Barkley complaining about teammates AGAIN!

[Axeman]

I'm so sick of this guy. I don't care how many points or rebounds he scores. The guy has ONE phenomenal game, we win ONE measly game against a team with 8 players, and here goes Charles talking trash about his team in the media. Wasn't there some article in the paper last week where Chuck said something like "No matter how bad it gets, we need to keep any disputes or disagreements in the locker room and not in the media..." Well, I'll let this cancer to team chemistry speak for himself, and you all can be the judge. To me, this looks like putting it right out in the media, like making a generalization about himself vs. the rest of the team.

"It's been a very frustrating, disappointing season," Barkley said. "Tonight was the first game I played at what I felt like was my capabilities. For the first time this season I felt like I had a clear mind. I had to accept the fact that I know when I go to practice tomorrow, there's going to be beepers and cell phones going off when we're trying to meet. I understand that before the game when we're supposed to get ready for the game when we used to watch tape there's going to be BET on. I understand and accept the fact that when we're supposed to leave at 4 o'clock, guys are not going to show up until 4:30."

Man, Charles has always been such a saint in his career... Always working hard in practice, showing up for camp in shape, always on time for everything. Too bad noone else ever lives up to his high standard... YEAH RIGHT!

It's no wonder this guy will never win a ring. As good a player as he is, he just doesn't have the focus to keep his mouth shut long enough to just play ball. Just like Michael Jordan said - His talent is great but his discipline is just not there.

[Sleepy]

Whats this have to do with his discipline. He is just saying the truth. No wonder this team is 3-10. And traing camp is the place to get in shape. Who cares what he says he shows up everynight a produces. You need to read my poat A BIG HEART. Go Charles .

[PhiSlammaJamma]

If Barkely can do what he did last night, and Francis can continue to score 20 plus. We may win some games yet. I hope he keeps his promise to play this well every night out. Wininng will take care of everything else.

[Launch Pad]

You can have a big heart and still lack discipline. Heck, most of the armchair coaches on this BBS have huge hearts, but . . .

Furthemore, training camp is not the place to get in shape. A good player will stay in shape on his own time. Training camp is about learning the plays, incorporating new players, and generally gelling (or jelling dependending on who you ask) and should not be used as your local meeting of Jenny Craig http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif

[Finalfantasy]

Charles Barkley is the man!!!!

Mad props to Barkley for speaking his mind and let the fans know what is going on in the ballclub!!!

Hey axeman, you must be one of the guys watching BET and be late for departure, otherwise stop throwing bull*****!

[Axeman]

1. It takes discipline to keep your mouth shut.

2. Barkley, throughout his career, has been a slacker when it comes to conditioning (witness all his game 6 and 7 flame-outs in every playoff series he's ever played in)

3. The great athletes all show up to camp IN SHAPE so they can spend their time practicing, not sucking air.

What I'm sick of is how this guy just rips on everyone else like he's perfect or something. Team chemistry is important and this dude is a cancer to team chemistry... period.

But, yeah, props to Charles for that great game against a team of 8 people... That's all it takes to get his gums flapping about his teammates again.

How often did you hear that kind of crap coming out of the Rockets locker room in the championship years.... How about NEVER.

[Pole]

I don't know Axeman; from the way I read it, you didn't write anything concrete to condemn Barkley, and he didn't say anything concrete to condemn himself. Barkley didn't name any names--that's what makes this much, much different. All he said was that basically, the team needs to step it up and get serious; which quite frankly, we all know to be true.

[Sleepy]

How can you bash a guy who puts up great numbers everynight. He is a 16 yr vet and still one of the greats to play thats still on the top side of his game. Charles comes in everynight to play to win and to compete. He is the one who led this team to the playoffs last year and has been the backbone of this team. It doesnt matter if a team has 8 or 12 players he does it night in and night out.so get off of Charles and support the things he is doing for this team.

[Sleepy]

AXE
Charles has had alot of great games this year. 18pts 24 rebs. Wake this guy is a leader on and off the court. Stop bashing a man for saying what he feels. And what he is saying is the truth. Your the one that needs to look at the situation. And see who the real LOSER is. Charles has played as an ALL-STAR this year and a HALL Famer.
Ask yourself this question. Where would the Rockets be without CHARLES?

[Finalfantasy]

Axeman, I think you are just trying to smear Charles Barkley's image.

You explained the motive of CB saying such things as to shift blame to other teammates, which is not the truth at all, it is not Barkley's style to shift blame, unlike Pippen.

If you care to recall for a second, CB said things like "the team is not playing well as a whole, and I was not playing well." just two days ago, but I guess you wouldn't because you are just another CB hater on this BBS following the trend.

Believe me, you are the one that needs to grow up.

[cyber dave]

Right on FF.
I have refrained from commenting on the season, as others have done a good job at either berating this team, berating Barkley, or encouraging the team and exonerating Barkley. Barkley has changed a lot the past two years, has been working out and in shape, and plays his ass off! Now I am not about to start criticising the other players on the team, but Charles has been the man, the leader. Go ahead and dispute that.

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When a man stands for nothing, he'll fall for anything.

[Finalfantasy]

theCabbage, as long as CB doesn't single out anyone's name on TV it is not a problem at all, teams will eat you up no matter they know it or not, and CB did not disclose anything that can be exploited by other teams.

In fact, it is a common leadership tactic to address issues publically and indirectly, the whole point of doing so is to avoid talking to them one on one. The guys who did not behave professionally will know a teammate's mind in such way, without feeling being singled out and therefore hard feeling is avoided.

The only one who should address problems to guys one on one or as a whole in a team is the coach. Barkley did a wise thing by not interfering a coach's job, yet conveyed his feeling to the teammates.



[This message has been edited by Finalfantasy (edited November 24, 1999).]

[Axeman]

I'm not bashing him for telling the truth. I'm bashing him for NOT telling the truth but pretending to tell the truth when it suits his ego (i.e. to make him look good).

Charles: "Tonight was the first game I played at what I felt like was my capabilities."
Translated: "Tonight was the first game I played like the Charles of old instead of the OLD Charles. The reason it was thirteen games into the season is because I can only play this way once every THIRTEEN games or so."

Charles: "For the first time this season I felt like I had a clear mind."
Translated: "For the first time this season, I didn't have a decent NBA player guarding me."

Charles: "I had to accept the fact that I know when I go to practice tomorrow, there's going to be beepers and cell phones going off when we're trying to meet."
Translated: "I have to accept the fact that this team is almost in last place, and I'm on it. BUT IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!!"

If you don't see how he's bashing his teammates only to make himself look better, you must be blind...

(Yeah, like noone else in the NBA has a cell phone at practice or in the locker room at halftime....)

[This message has been edited by Axeman (edited November 24, 1999).]

[Axeman]

Finalfantasy,

You are living in fantasy if you think that avoiding talking to a teammate one-on-one and going to the media is better than just talking it out man to man.

What rock were you under when Charles went to the media and said Pippen owed him an apology? Did you see what mess THAT created? What do you think would have happened if Chuck had just called Pippen on the phone to talk about it?

And, he's not "staying out of the coach's way", he's getting in the coach's way by not being direct. Yet another situation where he ought to just go talk to Rudy and settle it internally.

[ROCKETBOOSTER]

I expect to hear nonsense like that from Barkley.....but what the hell is Hakeem problem?

Hakeems qoute: "It's like," Hakeem Olajuwon said somewhat facetiously of the kids today, "cell phones go off at halftime and somebody says, 'You have to shoot more.'"

Its obvious he's talking about Francis taking 20 shots. What in the Hell is Hakeem talking about?

[thedreamshake99]

Barkley may of not named names, but everyone knows who he's refering to.

Just like the scenario that involoved Mario, and Clyde. Names weren't named, but everyone figured it out.

Either way, its flat out wrong to question your team mates in the media. It was wrong with Clyde and its wrong now.

Wasn't he the one claiming just a little while ago that he and his team mates had to stay away from the media???

Its like watching Andrew Gallota (sp?) After a while you realize that the guy doesn't keep making the mistake's (cheap shots) to gain an edge, he has a serious problem. Barkley, even though he states he'll stay away from the media (bashing his team mates) he can't do it.

He made his comments pointing the finger directly at certain players.

[BlastOff]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Barkley came in to training camp in pretty good shape, at least when compared to past years.

Being the AntiBarkley, of course it made me kinda suspicious.

Recently I was reading an issue of ESPN magazine where Michael Jordan told the crowd at his basketball camp (where Barkley was in attendance) that he had certain weight and curfew clauses in the $9m contract that he signed with the Rockets. I can think of 9 million reasons why Barkley is more or less going to be a good citizen this season.

To finish my ramble, I don't necessarily agree with the media stuff. But at the same time, I gotta look at how Mario went to the media when the Spurs sucked early last season before they tore NBA *ss en route to the championship.

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[rocketsfan66]

I'm with Pole on this one.

Dreamshake, maybe you know what
players Barkley was pointing
at, but I don't.

As for other teams pouncing on
us like thacabbage says, they
already have. That is Barkley's point.
You think it could be worse?

[thacabbage]

theCabbage, as long as CB doesn't single out anyone's name on TV it is not a problem at all, teams will eat you up no matter they know it or not, and CB did not disclose anything that can be exploited by other teams.

I am talking about the "mental" game. If another team knows that your guys are in chaos, they can attack those things through the media and cause further seperation amongst teammates.

In fact, it is a common leadership tactic to address issues publically and indirectly, the whole point of doing so is to avoid talking to them one on one. The guys who did not behave professionally will know a teammate's mind in such way, without feeling being singled out and therefore hard feeling is avoided.

Oh? It's much better, as a leader, to address a player one-on-one in private, and let him know what is wrong, rather than address your problems through the media. Everyone, the fans, media, and the rest of the team know who Barkley was referring to when he made those comments. Don't you think that certain individual is now in a pretty embarassing situation being undressed indirectly by a teammate through the media. If Charles had spoken to the player in a private surrounding, the problem would have been taken care of, confusion would have been avoided, and further negativity would have remained out of the picture. Now, this will just lead to more problems.

The only one who should address problems to guys one on one or as a whole in a team is the coach. Barkley did a wise thing by not interfering a coach's job, yet conveyed his feeling to the teammates.

If that is so, then Charles should keep his mouth shut altogether.

I will admit, Charles has toned down on the public personal attacks as of the last few years, but he still has a problem with it. It has always caused friction between him and his teammates. Ever since his Phoenix days when he pretty much made a mockery out of Kevin Johnson. I can give you many examples of this: In one instance KJ had announced that he would be on the shelf for a number of weeks, and Barkley wondered aloud if KJ had a yeast infection. It also continued on through his days with the Rockets. He may have not directly come out and said, "Clyde is a lazy bum", but everyone knew who he was referring to, further complicating the situation. It's something about CB that we can't change, but don't try to deny that it isn't a distraction to any team.

One other thing. Many people, in there argument have stated something along the line of, "why is everyone bashing CB, he plays his ass off every night..". Let me just state that the two have zero correlation and I don't even see that as a valid debate. So what that CB plays hard every night? That means he can come out in the media and criticize fellow players? Or maybe, That Charles Barkley is the leader of this team and plays hard every night, proves that he does not show poor leadership skills by blasting teammates indirectly through the media.

Bottom Line: CB played a good game, I'll give the man that. But that in no way justifies publicly criticizing your teammates and revealing any open wounds the team may have. That just futher seperates the team, and in a way he is suggesting that he is perhaps above the team and not the problem.



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[Will]

I love Barkley. But let's tell it like it is, on both sides. On the one hand, he's right about the young players. Since they've ignored whatever he's said to them in private about their work habits, he's right to give them a harder kick in the butt by saying the same thing publicly in order to shame them, but WITHOUT naming them individually.

On the other hand, he's a total hypocrite. When he was their age, he took his work habits just as casually as they do. Now he regrets it, and he chastises the young Rockets when the guy he really ought to chastise is himself as a younger man. This is what happens to old folks. They grow up, erase their memory of their bad habits when they were younger, and take out their regrets instead on the identical bad habits of the next generation.

The story here isn't that Barkley is a lazy old jerk or a hard-working wise man. The story is that when he was young he was lazy, and now that he's learned to work harder, he's old. It's a sad story, but it happens all the time to billions of people with a lot less heart, character, and genius than Charles Barkley.




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The truth is out there... but not in this post.

[Iggy]

You all seem to enjoy filling in the blanks. Reading between the lines. -B******T- Barkley talks without thinking. So does my wife, but she can't rebound for crap. He made a general statement. Maybe his intent was to get a response from his teamates.
I think some people read with intent to get mad about something. It won't take much to stir up something shallow. Tempest in a teapot?
Should Barkley keep his mouth shut in america?
Land of the Free.

[RocketHead2]

Axeman

Dont watch him then if he pisses you off so much. The only person on the entire team who's even come close to contributing as much and Barkley is Francis. Besides, he didn't name names. He just let everyone on the team know he's frustrated. In any case, most of your points are wrong. Barkleys injuries in the playoffs for the most part were not due to conditioning.

barkley remains the best player on the team whether you like it or not. if you don't like watching Barkley, become a Jazz fan or something. You probably wont be missed.

[Axeman]

RocketHead,

My man, I've been a Rocket fan since the days of Calvin Murphy, Mike Newlin, Robert Reid, Moses Malone, Mike Dunleavy... I don't have to stop watching the Rockets because they happen to have a player on the team who's done nothing but slowly wreck it.

I watch the team because I'm a fan. And it's because I'm a fan that I get sick and tired of watching this guy destroy the team from within slowly but surely...

First it was Clyde
Then it was Mario
Then it was Pippen
Is Francis next???

Have the Rockets improved AT ALL since he's been on the team??
'97 - 6 games in Western Conference Finals
'98 - Out in first round of playoffs - Clyde quits, Elie leaves
'99 - Out in first round of playoffs - Pippen quits

I was around here watching the Rockets before Charles ever got here. If anything, he owes the fans a little respect who were supporting this team before he ever got here. He forgets that he came here BECAUSE the franchise was doing so well. Then he runs off the players that made the franchise thrive.

You watch... Francis is going to be the next one to get fed up with Barkley and he'll eventually say something in the media, too. Boy, then won't things be just peachy in H-Town.

[Achebe]

you're being entirely too over analytical (and biased, i might add)... charles was making light of the kids on the team, not unlike ppl i work w/ getting harassed by some of the older developers, it's nothing serious. he didn't say 'cuttino, stevie, shandon and bryce http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif' are just hanging out all of the time mackin'; they need to act like they're professionals... he said 'i've got to get used to the new world' (a passive aggressive and VAGUE stab at the kids that every old man in the free world does)

when he made a note that he was going to play better he put a fire under his own arse... you should be stoked about that...

sorry charles, you just can't win apparently w/ some people sheeshhh...

by the way, (no offense dream, other than the one intended to get you to realize that you don't have to score every night) where is the pent up anxiety towards dream about the same thing? or are you 33man, i mean axeman just playing tag along on an easy target???

[thedreamshake99]

Me personally, Im not a Barkley hater. I have always (before he came to Houston) held the proper game repect he deserves. His mouth is what I hate.

Lost in all of this is his obvious, finger pointing elsewhere

"These guys aren't on time"
but
"I had my best game"
but
"They have to watch BET"
but
"Im pulling it all together"

The list of Players Barkley has publily chastised is enourmous.

Armon Gilliam
KJ
Pippen
Iverson
Clyde
Elie
and now Francis

Im not saying that he doesn't have a proper point. My beef is that for someone who just a week ago finally realized he needs to keep away from the media about co players, it didn't stop.

Im confused aren't you some of the same people who hated Pippen for doing the same thing??????

[Axeman]

Thank you dreamshake99... Finally someone who is also willing to look at what is and not what they want things to be. THANK YOU...

[M-&-M]

I just heard Rudy T on his talk show say he has not been aware of any disruptions at meetings or practices with guys pagers or cellphones. hmmmm......
Barkley says what he thinks as we all should know by now. Nothing to get worked up about.
We need to get worked up about how to stop Scottie and Steve Smith and the Blazers Friday.

[Finalfantasy]

Axeman, what are you talking about Barkley shouldn't ask Pippen an apology on TV? How can you blame CB for it after Pippen asked to be traded in public? Hakeem was asking an apology from Pippen and how does that sound to you?

I don't think talking to Rudy is feasible to solve attitude problem,Rudy is a player coach, he is soft on players, I doubt he ever talk with players other than give them tapes to watch. Rudy didn't talk to Maloney for his lack of concentration and fire. He didn't talk with Pippen about his role on the team either, nor did he perceive Pippen's frustartion. If he did what a coach should do we will get a lot more for Pippen.

As for the embarrassing issue, the way CB handled it is exactly the way it should be done. Guys condemn Isiah Rider and Dennis Rodman for being late for practice, however, when the Rockets doing the same thing, only more serious considering that they are down 2-11. They should be embarrassed a little but being taught about attitude one on one is more embarrassing. Personally if I have missed a class, I would rather to have the teacher address it in the classroom without mentioning my name than asking me to her office and talk face to face. Embarrassment exists no matter you talk about about it privately or not. People stop undesired behavior as they want to avoid further embarrassment, it is called negative reinforcement in behaviorism.

I still don't know who are CB referring to despite some posters suggested fans and media all know of the names. I just don't like people make a big deal out of it, actually probably Rockets who is clean feel good that soemone step out to correct it, and those who were wrong already realized they should stop such behavior. The whole thing maybe well over a long time ago. Maybe some will say what if guys are ticked off by it and bear a grudge to CB, that is a possibilty but such a risk always exists when you try to deal such problems.

Actually, if you want to pick on someone you can try Francis, he said a while ago in a pregame interview that " it is hard to drive with those two guys clogging up the lane." What he siad is true, yet the same goes to what CB said. According to your theory, Francis is clearly shifting blame for the team's underperformance, and such things should be addressed within the organization solely. In fact, no one barked about Francis's remarks and I sense an inconsistency here.

Please stop making a big deal out of CB says.

[Finalfantasy]

I can't agree with the point that simply because someone has been on bad terms with several guys so that everything about him in personal relationships is his fault, and therefore he should shut his mouth up. I have a relative who has divorced for several times but in real life a very pleasant man, and no, I don't think he is pervertic in any way, his wives haven't used that against him in any court. And Clinton only has one wife but is he a good husband? The answer is no. If Hillary divorced him should we place blame on Hillary because Hillary has a big mouth(well, no sexism intended, women mean big mouths to me automatically http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif)? The same no. In fact, in most personal relationships the fault should be placed on both sides. I don't know what exactly happened between CB and his friends so those names mean very little to me.

[cyber dave]

Like I said in another post: Charles criticised the team as a whole. HE DID NOT NAME NAMES! There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. He has often given himself tougher criticism than his mates. So get off his back, the guy is a workhorse, and if a challenge is set forth for the rest of the team to step up, because of his comments, than good for him.

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When a man stands for nothing, he'll fall for anything.

[Cohen]

Some may not want to admit it, but Charles is the leader on this team. Hakeem is 'second' co-leader (he is too quiet).

Even leaders are not perfect, but they have to lead for a team to succeed. If Charles sees something that is bad for the team, let him handle it. If he gets out of line, it is up to Rudy to straighten him out.

Frankly, it seems that Charles is trying to get the younger players to rethink their intensity. G*d knows we could use that.

Also, note that Charles does not fingerpoint (even when Pipsqueek really lost the game) nor share what occurs in the locker room.

[bballfanatic]

Charles always says it like it is. I don't always agree with him but he pretty much states what he believes is the truth of the matter.

This one is tough for me. Charles, I thought, likes to keep things behind closed doors relating to team matters but, heehee, I know he must have a reason. If bringing attention to this matter straightens it out then good. Hope it doesn't get everyone arguing though.

The most important thing is that it is happening and should not be. I was shocked to hear about beepers going off while they are watching tapes or discussing strategy, etc., or guys watching BET rather than studying tapes. With the record and struggles we have, there is just no excuse for it. I personally think Rudy should put his foot down on this one. Or it should be an NBA rule - no beepers, etc. except for emergencies during work hours - which includes the mental part.

This was a total disappointment to hear about. Eat, sleep and drink basketball Houston Rockets. GO ROCKETS!

[thacabbage]

As a leader you criticize your teammates behind closed doors. You can't let the rest of the NBA know that you guys are having problems. Teams will just recognize that there is no togetherness and attack that. You can't show your weaknesses in public. If you have a problem with your team, then you take care of it with them in practice, but there is no point taking it out on them to the media. What good will that do? It will just create chaos and confusion within the team. Adress it clearly to them and tell them that you don't like what is going on. What he did is not "ok" just because he didn't give names. Anyone else remember in 1996-1997, when during an interview with NBC, Charles openly criticized the team, and said, "sometimes I feel that some guys don't have the urgency that vets like me, Kevin, and Eddie are playing with (not exact)." Granted, he didn't give any names, but those statements did cause some confusion amongst Clyde, Mario, and Hakeem. Charles later did iron things out in a later interview and state that he was addressing the team as a whole, but those comments shouldn't have been said in the first place. Things like these need to be kept behind closed doors. When was the last time you ever heard any foul comment out of Michael Jordan? He addressed his team in privated when he had a problem with them.

Charles is a great player, I will give him that, and I am in no way trying to bash him. I just feel that sometimes it would be wiser for him to keep his mouth shut.

[Axeman]

Don't be fooled... Let's think about this for a second (and believe me, if you only think about it for a second, it will become obvious):

1. Rockets are struggling this year
2. Charles doesn't want to go out on a bad note.
3. Charles is embarrassed about the team this year.
4. Charles has ONE good game and we finally beat a team (albeit a crippled one).
5. Charles, already embarrassed about the team's play, and a little puffed up about himself, decides to pull a, "See, it's not MY fault..." on everyone by saying this stupid comment.

What he's saying here is: "The real problem with this team is all these cell phones and BET. I have nothing to do with it." But, that's BS. Chuck has been struggling with his shot so far until last night. He's been missing free-throws, turning the ball over, just like everyone else. Now, he's trying to say -- "Look at those kids... It's their fault."

He needs to grow up enough to look at himself for a change and see how he's also contributed to the 3 - 10 start.
1. He's old and in decline.
2. He showed up for camp overweight again.
3. His elbow is messed up and he's having a hard time shooting well.

But, to Chuck, it's the cell phones and tv stations. I wonder if anyone on the Blazers, or Kings, or any other of the top teams in West has a cell phone or watches BET before games. I'll bet they do. Here's an interesting thought though... THEY'RE BETTER TEAMS THAN THE ROCKETS, SO THEY WIN THE GAMES.

Chuck's just frustrated that he's on a bad team this year, so he's going to make sure he makes everyone else look like the bad guy.

That's the reaction of a LOSER. Sorry. People need to stop putting this guy on a pedestal and see his stupid antics for what they are. He's not "planning" anything here. He's just being a crybaby.

[ROCKETBOOSTER]

Screw Barkley and screw Hakeem. Because right now their pissing me off. Barkley's not as smart as yall think fellas!

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[wizard]

maybe he did address the issue behind closed doors...its 13 games into the season and he said this was the first time he was playing with clear mind..we dont know what happens in the locker room..but i think after a 3-10 start its about time someone spoke up to let us know what is going on..so to the rocket faithful who criticize particular rocket players infavor of others..please understand it could be those players who are not committed off the court.

[wizard]

also for the people who say we'll barkley has no room no speak about commitment..granted he has a history for not coming to camp on shape and being unprepared..BUT THAT WAS THE PAST...Were talking about NOW!..I believe in the last 2 years he's stepped it up in his weight training and atleast he shows up on time.

[thacabbage]

How can you blame CB for it after Pippen asked to be traded in public?

Really? That's funny because I don't ever remember Scottie asking for a trade in public.

[AntiSonic]

Cabbage- Pippen implied it pretty thickly with his comments.

[Tenchi]

I thought he was talking about the NBA in general not the Rockets team.

[4chuckie]

Axe-
I think you missed the point. We are a terrible record with at least average talent. Charles is trying to ignite the team. Charles always tries to fire people up verbally.
I agree part of it may be frustration on his part, but wouldn't you say something if your employer (or school, etc) turned into a bad organization over night?
I would rather see Charles speaking his mind than to have an organization ignoring the obvious. We are a worse team this year.
But on the brighter side things do look better the last few games with the W vs Dallas and a great game vs. Portland.

[Doc]

Axeman......Chill dude.
You may think you know what is going on
in the Rockets locker room and you may guess
what is wrong or not with the team but it's
just your opinion and that's it,think positive man. Charles wants what we all want,
and that is W's so let him vent if needs be.
If it helps the team I'm all for it and he
probably knows more about the personalities
and ego's than us so don't take it personal,
you've stated your opinion on this matter and we have responded now ...SHUT UP!