this "other" forum. And lo and behold there is a thread about Aggie Football, something that I really don't care about, but know way way way too much about.

As many of y'all who have been here for a while would know, I really think the A&M and UT hating is stupid on both sides. When I chilled in Austin a lot, I had fun hangin with the Texas ballers, smokin weed with Cedric etc. (And yes, Cedric does smoke weed. I'm not stating this as an opinion or making a judgement. The laws are wrong. And I think I have enough cred here to be able to state this as fact. If any admin has a prob with me stating this fact, I'll understand and remove it) But I digress...

Back to Aggie Football. I hope they do well this year. The better they do, the more $ I make scalping tickets. Also, Reggie McNeal will be red shirted. Farris will be the starter. A lot of the guys do not like Farris. Jason Carter should be the QB. He is in tremendous shape and should be ready to take the position after a year of learning on the scout team.

Umm, as for the recievers: they are all super athletes. Jamaar is healthy and is bulk big time. So is TT (damn, i haven't talk to that dude in a while...he's very good guy). TMurph is supposedly going to do well again. Bethel Johnson is supposedly awesome, but I personally cannot stand his loudass mouth and am damn happy that this cockyass muthafukka will be gone after this year. Hopefully he forgets how to play football and John can move up. John Roberson has been working his ass off ever since he came to school; just working hard and learning plays. He is a happy dude and good guy. Deserves to play and wants to badly.

I was going to go into an analysis but realized I am tired of writing and more importantly, I really dont know jack about football. I have a hard time waking up in time for the games. But I do know who is doing what and who plays what and who is going to play what and who hates which coach and who is going to leave and who is staying etc.

So if any of y'all ever want to know stuff like how does so and so feel about so and so's progress or whatever, just tell me and I'll go ask. I use to be able to do the same with UT, but I don't chill in that circle any more.

Gigem Aggies, I guess. I hope they do well this year. I like my friends to do well, but other than that, I really don't give a rat's ass about this deep rooted crazy football mental fans crap here. But at least it's not the stupid ignorance and arrogance that happens too much in Austin (not all of y'all, but a lot). Basketball is the only sport rooted deep in my heart.

[Greg#3]

And yes, Cedric does smoke weed.

That's funny. :D

On Wednesday, I was hanging in the SID's office and I overheard that Bethel Johnson was in the hospital because he got sick and has to be closely monitored due to his spleen. The guys that worked in his office think we'll start 3 WRs this year, probably Bethel, TMurph, and Jamaar.

As for he QB situation, Farris obviously is different from the rest of is teammates, which hurts team chemistry. On one hand, Reggie is a superb athlete with tons of heart that would fit in perfectly as for as team chemistry is concerned. On the other hand, Drew Tate is the most accurate passing QB I've ever seen in Texas high school football and Reggie could certainly play a different position with his speed.

Just look at Drew's stats from last year: 37 TDs and 3 INTs :eek:

[don grahamleone]

Aggie Football will always be good, but never elite. You Aggies should convert to Longhorn fans. It's much easier to cheer your team on. You don't have to sing a fight song about your rival school against non-rival opponents at the University of Texas. There's one reason, ya'll can probably think of some more on your own. Oh wait....

[Bogey]

Esource:
Then why is RC converting him to WR if he's that good at QB? The Aggies, gotta love 'em........

RC is converting HIM to WR b/c we already have Farris as starter right now with McNeal backing him up and probably the best high school QB in the nation right now in Drew Tate coming in during the spring semester.

HIM = Chad Schroeder from Austin Westlake

If you recall, Young couldn't even lead his team (Madison) to the title game. They got beat by Austin Westlake in the Semi's and then McNeal put on a show in the finals.:p

[Refman]

You Aggies should convert to Longhorn fans. It's much easier to cheer your team on. You don't have to sing a fight song about your rival school against non-rival opponents at the University of Texas. There's one reason, ya'll can probably think of some more on your own. Oh wait....
I sure hope that you actually spent time on the UT campus and are not a bandwagoner. But if you really believe this then you know nothing about football in the state of Texas, not to mention pride. :rolleyes:

[Smokey]

Apologize for my weird behavior in this thread. Excuse me.

[ESource]

Originally posted by Bogey
Esource:


RC is converting HIM to WR b/c we already have Farris as starter right now with McNeal backing him up and probably the best high school QB in the nation right now in Drew Tate coming in during the spring semester.


That's why I love RC and the Aggies, McNeal was/is being touted as the BEST QB in the nation last year BUT rather than groom him behind Farris, "let's switch him to WR instead".:eek: And the delusion goes on: "Drew Tate is the best QB in the nation"? :rolleyes: BUT you guys keep thinking that way. Nothing like seeing the Aggies stumble around for several more years........:D

[Bogey]

ESorce, if you follow my logic, I don't think RC is converting McNeal to WR, he is converting Chad Schroeder to WR. Schroeder was the QB for the team that knocked Young out of the State playoffs. By the way, from what I hear, Tate is on pace to become the career passing yardage leader in the state.:D

[ESource]

Originally posted by Bogey
ESorce, if you follow my logic, I don't think RC is converting McNeal to WR, he is converting Chad Schroeder to WR. Schroeder was the QB for the team that knocked Young out of the State playoffs. By the way, from what I hear, Tate is on pace to become the career passing yardage leader in the state.:D
Got ya! But as for Drew Tate, you can't seriously believe he's the "best high school QB" in the nation just becuz he's passed for so many yards, do you? There's a kid from Cali, Kyle Wright or something like that, who's being touted as the best. I don't even think Tate is mentioned on the national level. Definitely on the state level BUT not the national level.....

[Bogey]

Yeah, I just kinda threw that "best high school QB in the nation" part just for effect. I'll be honest, I haven't had a chance to scout many teams (actually any) from around the nation. I just go with what I hear from people around these parts (more than likely with and Aggie bias).:cool:

[Greg#3]

http://studentsports.theinsiders.com/2/54269.html

A&M was given the #1 ranking in the nation, with UT right on their heels at #2.

[RIET]

A$$ies suck and everyone knows it.

Texas will destroy the A$$ies in Austin come November.

[DCkid]

You would think that some of these high school athletes would eventually realize that their chances of playing for the Aggies is a lot better than their chances of playing for the Longhorns. I mean, year after year the Longhorns are either the best or near the best in recruiting. How are they going to be able to get all of these top prospects on the field? It seems like that would be the most enticing thing that RC could use to recruit players. He could say something like, "if you go to UT you're going to have to wait until your senior year, after the three all-american prospects in front of you graduate, before you get any playing time. If you come to A&M you could very well be starting your sophmore year." Maybe that's not the way it works, but it seems like the overflow of talent on the longhorns squad should eventually become a factor in how the recruiting goes.

Anyways, if the Ags turn McNeal into anything else besides a QB, that's going to be the last straw. Actually, the last straw was already reached long ago, but you get the picture. The Aggies finally recruit a player who could come in and change the Aggies offensive scheme (and I use the term <i>scheme</i> very loosely), and they're going to turn him into a defensive player? I'm pretty sure the Aggies don't need any help on defense. Their defense it always top-notch, it's their offense that's the problem. They've been needing a makeover for ten years. The funny thing is, I don't know one Aggie that thinks RC should remain the coach. When a team doesn't seem to be making any progress for a number of years, isn't a coaching change in order?

[ESource]

Originally posted by DCkid
When a team doesn't seem to be making any progress for a number of years, isn't a coaching change in order?
Hell no! Keep RC in place as long as possible.....;) :D

[Refman]

The problem is that the older alums can still remember the days when A&M rarely scored, much less posted a victory. RC runs a clean program and we win more than we lose. I hate that mentality. I have been saying we need a new coach for 8 years. A$$ies suck and everyone knows it.
Great analysis...you are a genius. :rolleyes:

I have been watching A&M football for a long time now and it seem that RC is trying to go away from the dance of an offense he's always run. You know the dance...up the middle, up the middle, up the middle, KICK. I miss the early to mid 1990s when A&M trashed Texas annually.

BEAT THE HELL OUTTA t.u.!!!!!!!

[ESource]

Originally posted by Refman
I have been saying we need a new coach for 8 years.

Pleeeease sign RC to a 10-year extension! Pleeeeeease........ :D :p

[Refman]

Let me tell you how bad most of us hate RC. I was driving my car down Wellborn Rd. in College Station. While stopped at a light, RC crossed the street. My buddy punched me in the stomach for not hitting the gas. :D

[Puedlfor]

If the Aggies fire RC - who are they gonna get who's any better?

[kidrock8]

Originally posted by Puedlfor
If the Aggies fire RC - who are they gonna get who's any better?

Just about anyone would be an upgrade.

A&M would probably have to promote from within, or hire an up and coming coach at a smaller program like a Stanford or something.

Perhaps the Purdue coach, Joe Tiller would be the answer? I would think that A&M is more of a "football school" than Purdue, and money should not be a problem. Also, Tiller has ties to the state of Texas. What the Aggies need is an offensive genius, and that is what Tiller is.

[rocketteen]

Gary Kubiak anyone?

[Refman]

The word that I have heard is that Kubiak turned down a few NFL offers becuase he has basically been promised to be RC's successor. He'd be one hell of an upgrade.

[ESource]

Originally posted by rocketteen
Gary Kubiak anyone?
That would be too smart of a move by the Aggies........:D

[Refman]

As opposed to the long list of smart moves by the Texas "we haven't won a national championship since hiring you 5 years ago, you're fired" Longhorns. You know...located in Austin "every coach is the next Darryl Royal for 5 minutes then he sucks", Texas. :D

[Bogey]

Although a few years back I was hoping we could get Gary Kubiak back, I think he is out of our league now. It looks to me like he is one of the next in line for an NFL head coaching job. I just don't see who we can get that will be an upgrade. No matter what anyone says, RC is a hell of a recruiter, always has been. Maybe having his offensive cordinator stick around for more than one year will help out the offense.

[Refman]

Bogey--

Same old tired story. That RC is a great recruiter. Yadda yadda.

The fact of the matter is that being a great recruiter isn't worth a damn if you can't utilize the talent once you have it. RC has spent the last 2 decades exhibiting an ineptitude at utilizing talent. He can only hide under the skirt of his recruiting prowess (which has become questionable) for so long.

[Puedlfor]

Was RC really a great recruiter? Or did he benifit from the downfall of Texas and OU during the early 90's? I would suggest the latter.

Also, I am no great fan of RC, but he is one of the top defensive coaches in the nation - there is not a lot of talent on that A&M defense - Sammy Davis and Jarrod Penright are good, Ty Warren is enigmatic and everyone else is sorta so-so, some are ok, some are sucky - so the fact that they still have a good defense is testament to RC. I think you underestimate his abilities.

Also, I would look at the Florida job search as a possible harbinger of the trouble of expecting to get a good coach - Florida is, frankly, a better job than A&M, and they had to settle for Ron Zook. I have my doubts that A&M will be able to land an excellent coach if they get rid of RC.

[Refman]

We might not be able to land an "excellent" coach, but we CAN land a coach with a system that will work. It's not always about the best coach, but the best man for the particular job. RC has done nothing but underachieve.

[DCkid]

Originally posted by Puedlfor
Was RC really a great recruiter? Or did he benifit from the downfall of Texas and OU during the early 90's? I would suggest the latter.

Also, I am no great fan of RC, but he is one of the top defensive coaches in the nation - there is not a lot of talent on that A&M defense - Sammy Davis and Jarrod Penright are good, Ty Warren is enigmatic and everyone else is sorta so-so, some are ok, some are sucky - so the fact that they still have a good defense is testament to RC. I think you underestimate his abilities.

Also, I would look at the Florida job search as a possible harbinger of the trouble of expecting to get a good coach - Florida is, frankly, a better job than A&M, and they had to settle for Ron Zook. I have my doubts that A&M will be able to land an excellent coach if they get rid of RC.
I think he is a good recruiter, the problem is he's just an absolutely horrible offensive coach and it some how rubs off on his offensive coordinators. He's a top-notch defensive coordinator, but not a very good head coach. Maybe the Aggies don't have a whole lot of talent on defense right now, but they've produced as many defensive NFL players as anybody over the past decade. So, they definitely were bringing in the talent. The problem now is he's just not as good of a recruiter as Brown or Stoops, who are two of the best in the nation.

I think a lot of Aggies, like myself, don't care if they go hit and miss with another coach. It's time for a change for better or for worse. When a team shows no signs of improvement for several years it's time to mix things up. Replace RC!

[ESource]

Originally posted by Refman
As opposed to the long list of smart moves by the Texas "we haven't won a national championship since hiring you 5 years ago, you're fired" Longhorns. You know...located in Austin "every coach is the next Darryl Royal for 5 minutes then he sucks", Texas. :D
Mack Brown, Rick Barnes, and Auggie Garrido. NOT too bad, huh? Pretty smart of 'ol DeLoss.....;)

[Refman]

Oh yeah Esource....REAL smart.

The problem in Austin is absolutely NO notion of building a program. The word I have heard is that if the Horns are not in the title game in the next 2 years that Brown will be on the hotseat...ridiculous.

I can remember not long ago that Makovic was the next coming of Daryl Royal.

Garrido runs a great program...no question.

As I recall Melvin Watkins and his Aggies beat Barnes and his Horns at the Erwin Center last season. Hmmmm....:cool:

[Bogey]

I think a lot of Aggies, like myself, don't care if they go hit and miss with another coach. It's time for a change for better or for worse. When a team shows no signs of improvement for several years it's time to mix things up. Replace RC!

That's what worries me, I think that there is a greater chance at a miss than success. I don't think I can stomach going through what Notre Dame has been going through with their poor seasons (although I think Willingham? will do good there). By the way, not many coaches come right in and win a National title, most have to go through a few bad seasons before the hit pay dirt. If you look at the records (with the exception of bowl games) I would put RC's up with almost anybody's.

[Groogrux]

Um, so keeping a coach who obviously isn't going to get you anything more than a 9 win season <B>is</B> building a program?

Say what you want about us over here in Austin, but we've got a #5 finish, a sweet 16 finish, and a national championship in the three major sports in the last year.

But I guess that isn't as good as winning it all in Women's Rodeo. :rolleyes:

[ESource]

Originally posted by Rocketman95

But I guess that isn't as good as winning it all in Women's Rodeo. :rolleyes:
AND table-tennis!:D :p

[ESource]

Originally posted by Refman
The word I have heard is that if the Horns are not in the title game in the next 2 years that Brown will be on the hotseat...ridiculous.

Lies! Lies! Vicious lies being spread by Aggie infiltrators! I guess we're going to have to fire the entire team that cleans up Bevo's "offerings" just to be on the safe side(and to clear out the rumor spreaders).....:p

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Refman
As I recall Melvin Watkins and his Aggies beat Barnes and his Horns at the Erwin Center last season. Hmmmm....:cool:
Even blind squirrels find nuts every once in a while.

[Refman]

By the way, not many coaches come right in and win a National title, most have to go through a few bad seasons before the hit pay dirt.
RC has had almost 2 decades. Sheesh!

If you look at the records (with the exception of bowl games) I would put RC's up with almost anybody's.
And a LOT of his record was put up against Rice, UH, SMU and TCU. A little deceptive I think. RC had teams that destroyed the SWC, but put him in against a good opponent and he folds like a house of cards.

Lies! Lies! Vicious lies being spread by Aggie infiltrators!
Uhhh....yeah. I heard that on Extra Points a few months ago if I recall correctly. Channel 13 sports isn't exactly Aggie friendly. As you may know their sports director, Bob Allen, has ties to the t-sips.

[dttd888]

Originally posted by Bogey
"No. Young will be better becuz he was the BEST QB in the nation coming out of high school..... " ESource

Yeah, the BEST QB in the nation whose team got beat by a QB that A&M is converting to WR. Anybody who watched the Title Game and saw McNeal dominate on a bad ankle knows he's a winner and was the BEST QB in High School last year. :p

For all those that say Young will be better than McNeal, or vice-versa, it's all a matter of opinion. For every website or poll that says Young is the best QB, you can find one that says the same about McNeal. I have followed Aggie Football very closely for the past 3 years. With our new Offensive Coordinator, i think McNeal will be perfect for this offense.
Some of ya'll are mentioning Reggie's masterful performance in the championship game with a sprained ankle. Most don't realize he also had a cracked rib. That's gutsy, pardon the pun.
One more stat about Reggie, he played less than 20 plays on defense, and led the team in interceptions.
As for the receiving game, i seriously believe that only UT's trio is better than A&M's. Take senior Bethel Johnson, T-Murph, the playmaking Jamaar Taylor, and add the speed of Terrence Thomas, and Goynes and that is an explosive bunch. All w/ experience now too. The newcomer Riley will step in nicely too.
Anyone know what's going on with Porter? That guy has great hands.

[Bogey]

dttd888, if you want to include newcomers for our receiving corp, don't forget about that converted QB I was talking about in Chad Schroeder. That kid is an athlete as witnessed by his running performance in the Title game.

I think you bring up a good point about comparing Young and McNeal. It seems athletically, they are about equal so it makes it hard to say which will be better. One thing that is noticable about McNeal though, is that he is a winner. He will do whatever it takes. I don't think I've seen that in Aggie QB since Bucky, and he wasn't near the athlete or passer that McNeal will be.

[Refman]

OMG...Bogey said Bucky. I remember watching that guy play in Kyle Field against LSU when I was a freshman in College Station. Ah the memories.

[Baqui99]

Reggie McNeal's more suited to WR, not QB. Apparently RC's promised the starting QB job to both Reggie and Drew Tate, who they've been recruiting since like middle school. Reggie got into some trouble for some comments that he made saying that he'd be starting by the 5th or 6th game.

[dttd888]

Originally posted by Bogey
dttd888, if you want to include newcomers for our receiving corp, don't forget about that converted QB I was talking about in Chad Schroeder. That kid is an athlete as witnessed by his running performance in the Title game.

I think you bring up a good point about comparing Young and McNeal. It seems athletically, they are about equal so it makes it hard to say which will be better. One thing that is noticable about McNeal though, is that he is a winner. He will do whatever it takes. I don't think I've seen that in Aggie QB since Bucky, and he wasn't near the athlete or passer that McNeal will be.

Bogey, I hear ya on Chad Schroeder. I put that quote together pretty quick. I saw him in the championship game also, and he reminds me of crouch, not just because he's white. He may be a little short, but that might be good, because he stays low, and has great balance.
I quarterbacked at Klein High School in 2000, and Sloan Thomas, #9 for U.T., was my receiver. I guy by the name of Jeff Hebert, who played with us also, just walked on to A&M for receiver. He could be a sleeper too.

[dttd888]

Originally posted by Baqui99
Reggie McNeal's more suited to WR, not QB. Apparently RC's promised the starting QB job to both Reggie and Drew Tate, who they've been recruiting since like middle school. Reggie got into some trouble for some comments that he made saying that he'd be starting by the 5th or 6th game.

Reggie can play either position. Actually he could play either side of the ball, whether it be in the secondary (could you imagine him at free safety?) or qb/receiver. But you got to give a guy like McNeal a chance to play QB excusively. Suppposedly, he can throw a good 70+. Combine that with his McNabb-like feet, and he will be the centerpiece for our other skilled players.
Senior year I played with Sloan Thomas (UT receiver) and Ed Bailey (Rice runningback). Had a great solid team. Our senior year, we played Baytown Lee, and they had a freshman quarterback named Drew Tate. He looked small and intimidated. But i have never seen a smarter, more accurate, quarterback in high school. The kid was a freshman playing our varsity. He can move better than people realize too, but not like Reggie.
I heard a quote by Tate that said, "If i have to sit on the bench while Reggie leads us, I'll be his biggest fan."
We are in great hands at quarterback. The skilled players will be there from now on too. That extension to our stadium has, and will continue to pay big dividends in our recruiting efforts.

By the way, i saw Derek Farmer on campus last week and he said his knee is 100%.

[DCkid]

Originally posted by Rocketman95
Say what you want about us over here in Austin, but we've got a #5 finish, a sweet 16 finish, and a national championship in the three major sports in the last year.

Oh yeah?! Well....the Aggies have dominated the football rivalry for the majority of my lifetime...that's all I care about! :p

[dttd888]

Originally posted by ESource

I'd never do that to a fellow Longhorn! I'm talking about the actual Aggies out there and RC. How could he(RC) even contemplate switching McNeal to any other position besides QB?! What a joke? Like I said before, "the Aggies, how can you NOT love 'em....." :D

Reggie will get every chance to prove himself at QB. If Reggie is better, which i feel that he is, then Tate will have to wait.
Tate has already said he doesn't mind waiting his turn.
Reggie is the new breed (McNabb, Cordell Stewart)

[dttd888]

Originally posted by gr8-1
I'd be willing to bet that McNeal will end up at DB, not WR in 2 years. Not BS'ing, I have a pretty reliable "source."

gr8-1, unless you hear it out of RC's mouth yourself, than it is unreliable.

[dttd888]

Originally posted by dttd888


Reggie can play either position. Actually he could play either side of the ball, whether it be in the secondary (could you imagine him at free safety?) or qb/receiver. But you got to give a guy like McNeal a chance to play QB excusively. Suppposedly, he can throw a good 70+. Combine that with his McNabb-like feet, and he will be the centerpiece for our other skilled players.
Senior year I played with Sloan Thomas (UT receiver) and Ed Bailey (Rice runningback). Had a great solid team. Our senior year, we played Baytown Lee, and they had a freshman quarterback named Drew Tate. He looked small and intimidated. But i have never seen a smarter, more accurate, quarterback in high school. The kid was a freshman playing our varsity. He can move better than people realize too, but not like Reggie.
I heard a quote by Tate that said, "If i have to sit on the bench while Reggie leads us, I'll be his biggest fan."
We are in great hands at quarterback. The skilled players will be there from now on too. That extension to our stadium has, and will continue to pay big dividends in our recruiting efforts.

By the way, i saw Derek Farmer on campus last week and he said his knee is 100%.



I forgot to mention that Drew Tate and Baytown Lee beat us that game. If memory serves right, he threw for 3 and ran for 2. Don't know for sure if that's right, but i do know he was the difference maker for them.

[Refman]

Originally posted by Baqui99
Reggie McNeal's more suited to WR, not QB. Apparently RC's promised the starting QB job to both Reggie and Drew Tate, who they've been recruiting since like middle school. Reggie got into some trouble for some comments that he made saying that he'd be starting by the 5th or 6th game.
Middle school? Are you SURE? I think that your information is not accurate. If it were, then you have just blown the lid on severe recruiting violations. I suggest that you check the FACTS before posting something that egregious.

[JamesC]

Greg#3, Are you talking about Anthony Wright that went to Klein Forest? I remember him. He came to KF right after our football season was over. He was a sophmore when I was a senior. I was on the football team there too.

[ESource]

Originally posted by dttd888

Reggie will get every chance to prove himself at QB. If Reggie is better, which i feel that he is, then Tate will have to wait.
Tate has already said he doesn't mind waiting his turn.
Reggie is the new breed (McNabb, Cordell Stewart)
Will he really get that chance?! Every year for the last decade, all we've heard about is how RC will install a "pro style" type offense which will open things up. And every year, all he does is revert to the running game! What makes you all think this year will be any different? Was last year's "offensive success" something you all want to really build on?:p Has your offensive coordinator really established himself as an "offensive wunderkind"? Deep down inside, you all must realize that getting the top QBs, WRs, TEs, etc. ain't gonna do any good as long as RC is there! With the season coming fast, how well do you sleep at night?:D

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Refman

Middle school? Are you SURE? I think that your information is not accurate. If it were, then you have just blown the lid on severe recruiting violations. I suggest that you check the FACTS before posting something that egregious.
Ever hear of football camps? Not illegal per se, but every large DI program uses them to recruit...even if its just building a relationship with younger players. I would pretty much guarantee that Tate went to the ATM camp for several years (why a QB would go to an ATM football camp is beyond me ;)) and that's what he's referring to.

[Refman]

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson

Ever hear of football camps? Not illegal per se, but every large DI program uses them to recruit...even if its just building a relationship with younger players. I would pretty much guarantee that Tate went to the ATM camp for several years (why a QB would go to an ATM football camp is beyond me ;)) and that's what he's referring to.
Of course I've heard of the camps. That is not "recruiting." Building a relationship...maybe assuming that the coaches will be there 6 or 7 years later. That is not what he said. He insinuated that they were actively recruiting.

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally posted by Refman

Of course I've heard of the camps. That is not "recruiting." Building a relationship...maybe assuming that the coaches will be there 6 or 7 years later. That is not what he said. He insinuated that they were actively recruiting.
Coaches, assistants & former players use the camps to actively recruit players, often in violation of NCAA rules. Potential prospects are separated from the "regular" campers & they get a much higher level of personal instruction, even on the Jr. High level. The NCAA has tried to crack down before but has been stonewalled by the Coaches Association. Again, I don't want to put words into his mouth, but I would think that's what he's referring to and not letter writing, phone calls & house visits.

[dttd888]

Originally posted by ESource

Will he really get that chance?! Every year for the last decade, all we've heard about is how RC will install a "pro style" type offense which will open things up. And every year, all he does is revert to the running game! What makes you all think this year will be any different? Was last year's "offensive success" something you all want to really build on?:p Has your offensive coordinator really established himself as an "offensive wunderkind"? Deep down inside, you all must realize that getting the top QBs, WRs, TEs, etc. ain't gonna do any good as long as RC is there! With the season coming fast, how well do you sleep at night?:D

ESource,
First of all, Im sleeping real well at night these days. A&M was built around the power running game, and it will always feature that. The challenge comes in finding great signal callers to distribute passes. I truly believe that we will have a more balanced attack in the future. (Drew Tate will push McNeal)
I agree that there is hype a lot when it comes to a season starting, but that happens everywhere. Do you expect RC to say, "Well, damn, our offense will sputter, but hey, our defense will be great."
As for our offensive coordinator being a "offensive wunderkind", that's yet to be seen. We can talk about how we didn't have enough experienced players and injuries, new scheme, and all that, but like Farris said yesterday, excuses are not going to be given.
You mentioned something about how can getting the best QBs, TEs, WRs, do any good. How can it not? Now, if after a couple more years, vast improvement hasn't been made on the offensive side of the ball, then changes will be made. Never has A&M had this kind of athletic talent.
I believe that we are very deep and talented at all of our "skilled positions". This year it will fall together. More hype? I personally don't think so; time will tell. See ya around Thanksgiving. Sleep tight, we will.

[Baqui99]

Watching the Aggie offense makes me cringe. To me it only consists of 4 plays: run left, run middle, run right, heave on 3rd and long.

I sat a couple of rows behind the parents section in last year's UT-A&M game at Kyle. You could tell they were all frustrated with the season-long sputtering offense. Christian Rodriguez' dad was especially pissed off at the poor offensive execution.

Derek Farmer's okay, but he doesn't really have an o-line to help him out. For some crazy reason Keith Joseph decided to move to FB to share time with Joe Weber. Bethel Johnson was once labeled "the best WR I've ever seen" by RC- LOL. Farris is a horrible passer, and is just one of the many underachieving Aggie QB's in the mold of: Pullig, Stewart, and McCown. Sure there's some talent on D. Sammy Davis is a good cover corner, Ty Warren's okay, Penright's a good pass rusher, and Kiel is solid.

The defense will be enough to carry the Ags to 7-8 wins this year, but not enough to beat the likes of Va Tech, NU, UT, and OU. Their offense simply cannot put points on the board against a good defense. Farris will crumble once again this year, and McNeal probably will get some reps at some point.

[Refman]

If you really think that Stewart is in the same mold as Pullig then you haven't watched much Aggie football. Was Stewart always the best passer? No. Did he make good decisions under pressue? No. But his passing arm was a TON better than Corey Pullig. Come on!!!

[gr8-1]

I can't wait to see how this pans out. The "source" of mine, is obviously not RC, but it's pretty damn close, let's leavie it at that.

The Mack being fired in two years rumor is probably BS; but our alums have HIGH expectations. As a matter of fact, that is what some Ags point to as the difference between atm and UT. Our coaches are among the highest paid in the country, they better win. I'm happy with Mack and Rick, and Augie, but I expect their goal every year is to win the national championship. Shouldn't that be every team's goal?

[dttd888]

Originally posted by gr8-1
I can't wait to see how this pans out. The "source" of mine, is obviously not RC, but it's pretty damn close, let's leavie it at that.

The Mack being fired in two years rumor is probably BS; but our alums have HIGH expectations. As a matter of fact, that is what some Ags point to as the difference between atm and UT. Our coaches are among the highest paid in the country, they better win. I'm happy with Mack and Rick, and Augie, but I expect their goal every year is to win the national championship. Shouldn't that be every team's goal?

I don't know who said that crap about Mack. It's obvious he isn't going anywhere, and rightfully so.
You made a good point, does anyone know RC's annual salary? I believe it is over $1 Mill. If you know, respond.
As for the "source", it just makes it skeptical, in my opinion, if it isn't straight from the only source that makes those decisions-RC. I can't say I've ever felt that RC didn't put the best players available on the field.

[gr8-1]

I can't say I've ever felt that RC didn't put the best players available on the field.

I'll agree with that. But, words are said to get recruits, I don't know.......

It's in Mack's contract to be in the top 5 (salary) in college. Thus, I expect the Horns to finish in the top 5 or at least ten in every year he is payed so. High expectations. He's righted the ship, now he has to take us to the promise land. I won't demand a championship every year, but we have to be mentioned or in the mix, like an FSU or Miami. UT has that kind of talent now and will for the foreseeable future.

I'm pretty sure RC makes 1 mill+.

[ESource]

Originally posted by dttd888

See ya around Thanksgiving. Sleep tight, we will.
I'm looking forward to it!!! Btw, don't let the bed-bugs bite.....:D

[Refman]

I'll tell you what Esource. I'll make a little wager with you. If Texas beats A&M I will start a new thread entitled We got our butts handed to us. If A&M beats Texas you do the same. Deal?

[DVauthrin]

Oh man.

You aggie fans legitimately expect to come into Austin this year and win? With considerable talent deficiencies compared to UT.

Let me enlighten you on the way the Rivalry has been recently:

You guys have the magic homefield thing at Kyle Field which makes games close that shouldn't be: See last year.

But when the game is in Austin it tends to play more to what one would expect.

See Ricky Williams' special day and Chris Simms torching of A&M two years ago.

This years game is in Austin, and I do expect a Longhorn win.

Benson,Simms, Roy, BJ, and Sloan oughta give your defense fits this year. Also last years game had incredible winds which hurt us more because we like to pass some.

As long as Austin doesn't have those crazy winds in November too, I see this game being a big win for us.


We have the better team, and you do not have the homefield advantage to keep you close this year.

And until you remove RC it will likely stay that way for the forseeable future.

This may hurt, but while I despise the Aggies, and their calling us "TU" and having the whole purpose in life to beat us, OU is the on field rival at this point and time.

That is the game I have marked as the game we have to win if we want to achieve our expectations.

Overall, I do respect the Aggies, but in my honest opinion as long as Mack and RC are our respected coaches it will be UT dominating this series for years to come and as long as Stoops stays at OU they will scare me more as a rival for a National Championship.

[ESource]

Originally posted by Refman
I'll tell you what Esource. I'll make a little wager with you. If Texas beats A&M I will start a new thread entitled We got our butts handed to us. If A&M beats Texas you do the same. Deal?
I'm always up for a friendly wager! The deal is sealed.....:cool:

[Refman]

You're on dude. Always a friendly wager. It's a friendly rivalry. :cool: