Bushisms

[mc mark]

<i>"One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, D.C., is we've got these vampire-busting devices. A vampire is a-a cell deal you can plug in the wall to charge your cell phone."-Denver, Aug. 14, 2001

"There's a lot of people in the Middle East who are desirous to get into the Mitchell process. And-but first things first. The-these terrorist acts and, you know, the responses have got to end in order for us to get the framework-the groundwork-not framework, the groundwork to discuss a framework for peace, to lay the-all right."-Referring to former Sen. George Mitchell's report on Middle East peace, Crawford, Texas, Aug. 13, 2001 (Thanks to Michael Shively.)

"My administration has been calling upon all the leaders in the-in the Middle East to do everything they can to stop the violence, to tell the different parties involved that peace will never happen."-Crawford, Texas, Aug, 13, 2001 (Thanks to Michael Shively.)

"You saw the president yesterday. I thought he was very forward-leaning, as they say in diplomatic nuanced circles."-Referring to his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Rome, July 23, 2001 (Thanks to Alex Hernandez.)

''I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe-I believe what I believe is right."-Rome, July 22, 2001

"I can't tell you what it's like to be in Europe, for example, to be talking about the greatness of America. But the true greatness of America are the people."-Visiting the Jefferson Memorial, Washington, D.C., July 2, 2001

"Well, it's an unimaginable honor to be the president during the Fourth of July of this country. It means what these words say, for starters. The great inalienable rights of our country. We're blessed with such values in America. And I-it's-I'm a proud man to be the nation based upon such wonderful values."-Visiting the Jefferson Memorial, Washington, D.C., July 2, 2001

"I want to thank you for coming to the White House to give me an opportunity to urge you to work with these five senators and three congressmen, to work hard to get this trade promotion authority moving. The power that be, well most of the power that be, sits right here."-Washington, D.C., June 18, 2001

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease."-Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

"I haven't had a chance to talk, but I'm confident we'll get a bill that I can live with if we don't."-Referring to the McCain-Kennedy patients' bill of rights, Brussels, Belgium, June 13, 2001

"Can't living with the bill means it won't become law."-Referring to the McCain-Kennedy patients' bill of rights, Brussels, Belgium, June 13, 2001

"Russia is no longer our enemy and therefore we shouldn't be locked into a Cold War mentality that says we keep the peace by blowing each other up. In my attitude, that's old, that's tired, that's stale."-Des Moines, Iowa, June 8, 2001

"Anyway, I'm so thankful, and so gracious-I'm gracious that my brother Jeb is concerned about the hemisphere as well."-Miami, Fla., June 4, 2001

"It's important for young men and women who look at the Nebraska champs to understand that quality of life is more than just blocking shots."-Remarks to the University of Nebraska women's volleyball team, the 2001 national champions, Washington, D.C., May 31, 2001

"Our nation must come together to unite."-Tampa, Fla., June 4, 2001

"So on behalf of a well-oiled unit of people who came together to serve something greater than themselves, congratulations."-Remarks to the University of Nebraska women's volleyball team, the 2001 national champions, Washington, D.C., May 31, 2001

"If a person doesn't have the capacity that we all want that person to have, I suspect hope is in the far distant future, if at all."-Remarks to the Hispanic Scholarship Fund Institute, Washington, D.C., May 22, 2001

"Thirdly, the explorationists are willing to only move equipment during the winter, which means they'll be on ice roads, and remove the equipment as the ice begins to melt, so that the fragile tundra is protected."-Conestoga, Pa., May 18, 2001

"Presidents, whether things are good or bad, get the blame. I understand that."-Washington, D.C., May 11, 2001 (Thanks to Jay Schlossberg.)

"For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it."-Philadelphia, May 14, 2001 (Thanks to John Brooks.)

"There's no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead."-Washington, D.C., May 11, 2001

"But I also made it clear to [Vladimir Putin] that it's important to think beyond the old days of when we had the concept that if we blew each other up, the world would be safe."-Washington, D.C., May 1, 2001 (Thanks to Gene Mosher.)</i>

[kirkit]

i got some too. look down at the sig

[mrpaige]

At least mc mark's are actually Bush quotes, though, rather than Dan Quayle quotes being used as Bush quotes. You'd think that as many times as GWB managles the language that people wouldn't have to attribute the misquotes of others to him.

I know you probably got those from an email that was going around, so it's not your fault. I just wonder about the person who originally changed the Quayle quotes to make them appear to be GWB quotes.

[buffalospeedway]

oh s**t, that's good stuff. it's hilarious, but at the same time, so very, very sad.

related: someone posted this on another board i visit alot:

"This is a poem made up entirely of actual quotes from George W. Bush. The quotes have been arranged only for aesthetic purposes, by Washington Post writer Richard Thompson."


MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses.
Rarely is the question asked,
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the internet become more few?

How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.

[Achebe]

mrpaige, which of those are bush quotes and which of those are quayle quotes? The NASA one jumps out as being Quayle's... but I'm not sure of the authenticity of the rest...

A little funny that I picked up while searching for Bushisms. This video is allegedly dated @ 1992... 6 years after Bush "quit drinking". IMO, he's somewhat inebriated.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/tsg_bush.avi

[mrpaige]

Other than the "past is over" one which I don't know about, all of the ones in that sig are Quayle quotes (and, of course, the 'to be prepared' quote isn't even an accurate quote since Quayle said "Vice President", but it would be quite obvious it wasn't a Bush quote if it referred to being VP.)

[bobrek]

It sounds like Bush is a really good sport about this kind of stuff:

http://slate.msn.com/Features/bushisms/bushisms.asp

[Zac D]

Originally posted by bobrek
It sounds like Bush is a really good sport about this kind of stuff:

http://slate.msn.com/Features/bushisms/bushisms.asp

And of course that makes it okay...

[kirkit]

mr paige i think your wrong. go to moby online and check his archives thing. moby is a smart guy and he wouldnt lie.

[bobrek]

Originally posted by Zac D


And of course that makes it okay...

I don't see the big deal. If you take any one who speaks a lot, especially when answering questions and making unprepared statements, you will find a lot of mistakes.

There's a bunch of "Goreisms" floating around as well.
So what?

[buffalospeedway]

heh. bobrek, tell me you're not going to deny that w. is a little more tongue-tied than the average politician. politicians are usually able to speak ALOT more confidently "off-the-cuff" than w. is able to. the guy is simpy clueless without a prepared statement.

that said, i think it's good that he has a good sense of humor about it, too. ;)

if he didn't, he'd be in for a rough four years.

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by kirkit
mr paige i think your wrong. go to moby online and check his archives thing. moby is a smart guy and he wouldnt lie.

There's a difference between being smart and being mistaken. The smartest people in the world are sometimes wrong. And it isn't lying necessarily anyway.

Snopes.com has had these quotes on their website attributed to Quayle when GWB wasn't on anyone's radar screen. And I'm willing to take snopes word for it since they actually research these things rather than just believing whatever email comes to their in-box.

It comes down to whether you want to believe the truth or just take the word of someone who is mistaken and quite obviously didn't research his postings. You can think I'm wrong all you like, but that won't change the fact that I am actually right.

But hey, it's no skin off my nose. If you want to look like a partisan idiot by attributing things to GWB that Dan Quayle said, then that's your business. The world needs gullible people, too. But you've forfeited any right to complain about what people may make-up about some Democrat that you may like in the future (or you).

Come to think of it, check out these kirkit quotes. Aren't they hilarious:

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any poster on the Clutch BBS, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."

"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

"I think we can agree. The past is over"

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

I'm a smart guy. I certainly wouldn't lie. Therefore, kirkit must've said all these stupid things.

[mrpaige]

By the way, looking around that Moby site, I see that he was taken in by the hoax email about the Lovenstein Institute and Presidential IQs.

Apparently, one only need forward an email that somehow confirms Moby's worldview and he'll make a point of pimping it as fact without regard as to whether the email is fact or not.

He may be a smart man, but he's also quite gullible, as well (assuming he doesn't know he's posting false information. I realize that may not be the case).

[kirkit]

i dont see what mrpaige is trying to do. is he trying to tell that he knows a lot about politics? i dont. i dont care either. i just went on some websites and read this stuff that were said by GWB. according to these websites, the quotes were 100% authentic. i did not go to any website that said dan quayle said it. if everyone says GWB said it, i think they are right. mrpaige, you have not proved to me that snopes.com has been "researching" quotes of GWB. all i saw was 1 quote of dan quayle on his website. you have to back up these wild claims with more facts my friend. who said i ever got this in my email with GWB quotes? these quotes are very believeable because GWB is a stupid man. i did not think that hey, this is not from GWB, it can only be by mr quayle guy. i dont research this stuff, i just read it and laugh cuz its DUMb. i read your post and you seem very arrogant. im not going into politics and im 100% sure i didnt say those quotes. im not very familiar with sarcasm so i think you said the quotes i mentioned were said by dan quayle, but you said it was by me.
dont get mad at me, i accepted these quotes to be true because i read them everywhere. sorta like when your born and you accept a religion because its all around you, nobody tells you its wrong. but after a while some guy comes up to you and says your wrong in a mean way, so you just ignore them.

[mrpaige]

It's easy to be arrogant when one is 100% right as I am in this case.

I am not trying to point out that I know anything particularly much about politics. I'm just trying to point out that you are mistakenly attributing Quayle quotes to GWB and you look like an idiot by doing so.

But that's your business. You want to look like an idiot, you're more than welcome to.

The point of my post attributing Quayle's quotes to you was to show that just because someone puts a name by some quotes on the Internet doesn't make them accurate quotes. You didn't say those things that I attributed to you, and GWB didn't say the things you attributed to him.

And the bigger point is: Doesn't GWB say enough stupid things on his own? Why do you have to make stuff up to attribute to him? Do you dislike him so much that you have to go above and beyond the truth to slam him? As another thread asked, why lie?

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know that you were mistaken, but you've chosen to ignore the truth. Now you've been made aware of your mistake and you still continue to misattribute those quotes. How do you expect anyone to believe any post you make when all your posts are followed by the lies in your signature?

[Achebe]

It's easy to be arrogant when one is 100% right as I am in this case.

I am not trying to point out that I know anything particularly much about politics. I'm just trying to point out that you are mistakenly attributing Quayle quotes to GWB and you look like an idiot by doing so.

But that's your business. You want to look like an idiot, you're more than welcome to.

The point of my post attributing Quayle's quotes to you was to show that just because someone puts a name by some quotes on the Internet doesn't make them accurate quotes. You didn't say those things that I attributed to you, and GWB didn't say the things you attributed to him.

And the bigger point is: Doesn't GWB say enough stupid things on his own? Why do you have to make stuff up to attribute to him? Do you dislike him so much that you have to go above and beyond the truth to slam him? As another thread asked, why lie?

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know that you were mistaken, but you've chosen to ignore the truth. Now you've been made aware of your mistake and you still continue to misattribute those quotes. How do you expect anyone to believe any post you make when all your posts are followed by the lies in your signature?

When I'm accused of being an arrogant ass, I wonder if my posts read this way?? I hope not. :)

mrpaige, do you think that you may be slightly overreacting? Young people may or may not recognize random Quayle quotes (I certainly don't care to remember them). If this is relevant, can you provide the list of quotes by Quayle to which these quotes unequivocally correspond? Not that it is relevant, I just thought that perhaps you and kirkit could foster this loving friendship.

getting to know you...

[kirkit]

im not the one being aggressive here. mr paige cannot prove that these quotes are by quayle. he could be lying for all i know. secondly, he says that most stuff on the internet are lies, but he gets his facts from snopes.

[bobrek]

Here are a whole flock of Quayle quotes (some of which show up in your sig file)

http://livelifebetter.com/quayle.htm

Obviously, this link could be as false as any others, but I do remember the NASA quote long before Bush started any campaign for president.

[haven]

I also remember the NASA quote as well as the one about history... but W. does have a remarkable propensity for jumbling his words together..

Whether you think it's because he's a little slow, or simply not a good public speaker is your business. :p

[Rokkit]

So basically, when you run across a stupid quote, it's either Bush or Quayle. Not much difference.

Don't see how that makes things better for either supporter. :p

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by kirkit
im not the one being aggressive here. mr paige cannot prove that these quotes are by quayle. he could be lying for all i know. secondly, he says that most stuff on the internet are lies, but he gets his facts from snopes.

It's all about sources. Sources that are trustworthy are trustworthy. Sources whose whole job is to root out the false stuff on the internet and who actually research things are solid sources. Some email that Moby got from who knows where and that has been discredited is not a good source.

Learn to tell the difference.

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Achebe


When I'm accused of being an arrogant ass, I wonder if my posts read this way?? I hope not. :)

mrpaige, do you think that you may be slightly overreacting? Young people may or may not recognize random Quayle quotes (I certainly don't care to remember them). If this is relevant, can you provide the list of quotes by Quayle to which these quotes unequivocally correspond? Not that it is relevant, I just thought that perhaps you and kirkit could foster this loving friendship.

getting to know you...

I offered snopes.com, but he chooses not to believe snopes.com. So he choose not to believe the truth. It's only a matter of time before he's telling us some story about how his kidneys were stolen in New Orleans and getting all indignant when someone has the gall to question him. And if you offer any proof that it's a UL, he'll say "Who says snopes.com is right?"

kirkit is a liar. He lies in every single one of his posts and he doesn't even care. That offends me. When I assume he made an honest mistake by trusting the wrong source, he gets on my case and chooses to continue to lie. Why shouldn't that offend me. Why shouldn't I react to that?

He lies. He hates us so much that he cannot be bothered to tell us the truth. That's offensive and it casts a pall over every single thing he says. Since he has so little respect for me (and you) and hates us so much, why should I not be offended by that?

God forbid someone try to tell this guy the truth. He'll shoot the messenger and then continue to lie without remorse.

Why you would want to defend someone with so little respect for you that he insists on continuing to lie to you in every single post is beyond my ability to understand.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/quayle.htm

[HOOP-T]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Achebe]

whoa! there's no longer a history of signatures! :eek:

[oeilpere]

Dubya has his days, but mostly he is refreshing. On most occasions he says what he wants, they way he wants .... oh sure he has speech writers ... but well .. he just doesn't listen to them ....

.... I have become so tired of listening my entire life to glib, double-tongued, two-faced politicians who can't ask for table salt without having a speech writer put some spin on it ......

" ...... As president/senator/congressman/blah,blah,blah INSERT ANY POLITICIAN'S NAME HERE ... I would like to take this opportunity to thank the hard-working american laborer who not only mined this salt or as my science advisor likes to point out ... Sodium Chloride Crystals, hehe, heh ....... from mother earth .... with not only environmentally safe processes, but with all the ingenuity this INSERT RACE/ANCESTRY HERE ethnic diversity represents in it's belief in the American Way ..... and I would like to thank the manufacturing industry ..... the very backbone of the greatest economy since post World War Two .... for packaging this salt in one of the finest and most artistic expressions of freedom ... a simple cardboard carton .... the old way ... the proven way ... the American people's way ..... Now without further adieu, or delay .... please pass it to your leader, your representitive, the figurhead of democracy, your only defense between the hordes of other masses and the free world ..... ah, thank you .... the entire governement body thanks you .... the american people thank you .... my dog shep thanks you ... "


Dubya would just say pass the salt there willya?

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by Achebe
whoa! there's no longer a history of signatures! :eek:

You mean that when a signature is updated, it is updated even in the old threads? I noticed that, too. It's one of the features of the vBulletin over the old UBB software.

[DAROckets]

Originally posted by kirkit
i dont see what mrpaige is trying to do. is he trying to tell that he knows a lot about politics? i dont. i dont care either. i just went on some websites and read this stuff that were said by GWB. according to these websites, the quotes were 100% authentic. i did not go to any website that said dan quayle said it. if everyone says GWB said it, i think they are right. mrpaige, you have not proved to me that snopes.com has been "researching" quotes of GWB. all i saw was 1 quote of dan quayle on his website. you have to back up these wild claims with more facts my friend. who said i ever got this in my email with GWB quotes? these quotes are very believeable because GWB is a stupid man. i did not think that hey, this is not from GWB, it can only be by mr quayle guy. i dont research this stuff, i just read it and laugh cuz its DUMb. i read your post and you seem very arrogant. im not going into politics and im 100% sure i didnt say those quotes. im not very familiar with sarcasm so i think you said the quotes i mentioned were said by dan quayle, but you said it was by me.
dont get mad at me, i accepted these quotes to be true because i read them everywhere. sorta like when your born and you accept a religion because its all around you, nobody tells you its wrong. but after a while some guy comes up to you and says your wrong in a mean way, so you just ignore them.


That was the DUMbEST drivel I've read today :rolleyes:

[RichRocket]

To all of you who are so obsessed about the "Bushisms," are you so superficial about everything?

[mrpaige]

Originally posted by RichRocket
To all of you who are so obsessed about the "Bushisms," are you so superficial about everything?

Well, I am that superficial about almost everything.

But at least I like to be accurate in my superficiality.

[RichRocket]

mrpaige: I'm all for accuracy; I just don't see this as the time in our country's--- make that the world's--- history to be ridiculing our President over such trivialities.

You all know that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with President Bush being able to do his job.

[mrpaige]

Well, in fairness. This thread was started before the recent troubles. It's only been kirkit who has insisted on keeping the "Bush" quotes in his signature despite being shown repeatedly that the quotes aren't even accurate.

But we've noted on many threads that kirkit is simply blinded by hatred and completely biased with no respect for the truth.