ClutchFans Game Thread: Mavericks @ Rockets 3/24/2012

[FTW Rockets FTW]

Missed Lee Three pointer and Phantom foul on Dirk. 3 points there

WELL DONE REFS

[hahachui]

we lose.
but WE BATTLE!!!

I wanted to have 3 first round pick by tanking...
after watching this game,..,.i find that i was wrong.
I want my team to win. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Croatian Sensat]

The only bad call was that phantom Lee foul on Dirk. Everything else was spot-on. Stop with homerism.

[thejav]

Damn it!!!

[Half Nelson]

proud of our guys. they fought hard and shorthanded but oh well. they kept it close at least.

[crash5179]

I don't feel mad about this, just kind of numb.

Thats because I'm mad enough for both of us.

[Amel]

Man

This closing of games has been so chit for the Rockets since probably 2009

we just cant close

[jtr]

We need to get Lowry or Martin back soon or we are looking at the 14th pick again.

[AroundTheWorld]

I kind of want to beat up those refs with a baseball bat right now.

[killakim]

offically out of the playoffs

[jopatmc]

We just shot less than 40% from the field and took a playoff team to overtime and almost took them at the buzzer.

[tehG l i d e]

If only Patterson showed up. Where was his mind today?

[RayStats34]

Well that sucked......now I need a drink.....

[mvpcrossxover]

Du Ma!!! Screw you refs!!!!!!!

meanwhile

Chandler "The Kid" BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

[ABrooks0]

dang..now we're out of the playoffs

[Rip Van Rocket]

The only bad call was that phantom Lee foul on Dirk. Everything else was spot-on. Stop with homerism.
Who the hell are you?

[nadman89]

man they were tired playing off a back to back and we got schooled honestly i dont think we can win any of three against em now we have to play catch up in the playoff race like last yr where every1 wins in front of us **** this

[REEKO_HTOWN]

Gutted. Absolutely gutted.

[apollo33]

It's hard fought I guess...

The refs totally ruined it though.

But on the bright side we just increased the chance of landing that 20ish Pick of Dallas

[tehG l i d e]

Chase just doesn't have that clutch gene Parsons has. He's so bad at end of game last minute 3s. Bet he;s like 0-34 on those.

[jtr]

2 starters out = no bench = loss

[Uprising]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/lazenby19691969/05_05_02_vs_mavericks.jpg

[MONON]

offically out of the playoffs

Not by a long shot. They played hard to the end. When we get KMart & Klow back, we'll be at full strenght again. Hated that phantom foul on Lee though.:mad:

[Yung-T]

The only bad call was that phantom Lee foul on Dirk. Everything else was spot-on. Stop with homerism.

This, I hate how most of people here always blame the refs instead of focusing on the fact that we blow the majority of possessions and make unbelievable mistakes. If we don't leave Terry open on all these clutch situations, mess up our defense rotations and rush shots this game wouldn't have gone to OT.

[cuddie]

Wonder how Pat feels about this? Played a horrible game but you know if Nowitzki made the same moves he'd get a foul every time. Maybe his tweet had something to do with it, even though it's incredibly evident that he was correct in his assessment of NBA refs?

[Rocket_Man_2.0]

3 ghost calls against the Rockets ...Rigged...Rigged...Rigged:o:mad:!!

[Pocket Rockets]

Man

This closing of games has been so chit for the Rockets since probably 2009

we just cant close

Short term memory loss?

Lakers and thunder games ring a bell?

[ABrooks0]

14th pick...again?

[Yung-T]

14th pick...again?

I'm actually cool with a 14th pick in this year's draft, lots of guys to steal that would be top 10 easily in other years.

[conquistador#11]

lee went cold at the end of the regulation, must have been due to the heavy minutes. If only we had a small forward, one that could have been a 14th pick, to at least spare him seven minutes, lee wouldn't have missed all those shots.

and what's up with the refs taking a way points from us. second game in a row.
oh well buhumbug

[Uprising]

Mediocre.

[rocketsmetalspd]

dang..now we're out of the playoffs

Lots of games left. All the teams have tough games left. Rockets will make it but most on the bbs would rather have them tank.

[AroundTheWorld]

Pat was terrible. Courtney's shot was off, unfortunately.

[mvpcrossxover]

Pat was terrible. Courtney's shot was off, unfortunately.

yeah, off by one point :mad:

[ThaShark316_28]

14th pick...again?

The theme of every Rockets loss on this board, I swear.

[solid]

Hard fought game came down to the wire and C-Bud could have won it. Too much Brandon Wright. Seven blocks, that's ridiculous. And of course, Jason the Rocket Killer Terry, same ole, same ole. Boy, I am sick of him. You can't ask for more except a decent game from Patterson who stunk!

[eman]

PPat was right about the refs, but there was nothing right about his game tonight.

[rocketsmetalspd]

The theme of every Rockets loss on this board, I swear.

yeah can't wait for the team to make the playoffs and shut them up.

[Commodore]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dirk getting stitches as we speak...</p>&mdash; Bill Ingram (@TheRocketGuy) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy/status/183749594742657026" data-datetime="2012-03-25T02:58:11+00:00">March 25, 2012</a></blockquote>
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guess that Scola elbow got him

[rocketsmetalspd]

Pat was terrible. Courtney's shot was off, unfortunately.

He has not been right since falling on his head, it might still be bothering him.

[Yung-T]

yeah can't wait for the team to make the playoffs and shut them up.

So that we end up with no championship and no addiditional talent for next season, so that it's the same again for the next years? People that want us to make the playoffs instead of getting 2 or 3 picks are shortsighted and don't understand how you get us out of this cycle.

[mvpcrossxover]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dirk getting stitches as we speak...</p>&mdash; Bill Ingram (@TheRocketGuy) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRocketGuy/status/183749594742657026" data-datetime="2012-03-25T02:58:11+00:00">March 25, 2012</a></blockquote>
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guess that Scola elbow got him

aww, next time we'll tell lee to go easy on him with the foul :rolleyes:

[Rudyc281]

Tough loss but got 2 keep playing to win we are only out of the playoffs by a small margin

[rocketsmetalspd]

I still don't understand why the Morey did not pick up a vet for the stretch run. Can the team still pick someone that can help them or is it too late to add players?

[Spooner]

Guys I haven't been this pissed in a very long time. I'm actually contemplating not watching the NBA anymore. As if the mess of a lockout wasn't enough, they have to blatantly fix games. It's getting pretty obvious. I'm sure I'll cool down and keep supporting the Rockets, but this is getting ridiculous.

[MiracleShot]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvindqFkn11r76lino1_400.jpg

Like someone else said, I'm not mad, just numb. You get used to it as a Rockets fan.

[hitman1900]

The theme of every Rockets loss on this board, I swear.

And why not? The rockets continue to hover around the 7th to 9th seed year after year.

[daywalker02]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvindqFkn11r76lino1_400.jpg

Like someone else said, I'm not mad, just numb. You get used to it as a Rockets fan.

We shot poorly..... 38 percent to 46 pct by the Pricks.....
I aint mad too.... our rebounding was phenomenal

We have to look how to avoid Wright... that guy blocked 7 times.

[UTAllTheWay]

And why not? The rockets continue to hover around the 7th to 9th seed year after year.

To be fair, they are hovering around the 4th seed as well this year.

[v3.0]

I'm amazed Ppatt and other players don't have fake accounts so they can go ahead and give the refs, Stern, etc. a piece of their minds freely.

#Peter Patron:

These refs can suck my big long schlong! And Stern is a goat****er!

[Spooner]

I still don't understand why the Morey did not pick up a vet for the stretch run. Can the team still pick someone that can help them or is it too late to add players?

Marcus Camby and Derek Fisher(apparently you don't even have to show up to the team you were traded to if you don't feel like it.) No one cares about the Houston Rockets anyway.

[TEXNIFICENT]

No one cares about the Houston Rockets anyway.

YOU KNOW STERN DOESN'T!!!!!!

[haydenfisher342]

Guys I haven't been this pissed in a very long time. I'm actually contemplating not watching the NBA anymore. As if the mess of a lockout wasn't enough, they have to blatantly fix games. It's getting pretty obvious. I'm sure I'll cool down and keep supporting the Rockets, but this is getting ridiculous.


I agree with you. Ive watch alot of NBA over 20 years of it. 2002-2012 is the worst reffing I have ever witnessed and im getting more and more of an aptitude to tell the difference. Dallas Rockets game was definitely fixed. I counted 4 phantom calls. And you can say, houston messed up, but so did dallas, they had mistakes too. Refs > players

[rocketsmetalspd]

Marcus Camby and Derek Fisher(apparently you don't even have to show up to the team you were traded to if you don't feel like it.) No one cares about the Houston Rockets anyway.

Agreed but I am thinking more of players that have been let go by other teams.

[crash5179]

I still don't understand why the Morey did not pick up a vet for the stretch run. Can the team still pick someone that can help them or is it too late to add players?

Teams can add players but they will not be elligable for the play-off roster.

[vstexas09]

tough loss...but i'm optimistic..

[Billionzz]

Would have been nice to have Kevin Martin for a game like this.

Without a doubt, if he played like Lee did in the 4th everybody would have started a thread about how much he sucks.

[ThaShark316_28]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvindqFkn11r76lino1_400.jpg

Like someone else said, I'm not mad, just numb. You get used to it as a Rockets fan.

Who are we? The Browns? No glory at ALL?

And why not? The rockets continue to hover around the 7th to 9th seed year after year.


OK, but give me something new. same **** gets said over and over. It's sad...but I gotta consider the source (fan base).

[Mr. Space City]

martin would have given up more points than le and been a ghost in the 4th and OT.

[cod]

Harden, Mayo, Terry... All season the Rockets have gotten killed by 2-guards putting up high arcing shots. The Rockets need to find a defensive stopper for spot mins against these guys or at least to have another option besides CLee.

[Billionzz]

martin would have given up more points than le and been a ghost in the 4th and OT.

Martin wouldn't have missed all of the wide open shots.

[Mr. Space City]

Martin wouldn't have missed all of the wide open shots.

martin would not even want the ball in those situations.

[jacoby]

Martin would not have played in the 4th quarter...

[redhotrox]

Martin wouldn't have missed all of the wide open shots.

Yes he would. Martin always shrinks in the clutch. Lee sucked today but he's been making them in close games lately.

[MiracleShot]

Yes he would. Martin always shrinks in the clutch. Lee sucked today but he's been making them in close games lately.
And he did make up for it by making a 3 and causing Dirk to miss the game winner, but no, referees..

[RocketsRed14]

I wish Odom played overtime

[hairyme]

This, I hate how most of people here always blame the refs instead of focusing on the fact that we blow the majority of possessions and make unbelievable mistakes. If we don't leave Terry open on all these clutch situations, mess up our defense rotations and rush shots this game wouldn't have gone to OT.

This, is bad reasoning.

Sure, players need to tell themselves this so they strive to become better, but we as fans and spectators don't need to try to trick ourselves into accountability. You more or less just said that we need to be a better team and not get in close games. Further, we should be so good so as not to let mistakes from the refs actually matter...

Maybe if we're the Heat and we lose to the Bobcats, then your reasoning is a little more valid -- the Heat would have to severely underperform to be in that position. Even so, every team has good and bad nights -- that's just how it works -- so ref calls are absolutely crucial in crunch time.

And it's not like we're the Heat. Our top two scorers are out and we were up against the defending champs. If you expected us to dominate the Mavs to the point of rendering refs' mistakes irrelevant, then you're in a fantasy world.

[Eney]

The entire 4qt and OT they had Marion guarding Dragic and Kid guarding Parsons, we didnt even try to post up Parsons once evethough he is 6'9 and Kid is 6'4. We should have at least tried.

[DreamShook]

Just finished the game (thank goodness I set the DVR for 30 mins after!)

PPat is straight garbage... SOOOOO Disappointed... Even when he is a complete failure in the paint rebounding and offensively, which is most nights people, you would think his defense would be his saving grace. How many times did he completely leave Dirk like he was a regular player at the top of the key? This cat frustrates me to no end! Calm down and power through your shots!!Stop flicking that **** up there! The ball didn't just come out of the oven! CALM DOWN!! PPat is charmin soft, man. There. It's out in the universe. I said it... SOFT!

Jason Terry is an assassin I hate to admit...

/rant

[bcast89]

Just finished the game (thank goodness I set the DVR for 30 mins after!)

PPat is straight garbage... SOOOOO Disappointed... Even when he is a complete failure in the paint rebounding and offensively, which is most nights people, you would think his defense would be his saving grace. How many times did he completely leave Dirk like he was a regular player at the top of the key? This cat frustrates me to no end! Calm down and power through your shots!!Stop flicking that **** up there! The ball didn't just come out of the oven! CALM DOWN!! PPat is charmin soft, man. There. It's out in the universe. I said it... SOFT!

Jason Terry is an assassin I hate to admit...

/rant

Sad, but true. I'm still waiting for him to breakout and show his true self...
Is the guy still dealing with some kind of lingering injury or something? I mean what could it be that is causing him to suck so much?!

[Rockets12]

We badly needed Lowry and Martin in this game, our bench has taken a hit with those two gone. Dragic played enough minutes for an entire game(48) and lee and parsons played 40+ I believe. If we had our bench they wouldn't be so tired

[ThaShark316_28]

Sad, but true. I'm still waiting for him to breakout and show his true self...
Is the guy still dealing with some kind of lingering injury or something? I mean what could it be that is causing him to suck so much?!

That ankle. These NBA players will never use an injury as an excuse, but until next season, you're going to see him have 2-3 good nights, followed by 1 or 2 bad ones.

[tehG l i d e]

ppat can't dunk.

[larsv8]

Lack of depth hurt here. Perhaps Martin or Lowry would of been hot tonight.

[coachbadlee]

If Camby doesn't start Tuesday against Dirk, somebody wasn't paying attention during the 4th quarter.

[JayGoogle]

Lack of depth hurt here. Perhaps Martin or Lowry would of been hot tonight.

Would it have mattered with Jason Terry on the court? This guy kills us every time.

[OremLK]

You know, I feel pretty good about taking the defending champions to overtime and coming within one buzzer-beater shot of victory.

[jopatmc]

We badly needed Lowry and Martin in this game, our bench has taken a hit with those two gone. Dragic played enough minutes for an entire game(48) and lee and parsons played 40+ I believe. If we had our bench they wouldn't be so tired

We badly needed Lowry. That would have been enough against the Mavs small guards.

[IzakDavid13]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/lazenby19691969/05_05_02_vs_mavericks.jpg

YOU JUST HAD TO DO IT, DIDN'T YOU! :mad:

Now I'm going to have nightmares all over again.

[daywalker02]

I am just glad Dirk, Terry and Kidd are retiring soon.

[jopatmc]

I am just glad Dirk, Terry and Kidd are retiring soon.

Just wait another year and we'll be crashing up against Deron, Dirk, and DWIGHT!

[Surfguy]

I hate when we lose to the mavs. :mad:

Tough games ahead. Teams makings runs behind us. Do or die. :eek:

Is this another season where we get swept by the mavs? :(

Lets get this sh_t together and roll this rocket into the playoffs damn it! :cool:

Or, whatever. :confused:

Fu__ing losing to the Mavs, man, on their second night of the back-to-back. :o

These guys were supposed to be old timers and we were young. :p

To hell with it! ;)

:rolleyes:

[DaDakota]

We badly needed Lowry and Martin in this game, our bench has taken a hit with those two gone. Dragic played enough minutes for an entire game(48) and lee and parsons played 40+ I believe. If we had our bench they wouldn't be so tired

We have a bench but McHale doesnt pay them some games and runs the starters into the ground, like last night.

DD

[jopatmc]

We have a bench but McHale doesnt pay them some games and runs the starters into the ground, like last night.

DD

It was a have-to situation. Did you really want to see any more of Fortson? He cannot run the offense. McHale didn't sign him. Morey did. We needed Lowry last night off the bench in the worst way. With Lowry running the bench brigade, we win by 5+ points.

[roslolian]

We have a bench but McHale doesnt pay them some games and runs the starters into the ground, like last night.

DD

WHo? Greg Smith, Fortson and Morris are the only people able to play that didn't play. In a close/must win game against the defending champs I can understand if they don't get mins. The Warriors game Fortson and Morris got plenty of burn.

[conquistador#11]

a serious question.... why the F can't terry average his average when he plays the rockets? Uggggh! body check him! I don't mind dirk going for 50 but terry just puts me in a bad mood.

[daywalker02]

Just wait another year and we'll be crashing up against Deron, Dirk, and DWIGHT!

That be sick.....

[DaDakota]

WHo? Greg Smith, Fortson and Morris are the only people able to play that didn't play. In a close/must win game against the defending champs I can understand if they don't get mins. The Warriors game Fortson and Morris got plenty of burn.

Look at the minutes the bench played last night, not very many, McHale has too quick of a hook, and eventually the starters run out of gas, like last night.

DD

[Kojirou]

Look at the minutes the bench played last night, not very many, McHale has too quick of a hook, and eventually the starters run out of gas, like last night.

DD

They didn't play many minutes because Camby was the only guy off the bench who didn't play like dog crap.

I'm sure if McHale had played Fortson 12 minutes and the Mavericks get a nice lead from that, you would be bitching about that too.

I know you don't want to acknowledge this DD, but maybe this team might actually be better off or deeper if we have either our best player or our top scorer in the game. Just a thought.

I haven't been this angry at a loss for a long time, largely because of how bull**** it was. Also, because from Friedman is reporting, I'm pretty sure Lowry has meningitis or encephalitis or something like that. I had that before, and it's way too similar to how he is right now. So I pretty much think he's done for the year.

[DaDakota]

I know you don't want to acknowledge this DD, but maybe this team might actually be better off or deeper if we have either our best player or our top scorer in the game. Just a thought..

Our best player was playing already, but Kyle would have certainly helped last night.

DD

[chapinha_br]

Do we really need Lowry? Dragic is a killer out there

[nadman89]

were gna be 8th again denver gettin raped thank you minny

[mr. 13 in 33]

next time we play the mavs i hope pat would play better and camby guarding dirk

[OremLK]

Do we really need Lowry? Dragic is a killer out there

When our backup is Forston, yes, we need Lowry back. Dragic can't play 48 minutes a game night and night out...

[Rocketman03]

The rockets were robbed of this game, just like they were robbed by Tim Donaghy back in the 2005 playoff series against the Rockets,but this time Mark Cuban managed to pay off Tony Brothers. Tony Brothers had several key calls in favor of the Mavs, which ulitmitaly decided the game:
1. The 3 pointer by Lee that was even reviewed, but they still got it wrong, cuz Tony Brother's ego was too big to change his original of a 2 to a 3.
2. The offensive foul call against Dragic, when it was clearly a foul against Dirk. Dragic should have had 2 free throws for a chance to go up by 2.
3. The foul call against Houston with left, when Dirk missed a point blank layup because of good D, he wasant even touched, and all because the ref anticipated the call.
Seriously though, no one could stop Tim Donaghy from placing tens of thousands of dollars in bets on games to make some extra cash. The NBA has done nothing extensive, except a slap on the wrist. I guarantee there are other refs in the NBA from part taking in such activities, theres nothing stopping them but their conscience. Something needs to be done. Officiating in the NBA has gottten outta control!

[coachbadlee]

Whoever wins the next game, wins the season series.;)

[daywalker02]

BRANDAN Wright is having a PER of 22, blocking 1.5 shots per game